Does Final Fantasy VII connect to Final Fantasy X?

[@shintenkai1648]

"Various vague things to explain it" Rebirth has mini-sins, a dressphere change scene with yuffie which leads to uncontrollable dancing, Yuffie also makes "Y R P" joke reference albeit the words being different. Aerith dances exactly like yuna. When aerith sings she effects the lifestream around her, like yuna. I'm convinced before even coming on the internet 😂

[@TheArchKnight]

Oh, fuck. I can't wait for Rebirth to come out on PC.

[@nottomboyd]

I have believed this since like 2006 and I’m so happy to see other people talking about it now

[@Voidmoney]

Yeah, I distinctly remember hearing about it just before FFX-2 International came out, and always thought it was a fun theory.

[@alldayanime8174]

There actually connected bro

[@urbs1177]

​​@@alldayanime8174shinra should be the giveaway

[@ontos8914]

In my mind they are the same world thousands of years apart. It seems that Squares stance is “they can be if you want them to be” and I think that’s the best choice

[@Voidmoney]

That's what I would prefer - allow people to experience it the way they want to.

[@Omnicloudx13]

The farplane and pyreflies and the lifestream are extremely similar with how they work and they both are capable of spawning fiends as well as being an energy source. The Cetra are also very similar to the Summoners as well given how they interact with magic and sending the dead to the farplane, manipulating the pyreflies, communing with the planet and manipulating the lifestream. Also it's explained in the compilation of FF7 games, specifically dirge of cerberus, that when a planet dies it sends the remnants of it's lifestream to space to find another planet to live on. So it could be that either the planet of Spira or Gaia has died and found the other over time and that's why they're so similar.

[@Voidmoney]

Great reply! Regarding what you mentioned with Dirge of Cerberus, I also kind of imagined that something like that is an explanation for Jenova - except perhaps Jenova's planet was tainted somehow. This is complete theory crafting, but I wondered if Sin might have returned to Spira, causing people to flee go Gaia, as well as inevitably tainting the Farplane to the point that Spira's Farplane left in the form of Jenova.

[@shanerambaran9122]

So just beat the new FF7 rebirth and in that game alone there are some pretty solid connections thrown in your face that’s obvious to even myself who hasn’t played ff10 in a while. FF7 Rebirth SPOILERS BELOW: When they show the weapons “described as the planets way of fighting back” in the destroyed mako reactor, both of them looked very similar to Sin from FFX. They seemed to be much smaller than Sin in scale but they were still pretty massive. Also in the temple of the ancients as aerith learns to use her powers to control the temple by using the lifestream, the dance she learns is very similar to what Yuna uses when she performs a sending in FFX. There’s also little lifestream/farplane bubbles that start to swirl around aerith like it did with Yuna. There were a couple other moments that definitely gave me some FFX vibes that I wish I kept track of but don’t quite remember the same as it did with the first two points above. It definitely seems like FFX was way in the past of the FF7. Though there are still some questions of where the Cetra and Jenova fit in the overall timeline. I think to make it work the Cetra/Jenova incident had to predate even the FFX original story by quite some time. Shinra company wasn’t around when the Cetra went to near extinction. They seemed to form a little bit after X-2. Since the Cetra were never alluded to there direct history must have been lost to time even in the age of FFX. Though perhaps the summoners themselves of the FFX universe may have had Cetra blood in them as they were able to tap into the farplane/lifestream like Aerith did. 🧐

[@Voidmoney]

Very cool, thanks for the response -- I haven't gotten to play Rebirth yet (no PS5) so I appreciate it. This is purely speculation, but I considered maybe the Cetra were the original humans from Gaia, while humans from Spira were a different race of humans. It's suggested that Final Fantasy games are in a common universe, or multiverse and take place on different worlds. If that's the case, then it's possible humans come to be on more than one different planet. The genomes of FFIX's Terra are pretty similar to humans as well; Garland didn't even have a tail, so that suggests that at least in FFIX that creatures similar to humans evolved on two different worlds within the same universe.

[@Elkabron91]

Ive replayed ffx just recently, and continue plauing ff7 rebirth.. i started to think maybe there are connection between ffx and ff7.. thinking of the concept of materia somehow has resemblance to sphere.. or farplane to lifestream.. also that shinra npc from x2 to shinra org from ff7.. those thinking bring me to your vid.. now i can sleep at ease. Thanks dude for your video

[@sethfulton7011]

i cant wait to brag about being one of the first 1,500 subscribers to this channel once you have a couple milli. this is amazing content for how new you are to the game commentary genre, considering you’ve only done lets plays, trailers, and soundtrack remixes up until not too long ago. keep up the grind & i promise ppl will come. this video was actually video number 3 on my home page of recommended videos

[@Voidmoney]

Awesome. Thanks for the kind words my friend!

[@baitposter]

_"Well no, but actually yes"_

[@rafael82x]

🤔 I always thought 7 ,8 and 10 and 15 would be fun if they connected in some way lot of fun Easter eggs or just fun fan service

[@Voidmoney]

Yeah, would be cool if a lot of these games had more crossovers. Imagine getting new content for a classic FF game (which is totally manageable if they released small DLC patches of older games.)

[@172louis]

There might a be interesting FF8 connection somewhere in the FF7 remake scene. Watch the Neo Midgar scene about the ancients. And you can notice some similar building architecture to the FF8 Gardens for a brief moment there.

[@thelastwitcher8773]

They’re apparently on the same planet just in different countries. Spira and Gaia.

[@diegoevil3000]

In that way, The Spirits Within maybe is connected?

[@Voidmoney]

I think Jenova is similar to the Alien Gaia.

[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

So FF Vll happened during the machina war between Zanarkand and Bevelle 1000 years before FF X?

[@Voidmoney]

Nah -- FFVII comes after. Humans left Spira once they ran out of natural resources and went to Gaia. It's a pretty wacky theory, but the gist of it is that the character Shinra copied the technology of Vegnagun to develop mako reactors, as Vegnagun runs off of the planet's energy.

[@leonorakristinerozalinamll9473]

@@Voidmoney Oh okay lol wrong order of the games then😅😂. I've never played nor watched the FF Vll. Many years ago I watched the FF Vll the movie but remember tiny bit of it. I do only know veeeeery little about the four main characters Cloud, Tifa, Zack and Aerith. But I don't know the main plot of the story.

[@Voidmoney]

Yeah, it's a pretty wacky theory to be fair, and not easy to follow. A lot of fans dismiss it, but the developers say it's true, so I prefer to go by what they say.

[@shizbang]

Didnt watch yet but answer is yes confirmed by developers

[@Voidmoney]

^ I gathered a bunch of interviews as well as evidence in this video... basically the idea is people can see the argument, form the opinion for themselves. A one stop shop of sorts for the argument.

[@shizbang]

@@Voidmoney Sorry that I haven't had time to actually watch the video. I can respond to your rebuttal to my comment though. Here's a direct quote from the developers: Nojima: “As a matter of fact, yes. Shinra quits the Gullwings, receives enormous financial assistance from Rin and uses Vegnagun to extract mako energy from the Farplane. However, he can’t complete the system to utilize the energy in a single generation, and the Shin-Ra Company is built on another planet in the future once travel to distant planets is possible, and stuff like that … Those things happen about 1000 years after this story, though.” So it is not up for debate whether than is canon, because it is. I appreciate your time and effort at making the video and your dedication to the discussion of the topic. Please let me watch the video now haha

[@Voidmoney]

Thanks for taking the time to post and watch the video 😊 I did post a previous version of this video which I unlisted (volume levels were wacky for some people), and even despite admissions from the developers, and my own concessions to the theory even in spite of the developers own words, many of the comments were from people who not only wanted to argue the point, but also resort to ad hominem, non-sequetors, or just generally responding with points that I already covered in the video. Ultimately my stance is, people can believe what they want - we're talking about fictional works, not something like WWII conspiracy theories. Analyzing fictional works for meaning is an important part of experiencing fiction as art. But this is the intention of the creators, and that intention is plain and clear.

[@davidnguyen2476]

ff 10 remake confirmed !!

[@Voidmoney]

Sweet dreams are made of this.

[@SiRcErOn_YuLmEr]

So Jenova might be from Spira too ? Is she Yunalesca ? And what about the Gis, where are they from ?

[@Voidmoney]

It's been speculated that Jenova is from Spira, and possibly Yunalesca, but I would say it's a stretch at this point (not totally baseless though). There's some speculation that the Gi are the Ronso. I'd have to look more into any of these things individually to have a stronger stance.

[@SiRcErOn_YuLmEr]

@@Voidmoney The gi have no horn on their forehead.

[@Voidmoney]

It's just speculation.

[@SiRcErOn_YuLmEr]

@@Voidmoney There is another mystery regarding Jenova : is she the only member of her species ? Are there other things like her in the universe ? When you take the lore of FF15, the way evil operates looks like Jenova 's too. The Lavos thing in Chrono Cross looks like Jenova's too...

[@helderalmeida3417]

So 7 happen, than 500 years we see red 13 running towards midgard, all destroyed and taken over by nature. Many hundreds years later or thousands we see city's all over Gaia or Spira, all light up and very technological advanced. We see a war between zanarkand and bevelled nearly destroyed Spira or Gaia, and in that war we see a summoner summoning a evil creature call Sid, destroying nearly everything again like thousands of years early. One thousand years later we are introduce to the world of spira and final fantasy x storyline

[@Voidmoney]

Good stuff but a bit backwards - Nojima has said that people built technology to travel between planets, so they travel from Spira to Gaia, they're two separate planets. You can suppose that the Spirans came to Gaia before the cataclysm (Jenova meteor) which caused society to degress in technology - dirge of cerberus kind of verifies this as Cid has lines regarding the Shera saying that it uses a technology from a lost civilization that he doesn't understand. You can suppose that the lost civilization are not the ancients, as their thing was unity with the planet, rather than technological superiority.

[@bob_the_plumber]

Omina opera got eliminated and I was pissed it was a great game

[@TheMeanJoeGreen]

you should probably just take down the first one. KZbin can flag you for re-using content friend.

[@Sir_Winalot03]

Nope. It will just not be able to be monetized. Im youtube partner. Trust. It just cant be monetized

[@TheMeanJoeGreen]

@@Sir_Winalot03 Im a partner as well, and maybe in the circumstance of not being monetized might help, but the TOS clearly says NOT to do this. As in having 2 of the same video on your channel.

[@Voidmoney]

I don't think it counts as the same video if there are significant edits. I did unlist it in any case, I just had to sleep while the new upload was premiering, so didn't get around to it till now.

[@Sir_Winalot03]

@TheMeanJoeGreen if its not the exact same. It doesnt matter.

[@Sir_Winalot03]

@Voidmoney you get 3 strikes anyways. Also. This would be fine. Trust me.

[@sillylilguy00]

dude you lowkey sound like tidus

[@youtubeperson199]

played ff7 rebirth and there is not 1 single god dam Easter egg to any other ff game other than stupid gilgamesh which tells me they rush the life out of this game and then we had the botched up ending where you go north to the temple of ancients when in OG it is in the southern part of the map then we didn't even get a decent history lesson it was rushed could even explore the forgotten capital it was all linear. what a joke of a game then we have to deal with the BS timeline crap

[@Voidmoney]

I haven't played it yet, but I heard Aerith's death was obfuscated to the point of losing all emotional rigor. Too bad, I had high hopes for the developers.

[@Pope-of-Comics]

and the Gilgamesh is a bad hype, been in many FF's. Fans will see and connect ANYTHING.

[@Voidmoney]

Whatever brings people joy and fun. It's all fictional so it's not like it's revisionist history or anything.

[@Archangel-1104]

@@Voidmoneypeople complain abt anything. It made me cry a second time. They just wanted something that they’ve already gone through since they’re mega fans😭

[@lokzillah]

The ending of rebirth was just as impactful trust me you just needa play it, the way they show how broken cloud actually is