Does Hornby Make the Best Model Railway Wagons?

[@wakefieldtrainlad340]

I’ve only had Hornby and a few Bachman wagons. My latest purchase was the Hornby Crigglestone Coliery wagon which is personal to me since I lived at Crigglestone (Wakefield, West Yorkshire). Keep up the good work Sam

[@johnd8892]

Sam. Good choice of Hornby wagons. These are some of the highest quality best value wagons from Hornby. A problem with Hornby is that they also sell some much less accurate old tooling examples at much the same price. This variation has caught out a very experienced modeller I know who started to build up some British outline trains, but chose some of the older tooling items giving less value. A quick indicator is look for NEM coupler pockets as a usual indicator of new tooling.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot John - yes I was pretty happy with these! I noticed when shopping that some of them looked pretty dated, but were still pricey! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@roguerailroader4132]

I'm not sure and it just might be with this one and the one after it. 10:39 If you look towards the corners (left and right) there is a couple circular indents. I done think that’s pretty prototypical and looks more like where the molding pins eject the wagon out of the mold. Obviously can cover up with a load but just something I noticed.

[@jacobwilson5468]

I have about 11 or 12 of those Hornby fuel tankers and all have different running numbers on them, but five of them are Shell tankers. Most of them are from the Hornby RailRoad range. I like them. All of those with a locomotive and brake van fulfils and full straight and part of a curve on my layout, so I will probably don't need anymore!

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh fantastic - they're quite nice aren't they?? :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lewiscarty5517]

I did have a 7UP wagon when I had a train set with an LMS Jinty I think, with a Tango Van, and a Pepsi Tanker and something else, I think it was a Pop Freight Train or something, not too sure, it was a Hornby set from 2000-01 or something, I wished I still had it, but I flogged the set, because I had no room for it, but seeing those 7UP wagons have brought back memories of playing with that set, along with one Thomas And Percy Passenger and Goods Set, with Thomas, Percy, Annie, Clarabel, two Troublesome Trucks and a milk van, which were so many good times.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh nice Lewis - I love those 7up wagons too, they look great don't they?! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@theretrocrowe]

I managed to get a Hornby visitor centre wagon brand new for just 4 quid recently. One of the best value pieces of rolling stock I have ever owned

[@SamsTrains]

That's actually awesome - glad you got one!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bambostarla6259]

I am so glad you are upgrading your rolling stock collection. Small details make such a difference to the eye!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate - I'm really glad bout it too, I agree! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Steves00gauge]

Starting my railway in late 2018 I was amazed at how many and I don’t use the term lightly “crap” products are out there. Hornby so far for me has been very good in all aspects of their products I’ve bought however my god Dapol stung me a few years back when I bought some of their wagons and disappointed was an understatement. I have given them a second chance more so because I wanted Lms branded items and only they had a tidy range. Not tried oxford yet but may consider it. Golden valley hobbies wagons popped up in my searches but god knows how that would go.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Steve - yes you're right - I've had several stings from Dapol before (and a few from Hornby, but much much less frequently) - I can highly recommend Oxford for sure! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@OlivierGabin]

Good evening Sam. I agree with you on the overall aspect of the wagons. Yes, Hornby wagons are good, there is a great variety of liveries and types in their range, the ones I have does not stand like a sore thumb besides the Oxford Rail ones. But as you said, Hornby wagons are overpriced. In my opinion, they ought to be sold no more than GBP 10, any of them. See a 5 to 7 plank wagons cost up to GBP 15 in their range, it is a nonsense, especially when you make the comparison with what Oxford Rail manufactures. Three stars for the overall value, you are spot on with this point. Anyway, coming from Station Road Model Railway KZbin channel, I have found a solution to Dapol's drooping couplers problem : unscrew the coupler bar after having popped out the axles, trim a little the plastic hump that supports him with a file until you have the coupler support stand perfectly horizontal with the hump trimmed at the right size, screw back the coupler support and the drooping coupler problem is solved. I have some Dapol couplers to fix this way on my own fleet, and buy some car wheels weights for another Dapol wagon that is too light, and derails all the time, based on one of your video for the solution. Thanks for this video, I'm waiting for the one on Bachmann. Just one last idea : why not try a "worst of" video, with the Dapol egg vans (unmodified, of course) coupled to your Heljan GWR 0-6-0 T ? That would be fun, especially if you includes one of your interesting experiment...

[@SamsTrains]

Hey Oliver, thanks a lot for this mate - agreed, they are a tad overpriced compared with Oxford! Thanks very much for the tips on the Dapol couplings - I'll experiment with that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@lukehughes6094]

Great video. Amazing variety of rolling stock. Great variety of different hornby locomotive used.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Luke, really glad you liked those! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@alancarpenter2070]

Hi Sam, another good video in this time of self quarantine. One other thing I did notice was the recessed circles in the wagon floors. I think they come from the mould ejector pins, even if they were visible on the "Oxford" wagons, not very realistic. If "Hornby" had removed them (filled them in) it would have been a plus for them. As far as price is concerned, all 4 wheeled open wagons in any company's range tend to be the same price, be they a 1 plank or an 8 plank. Just an observation. Regards, Alan.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Alan - yes you're right about that - I don't know why I didn't discuss that - it's very noticeable isn't it?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@markdunwell3288]

For me Sam Hornby are the best out of the three. Just edging past Oxford. Brilliant trilogy enjoyed them immensely. Happy Christmas Sam. 👌👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🚅

[@SamsTrains]

Good choice Mark, thanks a lot for sharing! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@MoleculeMind7]

The problem I keep having with Oxford rail is the NEM pockets aren't tight enough so couplings drop out. All of mine have a blue sticky material holding them on. Won't mention the product name. Oxford couplings also appear incompatible with both hornby and Pecos tension lock uncoupling ramp system.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I've had that before actually - but none of the recent Oxford wagons I've bought have had that issue! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@NZREngine]

Here in New Zealand I've noticed even the most basic wagons sell in our model shops for $35 Which is about 18 pounds. I definitely wish wagons were cheaper as they shouldn't really be more than $20

[@greenerell484]

same

[@davidstrains4910]

What a question I think they make some good wagons but they are quite expensive for something that is quite small in my opinion

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I agree - I think Oxford wins on value so far! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@StaxRail]

Hi Sam, brilliant video as always! By the way, I would recommend going to the Caledonia Works Facebook page, they have a code to get some of their Train Simulator engines for free- could be good for a video?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot for this - I've been getting a few today! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@trr94001]

I recently bought Hornby's Private Wagon 3-pack, my first British prototype rolling stock. My only complaint is the visible circular injection marks on the floor of the cargo bed. Still, those would be covered up if you added loads.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're absolutely right - I noticed those too - they all seem to have them! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ausfoodgarden]

The Hornby wagons can be a bit of a mixed bag. Some are quite old tooling, but a few are fairly new, as in I think the Scholes wagon that you showed may be. I'm happy with some Hornby wagons and some Oxford. Bachmann, I'd only buy used at a decent price. Nice video mate, keep 'em coming as KZbin is my major source of entertainment during these times of "The Illness"

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that does seem to be true - I tried to pick modern ones, but wasn't willing to pay £16+ for any! That's lovely to hear mate, you stay safe now!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jinkwon8410]

It's always a nice change of pace when you review rolling stock instead of a locomotive. Always preferred the rolling stock over the locomotives sometimes. On a related note, were you able to have a gander at those Bachmann Thomas and Friends Red Branchline Coaches I mentioned a while back?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Jin, really glad you think so too! I did have a look - but I haven't taken the plunge as of yet! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@atent5124]

Great video, I watched all three (Oxford, Bachmann and Hornby) And I'm gonna stick with Hornby as I would like a few wagons to go along with the Hornby 08.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot for sharing - yes Hornby's were very good actually! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@robertlucido3686]

You should do a review video on who makes the best coaches next

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that is a good idea Robert!! :D

[@bjoe385]

I’ve never gone wrong with hornby wagons, but I go off the price at the time. But I do valve strength, Despite my best efforts I’m extremely clumsy and tend to break things easily. So I like models that are both strong and easily repairable.

[@SamsTrains]

Me neither Ben - they're great aren't they? Sorry to hear about tat mate - I'm certainly pretty clumsy too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@farric1]

Well, I buy my RTR wagons from all of the big makers and always will. Oxford rail seem to excel, but there are so many fantastic wagons from the likes of Bachmann, etc. too. We are very spoilt by choice nowadays! The hornby wagons look good and have the hornby name on the box.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Craig - yes you're right - they all seem to have their pros for sure! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@eddyweller4503]

I managed to pick up a second hand Arnold sands wagon in great condition the person before had put a load in which is a shame, as I make my loads removable but never the less I paid £4 for it so pleased keep up the good work Sam xxx

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that sounds awesome Eddy - they're lovely aren't they?! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@WestRail642fan]

i like bachman's old stock with the chunky coupler their US Thomas range use

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah me too - they're quite good couplers! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@WestRail642fan]

@@SamsTrains i hear Dapol makes them with that weird clip that some hornby wagons use

[@roverman1963]

HI Sam, Yes Arnold's Sand was a big thing in Leighton Buzzard, But I don't think they run on main lines, Thay had a narrow gauge line here in lB... If you have not looked at buzz rail have a look,,

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh cool, thanks very much for the info on these! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@pigeonliveryworks]

5:34 its longer than your ruston 48ds!! Good video I bet u can fit it in aswell

[@SamsTrains]

haha it certainly is!! ;D

[@joshrussell4081]

Another great vid Sam just what is needed to keep us sane in these mad times keep at it mate

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Josh - that's lovely to hear mate - stay safe!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Awesome review as always. Some interesting news from Warley! Hornbgy have been false advertising again, their christmas tree carrier doesn't have metal wheels nor do their lowmacs!

[@pressstart1490]

Sam, i new in model railway, and i have a question. Is it possible to connect wagons of different brands? Like a Hornby Locomotive with Marklin wagons, or something like that.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes it certainly is! Provided they have NEM pockets, you can interchange couplings easily! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@RobA500]

I have that version of the Arnolds’ Sands wagon made by Dapol, it’s even got a sand load fitted though obviously the under frame is a bit different.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh nice! What's the Dapol one like?? :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@RobA500]

@@SamsTrains The body is just like the Hornby one you showed here only it has an older chassis. It's still a nice looking wagon though.

[@PaulSmith-pl7fo]

Hi Sam. Would have been nice to have put in an insert of the Oxford Rail wagon(s) to compare the detail - perhaps you might incorporate this into your Bachmann review. How are you coping with self-isolation?

[@SamsTrains]

Yes maybe I could do Paul - good idea!

[@User-3O3]

Samuel, my friend - please include Dapol in these comparisons. :) Just omit the Egg Vans, of course.

[@SamsTrains]

haha I might do - we'll see how well the series goes! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@SuperDvsmith]

Ive got hornby Oxford Bachmann, dapol and scratch built wagons using matchsticks and cardboard all run great

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh great to hear that - I'll look those up! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peteryoung4957]

Another great video Sam . Keep them coming. I've not much else to do at the moment.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Peter, really glad you're enjoying them! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@nigelcarter9503]

I like Hornby but Oxford and Hornby are connected? Sprung buffers are not important. Good review but, again price.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Nigel - yes they're connected, but they don't share any wagons as of yet! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@joeeason6538]

Really enjoyed the wagon comparisons so far, not a lot of people reviewrolling stock unless it's in a train pack... are you going to follow up with a coach comparison trio?

[@SamsTrains]

Glad you're liking them Joe - yes I could well try coaches one day too!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@budgiedeluxe]

I never put much more thought into British wagons. But all of Australian (VR) open wagon where metal and had air breaks way before the British did.

[@SamsTrains]

Cool! Thanks for the fun fact! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@andymuzzo8568]

Yep. Yellow Shell Tanker was in my first set

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh fantastic - very fond memories of those!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@martinpattison4018]

Sam, please take another look at the video and I am sure you will see what I did. The couplings on the new wagons were bouncing as the engine was pulling them. I think the drop bar part of the coupling is too long and maybe catching on the sleepers. Nice Wagons, but too expensive. Martin. (Thailand)

[@SamsTrains]

Yes the couplings were bouncing, but I think they're supposed to do that - they functioned as they should! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bambostarla6259]

I'm so sad that I am in another country right now because I have to quarantine and all my trains are back home. Would have been the perfect time to get a layout done

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh so sorry to hear that mate - hope you can come home soon :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Aaron.56_]

Hi Sam! Love the range of rolling stock in this video

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate!! :D

[@onesteamyboi178]

for the next wagon test/review could you a small tank engine of the same brand of the wagons say you do a Bachmann wagon test could you use the j72 in the running session with just the three wagons and a break can as like a private train, just a suggestion, thanks for reading, Kai👍

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh sounds awesome - I'll try that one day Kai! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@JohnPW22]

Another fascinating comparison Sam. One thought, keeping things scientific, if the wagon mass is higher, its momentum will be higher so in the rolling tests we should anticipate the wagon travelling further even for the same resistance. something like d = ma and a = ??? I'll leave that to you!!!

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's right John, but the masses are extremely similar for these wagons, so any major difference can be attributed mainly to the wheels! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@redversb2347]

I really like the value for money from Oxford although some of them seem a tad more fragile - however I like (sadly) to buy wagons that are from towns in my local area regardless of manufacturer.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate - so do I - you're right about that, quite fragile, but I do love them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@rossnation8092]

Hi Sam, In regards to pricing, Do you plan to include Hornby Railroad? Or do you class them as hornby? And only want to shoot out the premium items? As they are reasonably presentable wagon at a lower price. Plus for many modellers railroad is a great test bed before getting into modifying or weathering our more expensive models. Anyways great video, can’t wait for the bachmann issue, as although a bit over priced I like the bachmann wagons. Cheers Ross.

[@SamsTrains]

I don't expect so - it's probably not a fair comparison, since most of the Railroad wagons date back many years! As a standalone video though, it'd be great! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@cameronmcilroy8261]

Hey Sam, good video there. Really happy to see you're keeping your channel going while all this is happening. Looking forward to more content during it and most of all, stay safe :)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Cameron - yes videos as usual mate, glad you're liking them! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@sharkymcsharknose2979]

I wonder how Dapol's rolling stock stack up (egg vans tipsy on eggnog aside) in OO gauge. My N gauge Dapol rolling stock roll and couple just fine.

[@SamsTrains]

haha we'll see - I have high hopes after this! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@billywindsock9597]

All Hornby wagons, going back a long way, are very good to weather. They can be filthed up and wiped many times to get them to look good. The range is vast, Oxford are good and in another thirty years they may have a large range as well!

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh that's interested - I've never heard that before! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@gs425]

I've always wondered on the exact relationship between hornby and Oxford, considering hornbys top dog is also the top dog and founder of Oxford. Hornby rebrand some Oxford road vehicles. Be surprised if there isn't a link over as opposed to competition with their railway range too.

[@SamsTrains]

I'm not entirely sure - I think they're partly owned by the same entity, or something along those lines - they do have loose connections like that, you're right! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@bentullett6068]

I think you might be correct about both Hornby and Oxford rail working together as Hornby ask for Oxford diecast vehicles and recently resin buildings from Oxford rail. Plus the inner packaging is very similar on both the hornby and Oxford rail items

[@chtrailfantinslay9410]

Hi Sam, I know you were comparing plank wagons but in my experience Oxford's Warwell wagons were far too light compared to Hatton's Warwell wagons maybe you should add Hatton's to your list after all a "wagon a wagon" keep up to very good work you are doing.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes you're right - I've had some fairly light Oxford wagons too - I will cover their warwell at some point! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@hexthetankengine18]

Excuse me, I have a question. I know it's not really related to the video but... Do you fix wires on Hornby/Bachmann Engines? I have a Bachmann Thomas that's had his red wire disconnected from its motor, and he isn't moving. Maybe take apart your Bachmann Thomas and you will see that the red wire on yours is connected to a metal bit on the motor and its soldered on. I'm asking this question because I was wondering if I might send my Thomas to you to fix this problem (Or maybe my mum will fix it because she bought a soldering kit). :)

[@SamsTrains]

Unfortunately I can't offer servicing or repairs any more, but I can give you some tips - do you know how to take the body off to check the wiring?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@hexthetankengine18]

It's alright, I just recently repaired my Thomas, and now he's a really useful engine again. :)

[@NorbertRoll]

Yes Sam, Hornby is producing many beautiful wagons in good quality but not always the best. You should do a similar presentation with passenger coaches. Cheers Norbert

[@SamsTrains]

I agree Norbert - and great idea, I'll do some coaches soon! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Bahamas-rd8le]

Hi Sam, the Arnold sands wagon in the thumbnail, I have the original model of that from the 70s or something like that

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh fantastic - yes I have quite a few of those early ones too - love them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Bahamas-rd8le]

It came with my dads starter set when he was a boy

[@p674mle2]

hi sam love the video i think hornby make the best wagons although i preffer the older hornby stuff like the 1990's and 80's hornby stuff

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - yeah I love the old wagons too - real charm to those!! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@David_Twomey]

hello sam i got Bachmann skarloey and trucks and peco n gauge starter set and I am getting into n gauge like you getting into o gauge and I didn't start with tankers like those and the only tanker I own is a Hornby Thomas milk tanker and Hornby in my opinion make the best coaches and love the video from david

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh sounds cool David - I'd love to try those too one day! Enjoy mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@tommogriff]

Hi Sam, Great video! Rolling stock videos are my favourite!

[@SamsTrains]

Hey Tom, thanks mate! :D

[@russellbenton2987]

I prefer Bachmann models and Mainline before them . Much more consistent than Hornby whose quality varies depending on the wagon . I stopped buying Bachmann when the price went through the roof a few years ago . Fortunately I have lots of wagons , occasionally topping it up by second hand buys .

[@SamsTrains]

Glad to hear that Russell - I'm looking forward to trying the Bachmann ones too - you're right about the prices though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PhilPage227]

Lovely set of wagons although a bit expensive. I love the 6 plank wagon from my home town of Bolton. I have always bought Triang or Hornby and will stick with them. Nice video as usual Sam. I once asked if you could do a service video on the Hornby old Terrier as I do not know how to take the body off mine. BTW Sam, it is pronounced Skoles.

[@erikmorrison8714]

Is great wagon got it myself being from prestolee near Kearsley I had to have a Bolton wagon for my layout

[@PhilPage227]

@@erikmorrison8714 Well I think I need to get one.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Philip, yeah these were a bit pricey! I've literally just done a stream showing how to service the old terriers - hope that helps! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PhilPage227]

@@SamsTrains Help loads, thanks.

[@E350tb]

I got tripped up by the whole ‘putting Dapol wagons in the Railways range’ thing; luckily I got mine at a discount! (Oddly, it’s probably one of my more reliable trucks XD) These look good, but I think you’re right that Oxford will take it.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah me too mate - sorry to hear that - at least they all look good though!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@joelightrailway2362]

Excellent review of these amazing wagons from Hornby Sam 👍👍 Well I have to say that Hornby wagons are amazing, but I amid that if I just had wagons from Hornby only, I will just be using the train set ones. However looking at these wagons look ok and fantastic so that is double 👍👍 up. But also I like the Oxford Rail wagons the most impressive than Hornby & Bachmann put together. So I put my money on Oxford Rail wagons for a 10/10 points

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much Joe - yeah I love Hornby's wagons too - even the train set ones are good!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@MayoHosko]

I prefer 7 plank open trucks the best because they don’t look squashed. Also they have more capacity for storing goods

[@SamsTrains]

Glad to hear that Mayo - yeah the large ones are good and hefty! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@Im_here170]

Hi Sam Love your videos congratulations and 70,000 K 🥳🤩

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate, really appreciate it! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@formidable38]

Hi Sam, isn't it true with Hornby that some are using the very old and crude tooling? Sometimes its hard to tell them apart until you get them home??

[@SamsTrains]

I did wonder whether that was true - I'm not certain though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@rydermike33]

Very nice rolling stock Sam, but, as you say, Oxford just pips it for value and detail. Many thanks.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Mike - yeah I thought Oxford just about won it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

First we got some mineral wagons from Oxford Rail, and now we’re getting some from Hornby. What’s next? Does Bachmann have their own mineral wagons?

[@SamsTrains]

They do indeed - coming soon! :D

[@jacobwilson5468]

Good video, Sam. Well done and thank you for my around 11:30PM or 23:30 entertainment.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Jaob, really appreciate it mate! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@sirmugman]

there all good, as long they A/ roll fine and don't have plastic wheels or older style cuplins, B/ DO NOT DERAIL EVERY TIME! "point to egg vans" and C/ are good rollers unlike the ttc wagon oh and must be in good colours

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed - I'd agree with that.... certainly not the egg vans ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@HammBurber]

How many Engines where pulling all those wagons in the opening? And what type where they?

[@SamsTrains]

It was the 72xx - skip ahead and you'll see it!! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@teescottageguyproductions]

Great video! I know they are bringing out Stephenson rocket but will they bring out Stephenson Locomotion? I hope so!

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that'd be awesome to see!! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@davidarnold2173]

Hi Sam! I like the low wagons myself & I know I’m mad as folks keep telling me however I really think they breakup the skyline & monotony also seeing my sir name emblazoned across their sides makes me want half a dozen or so too_ all the best Sam & stay well_Dave 🇦🇺

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot David - yeah I do love those too - agreed! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TIMMEH19991]

Surely one major factor to how good a wagon is is not how detailed and pretty it is, but how accurate to the prototype it is? I really don't know about these particular Hornby wagons, but many of their's from the past, most of which are still in production are extremely bad representations of the original.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's true - though that's not my area of expertise! I explore models from a quality/value/performance point of view - I'd love to hear from someone with more knowledge of the prototypes! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Starflight_Miniatures]

I think we need to see dapol, I do enjoy my gunpowder vans plus great price (ignore the egg vans)

[@SamsTrains]

haha I've thought about it - we'll see! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@chielvanderkolk4830]

Hello Sam, can you check out Hattons coal load? I think it will look great in some of your wagons

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that sounds awesome - I'll do that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Hooterton_Model_Railway]

Looking forward to seeing review of bachmann wagons!

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! I can't wait to do that one!! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@Hooterton_Model_Railway]

@@SamsTrains do you ever do running days on your layout with any of your followers? I'd love to bring a loco or two of mine and put them through their paces on your layout haha!

[@emilioi.valdez6680]

Think you could do a video series of the companies' foreign (American as an example) rolling stock is the best? Could be cool.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh good idea - I'd love that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@emilioi.valdez6680]

@@SamsTrains You're welcome.

[@iceeblueburst03]

Oxford Rail and Hornby are pretty much almost tied when it comes to making rolling stock. I think Oxford Rail still wins with producing rolling stock because they're really well detailed and also pretty cheap. The Hornby rolling stock is a little bit more expensive but you nearly get the same stuff as what Oxford Rail has with their rolling stock.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah they're very close - I think Oxford win it though! :D

[@welshfurrygaming69]

16:21 bullman

[@SamsTrains]

Mooo!

[@reliantrailways]

Great video! Oxford over Hornby wagons for me

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Lettuce - yeah I'm with you there! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Hehehe... '4 planker'... sounds like some rhyming slang there Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

haha oops!! xD

[@daznapoleon6799]

Hornby use the same under frames on all there open wagons, in my book the best RTR are BACHMANN.

[@SamsTrains]

I don't think they do - there was more than one different underframe on the three I bought! Can't wait to try some Bachmann ones though! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@raymondo162]

if hornby's were a similar price to oxford's which would you choose ??

[@SamsTrains]

It'd be much closer then - it depends whether you value the detail or the quality more highly! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Sideways101100]

I will say I prefer Hornby, even though Oxford Rail have more detailed stock and Hornby are a little more expensive, I really don't think an extra £2.50 is that big of a dealbreaker and Hornby is massively various with their stock, and I like variety

[@SamsTrains]

Good choice mate - yes the variety is definitely a huge pro for Hornby! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@hippsthehippo9804]

I believe so but the Price is a tad bit high

[@SamsTrains]

Yes I thought that too!

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Sam, I'm afraid I didn't start with those Wagons!! 😜😆 Of course I was in the U.S., in 1974.... Seriously, excellent Review again! 👍👍 You didn't overlook a critical factor... Couplers. The best Wagon isn't worth the box it sits in, IF you can't couple it to anything else!! 😳😖 I am serious. I've seen reviews where that was overlooked. Once to my peril. 😠 Now *I may have been able to fix it, but I'm an experienced Modeller. What about the novice or worse, the first timer.... That could end the Hobby before it even gets going! So thank you dear Sir!! 👋👋👋👋👋 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@SamsTrains]

haha sorry about that!! Yes you're right - I can't believe reviewers can miss things like that - you'd have to miss it deliberately, surely?! :O It's a pleasure mate - always come to me ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

Some people just don't care... They get free products, they say how good it is. That's about it! 😖 Thanks for your honesty!!

[@robbyxp1]

Talking about the Packaging. The amount of Plastic is disturbing for these times. They are going to have to reduce that in the future. When I looked at them I thought immediately of the plastic going directly into landfill.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's true - but the amount of plastic isn't that great, and it does do a great job of protecting - better than cardboard! I keep all the packing anyway - and most collectors do too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@robbyxp1]

@@SamsTrains I thought about that after I posted, that collectors keep the boxes. Great videos btw, I really enjoy them. Thanks

[@trmn311]

I really love British wagons and perhaps I’m looking in the wrong places. I just wish they were more readily available to purchase in the US.🇺🇸

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate - I think Hatton's should be able to ship to you - links in the description! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@questionablecoding1548]

Hi Sam those rolling stock are a beauty

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot mate - I thought so too! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PHsRailwayVideos]

Is that a seven-plank wagon or an eight plank wagon? Make up your mind Sam! 1:10, 2:33 (PS I did notice the 7 plank writing)

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah - I got that one mixed up a bit! ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@crouchingtigerhiddenadam1352]

I think that's a fair review. I do like the Hornby wagons, I think the brand name has a slight premium. How come you haven't included Dapol?

[@TATICMOOR]

Sam got fed up with getting EGG (vans) on his face with Dapol wagons. LOL.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Adam - yes that's very true! Yes I was put off from Dapol's wagons ;) Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@TheLordFinwe]

This will likely hurt Sam. I would rather get Dapol cars. as a Welshman i must honor them as they make their stuff in Wales. plus out of my roster of freight cars over half is Dapol and I have no problem with them. the egg vans are that exception their brake rigging and wheel alignments tend to cause problems but those issues did not show up in any of their other rolling stock. also forgot to mention I have Kadee couplers on all my stock as I also have American, Australian and Swiss 2 rail stock in the collection.

[@SamsTrains]

haha that's okay mate - I must say I haven't tried many of Dapol's wagons - are you sure they're made in Wales? I thought that was only the 3D printed stuff! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@BattleshipOrion]

Ehh, it depends on the manufacture, and region you live. Here in the US, the cars (wagons) are very different than the UK. It also depends on what your modeling, if your modeling a BNSF train, the motive power (locomotive), and the cars would very different from an English train of the same sorts. Also cars between the US, and UK are different. A boxcar that is 60'x9' is not going to be found on UK rail networks, same with a box wagon in the UK. Overall no-one makes the best because of regional availability. Stay safe Sam, Csx68 ~ending and posting communication uplink~

[@SamsTrains]

Very cool, thanks for the insight mate - I'd love to try some wagons from your area! :D Stay safe yourself mate, Sam :)

[@BattleshipOrion]

@@SamsTrains If its possible this year (due to COVID-19) I'll send out bachmann's Coast liner set, and a few pictures of real counter parts, as well a paper about the modern american railroads including the mergers & buyouts.

[@deel399]

Wish I had that much rolling stock! Great vid!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate, glad you liked it! :D Cheers, Sam :)

[@SteamWithaScooby]

Are the bodies on these the same as the old ex. Dapol ones? These look like they've had a new chassis and a shiny paint job, but still the same old clunky bodies. I feel like £12.50 is a bit of a Micky take! (Also, do the brake levers move on these like they do on the Oxford Rail wagons?) For me, Oxford Rail 100%!

[@SamsTrains]

I suspect some of them might be - I've compared them, and they look very close! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@duhpexilartist5935]

Hi sam can you do more american locos and what scale is that

[@SamsTrains]

Yes - more coming soon! This is OO scale, HO gauge! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@94Angelwing]

Scholes - pronounced ' Skoals' :) Great wagons

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh thanks very much for this! :D

[@corbinb5410]

Sam I’m considering ordering the Lms pug I hope it looks good on my small layout

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh sounds good mate - hope you enjoy it if you do!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@the4tierbridge]

Hornby did well, like I predicted!

[@SamsTrains]

Yes indeed - very strong wagons! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@vincebagusauskas278]

Oxford. Value for money. Means more rolling stock on your layout

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Vince - that's absolutely right!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@roryanderson7808]

I vote for hornby

[@SamsTrains]

Good choice there Rory! :d