Does Jett Lawrence Have Perfect Technique?

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[@blubug768]

I think Tomac is the last of the "just hammer through it" sort of guys and from here on out the champs are going to be the more technique focused guys.

[@dirtbikeforever98]

Possibly Anderson if he can stay out of the drama this supercross season

[@crush1221]

Tomac uses a heap of technique too, looks like he is riding a mtb to me. Not just a hammer head at all.

[@enzoandrade219]

Right now, I think he only guys that still ride like that are Tomac, Anderson and Herlings

[@xafbxmoto269]

I hope not. The new riding "style" looks boring AF

[@SKIDSnSTUFF]

Jesus. Some clueless bustard said this about Tomac once then all the parrots got on board. Tomac is not just hammering through, the dudes technique and tech track use is top notch.

[@crush1221]

There’s always been outliers tho - early career Windham, Everts, Bayle, Lechien, Bailey and Moates all rode feet up, on the toes turned in, gear high.

[@tannerlibert7024]

The only one I would add is Tortelli. All the euro guys that started in super loamy soil/sand all understand that dragging a foot or touching is increased drag...cant do that on tracks built for momentum

[@kings17court]

4:02 I like how you said "IF my kid decides to ride." That's exactly right. Sometimes you think it's a given, but not necessarily. I have one that gravitated to bikes, and another that doesn't want anything to do with them. Heck, he doesn't even want to ride bikes. I hope your kid does ride, cause it's such a great bonding experience, and he'll be getting top notch coaching from day 1. How cool is that?

[@themotoacademypodcast]

Completely up to them! I’ll introduce them to everything 😁

[@kings17court]

@@themotoacademypodcast If he comes out of the womb with his elbows up, you might have a natural. 😁

[@justjesse16]

im a firm believer in "ride to your comfort" sometimes wat the pros do just dont mesh with you. so dont abandon ur technique cus everyones changing. sometimes ur techniques just faster for you and how you flow.

[@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896]

Technique has evolved with bikes and bike geometry is allowing different techniques. Just look at bar bends and how they have changed. They used to have a lot of sweep but now bikes are conning out with much straighter bars.

[@Gatedrop]

Everts was riding like that in 1990, Prado has perfect technique, Vialle, Geerts etc it's MXGP style. US since RC has been pin it to win it before that MC, Emig, Reynard, Bailey, O'Mara had great style.

[@jsm5213]

Feel like AJ really should watch Stefan everts footage - he was riding feet on pegs stood up since early 2000’s

[@alexiosmermigas6521]

I believe Everts is the best example for anyone to watch how to ride a dirt bike. He always rode on the balls on his feet, a lot of standing up, feet on the pegs, proper upper body position, and elbows. Very calculated and precise on the bike since the 90"s. I would love to see AJ talk about his technique. Go watch MXGP '06 people, some great footage.

[@SKIDSnSTUFF]

Yep I'm always saying Everts was the first to crack this style, it's why he demolished his era. Everyone took a looong ass time to catch on.

[@kw68]

A man who knows what he’s talking about!!! And I think Stefan had some input into Jetts riding from there Suzuki days together

[@themotoacademypodcast]

Absolutely! Everts was one of first guys I remember seeing ride that way so frequently

[@bmotomo421]

@@alexiosmermigas6521 Yeah, he is a great example. Now, do you suppose he learned that from a rider from the past? Or a rider from the future, as these moto historians are proclaiming? There was an Everets that came before Stephen. Could he have learned it from him? Just a little research is all these guys need to do. But they don't. Yet they continue to claim they're revolutionary. And kids who don't know any better may believe them. But they're not. It's time for them to find a new shtick.

[@edwardclark3980]

I try to stay centered. And pivot at the hips while keeping upper centered.

[@alexdugan4467]

Stefan Everts

[@johng6586]

From the champs I know... Carmichael then Villopoto then Tomac. They are like minded. Reed, Stewart, Dungey, were their own ppl with their individual strategy.

[@jerrodriley4290]

I was a lean back on the whoops kind of guy until i started watching aj. I do have to say staying neutral/forward and letting the bike pivot under you works amazing, but you HAVE to commit, if youre going slow its not going to do you any good.

[@infidelmat]

OMG Cam calls out ET for poor riding form! Someone call PulpMX to misquote him quick!

[@user-lv3py5vm6i]

If you look at really old footage many riders rode like Jett Lawrence. It's really nothing new but I think with internet and availability of information more riders have adopted it. In the old days, you had a magazine once a month with little about riding technique.

[@MrZx357]

How do we get to the point of feet on all the time, what about thr deep moto ruts where your feet get ripped off while standing

[@tylersvensson4468]

I think aj thinks his the one invented it even though it’s been around for decades but no one really thought about it as everyone had a different technique so they followed. But before aj even blew up ryno was teaching Eli how to ride and devolving riding himself. Ryno controls the bike differently even putting contact on the swing arm to level out and control the rear bike

[@user-mm1nt1it5v]

The thing too is that even now not everybody is even teaching to ride feet on pegs, theres probably still a good 2-3 years until it becomes an absolute consensus that everybody is taught to do. So thats 2-3 years on top of the 18 years until those kids go pro. So its going to be 20+ years until its how everybody rides.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

Takes a while!

[@hoppersvagina1084]

Hmm, I wonder if the shape of the lines and ruts change as more riders are keeping feet on the pegs.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

Yes, they’re already beginning to!👍🏼

[@grimmriffer]

I think some aspects of modern teaching don't suit old two strokes, specifically going into corners a gear higher. I think they need to be turned, settled, and squirted. Moving to a 4T convinced me of this. On the other hand, I found feet up cornering *great* on either because it forced me to get drive earlier to hold the bike up, so stops me coasting and dabbing.

[@jpmorgen5726]

What about foot and ankle injuries...?

[@edwardclark3980]

I'm old and I ride with feet on unless it's a balance issue.

[@xafbxmoto269]

I get the technique stuff I really do. But. If guys are winning riding the old school way then why even change it. I think just because riding styles are different doesn't mean one is wrong. To say that tomac is wrong is just hilarious to me. Passing your star child technique masters on the outside and you still bring up how his technique is wrong 😂

[@roostfezza7563]

European riders are very much standing up technique. And thats not new. Stefan Everts for example. This is not a new technique at all, perhaps its just taken a long time for non euro places to catch on.

[@bmotomo421]

It's highly unlikely, that AJ could turn a faster lap on a 1970s bike, than Roger did. It's more likely his times would resemble the times of a mid pack racer of that time frame. Especially around one of the tracks of that era.

[@MrSuperflydude]

I'm gonna call that a dog water take bud I'm sorry

[@bmotomo421]

@@MrSuperflydude Speak English, son.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

Thatd be an interesting experiment if it were possible. I think modern day racers can do things on those old bikes that nobody did back then. I’m sure naturally older people will disagree 😬👍🏼

[@bmotomo421]

@@themotoacademypodcastAJ out rides Rodger? A multi time world champion, against a guy whose best outdoor motocross overall finish was what? 😂😂😂 Go ahead, keep telling yourself that.

[@KingFriday274]

Maybe not a faster hot lap, but would his technique make him faster for a 30 minute moto? Maybe. Make no mistake, aj can ride. Imagine what he could have done with a factory ride.

[@alfredk471]

I have an idea that I think will improve racing (road/MX/off-road) motorcycles by making them easier to control. One of the most important areas for improving motorcycles, particularly racing motorcycles, is fitting the bike to the rider, i.e. improving the rider machine interface. The rider is basically a non-variable, one cannot change the human body, so one has to fit the machine to the human. Ease of control Improving the controls makes the motorcycle easier to control which translates into more control, more control makes higher speeds possible. You improve the controls by making them physically easier to operate, requiring less effort and also less movement. Hence hydraulic disc brakes and clutches. Also by simplifying their operation or even by reducing the amount of controls. Less complicated controls or fewer controls puts less load on the rider by simplifying the task of controlling the bike. Electric bikes do this by eliminating the clutch and the gear selector. Moving the rear brake control to the handlebars (on electric and rekluse bikes) also does this because there is often a conflict between riding on the balls of your feet and the need to brake and the need to put ones foot out in right hand corners, and the need to weight the outside footpeg and need to brake in left hand corners. The gear selector also presents these problems. Here is a copy of a letter I sent to KTM R&D Department explaining my idea for improving a rider's control of their motorcycle. KTM R&D Department I have an idea that I think will improve rider control of off-road/motocross motorbikes. It could be utilized particularly on electric, but also with fuel injected, drive by wire compatible, motocross/off-road bikes. The twist grip throttle is the best practical option for controlling power and acceleration on carbureted, internal combustion engined motorcycles, but it does have a drawback, especially for motocross and offroad motorcycles because it requires a lot of movement and results in the rider lowering their elbow and/or a kinking their wrist when applying throttle. The elbows up "attack position" is pretty much established form in motocross/off-road riding. Most motocross trainers agree that a lowered elbow results in diminished control of the motorcycle because lowered elbows reduce impact absorbing ability and are awkward in a ride forward, shoulders over the handlebars, "attack" position. A kinked wrist is not good for impact absorption either. A twist throttle makes the 'elbows up' position difficult to maintain, it results in asymmetry when throttle is applied, with one elbow up, the other down, the lowered elbow causing the shoulder to drop and upper torso to move to the side. Watch the start of any motocross race, including GP's and the AMA Nationals, all the elbows are up until the gate drops and then all the right elbows drop. (check here at 7.05min kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHXSfHxmnJ6GbJY and here from 0.00min kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHLSlJmNabGZodk ) All these drawbacks are amplified when the rider is standing. Regripping the throttle is the advised method of mitigating this, however this is less than ideal because it involves briefly letting go of the throttle grip to regrip the throttle when opening or closing the throttle. There is also asymmetry with the rider's connection to the handlebar with the left hand having a fixed non-moving grip and the right hand, a moving grip. The left hand/elbow can easily be locked into the elbow up, attack position but the right elbow is continually moving up and down.I believe that asymmetry lessens control. Having one elbow up and the other flapping up and down, having one fixed grip and one moving grip is not ideal for maximum control either. Try going through supercross whoops with one elbow down. Regripping also lessens control. Try to regrip while skimming supercross whoops. If you regrip to keep your elbow up and you suddenly need to decelerate you can end up not being able to completely shut off leading to an unexpected surge or "whiskey throttle". Proposal I propose that instead of having the position of the throttle-grip determine the amount of throttle and power, one take advantage of modern electronics (load cells) and have a mechanism that determines throttle opening according to pressure, i.e. twist force rather than throttle grip position, so instead of the position of the throttle grip determining the amount of throttle, the amount of throttle is determined by how much pressure or twist force the rider applies, with negligible actual throttle tube movement. (load cells are pressure sensors used in electronic scales and give a weight reading with negligible movement of the scale) In internal combustion motorcycles, a standard production throttle tube assembly could initially be used but with rubber stoppers allowing less than 2mm of resisted movement and instead of the throttle cable being connected to the throttle body, it's connected to a lever that applies pressure to to a load cell, the load cell being connected to a drive by wire throttle control unit that increases throttle opening when the load cell signals increased pressure. Later, if my system takes off and goes into production the pressure sensor would probably be built into the throttle housing much like a position sensor is built into the throttle housing of current ride by wire motorcycles. The optimum ratio of pressure to throttle opening will need to be determined by testing. One could even offer the option of individual tuning of the pressure to throttle opening ratio by the rider to their personal preference, similar to the different throttle tube cams that KTM currently offers .The thing with different throttle cam profiles is that a quick or short pull throttle reduces arm movement which is good but lessons throttle control which is bad, so there is always a compromise between minimum movement and throttle control. A twist pressure throttle is a solution to this problem. Turning up the pressure to throttle opening ratio would be the equivalent of having a long pull throttle (for good throttle control) without the downside of lots of (+-35 degrees) throttle tube movement. continued below...

[@robertduster8508]

Ron Lechien rode standing in corners in the 80's

[@pax497]

how are Jett and Deegan from different generations? huh? their 18 mos apart. Deegans sitting out SX waiting for Jett to leave the class next year.

[@Crazy8Gamming]

Star never starts riders coming out of amateurs in sx. More often than not the rider gets hurt and basically waste one year of their probably 2 year deal. Then they have the pressure of performing to stay on the team the next year. Most teams go for that model. Jett pointed out by winning a title, and this is his year to defend. Then he has to move up. Deegan just got on a 250 a year ago. He’s raced 2 pro races. Stop the hate and learn the dynamics of the sport

[@pax497]

@@Crazy8Gamming Wrong.. Justin Cooper.. In one breath, you say Jett pointed out; in the next breath you say he's defending... So, which is it? Sounds like you are riding the deegan pole.. BTW, I guarantee you I'm more of an industry insider than you've ever thought of being.. I've seen first hand the ducking and dodging of events to maintain a win streak by the deegs. Not hate, just calling out the facts. Why didn't deegan go from amateurs (out of lorettas) to outdoors? Romano did. Upon signing, Romano did. Deegan signed 8mos prior to outdoors. Age is just a number. His lap times tell the true story.

[@Crazy8Gamming]

@@pax497 When you win a 250sx title at any point of your eligibility you are classified as pointing out of the class. But you are allowed to defend. Say if he didnt defend then he is still not allowed to race a 250 event again in Sx. (excluding long leave of absence or what ever that rule states). Deegan was in B class last year at LL. He also couldn't have raced Unadilla. He had to score Pro sport points to be allowed to race. He made all the points he needed racing armature days up until Ironman. The last riders to come straight out of B class have been AC and Max Vohland (Schoolboy 1,125 B/C). Reynolds and Ramono raced pro sport at LL before turning pro. Yes you're right that Deegan has proved he can keep up in the pro class. But star as a team thinks long term success. Star hasnt had an AM rider move up into SX since Jcoop. I could be wrong. Look at the star riders over the years. When was the last rider to go straight into SX. Teams have learned not to do that. Besides PC. EX. Jett Reynolds.

[@kw68]

@@pax497 Romano was a n a class rider!! You should know that with all are inside info😉

[@pax497]

@@kw68 never said he wasn't... BUT,, still amature.. Even pro -am is amature. Try again sister.

[@bprickard]

The Dynamics have changed. We're now focused on roll speed through the corner rather than powering speed through the corner. Roll speed allows you to stand through the corner. Powering speed through the corner requires you to sit and put that foot up near the front axle.

[@racingfuel28]

Worst case scenario, if someone does clip it and post something saying “Catanzaro’s Cameraman Said ET3 Sucks” just reply, “yeah well that’s why he’s the cameraman, and not the instructor.”😂😂😂

[@dawgpolo6977]

In the 70's, Marty Tripes was riding feet on the pegs, and beating the best in the world.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

That’s cool! Didn’t know he kept feet on!

[@davidtomlinson8079]

One thing I’ve always noticed about Tomac is how always over the bars his head is.

[@5635randy]

Mary Smith his riding style changed it all

[@mitchell146]

Steve Remon, Marc De Ruver couple names from the past with modern technique.

[@markdawson8946]

What’s the point of the quiet guy being there!! I was at AJ’s school in New York. He’s an awesome instructor. He knows what he’s talking about. Perfect form on the bike!!

[@FeelGood_Films]

Tomac always rides with feet on the pegs and is fast

[@pax497]

how is Tomac top 3.. who are you bumping? MC, Ricky, James?

[@flowersthewizard9336]

Probably james as he used to crash a ton and you gotta be in it to win it

[@pax497]

@@flowersthewizard9336 Stewart won the Motocross of Nations twice and the World Supercross title three times. Additionally, he won four AMA Supercross Champion titles and three AMA Motocross Champion titles. Eli, 3 moto titles and 2 support. James innovated with the scrub.

[@carisi2k11]

@@pax497 4 x mx and 2 sx 450 titles + 2 x 250 titles for eli and still counting. James should be top 3 but his crashes and only winning the titles he did brings his top 3 claims down. James should have put some title numbers up similar to RC but he only has 3 450 sx /mx titles like Chad Reed in this regard.

[@pax497]

​@@carisi2k11 sure. but what also needs to be taken into account is the sheer dominance of the rider. also, the innovation of the rider. Ask the question: did the rider change the sport? Eli is really no more dominant than Villo was.

[@kountatalk]

I get what yous are saying but it does sound weird when you're critiquing ET3?? haha

[@OTBkid]

Take the corner like a mountain bike

[@rickrossi4468]

AJ MAKE MAINS AND RIDE UP FRONT!

[@TheyForcedMyHandLE]

Why have the 3rd guy there? Bro didn't get to say a word.

[@Stinky_sack]

I personally believe we put too much emphasis on technique. Stick to the basics. Elbows up, balls of your feet, squeeze with your legs. I mean look at villopoto. Uncommon riding style but one of the greats. Just ride the bike the best way you know how while sticking to the basics. Seat time Seat time Seat time

[@craigmccall7450]

The tech is from BMX.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

It translates across the board from bmx, mtb and moto! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@SW-bs2jz]

haha... I have 75 Husky 360 CR....

[@blubug768]

What do you think about Buttery's technique? 🤣

[@totkop2156]

Lmao

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

Gottemmm

[@carisi2k11]

His technique is all Buttery. Those guys just goon ride and have fun while doing so.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

I would love to work with buttery for a day. He’s a tall rider and he rides with his knees too far forward making him look a bit crowded on the bike. It would be easy fix, he just needs to drop his heels a bit more to get his knees back👍🏼

[@MyNameIsDraven]

10 years two strokes are back stacking the gates lol everything comes full circle right? Hahaha

[@TJKlein-ms5mg]

Marty Tripes. Look him up.

[@richpitty]

His riding style is very good but he didn’t do well making races in the 450 class and not that hot in the 250 class I’m an A.J fan I’m not bashing just saying his technique is great just not that fast in pro racing anyway

[@johnbarnhart7174]

Jett Lawrence is not mentioned in video, very misleading title.

[@robertrishel3685]

100% feet up, on the pegs. I have been saying this since I started riding trials back in the 1980’s as training for MX. Of course I was never able to adapt it because I sucked. But it IS the way, 100%. It’s just safer for the rider and offers better control. Honestly, AJ is a Fu@#ing genius! It’s about time someone really examined how to really ride a motorcycle!!!

[@chrispbacon4480]

If AJ's method is better why isn't he the fastest guy on the track. Jet has one of if not the best technique and it shows in his riding and results.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

I probably only ride 25 hours a year. Top pros ride that amount in 3 weeks. Technique is what allows me to show up to a Supercross race with essentially zero practice and qualify top 15 and do with very few mistakes 😁👍🏼

[@keithbell8960]

A lot of this sounds the same as trials riding

[@Matthew-zw9su]

Tweak boot soles to achieve desired results.

[@Scandle68]

Definitely less likely to have a knee injury with this technique

[@Fatonzzz]

It would have been really nice to have heard coach James’ thoughts. He’s too polite to interject. Please give him space next time.

[@74Muthesius]

While I think emphasizing racing on the balls of your feet is a good thing and will definitely help improve your riding, I do not agree with it being new or revolutionary. I used to race a lot back in the late 90's, and I definitely went to the balls of my feet as much as possible. Its intuitive and natural for humans. Claiming that ET3 doesn't ride on the balls of his feet is simply not true. I did a quick google search and found plenty of pictures of Eli on the balls of his feet. I'm sorry, but this isn't new and your technique is not going to make you better than Bob Hannah or Roger Decoster. If you watch racing back in the 70's and 80's it is very obvious that the machines were holding back the riders (and to a slightly lesser degree, track design). The bikes' evolution is what have allowed riders to start being able to push the limits, not technique. All I'm trying to say is that I think you can stamp your name on "being the first to emphasize riding on the balls of your feet", just don't say that its revolutionary or the next big thing.

[@marmaleg5309]

Exactly. Also I think at some level, the rider needs to do what he thinks is best for the situation. Tomac lets it all hang out when he sees fit and if he doesn't end up on the ground and wins, then he's done exactly what needed to be done. His instinct is huge is what I mean.

[@m3hsid10]

To be clear....what AJ emphasizes is keeping your feet on the pegs through turns and ruts. That's what he preaches. I've taken his riding class. It is excellent!!!

[@koppins851]

In 15 years from now you wont have a shifter and rear brake paddle anymore.

[@franklempka2159]

Deegan can’t touch Jett!!!

[@ThatWeekendWarrior04]

the electric mx bikes require a diff riding style. so it will def evolve in the next ten years.

[@dazmckeown9428]

Absolutely man, I’ve had a surron x for two years and is the best bike for peg riding, and it shows when I ride my yz 250, I’m pretty much always on my toes.. it’s the torque of the electric bikes that keep you fast on your feet 🤙🏼

[@themotoacademypodcast]

I’m sure it will! 👍🏼

[@joebrock2470]

Your style is too conservative to be fast enough to win races

[@flowersthewizard9336]

His style is just proper form. You can coach a gymsast all the moves but they decide if they're commited enough to win

[@themotoacademypodcast]

I agree! I don’t ride enough to find that “edge” so I just stick to textbook technique at all times so I stay safe. Consistent seat time and being fit is what unlocks that next level. So Joe, you’re exactly right!

[@streetrider11]

#CancelCam

[@themotoacademypodcast]

Hahahah!!!

[@ramsey108_]

Maybe stop caring about where your feet are 90% of the time and get better then you can criticise Tomac, Lawrence, Deegan

[@rogershipman3578]

You don't have to pay anybody to "teach" you how to use a "technique" to ride fast. I hate to be a buzz kill, but there is no such thing as "technique" in riding a dirt bike. Everybody rides the same. Fundamentally everybody stands up over bumps and jumps, and absorbs those impacts with their legs. Then sit in corners to maintain momentum. It's basic. What separates the top pros is how they can control a bike going a lot faster than everybody else, while applying those basic fundamentals. You're welcome.

[@themotoacademypodcast]

🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@adriansgmail7885]

uhmm no

[@matcmusic]

Why does Cam sound exactly like the commentator Weege? God it’s annoying

[@imtheonevanhalen1557]

Watch 1982 Super Bikers ABC Wide World of Sports.....Magoo Chandler beat the best OF the best at the time on a CR 500. He would have ridden circles around the sassy Aussie, and Tomac just toyed with Goober the last few races. Ask Jetty if HE thinks he could ride with Eli?......nope, put another shrimp on the barbie....lol

[@CR250rSMITH]

Your great on a bike dont get me wrong but You praise your style and skill and your not even the best trainer lol tyler from mx factory is faster then you...everyones technique is personal preference IMO

[@brentrhoades6652]

AJ is a 🤡

[@utahdesertrider1806]

Video guy talks to much. Stomped all over the kid when the kid tried to talk. SMH

[@moto7622]

you never made it !