Does Metaphysics Reveal Reality? | Episode 908 | Closer To Truth

[@soubhikmukherjee6871]

I love learning metaphysics.

[@NaturalFuture]

Metaphysics is to physics what logic is to reason. The first enables you to properly structure the second. As logic enables us to properly structure a line of reasoning to arrive at the truth about an argument, metaphysics enables us to systematically study the truth about the innermost workings of reality.

[@henrycavanagh1259]

Nah. Not an apt analogy.

[@NaturalFuture]

@@henrycavanagh1259 No, it probably isn't---to someone who isn't thinking.

[@shadadalshad2574]

This Kuhn guy is extremely inspiring,I can't say I actually learn new ideas from his videos but I do cultivate a tranquil curiosity

[@BugRib]

Cool episode! Now do a sequel that features Bernard Kastrup, Philip Goff, Peter Sjöstedt-H, and some of the newer up-and-comers working on philosophy of mind and metaphysics! Would love to see Hedda Hassel Mørch and Miri Albahari get more exposure, too!

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

Thank you, Mr. Kuhn, for this great presentation. I love learning about all the different aspects on the topic. It makes me think more, which is great.

[@petercreed2471]

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[@steelersgoingfor7in2024]

Metaphysics is just the verbal future of the scientific method. Science by practical use and evolution, is ever changing. As we develope more sophisticated and seemingly impossible tools to experiment, the fantastic becomes known and normal. Hence the meta that is chased becomes more and more unattainable...until it isn't.

[@Earthad23]

Reality is a habituated miracle.

[@Shaz8888Asland]

Perspective, from, “Nature’s Evolutionary Principle”⚡ Thank you, Robert, for these interviews. It was interesting to hear them all. Subject: “Does Metaphysics Reveal Reality” re: the interview with Bas C. Van Frraassen: First, I must say that I am not a metaphysician. I do have a natural calling, to share an “Evolutionary Principle” - from the nature of Nature… so some people might see me as metaphysical. However, my own experience is not philosophical, but is in sharing a ‘direct experience’ of a natural Principle of Life, that is alive - in the Being state…. beyond what we call, the physical world. Speaking to the interview, with Bas: There must be a Universal Principle, which is the essential Nature of Life, and underlies its manifestations in the physical world - as we call them. Why? BeCause - Without the underlying and inherent Universal Principle, there would be no Life, first of all…. So, there must be, a consistent and continuous Essence of Life (which is a self-evident understanding), in order for existence to be present… which It Is. Secondly, without this Essence, there would be no continuous source or support for any quality of harmony, order, balance, or the unfolding of Life, and its forms of manifestation. Bas says, “We want explanations, and that the main vehicle for metaphysics, is the demand for explanations.” Although I would say …. while explanations are often what are searched for…. the main vehicle, is the natural impetus for a “direct experience of the Nature of Life, ItSelf” - which takes us beyond any kind of explanations. (*In addition, all questions are answered in this “direct experience” of Life.) Bas says, “You push these questions beyond what we can test, and you land in the illusions of reason.” How sad! And, I completely disagree. (*Although, I do see that there are many illusory wanderings within the context of the metaphysical world, as with all others…. but this does not invalidate the validity of Metaphysics, itself.) re: Bas statement: If we stay in, “the land of reason” - in only “what we can test” alone, we are wandering in the mind of logic alone…. which is full of illusion. And I do not mean this personally, but, is this not the arrogance of traditional science? ….the belief that only “what can be tested” is valid or real…? Why do I disagree? BeCause - Logic is informed by intuition, and both of these functions of our experience and perception work together - Yin and Yang, as one whole. When we are experiencing the Nature of reality….for Real…. we do not “land in illusion” at all. We land in an experience of Life, ItSelf, which is the substance of everything, (including ourselves) and for instance, revealed in the natural Principle of Harmony, in the Fibonacci series. And to return to a point made by Richard, which is that Metaphysics, and associated fields, are coming into a central focus throughout the world at this time. Bas sees this as sad and unfortunate. I feel this is a sad ‘position’ to consider, for anyone. The current focus on the Nature of Reality, is in the forefront of our consciousness… BeCause - Consciousness, ItSelf is revealing more of Life🌟within us…. and also, BeCause - Many, many people around the world, are having more actual experiences of the very nature of Consciousness, Life, and The Real. This is Humanity evolving.⚡⚡⚡ Wishing You All the Goodness of Life 🌟 You Are! -from Shastina Free, at: Graceful Spontaneous Evolution and A Divine Feminine Evolutionary Field

[@dhammaboy1203]

Great discussion on the various views circling metaphysics.

[@philoepictetus9173]

Thank you for this video. I'm Dutch, I drop school because I have dyslexia. Then I worked in my fathers painting company. And I Always thought "colours" where are they made off?. Now I'm 40 years old. But they never learnd me at school that I'm the INTP. Now I Know I am. Cogito ergo sum.

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

I love that you are a seeker, Mr. Khun, and that deeper, human things matter to you. 🌞🌿🌷❤️🌹

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

I like your comments on Metaphysics, Mr. Khun. Thank you for sharing them with us. 😊🌞🌿👍🌷🌹

[@davidgrim9853]

BEST video of the whole series! Thank you for a well developed summary about metaphysics and it's common problems and issues.

[@davidgrim9853]

"Is consciousness a test case for metaphysics?" Brilliant way to pose that question!

[@fjgiie]

I quit school after three terms in the third grade. Rosevelt, Truman, and another president that I forgot. Can someone please tell me what means metaphysics?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

A more modern, respectable philosphy / metaphysics would not only advance ultimate reality, would also make science more relevant.

[@Meditation409]

Another great episode! 👍💯

[@mintakan003]

Yeah. I've encountered a kind of skepticism about philosophy on the part of many scientists. "You should always listen to a philosopher's question, but never to their answers" (~Anil Seth, neuroscientist). The impression I'm oftentimes left listening to philosophical debates is a constant spinning around familiar (somewhat obfuscating) high level concepts, such as "free will", "substances", "essences", ... all of which came from an age before we had any real (detailed) data, on how things actually work. The way things actually work maybe very different from how we conceptualize (language, or even "experience") them. We can get lost in our own words. One neuroscientist used the analogy of arguing about a river. Why does it "bend"? What is the nature of its "bendiness"? Is there a special realm for "bends"? What is the ontology for "bends"? This doesn't mean the philosopher can't have a role to play. It would be in the realm of clarifying our concepts, our use of words. Even "materialism" is a metaphysical stance. So a scientist is not free from this. The philosopher can play the role of a facilitator, to help spell out the assumptions, to help navigate the questions. Besides metaphysics, perhaps an even more immediate pressing role is a practical one. It is in the realm of ethics and public policy, esp. in helping society decide what it wants to do with regards to new technologies, such as AI, gene editing, synthetic biology, all of which has its potential benefits, as well as dangers.

[@caricue]

That is a cute way of showing absurdity talking about "bends" and their true essence. This same neuroscientist probably thinks of consciousness as a "field" of some kind rather than a physical property of matter. Heck, he might even call it an illusion as he contemplates it in his conscious mind. It's a tough thing to get a handle on. The observer has to observe itself observing. I do agree with your point that there is an actual reality "out there" that is not dependent on our belief or understanding, and since a brain can only deal with concepts, ideas or images, it will always be something less than the actual object that we are trying to understand. Having lived now through at least 30 years of a technological revolution of increasing crazy change, I think that it isn't the technology we have to fear, but our evolved natures that may not fit in the world we are making.

[@caricue]

@Al Garnier They say that Philosophy is the queen of the sciences. The scientific method was devised by philosophers to find actual truths about the natural world through experimentation. Science has gone off the rails and started looking for ultimate or fundamental truths because philosophy has gone off on crazy logical tangents instead of guiding science to keep them honest, and to keep them searching for regularities in nature, not cosmic truths. The human race could use a little adult supervision.

[@casl7266]

@@caricue Yes! Adult supervision is what is needed.

[@fadfsdfasfsa]

You said a lot, and all of it is nonsense! Philosophers from Presocratics to Aristotle, Plato of the Middle Ages, through Descartes, Leibniz, Hume, Locke, Kant to the modern philosopher, not to mention so many, but Frege, Russell, Wittgenstein, Kripke, Parfit, Chalmers, then had intellectual achievements for our humanity that all science and non-scientists ever do. You won't have a computer for your education without Frege's and Russell's foundations of modern logic, as well as all the other great minds before them, because computer working on logic who they discovered and built base. Not to mention the theoretically cognitive value of logic and philosophy in general, all discussions, if they even pretend to be rational, must be based on logic, the entire human thought is canonized by logical laws, as Leibniz says, on the principle of the exclusion of the third, the principle of contradiction and identity, rests entire human thought. Not to mention modal logic and everything else, which you obviously can't come up with with your intellectual capacities. All neuroscientists as well as physicists and others like biologists, chemists, etc., naively believe in monistic ontology - materialism (physicalism) does not even think about it, and they are all wrong, just like they naively believe in scientism, and so on. Science is powerless to answer any of the key philosophical questions - about identity in general, and especially about personal identity, such as the relationship between mind and body, one of the biggest puzzles of human life, ethical questions, theory of knowledge, metaphysics, logic, etc., etc. None of these questions that are dealt with by these philosophical disciplines of science can be answered? Can science tell me what is good, what is right, what should be done? Is the mid independent of the body or not, what is consciousness, what constitutes my personal identity and how it persist over time. Just read Chalmers' two books "Conscious Mind" and "Character of Consciousness" and Parfit's "Reasons and Persons" and "On What Matters" and you will see what philosophy has to offer. The great mind before them, Descartes, Leibniz, Hume, Kant, etc., did the same. Any intelligent person would understand that science cannot offer answers to these questions. Just take Parfit's brain-splitting thought experiment to be transplanted into two bodies or copied cell by cell to Mars by some machine. What happens to our "I", does it come to exist in two places in two different bodies, that is obviously impossible, or if you copy me on Mars cell by cell, and animalism - idea that we are made of biological cells and nothing else, we are just biological organisms, what about me then, I continue to exist there? How two separete persons can be me, when personal identity is one-to-one relation, just one person is me or no persons that is me. And if you believe in animalism, that we are purely biological organisms, then how does your "I" survive when during life the cells are constantly changing, after 40 years a person changes all the cells, that is a biological fact, how will you then explain the identity of the substance if there is no essences or substantial forms?

[@fadfsdfasfsa]

Also, for your education, the philosopher invented the logical canon of all human thought, and logic is the most rigid science, and the philosopher used and dealt with logic a lot. What idiocy, don't listen to philosophers' answers, that all great scientists admired and learned from philosophers, for example, Einstein's views are more influenced by philosophers than physics, you can check that fact very easily, Hume, Spinoza, Kant and Schopenhauer, Ernst Mach. Not to mention the philosophers who are amazing scientists and mathematicians, Descartes, who was the first man to introduce the concept of "scientific law" into science, the concept of reflection of energy, the founder of analytical geometry, introduced the concept of variable coordinate system. , the Cartesian product of sets, methodology and not to mention everything in philosophy. Leisbnitz, the calculus, the ideal of relativity of space and time 300 years before Einstein, the first ideal of the binary code, and the universal language, the last polymath of Western civilization, and there are no days to talk about his intellectual achievements, perhaps the greatest human genius of the Aristotle species, who through the middle called the "teacher of the human race" for the century, and then a bastard like you imagines that - neuroscientists give advice to whom you should listen. What about Hume, Locke, Kant, Frege, Russell, Wittgenstein, Quine, Kripke, all the other great logicians and mathematicians whose works you can only imagine reading and understanding. Kripke proved the completeness theorem for modal logic in 17 years, and Gödel is considered one of the greatest logicians and mathematicians in history, he proved the incompleteness theorem for arithmetic at the age of 23, that's all about what philosophers know, after kripke he became the most influential philosopher from the end of the 20th and the beginning of the 21st century, especially in modal metaphysics, philosophy of language, modal logic. His level of math skills at 13 years old is at the level of people who are PhDs in mathematics, and you and some scientists are talking about a philosopher, ridiculous, just ridiculous. Do you know who Frege and Russell are and what they achieved in logic and philosophy?

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

Bas's idea of metaphysics being an illusion makes me question- What does Bas think about the Mystics of history who, after deep mediations received revelations, and shared them with the rest of us. What does Bas think about that?

[@peterjones6507]

He probably doesn't think about it at all. Western metaphysicians find metaphysics useless precisely because they do not know the metaphysics of mysticism. So they have no interpretation for the results of metaphysical analysis.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

In trying to explain ultimate reality, philosophy / metaphysics may have to use language more effectively than science uses mathematics to describe physical reality. General appeals to God, weak arguments, and imprecise use of language have to be improved upon to establish a worthwhile and productive enterprise for this. Closer to Truth has made great strides in this direction and can be built off to advance.

[@breana95]

I agree

[@achyuthcn2555]

Existence is One and Infinite. Existence is Pure Awareness since the existence in you is aware. Since you are aware, you are existence. A human should live to realize this Truth. There is no salvation for any being untill he starts loving everyone as self.

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

Any chance that the points made here could be explained more indepth (because I'm having a hard time understanding some of the points here)?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Science uses mathematics to describe physical reality, philosophy uses language to explain reality beyond the physical (whatever the best term is)

[@njeyasreedharan]

Philosophy uses language to describe metaphysical reality ...

[@kevinsayes]

I love RLK, I’ve watched nearly ever CTT most likely. And perhaps I’m missing the obvious or my views on it paint my misunderstanding, but does Robert “want” there to be a God to explain the gaps? Or does he simply acknowledge many people throughout history have filled these gaps with God, so it’s worth exploring if he’s going to get a full picture of the state of answering the big questions? Generally curious and not looking to cast judgement on him

[@vblake530530]

After degrees in Chemistry, Medicine ( including a full Professorship in medicine) , & a degree in Theology. I’m thinking that Science is Philosophy, with Numbers. Fuck it.

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

I love how Ned Block thinks. It's true! Philosophy and Metaphysics are an important part in Classical Education in ancient Greece and in the middle ages in Europe. I love the consideration that science and metaphysics can be together- it was in ancient Greece!

[@robertjkuklajr3175]

Robert Lawrence Kuhn; have or will you do an episode on mysticism?

[@JohnVKaravitis]

Can you not look at this KZbin channel and look for all the videos they've uploaded???

[@robertjkuklajr3175]

@@JohnVKaravitis Hmm. Kind of think i did that first. The reason i asked is that maybe its under a different title.

[@bajajones5093]

kukla, try Jeffrey Mishlove at "new thinking allowed" lots of mysticism there. darn good channel = try it!

[@junevandermark952]

“We are all hallucinating all the time, including right now. It’s just that when we agree about our hallucinations, we call that reality.” Anil Seth … neuroscientist.

[@theartofancientegyptianmet1747]

A beautiful presentation on Metaphysics, albeit its western perspective. A deeper understanding of true Metaphysics will lead us to its core root, Ancient Egyptian Philosophy, the school that taught, Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras and other Greek Philosophers.

[@dhammaboy1203]

Thanks for sending me down a fascinating and time consuming wormhole of ancient Egyptian philosophy!

[@theartofancientegyptianmet1747]

@@dhammaboy1203 You’re welcome! Did you learn anything in the process? Yes it is an endless journey

[@dhammaboy1203]

@@theartofancientegyptianmet1747 just started. Just reading about how ideas from Ancient Egypt influenced Ancient Greece.

[@theartofancientegyptianmet1747]

@@dhammaboy1203 Egypt was and still is the true fountain of Wisdom-Higher Spiritual Knowledge. The book, “The Temple of Man” by R.A. Shwaller de Lubicz, is all you need to to prove it. The concepts and philosophical Principles in this book alone will open your eyes to the entire civilization. Happi Readings!

[@dhammaboy1203]

@@theartofancientegyptianmet1747 I will check it out! Clearly a highly developed ancient civilization! A

[@steveodavis9486]

Metaphysics,the illusion of reason. It's an art of exploration never ending. More fun than material reductionism can be.

[@InfinityBlue4321]

Hi Robert... you should keep both eyes at metaphysics. Be aware of what one of your guest said : " as metaphyics philosophers get into and understand science (and its limitations), new answers are about to be given ( by metaphysics)... In fact something that keeps puzzling anyone with eyes, standing outside but looking to the mainstream materialistic boxes is: why, cant this people realize that our essence and reality is created by the most important thing in the know Universe, our immaterial mind? Why cant they just see as an empiric and CLEAR truth that our Mind is immaterial, as well as all INFORMATION it creates and deals with? Despite and regardless of the informational evolution process that created the basic matter- hardware (body-Brain) to support the emergence of this mind?

[@psmoyer63]

I think this is your best show! The interview with Daniel Dennett sums up what I learned in my four years of liberal arts philosophy: Philosophy is the study of the meaning of questions. Once the question is broken down and properly analyzed it can be answered in the appropriate field of science. AND in order to do proper science, it is critical that you ask the proper philosophical questions in every step along the way. Beyond that, there is no such thing as "philosophizing".

[@lukedavis6711]

What about questions that have no obvious answer or even some obvious place to start

[@petersmoyer5679]

@@lukedavis6711 That is the perfect example of where philosophy is useful. So provide an example.

[@lukedavis6711]

@@petersmoyer5679 easy How does science work? Does all of science follow the same pattern or are their multiple sciences? Are there ways of knowing besides science? If all we have access to is our qualia (phenomena) is the belief in an objective reality (noumena) an untestable metaphysical belief? When is a belief justified? Is a scientific law more that just a consistent summary of observation? What is a true interpretation of a piece of art like a play, novel, music, painting? Does the universe contain meaning or is all meaning man made? Is math invented or discovered? Are proofs without constraction valid? Are there neccesarily truths? How many types of truth are there and what are their relations? I could literally go on forever. There is vastly more questions like this than there are questions we have answers to or know where to start. It's weird to me that people stay in the safety of the shallow pool of our knowledge where we have answers and fool themselves into thinking this safe area is all there is. At the fringes of what we know is what we do not know. Some of this has moved over the years and some we havent put a dent in: for instance in physics a current question is does time have an imaginary component but a question in morality is still basicly the same old unanswered is there a justification for morality.

[@stevecoley8365]

Metaphysical Hierarchy: Mystic... beautiful dreaming Magical... harmony Musical... language of music Artistic... pictures/metaphors Poetic... language of words Numerical...we are here Mystics create the most joy (smart). Accountants create the least joy (ignorant). Yet accountants rule the world (ignorant). Ever notice that beings who speak in the language of music can create joy that energizes thousands of beings to celebrate and dance? Ever notice that corpses that speak with brain numbing, soul sucking numbers do the exact opposite? Sanction, starve, torture, murder and bomb (wheeeee)! Ignorance (hate) is bliss for vampires (greed). But not much fun for the humans (love) who they are sucking the joy out of. The evangelical vampires (greed) are inhumane because they are not human. The evangelical counting corpses commit crimes against humanity because they are not human. Light and truth (love) cause vampires (greed) great pain and suffering. That's why the words "democratic society" (socialism), "care for all" and "green new deal" cause the evangelical counting corpses that rule US such misery. The alien monsters are desperate to control a darkship called the Whitehouse. Because working in the dark to suck the joy out of life and devour earth is the only way that the loveless, lifeless are parasites can survive and thrive. Unlike earthling poets, artists, musicians, mystics, human beings and creators of joy...the counting corpses that rule US can't create harmony (real intelligence) because vampires (greed) are ignorant (dead). Darkness (business) exists so that stars like US have a place to shine in heaven. Stars like US don't exist to be sucked out of heaven by a giant black hole in space called greed and it's ignorance (hate). Currently, the evangelical vampires (greed) are hiding behind the robe of truth (love) to worship ignorance (hate). The truth said with the wrong intent is worse than all that lies invent.

[@mikeguliano3159]

You can't really avoid it either way. If you say metaphysics doesn't reveal reality, that's a metaphysical claim. If you say that the material world is all that exists so metaphysical speculation is nonsense, that's a metaphysical claim. It's not a question of whether metaphysics is bullshit or not; it's how speculative or how minimalist your metaphysics is, and the justification you give for your particular view.

[@ferdinandkraft857]

What if I take an "agnostic" viewpoint and make none of these claims?

[@mikeguliano3159]

@@ferdinandkraft857 That's a good objection! Tough question you posed. I want to say that a good number of people take that view in their everyday life. Like Heidegger would say, maybe everyone has an implicit metaphysics? Like when you reach for a door handle, you obviously "believe" it's real? So maybe a lot of our metaphysics is unconscious

[@mikeguliano3159]

@zempath So science = reality for you? Isn't that Scientism?

[@mikeguliano3159]

@zempath So what do you say to Dennett's claim that there is no philosophy-free science? Btw I would never argue that science, by itself, isn't the engine for progress in terms of understanding the natural world, or that you need philosophy to do good science.

[@dosomething3]

Thumbs up for interviewing Daniel Dennet.

[@thriceconcussed1]

Nah, Searle is the man! The _Chinese_ _Room_ thought experiment is still a brilliant argument against the possibility of humans creating conscious machines.

[@oscarklauss9802]

If it's important and worth living by way of metaphysics, then by all means explore it that way. All it has to do is fit in with your priorities. Find the seem so's of might be knowledge ideas, and reasoning with those. I take experience as an actuality that informs of me of actuality. Others call experience a persistent illusion. I live the idea that identity is real and existent. It's far better because the alternative gets you nowhere. And experience itself informs me. I can live either one. And actuality of actually knowing that a metaphysical question can be answered is often unknowable. Sometimes we have to take leaps of courage to know further about those matters. If metaphysics is a worthy trip then take it. Experience does verify a lot. Our interpretations of it can fool us into living non actual things. Truth is an important thing. Imagination can be brought to reality. " I don't know " , is also a worthy trip. Keep testing those correlates. At the end of the day you might find something that works really well, and still never know if it's true, or false. At the end of the day as long as it's worthy then it serves humanity. I love the pursuit of finding out though, and living not to be fooled. I love beliefs that actually take us places of interest as well. Unless it is the Knowns of the experience of the object world I am inclined to think that nobody knows what a sequitur or non sequitur looks like.

[@Boogieplex]

Daniel Dennet is crazy smart.He always gets me thinking in ways I don’t normally think. Love it

[@caricue]

But don't you think it is rather perverse to make your bones as the guy who denies the most basic of human experiences, i.e. consciousness. Why not say that pain is an illusion, or hunger. I acknowledge that he is super intelligent, but he's the dumbest smart person when it comes to this subject.

[@ferdinandkraft857]

@@caricue He is not denying, he has a different take on the subject.

[@Boogieplex]

Steve C He Doesnt deny consciousness, he just doesn’t think there’s anything really “supernatural” or “non physical “ to it.when it comes to consciousness, we may not have the whole story, but in general,i agree with everything he says.He says how we think of consciousness is an illusion, and i tend to agree.We like to think theres something really special about it.

[@caricue]

@@Boogieplex That's my point. I don't believe that consciousness is special in the cosmic sense, but it is everything in the personal sense, so I feel that he is being rude and dismissive to say that it is an illusion. I just recently watched another of his lectures, and he was talking about the flag illusion, and he said that it does not exist in the retina or in the brain. I don't know how much more clear he could be. I'll link the video here. You only have to watch the first 5 minutes to get his point. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYqciaBrrcyce6c

[@hanssacosta1990]

Love love lloveeee all ypur videoa mate, their all have something special and the music that playw at the begining is also amazing

[@jayabalamurugan974]

A child asks his parents where was I before being born,parents cannot answer because the subtle stuff was there before, during pregnancy and birth it is in gross form which questioned it's(the child) existentialism to their parents who were unable to provide a provide a perfect solution and answer inspite of being their act of involvement at least in a part of the whole in child's creationism, this is metaphysics in regard to everything minimus illusionary. Philosophy began's where science ends and fuels science forward for further progression.

[@NaturalFuture]

Here's my answer to your question on whether any sort of abstract entity called "black" is the foundation for the color black---and Princeton philosopher Bas van Fraassen's on why anyone should even ask the question: Before the physical color black can exist, it must first be logically possible in the form of a an abstract object that is logically possible. The reason we need to ask this is to discover this profound truth. It's funny that this answer eluded a recognized expert in metaphysics, but not undecorated persons like you and me.

[@darnellmajor9016]

Some people literally cant teach or explain metaphysics which is the irony of trying to explore the topic. If you know what metaphysics truly is then you should be able to embody is physically while explaining it at the same time.

[@dr.satishsharma9794]

Excellent..... thanks 🙏.

[@b0ondockz838]

Interview Chris Langan.

[@ceesjanmol]

Schopenhauer e.g. does not state that you can only see experiences (which, to begin with, is not what you do with experiences: you experience them, which is why they are called experiences). Schopenhauer (at least in the original German) says that you cannot feel *the* Earth, you only know how it feels to touch the Earth with your hands. You cannot see *the* sun. You only know what it's like to see the sun you know. In writing that, Schopenhauer exploits a grammatical feature of German, which is the distinction between 'Die Erde' (*the* sun) and 'eine Erde' (*a* sun). In other words, much like you cannot feel The Earth and cannot see The Sun, you cannot experience The Reality but only a reality through the particulars of a language (not 'Die Sprache', *the* language which dus not exist). Consequently, by deploying the word 'intentionality' the way Searle does, he is creating a particular use of English that enables him to address the world the way he wants to. Much like using your hands to touch this planet, or raising your eyes to the sky to see the light from another.

[@julianledezma5633]

Thats amazing my first experience happened at a border check point like 60 miles from delrio tx on hwy 277 i was illegal had recently been deported like 6 months prior and obviously i didnt have legal status but i went back because i had 2 lil baby girls and a wife in the US so i risked evrything to get back to them i prayed to God to please let me get back to my children imagine being arrested separated from your family i was raised in delrio since the age of 6 went to sxhool and evrything my friends didnt even kno i was illegal no one knew only my fam and when i broke the law i got deported I was 22 yrs old so i spent 3 months in val verde county and then sent to crystal city to be deported thru eaglepass into Mexico so when i finally got deported it was like losing my family for the 2nd time and my journey jst got tougher 5 months later i finally got the oportunity to cross and i made it across the river got to my grandmas house in del Rio and chilled there for about a month then i had to try and make it past the checkpoint to get to my family which was in pittsburg texas about an 1 1/2 hr east of dallas I rode these vans that take ppl from the border to like dallas or ft worth but when we got to the check point a black border patrol opens the van sidedoor and asks the passengers for their visas and all of them had theirs except me i had no documents no id nothing when he points to me and says what about you? all i could say was oh im a us citizen and i remember he said get your bags and get down i was scared and lost cuz I knew I'D be back in jail and then deported again and wasnt gonna be able to get to be with my family my little girls and that completely shattered my whole being I felt completely lost. I got up my hands were shaking i couldnt keep my composure and i slowly moved toward the front to exit and this lady was sitting next to my bag and i guess she saw me shaking that when i reached for my luggage she leaned toward me and jst bearly touched my hand and in spanish she whispered in my ear "con calma mijo con calma " and i felt her bearly touch my hand as i reached to grab my bag and I blinked and when i opened my eyes I was in this huge open space and it was all white like the clouds i was in this vast white space and i immediately became engulfed by this feeling of peace and love and happines joy all in once and i opened my arms cus i wanted embrace the eternal love i was feeling and i remember opening my eyes and in thought i dont think i spoke I said in my mind but outloud i said "O my God i know its you where are you? and I'm looking around in this vast open white space as i asked the question and i started seeing images like tvs showing me all kinds of pictures and i saw how God is everything the air we breathe the water we drink the last grain of sand in all the oceans in all the planets in all the universe he showed me how he is everywhere and everything then after seeing that i started to wonder about my self cuz i was concience i knew who i was i didnt lose my identity and i look down at my legs and feet cuz i could feel i had them cus when i first got their i opened my arms and i could feel i had legs but when i looked down i couldnt see them like the werent there and I looked to my arms and i couldnt see them either as im looking at my missing arms and legs that i felt i had i noticed these little beams of light coming straight out of my eyes and i remember putting my hands to my face even tho i couldnt see them i still used them and moved like i had them and as I moved my hand close to my face to try and catch the light beams coming out of my eyes i noticed that my head was this yellow light that i was emiting from my head and i saw how i was a ball of energy floting in this eternal vast pure white place which made a contrast well in the vast white eternal place i saw it firery like a energy and then i blinked again and i was back on earth i calculated it lasted about 12 seconds and also i remember that the feeling of eternal love it was the most beautiful feeling ive ever felt in my life never felt it again since them and i cry evrytime i remember i can't help it and i remember that the feeling of love and peace increased in intensity with every passing second the feeling of eternal love kept rising with evrysecond and i felt that if i had stayed in their the feeling would of kept rising almost as if it would never stop growimg it felt like the eternal love and peace i felt would of kept rising for ever it was eternal jst like the white vast space the love feeling matched the white eternal space they both went on forever i felt like i could run in there and never ever hit a wall or nothing it was so pure in there that i couldn't even think of anything about the world almost like it didn't even matter not even a small negative thought could exist in there it didnt let you think of anything negative or the world it completely didnt matter then like i said i opened my eyes and I was back on earth and still had to face the border patrol 4 deep amd i remember the first thought that came to my mind when i saw the border patrol this phrase crossed my mind " game on" i felt so smart and so mentally sharp that i tell my family i felt like if you threw an apple in the air i could chop it in half with jst my eye sight i honestly felt ready for the interrogation long story short they drilled me for 40 minutes and couldnt figure out why i was there with no documents and they went on a trip trying to bust me but all the right answers came rightt outta my mouth 40 minutes later they had nothing finally the guy. Gave up and said next time you come down here again make sure you bring your id or your documents and that day after all that i finally got reunited with my lil baby girls and wife I will forever be Greatful Dear Heavenly Father for your mrecy thank you Jesus in your name Amen! And that was my first experience in 2002 and didnt have te courage to tell it untill 18 years later.

[@psterud]

If a question is too tough to answer, it is not being asked properly.

[@Spark-lm7ly]

We exist in Space which is not only outside as it appears but also inside this contour of flesh and bones we have : it is very natural to understand both dimensions as they relate to the Reference Point we find ourselves to be so that as a living entity we are well equipped to survive . We find an incessant movement all around which complicates our understanding of what is Real and Unreal : this uncertainty threatens our very existence that we take as granted : our ultimate need is to survive for which we need information : Nature's Intelligence is that information we have access to : all organisms have inbuilt tools to extract and process that information to help survive and contribute in the evolutionary cycle of the Cosmos ! We have a tool we call Brain which we find working sometimes " logically " and at other times beyond logical explanation : but always " in a flux" : the process of sifting out something relevant to our survival we label by numerous word - constructs : call it " philosophy " or "metaphysics " or " science " : that's immaterial ! What really matters is whether it helps you cope with NATURE of which you are just an infinitesimal part !

[@profcharlesflmbakaya8167]

Metaphysics is absolutely so much needed to stretch reality to what it is and needed in science when philosophising as it is expected.of the territory. Trying to entirely delink science from philosophy and metaphysics in particular is misguided. At my PhD graduation for example,, i, Iheard this words from my Chancellor: " By the powers vested on me by the University Senate, I give you power to read and to do all that apertains to this degree". The Degree was the Doctor of Philosophy in Chemistry!! So this post-graduation instructions about what one should do with their degrees appears unfounded, and to day the least, misleading, so I think.

[@mikedziuba8617]

Einstein once said that, "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand." www.goodreads.com/quotes/556030-imagination-is-more-important-than-knowledge-for-knowledge-is-limited Einstein had the same facts as everybody else. But only he used his imagination to come up with the theory of General Relativity. While other people either experimented, or philosophized, or played around with metaphysical questions and answers. The problem with Metaphysics is that it gathers only all there is to know about a given issue, and it doesn't go beyond that. And this is a big problem. Because quite often there is a lot that people don't know about the given issue. So, metaphysics uses logic and reasoning based on incomplete knowledge and facts. And this kind of reasoning can lead to nonsense that provides untestable answers and puts the matter to rest. Because when you can't test an answer to see if it's true or not, then you either believe it, or you don't. Which isn't much different from what happens in religion. Imagination is what you need to come up with testable theories and answers. And once you have something testable, then this is where experimental science comes in to determine whether the answer and the theory is true or not. I think consciousness is a simulation of the external and internal world created by the brain and synchronized with the current input from the senses. This simulation isn't something people have at birth. It's something the brain learns to create and synchronize with the world as a result of continuous experience of the external and internal world through human senses. And the reason why two people can agree that a black object is black is because people are genetically related enough to create the same kind of virtual experience of color. But this isn't always the case. Because some people are color-blind. So, some color-blind people might see red color as grey or yellowish green. enchroma.com/pages/types-of-color-blindness

[@mikeguliano3159]

Theory and Evidence. Both necessary. Impressive analysis.

[@willyh.r.1216]

Humans are continually in the process of understanding it. Since human's lifetime is too short, I don't expect to get a complete theory on it, therefore, I try to answer the question through meditation. Whatever comes out, that is what it is. I don't make any distinction between the methods I use: scientific or metaphysical. Because reality doesn't care about human labels and categories.

[@BALRAMYADAV-pe9uk]

Writ e with attentive consciousness

[@micronda]

Using metaphysical reasoning and imagination, I painted a picture of the moment of the big bang. I saw fields and that they were spherical. I can't prove it. I have not come across the shape of the fields in general physics. If the spherical shape of the fields triggers something in the mind of a scientist working on some fundamental project then metaphysics could possibly have been critical in the advancement of science, could it not?

[@cosmikrelic4815]

If your mind can only come up with a spherical field then it dosn't have enough capacity to imagine anything like a Calabi-Yau manifold or any other multi-dimensional structure, which is more likely for a structure of physics or cosmology.

[@micronda]

@@cosmikrelic4815 That manifold is a more complex shape than a sphere. Wouldn't that mean things were more complex at the big bang then evolved to simpler spherical shapes (e.g. atoms, stars, planets, etc).

[@BALRAMYADAV-pe9uk]

@@cosmikrelic4815 thing s were simpler at start

[@cosmikrelic4815]

@@BALRAMYADAV-pe9uk you know that how?

[@BALRAMYADAV-pe9uk]

@@cosmikrelic4815 I know things

[@RoverT65536]

Is there a part of metaphysics that addresses what humans are naturally doing as the result of eons of evolution on this planet? We seem intent on digesting it.

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

Philosophy interfacing with science: YEAH!😄

[@cmacmenow]

Let's face it ,there are far too many axioms and "assumptions" made in Science and that's a major problem. Philosophy and specifically Metaphysics tries to deal with all these assumptions in a logical manner.

[@pranavkulkarni3058]

please read .."living with himalayan master" "Autobiography of Yogi"

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

yes!

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Maybe just as science is a more modern term for the use of mathematics to describe physical reality; could us a more modern term, something in the line of psychology, for the use of language to explain ultimate reality. Such a better use of language in this effort would itself be an advance in the effectiveness of language to explain ultimate reality.

[@Earthad23]

The question that will never be answered is who are we? Who is the eye “I” that is seeing? Or we at least don’t like the answer.

[@buddybuddy2148]

ILOVE THIS SUBJECT

[@sfinxwojerz]

Fundamental truth come from rm understanding how do you understand ? How can you understand a world if you go beyond what you can explain? Discomfort like with a god saying i don't know makes people look for answers. Intellectual discomfort. And they just don't dig deep enough. More scientific knowledge then philosophical.

[@compellingpoint7802]

I believe that while metaphysics can give us an idea of the general structure of reality, it cannot tell us about the nature or truth value of specific metaphysical claims. Metaphysics is a fascinating field, touching on some of the most fundamental questions that we can ask: what exists? What properties do things have? Do these objects exist independently of us or are they merely figments of our imagination? But it is also a highly speculative field with no clear methodology and there are few good reasons to believe that any metaphysical theory is true. Take the question of whether or not there is an objective reality. This has been a popular topic for metaphysicians to grapple with, but what if we were to ask this same question from the perspective of physics? At face value it would seem that measuring instruments (e.g., thermometers) provide evidence in support of an independent reality since they appear to react independently from us. However, we can give an equally compelling argument for why our measuring instruments are not reliable evidence of reality. For instance, one could argue that thermometers may be accurate when it comes to the temperature in a specific location but do not indicate any actual change in temperature. In other words, the thermometer itself is a product of our minds and may not accurately reflect what's going on in the world. If that's true then we cannot trust it as evidence for an objective reality outside ourselves.

[@chrisparnell2241]

The whetstone isn’t the knife, nor does it cut. But it does help one do the other. There are things and there are actions. Add intentionality and interpretation, and you’ve invited philosophers and metaphysicians, then there goes the neighborhood. Obviously kidding, just leaving a comment to help the video.

[@86645ut]

Because science has no answer regarding consciousness is NO reason to accept any claim regarding such. Metaphysics essentially is an unwarranted activity when the only response should be "We don't know."

[@GreaterDeity]

Under the lens of perception, all reality is virtual. The brain is just a very complex, biochemical machine. The data it processes is a representation of what is real, like a variable representing a real number. There are thousands of constraints in the brain's encoding process. We thought we solved this problem with modern, digital machines and their communication methods. Alas, all we did was add another layer of formal constraints that can process narrow bands of data much quicker, in a large volume. It is a paradox of sorts. We would reasonably posit that reality exists independently whether we as conscious, cognitive beings do or not -- yet this is impossible to know if you are unconscious or don't exist. It's far too easy to accept [one], and only one assumption, and roll with the punches. However, like corruption, assumption assumes absolutely, though they are necessary for progress. We are putting together a puzzle whose pieces are as numerous as all time. The image that emerges is what we want and have allowed ourselves to see. The human condition will allow for no more. So why such a frustrating limitation? We need more time to breach it.

[@peterjones6507]

I would advise anyone new to metaphysics not to begin by assuming that the explanation given by the Upanishads, the Buddha and Lao Tzu is wrong. Once you do this you are lost, as' Closer to the Truth' reveals here. Best to follow Descartes and avoid all assumptions. .

[@PeterStrider]

The achievement of metaphysics is shaping our conceptual and mental tools in order to view reality. Bad metaphysics and there is no progress. Nazism and communism are examples of how bad thinking about fundamental principles lead people astray, regardless of the scientific advancements their societies are capable of. Metaphysics isn't about material progress but moral and intellectual groundedness. You see its importance best when it isn't there or rather when people absorb toxic metaphysics. You can't avoid having a metaphysics so you would do well to study and think about these questions to see which metaphysics you actually have absorbed.

[@peterjones6507]

@@PeterStrider I would say there is only one metaphysics and one either understands it or not. There are many theories, of course, but only one can be correct and all the rest will not make sense. My point was that none of them make sense except the one endorsed by the Perennial philosophy, which is the only one the contributors to this video seem not to have bothered studying. Their incomprehension is therefore explicable. .

[@raycosmic9019]

Every perception is to some extent memory. Every memory is to some extent imagination. Together, they form the narratives of our Life. Change perspective, to change the narrative. Is it a limit or a creative guideline? Since only That which is can either affirm or deny that there either is or is not That which is, there is That which is. Reality = That which is. The abstract called Love can be expressed concretely as a hug, etc. The Word of Truth is ever faithful (loyal, true, isomorphic) to Reality (That which is). What appears as sparate, is in Reality, Continuum of Being. That which is nothing in particular (actual), is by definition everything in general (potential).

[@purezentity6582]

Here is the human problem; we exist with a limited time, and knowledge require more than 200 yrs to accumulate and accelerate. Some of these question, we need to go out of time to find it, example the Future, some of the answer can only answer thee future’s questions, that is a new problem. If you ask a person only have 15 second before death, you will see, there are more things that we did not know. Within that 15 seconds, its reveal the best secret.

[@johnpepin5373]

Science answers How, when, where and what but cannot ever answer... why.

[@Michael-tq6xm]

There is a lot to learn from slime mould when perplexing consciousness, single celled with no brain yet a collection of these cells can solve basic puzzles when food is present in a maze the slime mould will fin the fastest route by each cell working together, basin intelligence with no brain.

[@Zen_Power]

I wonder if we successfully create general AI if it would be able to answer these questions.

[@joanbo15]

Probably not. AI cannot explain what it means to 'be' human, and thus answer the fundamental questions only we can ask.

[@Zen_Power]

Jonathan I was kind of hoping AI could one day answer questions of astro physics, what happened before the Big Bang, why is gravity so weak, what’s insider a black hole rather than existential questions like what is the meaning of life, is love real etc.

[@xspotbox4400]

@@Zen_Power For answer to have a meaning, AI will have to visualize and describe new knowledge to us somehow.

[@sfinxwojerz]

I have a problem with that i mean I'm watching in 2021 and we have advanced dramatically in understanding brain and mind. One of the fastest growing scientific disciplines is neuroscience.

[@BALRAMYADAV-pe9uk]

Comment relevance

[@sfinxwojerz]

@@BALRAMYADAV-pe9uk to much time have passed i have to watch it again. Philosophers are not taking what science has to say sometimes when they make their statements. I think it was comment to some of the things they say in the movie forgot to st a time stamp

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

It would advance philosophy to use language more effectively in explaining ultimate reality as science uses mathematics in describing physical reality. Whether this means better use of logic, psychology, theology or a combination of these.

[@anirudhadhote]

❤ Very good 👍🏼

[@1SpudderR]

Hmm? Innate memory...passed onto/through birth....Memory cramming, experience, skill practice.....not transferred through birth? Cannot get more metaphysical than that! Maybe having the Universe in a Brain or is it The Brain in the Universe. What a grain of sand the Universe is!

[@donespiritu1345]

Bas is right.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Metaphysics / Philosophy could reveal ultimate reality. Science seems to be more deterministic in describing physical reality, yet something seems to be missing in human experience.

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

Some people are not seekers, huh? They may be smart in some things but they are not curious about basic things, like: why am I here? Is there a God? Do I have a purpose?

[@ronpaulrevered]

What's the last thing science hasn't conquered? Economics

[@Ancient_Man_In_Modern_World]

As soon as we understand God; He is no longer God.

[@tedgrant2]

Metaphysics is not exactly a branch of knowledge ! It depends entirely on the imagination of its inventors.

[@donespiritu1345]

I'm paraphrasing "Science cannot do the metaphysics of immaterial (religion) things but I can do the metaphysics of helping us understand the nature of reality...". Wow. Scientists do they PHYSICS from which metaphysicians cherry pick ideas to opine about further ideas that are untestable.

[@kzeich]

I feel like he walks from Caltech to Princeton

[@robertjkuklajr3175]

Does anything non-physical exist? Yes, it's the only thing that exists!

[@casl7266]

Yes. It's a damn fool question.

[@ThatisnotHair]

14:00

[@misanthrope3190]

Illusions of Reason

[@saammahakala]

Yes! If you're an individual with experience and awareness enough., like a philosophical prodigy. Someone who's never given up in trying to understand itself no matter how many lives that consciousness/character inhabits. A scientist's mindset cannot cope with "spiritual" experiences without completely mucking it up. They have no point of reference to show science is a derivative of this "spiritual" process. Is not philosophy the mother/father of science and religion? Also philosophy existed way longer before the Greek culture came into being.., again., this time around. You "learned professionals"* sure are a real kick to the nards of true philosophers. (i.e. those with spiritual** insights) * exception made for Daniel Dennett ** the nature of consciousness itself sans the ineptness of religion and science

[@buddybuddy2148]

IS THE BEST,N LOVELY TO LEARN.

[@GroovismOrg]

The only reality is The One! Beyond philosophy & physics of any kind, The One can Be felt by all humans. When we re all One we will Create the "Other world " we've all imagined!!!

[@xspotbox4400]

What happens with personal space, can we have some intimate privacy here and not take everything so serious all the time? I don't want one and world should not be full of people, let's get in space first and multiply as much as anybody wants when we will be able to move around in infinite universe, full of endless resources, priceless treasures and untold wonders.

[@psterud]

Dennett is wrong as usual. Philosophy did not start with Aristotle. Philosophy started when the first proto-humans, and even before that, started wondering about the nature of the universe by looking at, and wondering at, the nature around them, the fields and forests and animals and water and ice and lightning and stars, the light of day and darkness of night, the sun and the moon, about the purpose of being here in the first place and what it all means, and the cosmologies they created to explain it.

[@erentxunlopez6281]

Every thing it is ok except the violin sound at the beginning of the episode.

[@thasukisonyahsone1323]

Well... We all know now how satan got kicked out of heaven.... Smh. Damn.

[@xspotbox4400]

I'm a meta physicist and an alchemist, and I'm proud on it. Think i've seen a gorilla somewhere in this video.

[@pierrestober3423]

"Alchemist" lol. I'm a wizard. Expelliarmus !

[@-o-light8863]

Scientists just want the easy stuff that's why they deny metaphysics

[@thasukisonyahsone1323]

No. Wait... Not lunch. But perhaps...Somebody else's snack. When picked out the pack. Lmbo

[@xspotbox4400]

There are no laws of nature, only principles and axioms.

[@joshheter1517]

What’s the difference between a law, principle, and axiom?

[@xspotbox4400]

@@joshheter1517 A law is not just a good idea.

[@joshheter1517]

Xspot box ... *blank stare

[@drspastic]

i am a doctor of metaphysics and i welcome your questions

[@AbdeliSabrinel]

my question is urgent it for my tomorrow assignment . can reality be a question of metaphysics ??

[@plnthn]

It's simple...I think......no brain....no consciousness.....no consciousness.....means there's no brain......but the problem is....how in the hell the brain creates consciousness?......at this point we have no answers......hmmmm......please find the answer scientists....because if you don't.....then we will never end this......

[@Dman9fp]

The brain is multiple distinct entities. At Least Have 1) the system controlling heart rate, etc. bodily stuff 2)the unconscious/ subconscious that largely reacts to things/ makes judgements/ creates feelings 3)the higher order rational / decision making mind and 4) whatever creates consciousness. Of course the mind tricks itself thinking things like we are distinct from the environment, that most people think emotions either come out of nowhere or they are just automatic or we decide them somehow (of course largely out of our control/ arguably no true free will)... But yes, there is No mind / spirit divide. The brain (& arguably body maybe to some degree) creates our awarenesses and consciousness

[@plnthn]

@@Dman9fp I am incline to think that consciousness derived from the physical matter called the brain rather than anything else but how can prove that ? Sadly at this point I have no definitive answer as to how.

[@thasukisonyahsone1323]

Yes it does equate to reality. As somebody else's lunch. When taken out of the box. Lmbo.

[@thasukisonyahsone1323]

Welp. Hey .... Cestlavie.

[@psterud]

Just like everything else, metaphysics is full and empty at the same time.

[@GroovismOrg]

Consciousness exists to allow creativity. Creativity allows instincts to exasperate humanity! Instincts ability is now made possible by technology's globally enlightening evolution! The first step of this process of evolution, has been studied & is know what it is human nee to do: Drop the borders & celebrate our commonalities!! Releasing our material realities to the entrainment of a virtual mob, will Be epiphanous!!

[@theronmisha4820]

if you're ever thirsty again, here's some questions to ask: 1.who is thirsty 2. who is he who knows he is thirsty 3. what is the means to quench the thirst cause at any rate there's no point in asking why there's thirst... its simple... ITS HOT AND DRY OUT THERE!

[@williammabon6430]

God has given us a gift. Let us share our present with the world. God do exist and the proof is in mathematics. Here is that proof. Infinity = 1/x(delta) + 1. This equation says a number, or any number is a set in space that change with space. It reveals how one number is different from any other number. In Number Theory this equation delineates the process as to how we count or measure anything using numbers. In physics this equation reads: Gravity is matter changing with space. It combines Relativity/fractured space with Quantum mechanics/spatial expansion and information/complete symmetry of a space. How dose God fit into this equation? This equation is God's mathematical name. God's name in this equation reads: God's Mind Is Man Changed With God. Breakdown: God's mind is infinite. In math this measure out as the set of infinity In math (1/x) represents a fraction of a whole. Any child is a fraction of a parent and man according to the Bible is God's child. Therefore, man is a fraction of God Change in math is represented by the Greek letter (delta) and it denotes a difference of some kind. Plus (+) in math means to combine or add something with something. There is only one God. In math the number 1 means something, or someone is complete and individual from all the rest. Spelled out: God's Mind (Infinity) is (=) Man (1/x) Changed (delta) With (+) God (1). Scientific Method Step 1 Observation: Math can deliver unbreakable truths such as 2+2 will always = 4 Step 2 Question: Do math and Divinity share a common truth? Step 3 Hypothesis: If God exist, He should be found in the house of mathematics. Step 4 Prediction: God's Mind Is Man Change With God is an equation Step 5 Test: Any number (Infinity) is (=) a set in space (1/x) that change (x^2) with (+) space (1)) Note: "X" describes any set, (1) describes any kind of space physical or otherwise This equation tells us why 2 feet is not the same as 2 inches. Both distances are measured out as 2 units of space but there is a change or difference between both units. They are each sets in a space of distance but they represent changes in their measurement of distance. Step 6 Iterate: New look at what makes up reality. Reality consists of 3 domains of space. a. Fractured space or matter b. spatial expansion or energy c. Complete or unbroken space Step 7 Conclusion: We now know Infinity is real therefore the value in enumeration demand God exists otherwise the domain for enumeration would be incomplete. We know the domain for enumeration is complete because we can count. God must be able to count too all the way to Infinity because His mathematical name tells us what is any number. I wrote a research doc looking deeper into this matter. Anyone who wants a free copy can contact me at: [e-mail] God's Mind Is Man Changed With God

[@eagledon7199]

Save your questions, on any subject, when you meet the Creator of all - God!

[@brothercaleb]

Which god… Zeus, khrishna, Osiris, Zoroastra?

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

hahaha. we can meet Him/Her/It in meditation. Answers are always being given to us when we quiet the mind.!

[@eagledon7199]

@@metaphysicswithariyana2794 ...a quiet mind is likened to leaving your window open-allowing garbage to enter.

[@metaphysicswithariyana2794]

@@brothercaleb what about God being the Universal Life Source, Intelligence Source, Creativity Source, Source of Spiritual Love, Wisdom, etc.?