Does Nokia 808 PureView Camera Still Compete Against Nokia X30?!

[@yash_kambli]

One cannot denied that images came out from lumia 808 are still look far more natural as it don't do over sharpening, over saturation and AI wasn't even existed back then. So basically it's very honest in doing its job.

[@thomasanders5290]

Lumia 808?

[@benjaminlopez7272]

De lumia no tiene nada, aguante symbian!

[@Sam-K]

I wouldn't call underexposed images "natural."

[@patrese993]

I still miss Symbian.... it had so many features and possibilities.... Android copied a lot of them, and in the end of course, Apple did as well.... Does anyone remember using the always on display from Nokia Beta Labs or the later called action bar?

[@diy-fun509]

My nokia c7 had ois, always on display, AMOLED display. Back in 2012

[@HReviewsPH]

@@diy-fun509 nokia c7 dont have ois

[@gilesmoulden]

Yes, and you could even turn your own photo into an always on image. Brilliant stuff.

[@diy-fun509]

@@HReviewsPH yes you are right.

[@yohaneschristianp]

I mean why don't Symbian Belle just use Meego UI as its UI instead, right? Symbian kernel itself isn't the problem, it's also the insistence of using ARM11 ever since Nokia N8 that made its downfall. Nokia N900 was a pretty good concept device, had they enlarge its coverage and fix some of its cons, it'll be the next communicator for all. TI OMAP 3 for all by 2009-2010, even for Symbian will be a gamer changer back then. Unfortunately, they don't. No, Symbian is laggy even @ Nokia E6 Symbian Belle.

[@deadpool6072]

The natural bokeh on the 808 is still impressive even in todays standard. The dynamic range is a little bit limited but at least it is natural looking. Makes me wonder how much that same 808 sensor can benefit the modern image algorithm and computational photography. It would blow competition away for sure.

[@blackhawk69100]

I relented and contacted Nokia about the issues I was having with my X30. I'm glad I did. They sent me a replacement that worked fully. No stiff buttons, fully working software especially with streaming, finger print sensor software fully working and the speaker isn't as bad as the first unit. It's a far far better experience. I've really enjoyed taking pictures on hikes and runs. Works perfectly with my polar watch. I must have got a Friday afternoon unit first time around. For the money I think the camera is absolutely fantastic. I've had nothing but good results. My only gripe is the lack of 4k. Great comparison and video 🙂

[@erase9017]

the lack of 4k in 2022 is unacceptable,get a poco f3, you'll never look back i promise you

[@rrageneral1499]

@@erase9017 F3 and F4 are by far the best budget devices atm. Only Pixel 6a is comparable but the lack of HRR is jarring.

[@erase9017]

@@rrageneral1499 yeah true but the photo quality might be worth the sacrifice,if someone has never been exposed to high refresh rate

[@blackhawk69100]

@@rrageneral1499 it depends what you put value in. I personally think it's not the end of the world about the 4k but obviously would have been preferred. The value in a Nokia phone is in the whole offering from security updates, os updates, warranty, actual online live support chat, Android one and a ever expansive eco system of devices from earbuds to laptops, tablets ect ect. Unfortunately with most Chinese budget or midrange brands, they don't have the best record with security or os updates. And some offer little to no support. And the only warranty you get is your statutory right which is dependent on a 3rd party retailer if not bought direct. And I can say this with first hand confidence as oppo is terrible like this. As I explained above, Nokia had my phone replaced in less them 48hrs. It's about much more then raw specs.

[@erase9017]

@@blackhawk69100 xiaomi offers at least 2 years of software support and 3 years of security updates on its midrangers,if you really need insane software support on a midranger check out the a52 or a53 from samsung or the pixel 6a, you'll get much more value on any of these phones than the x30

[@scarfaceReaper]

Been a Nokia fan from day one and still is I'm not surprised the 808 Pureview is keeping up on the modern budget and midrange smartphones hack it's natural capture is phenomenal over the 10 years not much has changed don't get the wrong idea today's smartphones is really good adding new features and stuff but if you ask a normal consumer they'll say literally nothing has changed besides the look and feel of the phone and a bit performance but maybe it's just me but really tho just look what the 808 Pureview do you really wouldn't say it's a 10 year old phone without looking at it

[@damienvancoke]

Great video Abdulla, brings back memories, I loved my 808 Pureview.

[@WinstoneSmith]

Colors and white balance so delightfully natural! Grass that is green instead of black. White surfaces white, not yellow. And faces where sharpening won't make you look a piece of cartoon (every speckle magnified as well). Adding some saturation, warm tones and sharpening, and It'll look better, sure, but current trends are way overboard imho. Its something you don't really notice, how false, unreal, even absurd it is until you have a Nokia 808 to compare with. And that's what's really worrying: there's very little variety in this regard, no matter how congested and supposedly diverse the market is.

[@twinfolktech]

Outstanding video, my friend. I always love how you have such detailed, earnest thoughts to share on these devices. Your content is a breath of fresh air amongst a deluge of clickbait and hot takes. Thank you for all that you do 🙏🏾

[@ggdfggdfgdffgfddg34]

Can you compare how Raw photos stretch in Nokia 9 and iPhone 14? Underexpose and try to stretch the shadows of who has more?

[@koushik6762]

In India we use Nokia X series and Nokia G series so much because both are wonderful

[@rael9454]

I've had the Nokia X30 for a week, I'm really enjoying it, it feels premium in my hands and that's very positive, I confess that without the Zeiss logo it makes me a little strange because I have the Nokia 8.3 and the XR20, in general it was a good evolution of HMD and this shows that if it focuses on a few devices it can deliver something premium, logically for anyone who is a fan of the Nokia brand, they always expect something more or something surprising and different, but in general I am enjoying the Nokia X30 a lot now all that remains is to launch a top premium device and urgently improve logistics for faster distribution in the markets.

[@grabthecat]

Watching again what kind of phone was 808 is hard to understand why Nokia strategy was so wrong from 2010. Maybe this will be covered in a separate video

[@victorkreig6089]

Apple forced everyone to move in the opposite direction of that kind of innovation

[@grabthecat]

@@victorkreig6089 i never saw the innovation for the first 4-5 apple phones, only marketing.

[@smansab59]

I love how the photos from the 808PV have a deep, true-to-life personality to them; like these shots at 4:21, 4:26, and especially the 4:50 (just look at that rear glass, and those rims!). 👑❤️‍🔥

[@trollpolice3739]

The Nokia x30 is good but the 808 really gives off that early 2010s vibe when taking photos. It's like a memory rather than a photo

[@randyvalencia1631]

Wow! The nokia 808 can almost keep up! Only down in low light the 808

[@technicaltacticts4380]

Bro, I love the images of 808. It’s very natural.

[@TheCozzz]

When using my 808 in cafe for web browsing, i so often got negative reaction from people, thinking i was take photos of them with a dedicatd point and shoot! Always had to explain, it was actually a phone. Photos were always great though...miss using that one and symbian.

[@RennieAsh]

4:26 the problem with modern phone processing. Overdefine edges, too much texture increase. It just look crunchy. 4:31 The Nokia struggles with stuff like this. And afaik you cannot shoot raw so as good as the jpg is, HDR is single shot is lacking. You can do exposure stack shots in the camera app and combine it later on a PC

[@cruslanoyuntutkunu4541]

nokia 808 has one of best cameras ever made in a phone

[@Emppu_T.]

The 808s photos have a certain vibe i really like. I really like mine. I also got a white one back then.

[@Vantud391]

808 still offers some impressive photos. I like X30 design, it look both simple and premium. Can you share the music at the photo comparision segment?

[@marclordpieterson4459]

Can u compare it to the 950XL?

[@dericksilva281]

I won't deny that image stabilization is a necessity. But, except for the nowadays light sensor programmed to code more variations of light (HDR more than 800 lumens) The original stands still in it's innovations, like nowadays we don't get the luxury of seeing.

[@Agumon5]

Even though I really don't like the X30 and I was highly disappointed by Nokia's latest round of phones and their tend to follow the crowd with omitting key features in that devices, I love watching videos like this from you. They don't only apply to Nokia devices, but they really make us think about how certain aspects of our phones have changed over time. They also make us question what is a real advancement and what is just marketing. Sometimes I wonder if I could take equally good photos with my lgv30 from 2017 vs my Nokia 8.3 ... Under the right circumstances I think the photos would come out pretty good with either device.

[@paulr9790]

I'm from a parallel timeline...in March 2022 Nokia introduced the X22 smartphone with Android 13 Oulanka (in honor of a national park in Finland). Nokia has 25% of the smartphone market, Samsung 10%, Apple 60%.

[@wakandaforever4923]

That is the reason why I will keep my Nokia 808. Can you please do a camera comparison of Nokia X20 and Nokia X30?

[@bojojas1918]

Its a great video,i hope you can make a video,to compare the camera capability of the lumia 950 XL ,daylight and night shoot with the new Nokia X30 5G

[@venzislavvladimirov3046]

My second phone is Nokia 808 pureview, still very close to my Sony rx100, in indoors even close to DSLR quality

[@SenvyzP]

The BEAUTY and design of pureview wow... Id still love to have it ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@RetroRRR]

808 excellent hardware and the new one is excellent software..digital camera vs smartphone camera..

[@mansur2793]

Sir please make a video on Nokia x30 vs Nokia xr21

[@fireoil]

The thing is the Pureview format is the best. Small one hand easy and monster sensor still unbeaten in ratio/sensor ratio

[@mathew1853]

Hello there iusing Nokia g 10 problem is to disconnect WiFi haw to fix that problem.thang u

[@KT43124]

Nokia was the only one who introduced every new innovation in smartphone... And now everybody is following them. But Nokia itself lost.

[@RameshK-vp5yn]

I don't understand one-thing(not related with video) my Nokia 5.3 didn't get it's Android 12 update

[@dujankees]

at 4:50 X30 looks digitally enhanced, noticeable jagged edges if only 808 could capture RAW, daytime HDR scenes would be perfect

[@MartyJones]

Would you recommend the x30? I currently use the sirocco and I’m thinking it’s time to upgrade

[@nikytamayo]

1/1.3" sensors are making their way into midrangers, and sensors n bigger than b over 1/1.2" are becoming more common. Perhaps the most apt comparison at this point would be last year's Sony Xperia Pro I or the Xiaomi MI 12S Ultra, which push the boundaries of sensor size. Or even the Edge 30 Ultra, with the 1/1.22" 200MP.

[@Alfadrottning86]

When it comes to the label "pureview" with Nokia, i rathe associate revolutionary features; not necessarily successful ones though. While yes - originally (i think) it was merely the technology of pixel-binning .. those phones with the label pureview were special, from the rest of the "common" phones. The 808 is basically a camera with a phone - much like the Galaxy Camera (both came out in 2012) - and both are kind of a flop, treasured only by a handful of people. The next Pureview may have been the Lumia 1020? .. similar to the 808 - kind of a camera with a phone, but a more solid phone with flagship specs ... at least when compared to the Lumia line (it was - after all, the release of the iPhone 5 as well as the Note 3 etc. ) The last (in my opinion) Pureview phone was the Nokia 9 - with its penta-camera setup. Did it fulfil expectations? no .. i think not. The idea was great .. but the technology was not. Todays phones capture more light in a single larger sensor than the Nokia 9 does with its 5 sensors. (also Nokia refused to update it .. ) I cannot really consider any of the X or G line phones a "Pureview" model. They are - mundane. Not at all revolutionary. When it comes to Pureview, i would much rather give that label to the Sony Xperia pro-1 with its 1" large photosensor .. or even the Xiaomi 12 (although none of those domestic Chinese brands have shone brightly in terms of Photoquality .. rather only with high end stats) As for a true Nokia Pureview - i would expect something extra ordinary .. then again .. none of them have been financial successes (except maybe the 1020) - so i doubt that Nokia is keen on developing and releasing a real Pureview again.

[@DOT_ZER_O]

The 808 then should be the best camera phone. The old Nokia mobile team were highly brilliant. The 808's camera still holds up today perfectly fine. Throw in recent software on the 808 and that camera would compete with the Google pixel 7

[@nislamonly]

Is it currently available to buy anywhere?

[@amjithvazhattu7781]

Can you do a detailed review of nokia x20 with official Android 13 released 2 days back ?

[@AbdullaZaki]

my X20 hasn't received it yet

[@tintujoseph3957]

Can we watch 4k video in 4k resolution in nokia x30 5g

[@muzinka2c987]

Please compare the camera interface and samples with pixel devic3

[@goddiekaundama4550]

How can i buy this phone

[@sahidalombarbhuiya6199]

Please give me Nokia g21 gcam link

[@arorakirti]

Please compare it with Nokia Lumia 1020 & Lumia 950 XL

[@alihejazi2060]

Still have my Nokia 808, but the battery is dead... I have a video shot on the 808 in my channel

[@parashuramnbannibagi]

808 Nokia still stands up against new devices. Now Nokia doesn't come with ziess.

[@nislamonly]

Am I buying Nokia 808 pure view??

[@dianzafran4556]

i love symbian and i hope symbian come back, go nokia go go go

[@omarel-maghrabii4998]

Which smartphone do you use?

[@edwardjohn7644]

HELLO Abdul, I've tried sending you a mail....through the email on your KZbin, no reply yet? Please i really want to know how one can get the Nokia 8210 4g you did the review recently. I really love the phone.

[@rubentan4409]

Ayph, there goes the cat....! 🤭😊😊

[@odionlampon8360]

Normally, the 808 should be compared to a proper modern day flagship, carrying a 1-inch sensor, like the X90 pro plus, rather than a medium -end device

[@Unan1mouz]

Dynamic range has definitely gone a long way in modern smartphones...

[@nikhilpaleti3872]

The fact is the X30 likely is worse in daylight. The only differences are OIS/HDR. I can only imagine what it would've done with those in hand

[@victorkreig6089]

I wouldnt exactly say the technology has made a lot of strides it's made a LOT of ways to cheat to pretend camera phones are good and hoping AI can fill in all the gaps One reason I love the 808 so much is because there are no gimmics with it, what you get from it is a pure lens and censor experience If you tinkered around with the insides to make it work with modern algorithms and such it would blow every phone currently on the market out of the water Hell my 11 year old 7D still trades blows with top of the line cameras these days in daylight scenarios

[@EBAmbience]

Modern edge mode algorithm makes it look unnatural

[@luiztavaresdelucena5148]

Nokia X30 would be my choice.

[@kulotnakilay1230]

Review i waiting

[@spdm7909]

808 is killing

[@janjamesramos247]

I don't think the old 808 is more natural. Colors are muted and dull. I don't think that's what we call "natural".

[@jakegyllenhaal9946]

Nokia x30 very nice smartphone.

[@dimitrischristou]

(The video starts at 4:14)

[@akashvt7951]

X30 looks superior but 808 looks artistic!

[@محمودالعلمي-ذ2ش]

after 9 years my nokia 808 was die yesterday 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@sultanabran1]

most of the images that looked better on the x30 was because it was simply brighter. it's purely software.

[@SenvyzP]

But nokia 808 can even capture the speed pf fab blade lol..

[@mrpink330]

If you know how to use it N808 is still the best. Images looks like taken with analog camera. I can not find better quality. There is no HDR but who needs HDR? But there are sharpness, saturation, and contrast sliders so you can create, control almost any kind of situation. 8mp images looks better than any today's flagship. Yes it has some limitations but I never missed any action.Dedicated camera button, xenon flash that freeze any action. Square sensor that records FHD video horizontaly independent of how you hold the camera. Mechanical shutter,ND filter.who needs more. Mine is stile close to me. I switched to Lumia 950XL great Raw's but horrible jpgs, far behind of N808. Then Huawei p30pro-huge disappointment. Shutter lag in pro mode etc. Absolutely useless for action, ugly artificial overprocessd images. Now S23U. Expert RAW is kind of joke.Samsung and other companies treats customers like stupid, blind as...les.Sometime cheap phones takes better images than so called flagships. Still Nokia, Xiaomi. Probably the only choice for photography is Sony 1V but I don't like screen proportions. Did I mentioned about video of Nokia 808? I saw few videos a week ago.Looks like taken with pro camera. Detail on shadows and light. Beautiful grain. My settings EV -0.3, contrast and saturation -1 if I remember and max sharpness because it looks fine. No stairs or artifacts. Just great . I omitted Lumia1020 because of physically smaller sensor oversaturated images and smaller than N808 preview file 8mp of N808 vs 5 of 1020. Same with video quality. With extended image control you can get even cinematic like flat profile with contrast, saturation and sharpness menu.

[@venturen21]

Nokia is exceptional

[@nicksartcafe]

Nokia X30 5g vs 8.3 5g

[@AktaHasutan1948]

can nokia phone camera do astrophotography?

[@AbdullaZaki]

You can but not automatically.

[@jackskellington9570]

It's so sad how little improvements have come. It's just disgusting. And not even just the camera but overall. Phones used to be advancing but now are just greed machines

[@ericr5783]

Old nokia phone still unbeatable. New nokia now are ketchup the losing hardware and software. Last was sold to microsoft 😐 which we are sad to hear. Now im switching to sony xperia 1 iv 😅

[@ahmedsalem4470]

Is Nokia X200 ultra real?

[@ZaryanUrRehman]

fake

[@OrangeFlame1]

more like does the X30 hold up against the 808

[@augustinospanayi2446]

hahaha omg the 808 is so so small

[@samailhaque7237]

AJaj

[@RobloxEditzz55]

i am sarahs friend @TheMrNokio

[@peterb3832]

Amusing👑! Do not waste your time > "PromoSM" !