Does Once Human Have A BIG Problem?!

Does Once Human have a BIG problem for launch? Here are my thoughts. I'd love to hear what you think in the comments!
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Does Once Human Have A BIG Problem? by MattyGorm
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[@MattyGorm]

Join the official Once Human Discord! discord.gg/H6jEFcVG Am I crazy for having these concerns or do you think they're fair? Would love to know your thoughts! Join our Discord community: discord.gg/GGN4tSa UPDATE: The point of this video isn't to say we don't have answers to these questions already, it's to ask: "Why are these answers so hard to find?" - I understand that a lot of the questions in this video have been answered in interviews and devblogs over the last year or so, but I would like to see an official FAQ page answering these questions so that new players don't need to dig for the information. Something as simple as the cost of the game should be easily found on their website and channels, so I hope they update that!

[@MrCrilliver]

Unless there is dedicated / private servers, the 6 week wipe will be a deal breaker for me. I'm sure I'll play through it once but when that first wipe hits I'm out.

[@MrKrossFaith]

yeah might be same for me, so nothing from previous season? not even the cosmetics?

[@TheSkiPP3R92]

@@MrKrossFaith pretty much everything carrys over the a new season u can look it up pretty fast. You can even save ur House as a blueprint and reuse it next season

[@Gauban83]

I think the redoing everything each season will kill most of the player count, people in D4 hated having to do all the unlocking again so they changed that fast to keep the players.

[@MrKrossFaith]

@@TheSkiPP3R92 only the blueprints and no gear and items? It seems a waste of time playing all over again

[@tyrelllovewine2038]

@@Gauban83it won’t kill the game. A lot of survival games do it. Rust, ark, Conan. Yall must be new to the genre or something. The grind in this game isn’t even a real grind so you’re not redoing much.

[@1_Man_Media]

I was pumped for this game until I saw it was made by net ease and has an ios (mobile game) versions. This scares the crap out of me that it will be Diablo immortal with guns where it is all about the $$$$. I was hyped for this when I saw it at first but since learning about the company I am scared for the monetization.

[@adamm2091]

The NA sales director has said they have, quote "no plans for P2W, only cosmetics and maybe a battlepass. If Net Ease want P2W they have to get rid of all of us or kill us" which is pretty metal.

[@1_Man_Media]

@@adamm2091 I hope that is true, cause the game looks great. I also have a few friends that put massive hours into the beta and loved it. My only concern is the monetization, I was hopping for a nice b2p but well have to wait and see.

[@deerhandle]

Man netease games aren't that much p2w tho

[@couchbuddies1055]

​@@adamm2091 the fact that starry studio is a sub team of netease. Yeh the getting rid part won't be difficult at all.

[@glaander2297]

only thing i want they to change is > Profanity Filter on/off < so annoying when you try to type in chat and they blocks and then whole chat window bugged.

[@cammurray255]

One thing for endgame I think they should heavily consider is unique, dynamic PVP events. When it comes to endgame it's only ever really people who engage in PVP that it affects the most, and taking some inspiration from games like DayZ and Rust with their dynamic events like heli crashes, KOTH etc would be a good way to keep PVP flowing. Have rosetta convoys roam parts of the map that are in perma PVP areas, or have a resource plane crash at random parts of the map that people, groups and clans can fight over. It doesn't matter what you do, not having dynamic ways for endgame players to do things is just going to kill the game every 2 weeks after wipe until the next wipe cycle. And simply adding in a few new quests isn't going to cut it as teams will just speedrun through those quests and be back where they started, bored.

[@jsullivan649]

As someone who played all beta’s to-date… All player power being locked to gambling mechanics is just stupid. They were told now through 3 beta’s (since 1 was open grinding), that the machine needs to go. There is only so much you can do until you hit the weekly wall, and just stop signing in, because you’re not allowed to play how you want and are the mercy of a stupid slot machine.

[@Scarcheeze]

I hope they make a separate non-wipe server and wipe server.

[@circaen]

Game looks really cool. Reminds me a little of Secret World in that it has a unique sci fi/horror feel. I loved that game back in the day. Hope they figure out how to make money without ruining the experience.

[@tdunk3]

I loved Secret World! Miss that game so much..

[@theloner6063]

Undawn

[@BobJones-cd9mt]

SWL player here...not for too much longer. Once human reminds me the most of undawn.

[@veladarney]

As someone who's been playing in CBT3 and the demo - fair assessment of the current situation and concerns. I do agree with you on everything you said in the video.

[@svimle511]

Oh boy, I sure hope they don't include the predatory practice from literally Every game SCAMEASE has their grubby, greedy fingers in.

[@user-sy1tx1yq9p]

i think the big problem is restarting players lvl to lvl1 after every season

[@malguskerensky]

As someone just jumping into the game, I think my only real concern would be wipes. As someone that would focus on PvE side of things, I don't see the point of wiping those world as it really would not have any impact except tiring out non PvP players. I may of mis understood the wipe plans and be happy to be corrected.

[@MattyGorm]

I'm working on a video that will talk about how wipes work! It definitely can be a little confusing so hopefully I can clear things up!

[@xClyptox]

All people can do is wait. Whining about seasons before you actually see it and what they planned for it seems silly. Look at this game, theyre obviously creative enough to figure something out. As for the actual map size, I strongly disagree. I think we seen the map for what it is in CBT, I would love to be wrong and see more but I think thats the reason they limited the steam demo. They dont want people maxing out then doing it again upon release killing pop even quicker. I think the real factor will be the shop - How predatory it is will ultimately be the deciding factor for many.

[@BxPanda7]

Creative ? I suppose you mean the art team ? Because the gameplay side of things is about as generic as it gets.

[@xClyptox]

Yea, I really enjoy the art. They could probably get away with it if the art style is there.

[@BxPanda7]

@@xClyptox yeah the game looks really cool, it's just a shame it's so easy and repetitive, it could have easily been a masterpiece if they didn't follow the "mmorpg" recipe and actually made a real mmo/survival mix, but I guess that would have required too much effort to pull off 😅

[@xClyptox]

It was harder in CBT2 but people complained so things got changed. Afterwards - it seems like its slipping more towards a mobile type game and it really sucks. I dont have anything else to play atm and its F2P so I wont be out any money playing it. If its crap, cool - no money lost. Just a shame that they didnt build upon what they had, it could of been THE game. Again tho, its fate rests on how tricky they want to be to get into the wallets of the consumer and what content they plan for seasons.

[@BxPanda7]

@@xClyptox I'm in the exact same boat, nothing to play, I hope to get at least 2-3 months out of this game, wait and see

[@kamruzzamanuzzal3764]

Do you think they gonna update the diff between the PVP and PVE server's wiki page on their site? Cause based on that article, the PVP server will be server-wide pvp, a chaos player can attack anyone of level 10 and above they want. and also there is a possibility of having trolls issues in teams, where suddenly one player in team turns into a chaos player and then automatically leaves the team and then team kills their teammates during an important mission. it is possible.

[@uglyfoox8964]

That’s what they need to address. I was kinda bummed out when the pvp server was just like the pve.

[@kamruzzamanuzzal3764]

@@uglyfoox8964 i got some confirmation here: "PVE and PVP servers are exactly the same with opt-in PVP, but PVP servers have PVP zones that you see when you open the map (when you enter you get automatically flagged for PVP), PVP events like purifying echo stones (that flags you automatically for PVP and anyone can attack you), cargo event and gvsg. As for PVE server, it has PVE events like Prime Wars which is a world boss event. It also has the same cargo event that forces you to flag for PVP, but it is optional and you dont have to do it unless you want the currency to buy stuff like acid from the jellyfish woman." this is direct copy paste of their text.

[@HolySpacePapa]

I believe the Demo was a modified version of an early CBT3 build. I know at least the Z-C to Space-C change to fly mode was made during CBT3 but was not present in the demo.

[@MattyGorm]

Ah good catch!

[@Sambei_Gaming]

fly mode did work in demo its the @ key that makes it work

[@HolySpacePapa]

@@Sambei_Gaming It always worked, just that in the demo and at the beginning of CBT3, you adjusted the height by pressing Z (up) or C (down). I hated this because I am used to Space making you go up. Well, sometime during CBT3, they updated it to Space (up) or C (down).

[@t3chfx13]

Eternaland doesn't do anything to address the issues players have with seasonal wipes which is players having to start over every few months. There is nothing good feeling about losing your hard earned progress and dozens if not hundreds of hours of work. Like I get it that its hard to add content regularly to keep players engaged but wiping each seasons is just going to drive players away longterm.

[@MattyGorm]

The only things that are wiped are your level, energy links, map progress, and seasonal goal progress. Everything else can be transferred to the next season (more details on my latest video).

[@mandarinduck]

I don't get it, I thought it was a survival crafting game like Rust? It's not hard to make your own fun in those, why does this have some kind of gacha system?

[@throow]

I am sad, haven't been looking forward to a game release in years. Even thought I have played beta and demo, I just found out a few days ago about the wipe 😞

[@VinnyVinceViper]

I have no clue about programming, bug fixing and such (I can build a PC but I'm useless when it comes to the rest) So is it possible that they have a version (let's say the version they will use at release) and are fixing it all on that one while letting us play the Beta and Demo to find other issues but without fixing/debugging on said Beta/Demo?

[@veladarney]

Yup, totally possible that they just gave us a snippet of an earlier build that's running smoothly enough for the demo and are working on bugfixing in the background, and that they'll roll out a ton of changes and bugfixes upon release.

[@WhatAboutRC]

100% pretty sure this is what happen. They made the demo out of an old build whiule they are working on current build for release.

[@xXNATHANUSMAXIMUSXx]

EDIT - GAME HAS PAY TO WIN ELEMENTS AFTER ALL. I WAS WRONG. This was a very disingenuous video which is even worse when you realise someone in the CC program made it. Wow. I'm gonna try to correct your points as best I can. I don't expect you to read this comment in full anyway as people that like to generate views from fear mongering and misinformation don't like to be proven wrong but I hope a viewer might read it to get a better understanding of the game than you provided. Regarding the map. You are correct that when the full map is released we should expect new interesting stuff. However, people are complaining that the map is too small because they assume the map in demo is the map we get at launch. What you fail to mention is that we are getting the full map on release. In the newest trailer you can see areas in the video, like the snow area, that were not accessible in the betas or demo. This implies we are getting the full map on launch. Regarding seasons. Yes, wipes are a terrible mechanic in MMOs but I hope they have something really interesting planned to make it a fun mechanic rather than a bad one. However, people using the Eternaland argument are being dumb. People that play MMOs tend to enjoy the shared open world. Seeing other players running around, seeing other players bases. Eternaland is like a private Minecraft server, it's not an MMO so saying that it makes up for the gap between seasons is a very bad argument to make. Having a search feature for custom worlds and stuff just turns the game into Roblox, really bad argument. Regarding the bugs. You are again correct in your statement that every game ever created in existence has bugs, that is very fair. However, what you don't mention is the build we are using in the demo is an early CBT 3 build. Gingerbread House deviant was removed from PvE servers in CBT 3 but it's back on PvE in demo because the demo is an early CBT 3 build. This means the bugs we are dealing with, some were already patched during CBT 3 and the rest are likely already fixed or being fixed for the full release build. Now the important stuff, your disingenuous ''concerns''. As someone that's in the CC program, you should already be fully aware of everything you have concerns about. I am not in the CC program and I know the answers to literally all your ''concerns'' because the information is there, you just need to look for it for more than 10 seconds. Regarding the IAP test. Yes, people get to keep their progress but who cares? For starters, it's PvE servers only that get it, so having a head start on a PvE server means NOTHING. Also, with the way Phases work, the early testers will be locked in Phase 1 for the IAP test and when the game fully releases, we will remain in Phase 1 for an additional 1 or 2 weeks. So while we may be level 50, our gear is capped at T3 which normal launch players can achieve in a single day of playing. Not a big deal, get over it. Regarding the store being tied to progress. This is not the case. We already know this is not the case for multiple reasons. A - Devs have stated time and time and time again that the ONLY things you can buy, are cosmetic in nature. B - The Chinese version of the game had the ingame shop active. You can see it in videos on Billibilli and KZbin. The shop has NOTHING that helps you progress through the game. C - Battle Passes level up as you play so the only potential argument regarding progress can be tied to that. The Battle Pass however, has no progress items tied to it either. Regarding NetEase. You say they have a bad track record with P2W but then fail to produce any examples or evidence of them having a bad track record. Further fuelling the fire of P2W concerns with 0 evidence. You then show an example of a mobile game with ''predatory practices'' that Netease didn't even make so is completely irrelevant to the argument at hand. Regarding P2W in general. The devs stated countless times it won't be P2W and during SGF explicitly stated, yet again ''Pay to Win has NO place in Once Human''. They also stated previously that they want to win Game of the Year and that they know they won't be eligible for the award if the game has P2W mechanics. Telling your viewers you can't find that confirmation anywhere officially is a blatant lie, you just refused to look for it. Regarding F2P. ''We've HEARD that the game will be F2P but can't find confirmation anywhere official''. They have stated on their KZbin countless times that Once Human is F2P, that is official. If you type it into Steam, it is listed as FREE. Regarding their monetisation. They've already said, again, that the monetisation will be solely cosmetics. And as I stated above, the Chinese version had the store active and you can see that they are selling weapon skins, armour skins, vehicles skins, building skins, Battle Pass contains the same. They also have tickets you can buy to change your character name and appearance. Again, all cosmetic in nature, nothing that changes how the game plays or gives anyone an advantage over someone else. Regarding Endgame. You are stating what the betas have as end game despite having less than half the content in the game available to us during them. We cannot comment on end game activities as we haven't experienced them. We also know they intend to add leaderboards for Prime Wars as you can see it in the Warband tab. They had this during CBT 2 but removed it for CBT 3 but the tooltips still talk about it so it will be coming back. You also mention Starchrom farming but again, if you paid attention to the videos and the feedback forms, you'd know that they are looking to add blueprint fragments to silos, bosses and Prime Wars so that you can grind them to get better gear over time. So end game will likely be farming silos, bosses and prime wars both for blue prints and leaderboard competing. But ultimately nobody knows because we haven't had end game yet. As a Content Creator in the program, you should know better and do better than spreading misinformation. I saw you reply to someone saying that your main issue was communication and on this I can agree with you. However, being a Chinese game, Chinese devs are known for being super secretive with everything until it's actually released. You should expect a massive blog post on release or the day before release, breaking down patches as well as listing MTX for the game. China does not conform with Western games and how they operate and we need to accept that. Some cry baby gamers will not over turn the CCP. Now ultimately, all of this can change but it could change for the better OR worse. Only time will tell. So instead of speculating on negative aspects, how about focusing on what we DO know is happening based on the videos they've released and the videos from the Chinese players that showcase the Battle Pass and other shop items. Do better.

[@MattyGorm]

I'm sorry you felt that way about the video, but I always read my comments in full and I'd like to respond. Regarding the map: I mentioned that the betas were about 1/3 of the map and the demo map was even smaller. I mentioned that most of the concern I saw came from demo players. I said that we will be getting the full map at launch and I am confident it will have interesting areas for us to explore. Regarding seasons: I feel like your opinion on Eternaland is subjective, as is mine. Eternaland is the plan for in-between seasons, as said by the developers, so I'm just reiterating what they've already mentioned. Regarding bugs: I mentioned that the developers are likely patching bugs from CBT3 and that the demo isn't an accurate representation of the state of the game. IAP Test: Progress being carried over is a big concern. It doesn't matter that it's PVE only. Many players are concerned about this (just look at any discussion related to IAP). It may not end up being a big deal, but the concern is there. I am FULLY aware that the questions I'm asking have been answered, as I stated in the video. The point of the video is that the answers to these questions are NOT easy to find. For new players, they shouldn't need to dig through videos or devblogs to see if the game will be free, for example. Just because I am part of their content creator program doesn't mean I consume every single piece of content that Once Human puts out, but I will be trying to do better regarding that. Unfortunately, the content creator community Discord also has an issue with communication, so we aren't being spoon fed information while the rest of the community isn't. I have made countless videos praising this game and talking about how much I love it. I make one video asking basic questions that A LOT of people have also asked on my videos/streams and now I'm only "speculating on negative aspects"? The Once Human Discord server is filled with people every single day asking the same questions as me, because it's NOT clear where to find those answers. I really don't appreciate you saying that I am spreading misinformation. Nothing in my video is misinformation. They are all questions that should have their answers clearly communicated. I don't care that the developers are "secretive" - most MMOs publish information like this well before release. I take this channel seriously and I care about my community. Please don't insuinate that I don't.

[@xXNATHANUSMAXIMUSXx]

@@MattyGorm I appreciate you taking the time to read the comment and reply to it but I still believe you are being disingenuous and misleading.The first thing to take into account with this video is the opening. The first thing you say in the video is that you are concerned. You then state you are in the CCP (Not the Chinese Communist Party) and that you've played the game alot. This sets a basis for viewers that you MUST know what you're talking about so if you're concerned, that's a bad thing. This, along with the negative click bait title/thumbnail, immediately sets a negative tone for the viewers that click on it. You then say you enjoy the game but that does not erase the negative mindset that people are instantly hit with. So everything you say in the rest of your video is being watched and listened to by someone that had a negative bias instead of a neutral one. You then said you did research and that there is stuff they haven't addressed or was never mentioned by the devs. The problem here being that you either didn't do research or did very poor research because every question you ask is answered by devs already. Regarding the map - You never ONCE stated we were getting the full map at launch. Your exact words were ''I expect that to continue when the rest of the map is revealed. You never stated when that is. People in the demo think that the full game will be the same map we had during that and you did not correct them by saying the full game will have the full map. You are being disingenuous again by saying you did say that when you did not. Regarding seasons - You are 100% correct that opinions on Eternaland are subjective. Some of my friends think it's cool, some of my friends and me included didn't touch it outside of completing the mission because it's boring and lonely. It's fine to enjoy Eternaland but it's not a substitute for MMO gameplay. Eternaland should be additive to the experience, not a replacement for lack of content. Regarding the bugs - You said that you hope most bugs will be fixed before launch but what you didn't say is that most of the bugs people are experiencing in the demo were patched already. There will no doubt be new bugs on launch but the current bugs are already fixed and anyone that played CBT 3 until the final week should know this. IAP Test - It is NOT a concern that progress is carried over, that's people being jealous that they don't get the head start. To say people are concerned on Discord is a bad argument because most of the people on Discord don't know how to change worlds in game despite the tutorial telling you 5 minutes into the game. Discord is full of morons that need people to hold their hands so their opinions mean nothing. Just look at the suggestions channel and you'll see how dumb people can be. There is absolutely no problem and no need for concern about people keeping 2 weeks progress locked in Phase 1. You are again being disingenuous here. You did NOT say that the questions had been answered at all. You stated that ''it was said that it's F2P. It was said that there's no P2W.'' And you also said that you ''could not find any official confirmation of this'' despite videos on the OFFICIAL channel stating this numerous times. The point of the video was NOT that the answers are hard to find because you never gave the answers in the video. I agree that it should be easier to find the answers but I'm challenging you on your claim that you couldn't find anything official because you never looked. Its there. I only mentioned the CCP because you yourself made a point about it at the beginning which makes people think you must know what you're talking about if you're in that. If being in the CCP doesn't give you any extra information that saying you're in it serves no purpose other than to flex. Your previous positive videos mean nothing for people who see this video before any of your others, like me. As I stated, your opening to the video sets a negative tone immediately. As a Content Creator with a lot of hours in the game, your job is to answer the questions people are asking instead of making a video regurgitating those questions when you already know the answer to them. I understand it might have upset you for me to say you were spreading misinformation but you were. You mentioned that the store MIGHT be tied to progress (you should already know it isn't), that's misinformatoin. You mentioned NetEase having a bad track record with P2W (you provided 0 examples to base this statement off of), that's misinformation. You said you can't find official confirmation that the game is F2P with no P2W (I explained to you how this is not the case), that's misinformation. I agree with you that the communication is bad and that it should be easy to find the answers to those questions. However saying you can't find those answers is just false, you can find them you just don't try hard enough because I found those answers easily. It also doesn't matter how YOU feel about them being secretive unlike most MMOs because China is a super strict country that does things it's own way. Do not try to make a Chinese company conform to Western standards because they won't. I don't like it, you don't like it, most if not all people don't like but it's the way it is and won't change. That's something we need to accept instead of crying about. Saying you care about your community while using click bait, negative and misleading titles and thumbnails is hate-view farming. It's not being honest, it's being view hungry. And like I said 10 times prior, stating otherwise is being disingenuous.You nitpicked only certain parts of my reply and tried to gaslight me into believing that you said you stuff in the video that you simply did not say and that the purpose of the video was something that it was not.

[@MattyGorm]

I'm really sorry you feel this way, as I don't believe I was being disingenuous by asking questions that tons of other people have also asked. I was not intending for people to pick apart every last word I said, I just wanted to start a healthy discussion on these hot-topic issues. I really do appreciate the feedback, but I'd ask you be less sinister in your thoughts. I am genuine person and never meant for a video like this to enrage some people. They are honestly questions that I just want clearly communicated by the developers, and I essentially made this video as an outlet for the many comments I receive asking the same questions. I know the answers are out there, but they aren't easy to find (for example, I've spent the last hour trying to find the "free to play" official answer, and I had to go back through months of videos to find it.) I just don't think that's fair for new players. Rather than writing novel after novel back and forth with each other, I'd be happy to discuss more via Discord if you'd like. I honestly do want to make the best content possible for this game, but if this is how someone is feeling after 1 video, perhaps I need to re-evaluate the type of content I make.

[@xXNATHANUSMAXIMUSXx]

@@MattyGorm The problem was that you are asking questions that you should instead be answering. Starting a healthy discussion is always a good thing but the video title and thumbnail are doom and gloom and then the first thing you say reinforces the negative outlook and sets the tone for the rest of the video. It doesn't sound like a discussion, it just sounds negative. If I was too aggressive I apologise. I've spent the last week arguing with people about the game as people keep making P2W assumptions with no basis for it and I'm getting really fed up with saying the same things to everyone but nobody seems to listen. So my anger is not specific to you, it's towards all the people that either spread misinformation or in your case, spread concern about stuff that you should not be concerned about because we already know the answers to those concerns. So I apologise if anything I said upset you. As I previously said though, I completely agree with the fact they don't communicate well but China is China and love it or hate it, it's something we need to accept. The easiest way to find out if Once Human is free is to just type it into Steam Store. It is listed as ''FREE'' in the search. The store itself advertising it as free is as official as you're gonna get. As I'm not a content creator I cannot tell you how you should or shouldn't do something. All I can say as a viewer of the video, is that it came off as extremely negative and fanned the flames of P2W fears. I understand people have lives and can't spend every minute of every day learning all the information about games, but as someone that says they are in the CCP, it gives people the assumption that you DO know more than others, even if you don't. It gives you more responsibility when talking about the game than normal CCs have when making similar videos. I wish you the best though and I hope you enjoy the full release. If it's not free or if it has P2W, I'll buy a hat and eat it.

[@MattyGorm]

I am actually working on a video addressing all of these questions (that was planned along with this video). And it is still hard to find answers that are consistent. I'll be doing my best to provide sources for every bit of information, but it is still frustrating trying to interpret what the developers mean on some topics. Also, only reason I brought up the Creator Program was to show that I am not "hating" on the game, and in fact, I'm a huge advocate for it. I'll be sure to be more cautious when mentioning that. I do appreciate the feedback and I hope you don't have to eat your hat.

[@mrshrimp3393]

hey everyone i have a question. I only had about 9 hours in the game but i have some conserns.... The enmeys in the game felt..... blank... or dumb. Does the game ever feel like the enemy's aren't stupid? they were also extremely easy

[@sempraviar9775]

The only trick they will show us its "Gimme your money"

[@---xk8cp]

If they are doing wipes they will easily lose more then half their potential players as we have seen the trend with other games that do 3--9 month wipes lose their players. So this will be a DOA Game essentially if they do that.

[@tyrelllovewine2038]

Games like ark, rust, conan, tarkov. The trend is good. Casuals like wipes so if they suck one season, they can leave and have a fair shot next season.

[@anthonyclaughan5620]

I think they will knock back the release date and from what ive seen. I think there is way to much for them to fix for it to be ready by July 9th,

[@MattyGorm]

Honestly I don't think they will, they just announced it and it's quickly approaching. Feel like they would've announced a later date if that's the case but I guess we'll see! Also I already took off work so pls don't change it 😂

[@saiyanhub156]

I think it'll come out early access not fully release

[@playinggames7397]

Once human is a strange game that is really well made but for the amount of players you see around you when you first start playing the game farming and everything should be good but the end game content which will come by force not by your choice you will end up playing alone most of the time if you don't have a friend or a guild /clan its a mobile game 1st place that is highly promoted by streamers and shit good start dead end game dead world most of the time and a lot of raid vests from the gacha machine

[@tharbadj]

There is a system in place to create groups, similar to a LFG, which you can use to get random players that also want to do the same activity you want

[@KinsFluff]

I just want the controller settings to work. Its there in the settings!

[@taylor6496]

The question is, Once Human or Soulmask?

[@AerikCook]

1) Map concerns is just crazy to me, I only played the Demo but it was a lot of area to explore. 2) Bugs? Every game has bugs and my demo experience there was very little. 3) Translation issues for sure need to be addressed cause it caused some confusion when I was playing. 4) IAP carry over is not that big of deal as it is only for PVE servers, a lot of company do early release if preorder stuff, they just did it in a different aspect. 5) I really hope they don't do any P2W, too many games i've thoroughly enjoyed ended up being some type (even if minor) P2W and I lost interest in them. 6) I agree with methods of getting Starchrom. I know very few ways of obtaining it and the one I havent been able to test nor do I really want to do, is those chaos thing that trigger PVP.

[@theloner6063]

Undawn is bigger. Also better game

[@noisyboy8048]

Biggest concern for everyone who wants to play it for PvP is that it will be a F2P shooter for PC. That combination never works for PvP games without inviting insane amounts of cheaters and exploiters becuase it costs nothing to work around a ban with a new account. I get the feeling this is new territory for NetEase and they will be ill-prepared. If they have a separation between PvE and PvP servers they should consider a proper retail sale of the PvP access as a module.

[@highcommander2007]

meh not worried about the same concerns you had. i am however worried their ingame filter is too strict. Try typing "can make" or "china" in chat... good luck

[@lautgedacht2623]

For me it just feels like an old game... idk maybe because it was on twitch/youtube constantly. I was hyped a year ago, now it feels like i just went on.

[@angelesblancosincofficial4756]

Controller support plz 🙏

[@morqai]

Hello there, new sub here, have seen alot of your videos on this game. Any chance you can make a video informing us of the effect on gameplay by selecting a PVP or PVE servers so it will help us selecting the type of server from the start.

[@jaykobe3544]

i dont know how u call it but i but theese stardust stones in this thing, so my base got attacked and they destroyed my storage box where all my crafting materials where in and they all dissapeared.. i stopped playing cause of that

[@xXNATHANUSMAXIMUSXx]

The stuff from the chest goes into your vault. Go to your base terminal and press V I think to access the vault and take the stuff back out.

[@jaykobe3544]

@@xXNATHANUSMAXIMUSXx thanks for your reply, i will take that knowldge into the full release ;)

[@extbr3akz]

how could IAP work with a wipe ? Since there is a stoe behind it, makes so much sense. Derrick mentioned it once about been F2P, it got clipped on YT aswell.

[@MattyGorm]

I understand purchases from IAP not getting wiped, but progress seems odd. Hoping they make a more official statement about F2P!

[@extbr3akz]

@@MattyGorm looks like a bit heavy to let people purchase and not keeping their progress. i get it and i also care less. If someone starts 2,3 Weeks earlier, this aint a Ratrace, no need to push, we will miss nothing .. and by any Means, every F2P Game needs somehow to get something back .... Cosmetics wont help you getting faster and better Blueprints either ..

[@MattyGorm]

@extbr3akz The main concern is that the microtransactions aren't only cosmetics. It's hard to find an official page with their monetization plans, so that's the reason for concern. I'm confident that it will be cosmetic-only, but would be nice to have an official statement and not just a mention on a KZbin video or Discord message.

[@tharbadj]

@@MattyGorm You can argue that you don't personally trust the devs, but they have been very vocal about this since at least CBT2. They have even said that Netease would have to kill them first before allowing any sort of pay to win or pay for power transactions. If you go to their page, they specifically state that the monetization will be based on cosmetic micro transactions. Not exactly sure what more would you need here, a signed letter from the CEO with a pinky promise? ;-)

[@MattyGorm]

@@tharbadj I know that they've mentioned it (as I said in the video), but their microtransaction plans, cost of the game, and end game plans aren't stated anywhere officially on their channels or on their website. Important information like that should be easily found. Currently that information is either buried in devblogs, interviews or through random Discord messages. People shouldn't need to dig through that just to find out if this game will be free, for example. That was the point of the video. Even if the information exists somewhere online, we need more transparent, up-front communication on those topics. Very similar to how any other MMO handles their PR before launch.

[@soniamussa4892]

Valid concerns, thanks for highlighting

[@couchbuddies1055]

It is true that netease has a well known reputation for making their mmo, and other games they partner with to be p2w(eveonline and diablo immortal). The fact that they branched out to mobile is giving me Undawn vibes where even the undawn devs said they wont go p2w but as we can see, they lied. Starry studios is a sub team of Netease, they are also the publisher for them. They will have a big say on how monetisation will be as they would want to secure the return of investment. Just like any other publishers. Im not saying it's guaranteed but there are too many flags raised to not be doubtful.

[@iKRPictures]

Great video, good points. My biggest gripe that I let them know whenever I could during CBT2 and 3: 1. Too easy. Mobs are easy to conquer, some of the "Elite" enemies are so beautifully designed, and I found when playing with friends, they're melted down so fast you don't even get to appreciate their abilities 2. Level 45-50 grind felt tedious. I think we'll lose a lot of players here, into end game. It would have been great to see them implement a late-game character skill tree or more incentives. We have a short attention span in North America lol.

[@sempraviar9775]

ITs ok @MattyGorm! Will all "cry" but we all goin to spend money for skins and much more and they know it!

[@Yaraer]

i loved pvp until i found out what kind of people and how many people use illegal solutions to gain advantage in pvp. The way they behave when they defeat someone is just icing on the cake. So if the focus is on PVP in the endgame, the end of the story will be a pretty toxic puddle. By the way, if the tower defense part were thoroughly developed, it would keep many people on the PVE servers (for example the 7DTD is still an attractive game for PVE-loving teams even after 10 years. Outsmart the programmers mind, who are developing the movement of zombies is good fun). The game condition is very buggy at the moment, monsters slide through walls and doors. The defense elements are currently more of an appearance. Now, if you want to protect something, all you have to do is lay down a labyrinth of sandbags.

[@PrinceMitsuko]

I’m more concerned about the game don’t have p2p marketplace also gta online business owning like drug and weapon dealers could make the game much better

[@stresa1638]

They should remove the cash shop and just do a monthly sub.. it has proven in the past to be the better system for long term

[@maddworld2544]

oh... i did not know it was a seasonal game like path of exile... I don't really like that, honestly. why are so many devs trying to do this now a days?

[@circaen]

Because there are plenty of people that do like it. It allows a starting point for new players. It allows for iteration. POE is one of the biggest, longest lasting games in the history of gaming. It works. As long as they have a place for you to save stuff, I don't mind there being seasons that are fresh starts.

[@thomasconnolly905]

Big problem not able to use xbox series x controller support. They had no controller support in early access or demo. Players who like using controller support are they going to have in full game. I don't care about mobile games released the game to come consoles.

[@notreallyalec]

I want to play!

[@captainvlad]

first review on steam's interesting

[@GCDragonfli]

You did hear that .. The Developer canceled the IAP was canceled .. Because it was unfair to *ALL* players

[@MattyGorm]

Yup! This video was made before that decision

[@GCDragonfli]

@@MattyGorm 👍

[@uglyfoox8964]

So IAP is canceled?

[@MattyGorm]

Yes it was cancelled

[@optics-saltlesscruelty6146]

YES

[@coreriey4986]

this is just ads to me

[@CasualAf-kv7gr]

If there will be no fresh servers on full release there is no point of playing the game . All good base spots will be taken and every1 will be maxed by then .

[@tyrelllovewine2038]

They cancelled the test and even if they didn’t, it was only PVE servers that would be tested and not all of them.

[@nateallen9436]

It's on mobile is it on Xbox or ps5

[@MattyGorm]

Only PC and mobile are confirmed for now

[@ChibaBanana]

I have a feeling that, this will went to shit all because the greedy man in suits.

[@fatjay9402]

No word about PVP `?

[@sempraviar9775]

I will play this game!

[@adamcoulson3964]

i enjoyed playing the demo but i really feel like this game will be dead after the first 6-12 weeks and i dont feel incentivized to play multiple wipes especially such a short wipe im someone with all the time in the world to play games and i still dont feel like my time will be useful with such wipes eternaland doesnt fix the issues for me wipes in games like this destroy alot of the want and need to play the game. i hope they change how they plan on doing the game but i will not be playing 6 week wipes

[@sempraviar9775]

We all remember Todds Lies! They will have pay too win pay too look good and pay not to grind! There arent games anymore bros.. They are service games!

[@brutalhonesty5138]

Their translation to English sucks when then try to communicate too!

[@janninesanchez1091]

bikes should go faster

[@tharbadj]

Forgive my criticism, but I don't understand how you are a Once Human content creator and you haven't heard anything officially from the devs regarding micro transactions, free to play and play to win, considering they have been very vocal about this. Just check their latest dev talk recently on the Summer Game Fest, or any of the other talks and interviews where they address this topic. Of course, things could change, we never really know, but claiming you have never seen anything from the devs is weird to me.

[@MattyGorm]

I wasn't saying I've never seen anything from the devs on those topics, but rather than it being a casual mention on a video or Discord message, I want to see an official announcement or page on their website. For example, their official channels and website don't mention "free to play" anywhere and that is strange since we are so close to launch. Answers to these questions shouldn't be buried in an interview. They should be front and center so that all players understand their intentions.

[@86ericg]

There no north america east server only west that one of my consern

[@MattyGorm]

There were East US servers in Beta 3 so they should be there for launch!

[@NORKIE]

who tf out here saying servers aint cheap??? dead wrong btw and if a company is smart they can literally pay for themselves.

[@nateallen9436]

Is this just for p.c

[@MattyGorm]

PC and mobile are confirmed 👍

[@SnakeSan4o]

u dont watch official ytube channel video? Developer say all about game, why u named content creator urself without knowing base info and dont check news

[@MattyGorm]

Please read the pinned comment. You're missing the point of the video. Thanks!

[@lapej1337]

tbh looks like undawn 2.0v

[@ks_snuggles]

Big pass RIP

[@jonrich9675]

Game will lose interesting in the first week if they don't get rid of the receptiveness. If you like doing boring strongholds, and gathering mats the entire game (which is meta boring), then this snore fest is for your empty brain.

[@MGC-XIII]

I noticed my food spoiling while being offline, reported it as a bug. I also think that your hunger and thirst levels drop too fast.

[@vincentvaladez9607]

I don’t think that would be considered a bug because the world itself is an online multiplayer

[@MGC-XIII]

@@vincentvaladez9607 your food shouldn't spoil when you're offline.

[@tyrelllovewine2038]

@@MGC-XIIIthat’s how it is in every other game and it’s online. While you’re playing with yourself other people will be online destroying your base. So yea it makes sejse

[@MGC-XIII]

@@tyrelllovewine2038 what other games spoil the food when you're offline?

[@tyrelllovewine2038]

@@MGC-XIII ark, rust, Conan. Pretty much all survival games with base raiding elements. You need spoiled meat to make narcotics in rust. Rust your food just spoils over time. Conan it’s used as fertilizer. Once human you also use spoiled meat as fertilizer.

[@J_u_r_i]

the only thing that would ruin the game is P2W

[@Growl-zw8me]

Yeah sMe like undawn that game sucks 😂

[@HellAbr]

boring game so yeah

[@docdiver]

P2w

[@extbr3akz]

Bullahit.

[@playinggames7397]

@@extbr3akz it is pay to win same as undawn if not worse way before the updates and beta tests you be able to gain weapon fragments from boss fights now you need something called starchromes yeah ?

[@extbr3akz]

@@playinggames7397 where does it say that we get Blueprint Fragments from Boss Fights ? Why do you mention Boss Fights or SC Currency when we talk about P2W ???

[@a_bonafide_rarity]

this game isn't even remotely pay to win lol. they offer ONE kind of item that you can buy- cosmetics aka skins. that's it. the devs literally said that netease (publisher) would have to kill them in order for it to become p2w.

[@Kongren94]

@@playinggames7397 How exactly is it pay to win in case Starchrom isn't going to be purchasable?

[@ChibaBanana]

Trust me on this, it's gonna be another BDO, where you have to pay irl money if you want to keep up with the best player.

[@sykxplays]

In regards to people crying about server resetting You guys never played dayz or rust

[@theloner6063]

Or Undawn

[@theloner6063]

Undawn is a better game overall

[@jcj1764]

This game will not be free to play if there’s micro transactions then it’s just like any other game out now it’s paid to play and pay to win. You’ve already pointed out that will be unfair for new players.Because of the fact that the game tester can make purchases and keep them and get a two week Headstart before the game even hits the App Store

[@Marsh.x]

You make content for the game because you're incentivized to do so... annoying that people on KZbin try to play it of like it's not true. Take any recommendation on KZbin with the absolute tiniest grain of salt; as there is always money behind it.

[@MattyGorm]

How am I incentivized to do so? I get nothing from Starry Studio for my videos. Would be nice though lol