Does RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK Hold Up? - Movie Review

Hey. This is a look back at Raiders of the Lost Ark, one of the best films of all time, to see if it still works well in the 2020s. You read the title. You clicked the thumbnail. Why are you reading this?
Anyway, with Indiana Jones 5: Raiders of the Lost Retirement Home coming out next year, I thought I'd look back at the first film in the series. Maybe I'll look at the others? Not sure yet. Anyway, if you've read this far, hit the subscribe button!
Edit: I did continue! Watch my review of Temple of Doom below.
Watch my other Indiana Jones content:
Temple of Doom review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4PPYoGhe8eXh7s
Last Crusade review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHSsqX2fftmMaLM
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYPdkqOEd9icoqs
Dial of Destiny review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioSnoqdqepWgbdU
What Disney will do with Indiana Jones next: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZDMY4SGZbGDiqM
Link to the full "Raiders Sessions" video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIXbnWSupc2FeKM
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[@doesitholdup]

Hi, y'all! My Temple of Doom review is now out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4PPYoGhe8eXh7s Hope you enjoy!

[@leebrandt8597]

There was too much woke POV on this video. I'm half Mexican and living in Mexico, and I have no problem with Molina playing a South American. To say that it "hurts" the movie is just an overreaction. Enjoy the movie for what it is

[@doesitholdup]

I don't know if I said anywhere in this review that you can't enjoy this movie for what it is. It's one of the greatest movies of all time, as well as one of my favorite movies of all time, and nothing I say can change that! I explicitly said "it’s an element that hurts the film a bit in holding up today", not "it's an element that hurts the film's overall quality". It truly boggles my mind that people interpret me pointing out various dated elements as me saying the movie is bad or unwatchable or something. Call it "woke", call it whatever you want, but all I'm saying is you don't see this type of stuff in movies anymore. That's it! That's really truly it.

[@leebrandt8597]

@@doesitholdup fair enough

[@michaelcox1913]

It's one of the Greatest Movies ever made...It Holds up just fine

[@georgemorley1029]

Lets get this straight. All other action adventure films have to hold themselves up to Raiders of the Lost Ark. There’s really nothing else to say.

[@xhagast]

You got it. There is really nothing else to say.

[@christuffer]

Visually, the film is stunning. The actual care in the cinematography and shots puts modern films to shame, which now rely on throwing in too much cartoonish CGI.

[@chiefscheider]

The recent trailer for the new Indy movie is a perfect example of that. Some of the CGI looks downright awful.

[@kijekuyo9494]

It's refreshing to see an adventure film that doesn't have the pacing of a 15-second KZbin commercial.

[@JedHead77]

It’s perfectly directed, cast, acted, produced, shot, choreographed, edited, and scored! If you watch it in black & white, it even looks like an old Hollywood film. Just watch all reaction videos of people watching it for the first time (most of whom were not even born or were too young when it came out). It *does* hold up. And the “questionable” stuff you bring up are not really even brought up by them.

[@1974Imperium]

An action movie with no fake green screen. The truck chase scene is one of the best sequences ever filmed. Raiders is one of the finest movies ever made.

[@ender7278]

They had matte paintings. It's basically the same thing.

[@markholohan4446]

Yes it does hold up. The only people who have problems are the always easily offended. Stop ruining classic movies.

[@Mojacaine]

@@bilbobaggins9451 huh? I think you misread his comment

[@Lanosrep]

Pedophillia and racism don't hold up. The film can, but aspects do not

[@harribo6469]

I bet ur fav part of the film was indy having a relationship with a minor in the past then huh

[@mattwinbourn9450]

what a stupid thing to say

[@kel-lee8621]

@@Lanosrep I bet your just fine with velma lmao

[@coleparker]

As someone who watched the film when it first came out and was in the archaeological field at the same time, we knew the movie was not reality but was based upon the old movies from the 30s to through the 50s. If you want to see the real forerunners of the movie I suggest you watch Valley of the Kings with Robert Taylor and Deborah Kerr, and Secret of the Incas with Charlton Heston. Heston's wardrobe in the movie is definitely the basis for Indy's appearance.

[@drdghattierdc]

Exactly

[@claykeough7898]

I still consider this a perfect film.

[@anubusx]

I will always defend Templee Of Doom.

[@BryanRiel]

It’s a perfect trilogy 😂

[@eamonclark4952]

Raiders Of The Lost Ark is one of the greatest movies of all time and one of Spielberg’s best and my favorite Spielberg film. The characters are compelling and the performances are all great with Karen Allen being the standout as Marion Ravenwood my favorite character in the film and in the franchise and Marion is hot in the film. She’s the best love interest in the franchise. Harrison Ford Is Indiana Jones and John Williams’s score is epic. Steven Spielberg directs the film flawlessly. There’s no bad scene in the film

[@DMalltheway]

Raiders is a classic and a timeless flick.

[@jakobthonen9411]

Everything about it holds up and it's absolutely a flawless film to this day.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

The scene towards the beginning where Indy and Brody are talking to Army intelligence, that scene belongs in the top 10 best examples of how to do exposition correctly to give us who, what, where, why about the whole point of the movie.

[@blakeharris58]

Well said!!!

[@thebasementfilmgroup]

True...but that's only because it suits this style of storytelling... it wouldn't work for all genres... in films where the story and backstop unfolds naturally takes a lot of work to hide the unnatural exposition elements. In Raiders the format works because he literally schools them in the history of the Ark - he does a lecture. Can't do that in a kitchen sink drama.

[@jamesschulziii9098]

This movie is one of the best films of all time. If anyone is offended, go watch any Errol Flynn movie or a John Wayne film. If you are not a cream puff by then, you're welcome and enjoy.

[@alancranford3398]

Speaking of youth, how old were Snow White, Aurora, Cinderella, Ariel, and Jasmine? This creepy part of Indiana Jones and Marian Ravencroft was par for the Disney princess course. All Marian needed were big hair, an affinity for animals and a pretty gown to be a Disney princess--like Queen Amidala.

[@hideofreakingkojima5457]

tbf all of the classic/renaissance disney princess stories were from 1800s to 10,300 AD. "You gotta put this shit in historical perspective"

[@andylikesstuffchannel]

End of the day it's one of if not the greatest film ever made

[@44excalibur]

“How cool are we with John Rhys-Davies playing a middle eastern man?" I don't know, how cool are we with Egyptian actor Omar Sharif playing Doctor Zhivago, a Russian character from classic Russian literature? Seriously, dude, lay off the wokeness.

[@1800astra]

I agree, and how cool we are that Nebraskan-born actor Marlon Brando (of West European heritage) 'played' a Sicilian crime boss in 1971's 'The Godfather' by just 'acting', and won a best actor Oscar for it? Weren't there any unemployed genuine Sicilian Mafiosi around that Coppola could've cast, to be absolutely authentic?

[@dbevit]

The film is perfect.

[@androrobuiques9497]

Mfw (My face when) actors (hired to pretend to be someone they are not) pretend to be someone they are not 😱😱

[@cruizlee214]

How hard would it be to get Karen Allen to ADR in the line, "I've learned to hate you in the last FIVE years,"?

[@nellgwenn]

Now do Titanic. If Indy is a grave robber so is Bill Paxton's character in Cameron's Titanic. Also you can't just go to the ship and take stuff, it's a protected site.

[@John-hk4fr]

How does this film not hold up? The only problems are behind-the-scenes ones. I'll let my kid watch it.

[@alexguardado3842]

As someone who is a part of gen z, I absolutely love the Indiana Jones films, though I do catch little things in the films such as the brown face, and the weird Indy/Marion thing (everything in the 80's was totally different, including mindsets so, I dont expect everything to be politically correct all the time) , I think these films will stand the test of time, specifically Raiders, as one of the best adventure movies ever made, and one of Harrison Ford's best movies, though I think Indy is heavily overshadowed by Ford's portrayal of Han Solo. Also didn't know about the shady things John Rhys- Davies had said (Totally shitty things to say btw, i dont agree at all) , but I genuinely enjoy his portrayal of Sallah :)

[@rypatmackrock]

Maybe Harrison Ford’s portrayal of Han Solo overshadowing Indiana Jones was maybe spiritually baked into the entire perspective of the original production of Indiana Jones; as George Lucas himself stated it in this video, “Indiana Jones was meant to be a low budget B-movie.” Miraculously, we all know this movie franchise would succeed in becoming pop-culture staples, and cementing the cinematic legacies of George Lucas and Steven Spielberg.

[@xhagast]

Sallah represented the natives. They were different, NOT fools. And their friendship and help were worth having.

[@haydennault2706]

I’m from gen z to but I watch stuff like from the time it was made and don’t put all the pc stuff in my head because I know it wasn’t a big deal then and it doesn’t bother me at all like it was made a long time ago of course it’s not going to be like the stuff today I don’t know why people don’t get that and make a big deal out of it because it’s not pc it’s not a big deal

[@markusallen5634]

How many people remember the scene where Belloq has a fly land on his face then crawl into his mouth?

[@chiefscheider]

I saw Raiders six times in the summer of '81 and laughed every time he ate the fly. Incidentally that dude turned 80 this month!

[@markblum5059]

It was talked about all the time back then in the theater. Now no one even knows what you're talking about when you bring it up.

[@leftcoaster67]

He was just focused on being in character.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

Oh, like I should change my appreciation of a near perfect film because Zoomers exist

[@Ludwig1970]

The film never definitively said Indy and Marion had sex so people saying pedophilia is a bit of a stretch. At 15 years old she could’ve had a major crush and Indy just gave her the attention she was craving but they never said it got physical.

[@Roper122]

Not only that, but they never specify ages in the film either. People just want to make crap up.

[@xhagast]

She was too angry for it not to.

[@Ludwig1970]

@@xhagast She’s a woman and they are emotional. Add love into the mix and I’m surprised she stayed as calm as she did in the film.

[@Roper122]

@@xhagast That's a stretch

[@blakeharris58]

I always assumed it was more like he was 25 and she was like 19.

[@wolfeflambe]

I think the fact you have only 410 subscribers after 2 years of this channel sums up what people think of your perspective of how things hold up.

[@Paulsinke]

I love the analysis, it's neat to see how things change. In the 80's we either didn't have any idea or didn't care if our favorite actors were doing anything...problematic

[@germanchocolatecake8143]

Wow. I pride myself on my ability to recognize faces and voices, yet somehow I never noticed that Satipo was Dr. Oc. That's absolutely incredible! And as for John Rhys-Davies, well, I didn't know he was a major asshole, but I'll also foolishly admit that I was unsure what his ethnicity was exactly. I never gave any thought to him portraying an Egyptian. But I don't care. For whatever my opinion is worth, I'd say it's mostly inoffensive. And about Marion being a minor, I did learn about that behind-the-scenes detail not too long ago. In the film when she says, "I was a child," I never thought that was meant to be taken literally. I always assumed she just meant she was young and naive. And since that is just a behind-the-scenes detail, you can safely assume that's the intended implication.

[@thereisnosanctuary6184]

Likely a college student when he was a college graduate/new professor. Probably 17 year old/26 year old pairing. And since women "mature sooner" their mental ages were the same. Fun Fact: Both Satipo and Sallah went on to play Marvel Villains. In particular, Spiderman villains. Jon Rhys-Davies played the Kingpin in an Incredible Hulk/Daredevil tv movie in 1988 or so. And Alfred "spiders on his back" Molina got octopus tentacles instead.

[@jbard9892]

She's 15 in the novelization. As well as the ERB adaption. "Marion was just fifteen when you raided her bones. That's no time for love, Dr. Jones!" I met Alfred Molina and his wife once when I worked for NJPIRG in college. Really nice people.

[@1974Imperium]

Goddamn, my wife's grandparents were married when he was 18 she was 15. Times were different back then. It doesn't make it right it's just the way it was.

[@thomasdematteo2281]

It took me multiple viewings before I recognize that to be Alfred Molina and at the time the movie came out he was not famous

[@NISSIMKHALIFACOMPOSER]

The guy playing spielberg at 7:10 sounds exactly like him!

[@44excalibur]

I think that the film is implying that Indy got involved with Marion when she was very young and broke her heart, and that's what Marion is upset about. I seriously doubt that Marion would get involved with Indy again and eventually marry him if it was about what you seem to be implying.

[@triscuitsarebad]

what about the entire transcript of lucas wanting Marion to be 15 when they had an affair ??

[@44excalibur]

@@triscuitsarebad Lucas had a lot of stuff that he wrote that never ended up in the final draft of the script. Go look at his original script for Star Wars and see how radically different it is from what ended up onscreen.

[@in7035]

Of course it holds up. It's a movie. It's make-believe. If you were entertained, it holds up. That Rhys-Davies is Welsh is of no consequence. It's called "acting" for a reason, and I don't look into the personal opinions and beliefs of artists to decide if I should like their work or not. You can criticise the effects, of course, but I remember being utterly convinced by them in the theatre in 1981, and they still don't distract me. I register the matte lines and the relative flatness, but the story remains central. Maybe you should just try to, you know, watch the film the next time?

[@timetraveler7]

He's seeing if it holds up today, so yeah, some visuals are obviously going to be dated, but that was the entire point of the video to see how it compares to the modern world, no duh it's going to be dated and a little bit... insensitive. As for rhys, he still said sallah was a good character, it's just unfortunate that the dude playing him is a hateful conspiracy enthralled dolt.

[@LuckyBastardProd]

You have to remember the matte work looks better on film since the light from the projector to screen softens it up. That is lost when transferred to digital. If you were to watch a brand new print projected you wouldn’t notice it.

[@MrDavey2010]

Let’s not be woke please.

[@timetraveler7]

"Pedophilia bad = woke" is that the hill you want to die on?

[@jakestumm4101]

It’s a masterpiece of a film, it set the blueprint of what a great action adventure could be, plus all of the other elements sprinkled in really make frequent rewatches worth it each time.

[@markpaterson2053]

Ridiculous video. Does it hold up today? Are you kidding? You name one action adventure---ONE!---in the last 40 years that has surpassed it, which not even its sequels achieved

[@doesitholdup]

I mean, did you watch the video by chance? The title isn’t “has there been a better action-adventure film since Raiders?”. It’s still an incredible film and I take the time to make that clear several times in the video. I just wanted to examine, in detail, what aspects are showing their age compared to modern films and what aspects still fit perfectly up against modern films. That’s it! As for one action-adventure film that has surpassed Raiders, it would have to be 2017s The Mummy with Tom Cruise. Not even close.

[@markpaterson2053]

@@doesitholdup was that last part sarcasm? if so, you shouldn't explain sarcasm afterwards. Yeah, I watched the video, it was good but you kept on about dated aspects that are irrelevant to mention, unless you're one of the leftists, which I don't think you are. Anyway, good video, didn't like some of it but appreciate your overall appreciation.

[@rikk319]

@@markpaterson2053 I don't think that the minor critiques of the film are what bothered me, but the apparent details of the conversations by Spielberg and Lucas about putting a tween Marion in a sexual relationship with Indy that creeps most moral people out. If that's political to you, then you've got the wrong politics, regardless of what party you vote for.

[@markpaterson2053]

@@rikk319 you make a strong point, but I don't see how it applies to my comment (and politics is something I shun religiously, along with anyone who tries to push them onto me, so no worries there).

[@boxcarhobo7017]

Please. Today's movies don't hold up to 1981.

[@staidenofanarchy]

Holy christ these comments are one self-report after another Great video, great points, don't let people saying that pedophilia and brownface are A-OK stop you from making more videos like this

[@patricklemire9278]

Yes. If people can’t hold up to it, it’s a them problem. Referring to Harrison as a while male. Tips your hand.

[@scottclark3139]

I don’t agree with all your points but a well produced video that is worth a watch

[@doesitholdup]

Thanks for taking the time to watch it! Genuinely means a lot. What sorts of things did you not agree with?

[@scottclark3139]

@@doesitholdup It was a great watch. In no particular order, I think only one matte painting doesn’t hold up to 4k and that is one looking up from the hole in the floor at the peruvian temple. I don’t see the fact that Marion was 15 on their first affair as too much of a problem. ( I can see why you argued that modern audiences would not like the inference) It was done deliberately for 2 reasons. One is that they are apeing James Bond. The second is that it highlights that he is morally ambiguous which feeds into Beloq’s comment that they are very much alike. I don’t think they would have left it in that was 12 at the time. That was guy talk/black humour while they were coming up with ideas. Finally, I don’t believe that the “black face” argument is fair. Mainly because I don’t believe that an actor should be limited in that way. They are actors, they should be able to play different people as long as it comes from the heart. The majority of the the actors dressed up as nepalese and arabs are stuntmen. It is traditional in B movies that the limited number of stuntmen dress up in whoever they need for the stunts. men, women, different nationalities. Glad you asked?! It was a good video, I enjoyed it a lot

[@jadenreilly6430]

@@scottclark3139 those are the two things you disagreed with?💀

[@rikk319]

@@scottclark3139 "That was guy talk/black humour while they were coming up with ideas." I'm 54, have had dozens of friends and hundreds of aquaintances in my life, and never once did any other man I know talk like a tween and a grown man being in a love affair was funny or "humorous"...especially if they were fathers or had sisters.

[@camerafx24]

Obviously you have no idea what a good special effect looks like. Every effect you pointed out looks 10 times better than modern digital effects.

[@doesitholdup]

This is an absolutely bonkers take. I appreciate the effort that goes into practical effects as much as anyone, but the idea that they look better than what can be achieved today is such a lazy and reductive view on the subject. Here's a solid video on this topic: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH2ZmaNud7B1aJY

[@beermarshal2070]

I think it mostly holds up, sure. I saw it first when it came out, the summer before I turned 16 - so, perfect. It was one of my favorite films for a long time - not sure it still is, but I certainly do still have some nostalgic love for it. As to the behind-the-scenes stuff - that doesn't bother me at all really; I mean, some of it's very creepy, and Rhys-Davies' attitudes are pretty appalling, but the film as it appears today is still the same as it was 42 years ago and I'm not thinking of that kind of stuff when I watch it. Almost any big-budget Hollywood film from the past is going to have problems, some much, much worse, and I'm not the kind of person who is going to force every old piece of art and entertainment to fit my personal 2023 moral compass. My biggest problem with Indy is Marion - not her age (which as someone else mentions, isn't given - I always assumed she was 5-10 years younger than Indy which seems fine), but her character arc. She seems totally self-sufficient, tough, and able to take care of herself in her first couple of scenes, but rapidly becomes a damsel in distress. That's an issue I can't really get over and one that started to bug me by the time I was in college. As far as the effects, production design, etc - give me this over the MCU or the vast majority of modern American blockbusters any day.

[@dorisbove2210]

Oh yes I guess you're one of these blind stupid people, who didn't really watch the movie, when Marion ravenwood machine-gunned and killed a dozen Nazis while she was in the plane, and saved Indiana Jones's life again, yeah I think you're confusing Indiana Jones's the damsel in distress later on in the movie because he needed to be saved by Marion as he got his ass kicked by the big German guy and of course Indiana Jones gets captured like he doesn't every movie, let's not forget how we needed to be saved by a nine-year-old kid in the Temple of Doom shortround yeah right. Maybe you should really watch this movie next time, and make sure you don't write a fanfiction again and you state really what is in the movie, because you obviously have a problem with a badass woman like Marion Ravenwood overshadows Indiana Jones marion kills and saves Indiana Jones and never once get saved by anyone she saves herself, so where's the damsel, oh okay forget it I don't want to hear your fanfiction again

[@dorisbove2210]

Oh yeah and you made up more fanfiction with your age thing with Marion Ravenwood an Indiana Jones's ages , when they first hooked up she was 16 years old you know the actress Karen Allen said so in all the interviews, she's just the actress who played Marion Ravenwood, Indiana Jones was 26, but once again you manufacture your own fanfiction when making up the ages you wanted them to be it doesn't work that way delusional fanboy

[@anthonysmith3442]

I agree with most people, this movie still holds up. If we go back and nit pick all classic movies then we will have nothing.

[@jacobunderwood5206]

Indiana Jones is kinda like James Bond, they’ve both gotten so big and popular that the original flaws of their character have kinda been swept away. Indiana Jones is a bad, bad person by the time of Raiders. He’s a two-but grave robber, he had an affair with a teenager when he was in his twenties, he kills people and hardly thinks about it. He is nasty, and yes, he is hardly better than Belloq. He only begins his redemption in Raiders, and doesn’t complete it until Last Crusade

[@superrandomguy-lz4jf]

L video But a fun drinking game Take a shot every time he brings up race

[@chiefscheider]

i di d nad now im hai vgn trbl tipng 😵

[@christopherdunn317]

Its the new movies that don't hold up ! why this classic ? do you really think the new one will ?

[@doesitholdup]

Hi! Thanks for your comment. A more accurate title could possibly be “what aspects of Raiders of the Lost Ark hold up and what things are beginning to show their age”, but that’s a little long. I tried to at least get that idea across in the thumbnail! The movie is obviously a masterpiece, and I say that in the video, but there are elements that are showing their age and I wanted to examine them. If you end up watching the video, I hope you enjoy :) cheers. As for if I have high hopes for the new one, I honestly don’t. They tried having another adventure similar to the original three films in Crystal Skull, but it just didn’t work with an Indy that was as old as he was. If they try to do something like that again, only he’s now 15 years older than that, I can see it being poorly conceived. Could they take his character in a different direction? Sure, but it was never the character that people cared about, but the adventure. So my expectations are low, but we’ll see! A part of me is excited to see the character again at the very least.

[@lukecaverns]

Until European archaeology came around, nobody had really even tried to preserve Africa’s archaeological heritage. War had been destroying everything since 3,000BC. This is still happening in the Middle East.

[@TheMaineSurveyor]

As far as the word “Raiders” having negative connotations, it does. The Nazis are the raiders, not Indy and Sallah.

[@kthx1138]

Indy and Sallah are raiders too. They had no right removing the Ark from its tomb, despite their more benign intention to place the Ark in a museum.

[@TheMaineSurveyor]

@@kthx1138 The only way to save it was to steal it. It's upside down (although that might be the premise for a different movie...).

[@2NDCBT]

The Film holds up just fine. I doubt anyone is nitpicking the race of the characters! Just watch and enjoy it for what it is. A fun movie.

[@jakestumm4101]

The movie was also a masterpiece just from the perfect score from John Williams. From the fist fight to the truck chase I don’t think there’s a better scored film that coveys what’s happening on screen more perfectly than that.

[@lukesmhudson]

This review is pure silliness. Is it true to the character? That’s all that matters, not if the character holds up to 2022. Imagine if all character held up to what’s so called right in 2022 there’d be no dramatic tension at all.

[@lewiswebster2089]

"He's a Grave Robber" 2:25 Harrison Ford, most self aware actor 😄

[@blsof8bc]

Very insightful, thanks for sharing your perspective. Never knew John-Rhys Davies had the anti-Islamic stance, that's disappointing. Sure many aspects of the movie are dated as you rightly pointed out but it's still an amazing film (which they really don't make these days anymore).

[@jonathannewell7838]

This movie is timeless. It will always hold up, especially to those who love it. There is absolutely nothing, and I mean NOTHING, that will ever happen in the modern world that will take away from my enjoyment of this film.

[@Bozlee22]

Film holds up perfectly fine. The new Poosy generation need not watch

[@chance3611]

Hey where did you find the behind the scenes for this movie? Great video by the way.

[@doesitholdup]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed! I got the BTS footage from my Blu-ray set of the film series. You can find a lot of it on KZbin though.

[@wilmingtonlongman]

You're judging a forty year old film, that is a deliberate homage of seventy year old action films, by today's standards. The question is not whether it holds up or not. The question is, why are you asking? What is it about culture that has you believing this is the apex to align with? Fifty years from now, seventy years from now, if we're all still here, these times will be viewed as an ignorant past, too. What were we thinking? Well, that is what the archives are for. Nothing human is alien; anthropomorphize history ;)

[@tommyfoster8063]

I spent the whole video thinking this was an account with hundreads of thousands of subscribers but you’ve got 126?! 127 now ;) love the content

[@doesitholdup]

👆 top G right here

[@PeterJohnBolgert]

Nice balanced review!

[@grahamparr3933]

Yes.

[@ImtheHitcher]

The transcript from the meeting they had about Indy and Marion's relationship was fucking wild. What the actual fuck! EDIT: can you please do more old film reviews, and dig up this kind of dirt cause this is eye opening

[@fSebastianRe]

bro even though the script said that she is like 5 years younger then indy lol

[@rikk319]

@@fSebastianRe Where does it say she's 5 years younger? It's verified Indy is 36 in the film, ten years before he's 26...and she's saying "I was a child!" Honestly, just a punch in the face was going lightly, she obviously still had a thing for him, but would you be okay with your own daughter being a child and dating a 26 year old man? Don't be a hypocrite.

[@fSebastianRe]

@@rikk319 It says it in one of the scripts. And even if it is- 1) This was set in the 1930s and of course that's definitely never expectable however this was during the 1930s and society's changed. And also ITS A MOVIE. Of course if I had a daughter, I would definitely never allow her to date a late 20 year old man.

[@samcox2257]

The actor translating the headpiece to the staff of Ra is Jewish. How is that whiteface?

[@WilliamTheMovieFan]

I always find it interesting when people point out that western historians and archeologists have stolen things from other cultures and countries that, at the time, the same cultures didn’t have the means or interest to discover and preserve those artifacts. It’s a tricky thing that isn’t cut and dry. If western archeologists hadn’t saved artifacts, then they would have been destroyed by time, floods, war, etc, or just never found at all. When Isis was taking over Syria, they were destroying everything that didn’t fit into their societal and religious views. A radical Islamic group, Ansar Dine, also tried to destroy books and artifacts in Timbuktu, Mali, but archeologists, historians, and others saved most of them. Many shrines were destroyed Back in 2012, however.

[@nkcjulie]

So you want a 1981 movie set in 1936 to conform to 2022 mores. Do I have that correct?

[@doesitholdup]

Yes, that’s 100% the message of my video. You clearly were paying attention! Bravo!

[@nkcjulie]

@@doesitholdup That's about the most foolish thing I've heard in years. How about you subject Shakespeare to same standards. Or Chaucer. Or Milton, Or Vergil. It's makes just as much sense.

[@doesitholdup]

@@nkcjulie I was being sarcastic, my lord

[@nkcjulie]

@@doesitholdup In your reply or in your entire video? In either case, you failed.

[@maxbrazil3712]

I love the movie, even though the plot holes would swallow the Grand Canyon. The solid gold idol at the beginning would have weighed 80lbs, something a "professor" would have known. Indy's four hundred mile ocean voyage going undetected while sitting exposed on top of a German U-boat with no food and water is, well, on the same level as the "Crystal Skull" nuke blast.

[@adriancrook9094]

hold up?? This whole premise is flawed. It's set in 1936 -- it's a pre WWI period piece! It's authentic to the time, and that's all that matters.

[@coleparker]

Minor nit pick, typo I am sure, WWII

[@pathevermore3683]

it does not make the pattern less creepy, but in stevy's defense, he is still married to capshaw and they have like 6 kids.

[@thepodbaydoorshal]

Don't be silly. You don't hold this film up to the light, it holds YOU up to the light!

[@novaexpss]

You are right Guy, infact the Raiders has anything, if just title franchise, with The temple of doom and the Last Crusade....

[@Luka2000_]

Still my favorite movie ever made! Its just perfect the way it is and its still relevant to this day

[@JonathanGrandt]

Just mute this progressive kid and enjoy the visuals.

[@thecaliforniabruh1158]

People are so easily offended these days

[@doesitholdup]

Agreed

[@rikk319]

Seriously easily offended...you can see them whining all over these comments XD

[@az-kalaak6215]

honestly, in some country (including mine) a relationship between 15yo and 27yo is perfectly legal quite strange to see and often creepy, but legal keep in mind the relationship in the movie is not portrayed as "normal", she does insult him a lot, saying she was too young to realise he was toying with her and sadly, I have to remind people that dark romance exists and is top-seller in books towards women (movies too), meaning this type of relationship is the most prefered one of typical women in fiction

[@HatsCaliber]

The only real "culture shock" I experienced was the age difference between Indy and Marion (though I think it served well in making Indy a flawed and morally skewed character like Belloq, which adds to that "we're not so different" scene) and the CGI. As for countries "stealing" artifacts from one another, were it not for the efforts and financial backing of the likes of the British Crown many of these artifacts might have been lost to time, either never found or even destroyed. I'd say they're far more valuable as pieces of human history to be studied and preserved than items of nationalistic pride. And it's not that they can't be both, but if it were up to me I'd first consider whether or not the museums asking for these relics are the best places to house them as some are either in or near hostile territories where they risk getting damaged or even **puts on sunglasses** raided. But as you said, it's not so much a question of "is it objectively/subjectively right" as it is "will the modern masses be comfortable".

[@fSebastianRe]

bro even though the script said that she is like 5 years younger then indy lol

[@CreativeCache101]

there's not really any CGI in the film

[@HatsCaliber]

@@CreativeCache101 The overlay/projection ghosts. I'm no film buff so I don't know the proper terminology.

[@MrNinetyFivePercent]

@@HatsCaliber Matt Paintings I think you mean.

[@HatsCaliber]

@@MrNinetyFivePercent Whatever it is they used that may be considered "dated" today.

[@wilhelmtheconquerer6214]

I think it holds up incredibly well. Yes, a few FX have aged worse than others, but it's nothing that takes you out pf the experience IMO. Regarding modern audiences, most people fail to see the past for what it is; both we as people and the tools at our disposal have evolved in the 40 years since the film was released and in the 80+ years from when it takes place. If it offends you, don't watch it and be happy for how far we've come. Otherwise, keep enjoying what you enjoy, as long as you understand that some of the stuff that wasn't a big deal before isn't okay anymore

[@professordogwood8985]

14:15 The Second Unit Director was Michael Moore. Fancy that, from Raiders to Bowling for Columbine.

[@mxmxpr]

Not the same person.

[@timetraveler7]

The film itself is definitely fun and well crafted, it has a good story, and the characters are still interesting just problematic. But some of the things presented, ie Marion being 15, is definitely creepy. But it's still undoubtedly one of my favourite movies.

[@thomasdematteo2281]

The movie is perfect it is modern movies that yet stand up to this one

[@1800astra]

Raiders of the Lost Ark in 2022 -The damning evidence against: "..and the fact that the lead character would definitely be rightly cancelled today for his relationship with Marion". If this is a critique of a 40-year old film, then literally everything made the day before yesterday is bound to fail the acid test. It's not enough that the *actors* have to hold the right opinion, it seems that the *characters* have to be beyond reproach, morally pure, and live their lives as all we enlightened Twenty-twenty types obviously do /s. What a load of horsesh!t.

[@tobiasfreitag2182]

My Personal take on the things that are not acceptable to modern audiences is that indys characters is a flawed one and this is what makes him such a great and relatable hero. He has done things that are wrong, by today's standards, by 80s standards and even by 1930s standards..... and he knows it.... but he keeps pushing it aside till these things catch up with him.... And isn't that like we all are? That makes him human and relatable. Superman is flawless but not relatable. Indy is there to inspire us to do what we deem to be the right thing no mater how flawed we are. Because if he can do better we can.

[@jjrbarnett]

Yes. Hereos, lead characters, protagonists are supposed to have a flaw. Bond is an alcoholic. Sherlock Holmes a drug addict. Other characters have vanity or pride blinding them.

[@jjrbarnett]

Oh Superman use to have more flaws. Red Sun would take away his power. In the beginning he couldn't fly, only leap tall buildings in a single bound.

[@blakeharris58]

I will watch this movie front to back every time. Also, I absolutely agree with the criticism that Indiana Jones has little to no bearing on the Nazi’s plans and truly only makes things worse.

[@iamahuman6402]

I don’t like the movie but that deleted scene criticism was a big stretch. I also don’t think stealing ancient artifacts is as bad as you think because nobody actually owns that stuff, the people who owned it have been dead for centuries. I don’t like the aesthetic. The contrast is too high. Indie himself doesn’t have that much depth, nor is there much thematic depth. The martial arts are badly choreographed. Practical stunts are good but they look awkwardly performed and they aren’t like Mission Impossible quality.

[@marpalafox7842]

This movie holds up a 100%. One of the best films to be ever created. Getting offended by it means . . . yea you know what it means.

[@dansdiscourse4957]

That discussion transcript...omg. It's just another reminder of how different that era was. Movie makers and movie goers had a very different stance on child sexuality than they do now. See also: Taxi Driver, Blue Lagoon, Pretty Baby, Wanda Nevada.

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

If you watch the films in chronological order It changes things a lot Temple of doom Raiders Last crusade It shows Indy grow from a guy doing it for fortune and glory to having a moral crusade against the nazis for the grail

[@markblum5059]

Kathleen Kennedy would say no.

[@rlkinnard]

Come on, even the title, Raiders of the Lost Ark, makes it clear that all these archeologists are somewhat disreputable planning on getting their hands on valuable things for their museums and to bolster their careers (though their museums are safer than those in the Middle East.). Dr. Jones is a throw back to Schlieman and the discovery of Troy rather than the careful archeology of the 2000s. You can still see what Dr. Jones' teachers lifted from the Middle East at the Oriental Institute in Chicago. Raiders is one of my ten favorite movies along with Vertigo, Pulp Fiction, 7 Samurai, Monty Python and the Holy Grail. As an action/adventure movie, it is at the head of its class.

[@paulom1622]

I'm sorry but this is not a movie review, you're saying "don't shoot the messenger" but this is not a message this is just pointing fingers for easy views and it's quite immature. I see that you've started recently so I don't want to shatter your ratings, I'm not an hater, I just give you one advice: "Forget about the gossip, and focus on the content" otherwise just call it "Theories and rumors about"

[@kthx1138]

"At this particular time and place and for my work, they (the Nazis) are necessary needles. They are not my friends." -Belloq

[@christophermacintyre5890]

I think he said "evils" not "needles".

[@kaydog2450]

It holds up just fine love the movies yes that includes indy 4 some parts might be frowned upon indiana jones was born in 1899 and marion was born in 1909 so young marion in love with indy and he never had interest in her and she just simply grew angry over time anyway great video

[@pedrosena8845]

Holy smokes, I can’t believe you have less than 500 subscribers!! What an amazing video!! I’ve always loved the indiana Jones movies but you did point out some really weird things I’ve never noticed before. (Fuck George Lucas) Thanks for the great content, can’t wait to see your take on the other Indy movies

[@johnmapesmusic]

If people find offense with films that were made before their time, it says nothing about the film and everything about the person.

[@doesitholdup]

You know what, you’re right. There’s simply never anything worthwhile to discuss about the way movies and culture change over time. Why bother? On an unrelated note, you wanna watch Song of the South with me later?

[@johnmapesmusic]

@@doesitholdup That 1940s film that centers on a white child during the reconstruction era who looks up to a black man as his father figure even when the boy is near death he calls out to uncle Remus instead of his own white father. It's actually a deep poignant surprisingly anti-racist film. But it didn't show the brutal horrors of that era even though it was a Disney film. I honestly think that film gets a bad rap. THAT would be a good Doesitholdup review!

[@davidg.8031]

The former relationship Indy had with Marion was always problematic, and that was the point. Indiana Jones is not a Rey Mary Sue. He is a flawed human being who is only the good guy because he is fighting the Nazis with a slightly better motivation than Belloq.

[@thewage7108]

I felt as though much of what you mentioned don’t really detract from the film at all. Sure, stuff like Indy’s relationship with Marion is weird as fuck, and the abundance of white actors playing south american or middle eastern characters might feel off, but it’s only weird if you go out of your way to research who is playing these characters. Alfred Molina for example is in the movie for like the first 10 minutes. He’s inconsequential. Also, the effects add to this film A LOT in my opinion. If this had modern visuals, half of the charm and atmosphere would go down the drain. It fits it perfectly. This is one of the best action movies of all time.

[@doesitholdup]

Thanks for checking out the video! I think your first sentence is my overall sentiment. Some aspects are dated, no two ways around it, but it’s still a masterpiece and always will be!

[@JunebugsAdventurechannel]

Hello, this was posted to reddit and that is where I found this video and your channel. Your video is very well produced and the audio quality is great. As to whether or not the film holds up well that's a different matter. I love this movie as so many people do and when viewed in context to common film making practices at the time the directors choice of actors for non-white roles is meh but really common for back then. It's very weird now but it just goes to show the new movie is a soulless cash grab so I'm not really surprised. Tropic Thunder is a modern movie that handled the topic best, the fact it's so stupid and problematic is the point of the role in that movie. I've always seen Indy as a grave robber on the more right side of history, he has an ounce of standards that keep him from being completely evil. He has always seemed like a pig though. The gross earlier relationship is what drives Marions anger towards him. The fact that relationship is more creepy and weird now sells her anger and mistrust even more. Honest question; should we shun and avoid an actors body of work if they are a shitty human being? What about the director or the original creator? Jk Rowling, Kevin Spacy, John Rhys-Davies, Mel Gibson. I can think of a bunch of shitty things from them as people, but Harry Potter is great, the Usual Suspects still slaps, Raiders rocks and Road warrior is rad. I don't have an answer to that question. On one hand I don't want to give shitty people a platform, on the other hand I try and separate the real person from the fiction.

[@doesitholdup]

Thanks for the comment, Merjot, glad you enjoyed the video! You definitely bring up a lot of really interesting points, a lot of complex ideas without simple answers, for sure. To answer your question on the proper protocol on separating art from artist, I'm not sure there is a perfect answer. I think it comes down to personal preference. One way to consider it though could be in relation to how much the person was solely involved with the project. For example, I don't think I personally would avoid watching a movie like Raiders just because it cast someone whose views I disagree with like Rhys-Davies because there's so much more to the film than just his role in it. The work put it by the writer, the director, the rest of the cast, the editors, the sound designers, the music, it's all much bigger than just one actor. In contrast, I personally could probably live with not buying another Harry Potter book, in that Rowling herself had significantly more of a role in it than in the previous example. In this case you'd be far more directly supporting her.

[@MrNinetyFivePercent]

Final mush up: Indy born 1899..Marion born 1909.. Raiders set 1936.. Indy =37 Marion =27 Ten years before Indy=27 Marion= 17 … Age of consent 16 (In Australia) Thus .. no prob ☺

[@doesitholdup]

I will say, the lengths people have gone through to justify grown adults sleeping with teenagers was not something I expected to see (very frequently) in these comments, but here we are.

[@MrNinetyFivePercent]

@@doesitholdup And here we are.. I’m not justifying anything, nor going to great lengths to make a point. I simply illustrate that in Australia it is legal. I am going by the laws of the country I was born in and live in.. Do I think it was wrong..from a moralistic point..absolutely.. However, I am simply stating the laws of Australia..and in Australia he has legally done nothing wrong, and that is what I was doing.

[@doesitholdup]

@@MrNinetyFivePercent Sorry. Wasn't trying to be combative with you specifically. Nowhere in the video do I discuss the legality of the situation, though, so I just didn't see a reason to bring it up other than it being some sort of justification for the behavior. If that's not what you're trying to do, no harm no foul! Thanks for checking out the video, cheers.

[@MrNinetyFivePercent]

@@doesitholdup No worries! I enjoy watching and listening to other people’s opinions on my favourite movies.. it really thinking differently about them. Keep up the great content..

[@christopherdavis8248]

dude! just found your channel!!!!! this is great stuff! subscriber #408

[@TheAdventurer1]

Im not concerned about any of your criticisms since the film is always enjoyable to watch - a real popcorn and coke movie that doesn't require deep thinking. As for the Marion age issue, at 15 she could have had a violent crush on Indy as many young girls of that age are prone to. They may have even kissed. That doesn't mean they had sex.

[@ssssssssssssssssss50]

Wheres the dog intro from?

[@doesitholdup]

Raiders of the Lost Bark! kzbin.info/www/bejne/barHc5qagZqFZpo