Does Reeves and Starmer economic growth plan make any sense?

[@foziyashaikh7134]

i remember this one time i felt like no matter what i did, people just didn’t notice me. i tried everything-confidence boosters, social tips, you name it-but nothing seemed to work. then i found this book, Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and it completely shifted how i saw myself. it’s not just about being noticed; it’s about understanding the energy you project. honestly, this book made all the difference for me. if you’ve ever felt invisible, you need to read it.

[@melissaclark5280]

Gillian Tett Nails it: Britain needs to learn how to HUSTLE. its so freaking true.

[@Jack-tk3ub]

What are animal spirits? Does that mean hope and pray for growth without any meaningful change? Until we fix inequality, we won't see any improvement. These two just want to let the sharks in to extract even more wealth from us...

[@PrivateAckbar]

It's a Keynesian phrase. It's nonsense.

[@persuademe]

City Group released a report called Trump 2.0 on january 21st 2025 which references "animal spirit" The term was originally from John Maynard Keynes. I can imagine whatever US lobbyists were at davos, have done the rounds and pushed that phrase and these people cluck like chickens as if hynotised 😂

[@andrewdaws7275]

All fine except for all those that hate progress, success, and Britain.

[@Bungle-UK]

Cut taxes and cut regulation to drive growth. Of course, Labour don’t understand that.

[@DG-ie5ip]

That makes sense to me as a Yank...look at the US and Trump understands that as so do "Majority of Americans" !! He is president ! The rich afford Electric cars but not average Americans..."Yes we can have both types of cars !!

[@creativeexistance]

An unfunded state works as well as a car with no gas 🤦‍♂️

[@plonk7]

40 years of "cut taxes and cut regulation" has led the UK into this dire situation. Contrast that to the post WWII growth that was during growing regulations and (relatively) high taxes. Post-2008 austerity was a terrible policy that only the UK followed. Brexit has created years of uncertainty, and thus poor investment, followed by the catastrophe of a hard-Brexit, further deterring investment, followed by Truss's disastrous budget. If cutting taxes and deregulation is the only answer then explain contemporary Nordic countries and post WWII Europe. The only beneficiaries of neoliberalism have been the top 10% and that is fast shifting to just the top 1%.

[@Bungle-UK]

@ given the tax burden is currently at its highest level ever since WW2, how does fit you ‘40 years of tax cuts’ narrative? Taxes have consistently risen since the 1990s

[@robinfaulkner9945]

@@plonk7the UK has super high taxes already. It’s driving a diaspora of those who have the means to leave. More taxes is undoubtedly going to bring down the amount of tax collected as the wealthy head for the door. A smaller government with well funded ministries is perhaps the best idea. I don’t know. But more taxes makes no sense

[@allykhan8594]

From bs to bs. Generally those who can leave are leaving. Contributing to a fair system is one thing, looking after those who have genuine needs is one thing, but being cash cows is ending.

[@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563]

Well, not giving a damn about their own people is something they've all got in common!🤦‍♀️

[@DG-ie5ip]

Sit in the back of the bus and whine....or get a front seat with a clear view ! The UK prospered and grew because they "Fought and spoke up...loud and clear" (history is clearly written on this subject for the UK)...Germany is experiencing the same issue. Be passive and liberal (American rejected Biden for this very reason) or "back the hard choices of change"...and that was unanimously "Trump" !! for us..

[@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563]

@DG-ie5ip I think I touched a nerve of ignorance. I have my opinion.

[@PhillCurtis]

Labour spent years waiting in the wings. I would have liked to see them seriously deliver on the right messaging and have a plan for attracting business. We are far from "cool britania" There is nothing about reeves and starmer that is cool. It's a joke. And we have NIMBYs throughout this country saying no to every idea. This country is stagnating. Wake up labour!

[@hourbee5535]

This is pathetic 😂

[@rohay77]

Could these two be any further down the neoliberal rabbit hole! Better to increase VAT or PAYE, both taxes that hit the poorest and lowest paid the hardest. Where an employer Nic increase of 1.1% is being made into the end of the world. Business has been on a golden pedestal for so long, they have not been paying their way for so long, it’s a shock to them.

[@allykhan8594]

Don't worry! No one has to pay if they are get sacked or leave, either party. Enjoy your choices, don't cry.

[@josephmiller954]

Who are these clowns and why isnt Gary Stevenson on here.

[@rigsta]

What an utterly surreal conversation. If you must insist on using a phrase apparently borrowed from the nearest available stoner, maybe explain what it means right at the start? You know, for the proles in the audience who weren't invited to Davos or wherever this absurd buzzword was spawned.

[@earnestequivocation6250]

Simplistic superficial Cult of Personality is so dangerous.

[@BonaNitooo]

So depressing that they came up with "animal spirits" and went, "that's it. That's what we go with".

[@hydrated101-zy3pf]

They did not come up with it. Baron Keynes did.

[@BonaNitooo]

@ “Baron” 😂 I didn’t know who you meant at first. Tell me you’re a boot licker without telling me you’re a boot licker lol

[@pete__wild]

So you’ve got an ex Tory and a Trump supporter to interview 😂

[@lorraine1651]

Christ on a bike... How many times do they say "animal spirits"?

[@MLahooti]

Thank you for sharing :)

[@tezzachannel2193]

maybe your guys don't need reeves and starmer 😂

[@advocate1563]

Sadly it doessn't.make any sense. For example, south east infrastructure whilst Rayner's housing targets show no uplift. In London. They aren't joiming the dots. Moreover.this investment will take 10 years plus to arrive. Liebour's problems are incoming in 2025. A calamitous budget with Rayner's worker and tenants rights just.round the corner is.going.to disimprove.the.short term. Happy to be proved wrong.

[@gorgu08]

Utter pish many countries afford to treat workers with respect and don’t exploit them with zero hours contracts, having emigrated to Australia from the UK we force employer to pay all employees 12% over and above their base salary into a private pension fund, the UK and both of these bean counters on this channel, simply don’t believe in investment….investment in people, investment in infrastructure, investment in growth generators, it is only risk that generated reward and the treasury have for far too long constrained growth and progression

[@VipulbhaiTaviyad-fn3wo]

one night i was scrolling through my phone, feeling like i’d never figure out why some people just seem so magnetic. then i came across this book, Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and something about it caught my attention. reading it was like turning on a light in a dark room. it’s not about pretending to be someone you’re not; it’s about unlocking the energy you already have. trust me, this book is worth every page

[@Kicklighter.A]

Labour are utterly hopeless, the tragedy is that they are better than any of the alternatives.

[@eddieharris6004]

Whatever happened to 'levelling up the North'?

[@Kicklighter.A]

Lots of strong words and good ideas and that’s as far as it will go

[@dreamcat4]

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[@halcyon8280]

I wish they'd explain what they mean by animal spirits. Do they just mean people spending more money? Everyone I know doesn't have that much money to spend because it's sucked up by high mortgages, rent, bills, food bills etc. I kinda feel that unleashing animal spirits means more debt and richer people getting richer. If I'm wrong about that I wish they'd explain why.

[@hydrated101-zy3pf]

It's nonsense. It's the idea that business owners are irrational and are driven by emotion, therefore if the government talks up the economy people will invest just for that reason.

[@PappiSingh-q7y]

i remember feeling like i was always the one fading into the background while others stood out effortlessly. it was frustrating and made me doubt myself a lot. then i came across this book, Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and it showed me things i’d never even considered. it’s not just a self-help book; it’s like a guide to understanding your own energy and using it to connect with people. if you’ve ever felt like you’re not seen, this book might change everything.

[@robbaker1841]

What’s the point of this? Labour are a let down

[@cameronfateweaver2206]

Spirit animals?? Really??

[@longevity-u1z]

forgive me, but from a funding n environmental standpoint, would it not make more sense for students to stay at home and go to local universities, with respect, especially if the start-ups from Oxbridge r goin 2 the US?

[@BitcoinMining-k1s]

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[@BalancedBodyVibes]

Krishnan hows the economy in india

[@mabhughes65]

Seems animal spirit translates to destruction and base behaviour greed and self interest. So I guess the question becomes what’s in it for me and can I live with the cost to others.

[@JoelMcVeagh]

Im to this current Labour governments left... But it's really sad the general pessimistic sentiment everyone has. I would love for all these ideas actually to work. The attitude of general brits being ultra pessimists will be the downfall of the UK. We sadly have to embrace a part of the cringe patriotism the US has and businesses will grow and life will improve for people.

[@kevindare3113]

Your having a laugh

[@wreckgar23]

strength of the bear speed of the puma eyes of the hawk ears of the wolf Marshal BraveStarr's economic plan

[@jwillow2642]

ignoring the environment 😡 look at America

[@Cantmuskit]

Has Adolf inspired Tump? Yes indeed (if you are a true neo Nasi, reply with “Cry” so we know who you are.

[@westtxmutt]

Cry 😂

[@Cantmuskit]

@@westtxmutt Dont cry, you silly flap. Act.. go out and salute.

[@westtxmutt]

@@Cantmuskit TDS is strong in you. You edit you own comment after I commented. Seek help, son.

[@emmanuelminet1233]

Another London, South-East centric plan. I agree that innovation has lagged in European economies, but runways, new houses, and train tracks aren't gonna boost innovation and launch the next Deepseek, ChatGpt or Tesla...it completely lacks originality and really asks 'how much brainstorming has gone into this?'

[@drpammy7847]

Is asking labour to grow the economy like asking a mechanic to fix heart disease? A coalition with Kemi's One Nation would be better as they are better at economics & Labour is better at nhs..

[@brucebarnes2293]

What are you talking about animal spirts are you just making @#£! up now!?

[@hydrated101-zy3pf]

It's Keynesianism, which is basically the creationism of economics.

[@gorgu08]

No offence here but English people are generally demure, subtle, circumspect and reserved, even Boris was pompous and a bumbling buffoon, if you want someone with passion, aggression and animal spirits, then you probably have to look to one of the other UK nation to find that type….!

[@Kicklighter.A]

If that’s true then all the ex colonies can stop whinging that we floked them

[@tictoc5443]

🥱

[@swamirivers980]

Animal spirit as in Caligula and Nero, Hitler , Stalin and Mussolini.

[@DG-ie5ip]

Sit in the back of the bus and whine....or get a front seat with a clear view ! The UK prospered and grew because they "Fought and spoke up...loud and clear" (history is clearly written on this subject for the UK)...Germany is experiencing the same issue. Be passive and liberal (American rejected Biden for this very reason) or "back the hard choices of change"...and that was unanimously "Trump" !! for us. "Has change ever been easy ? "

[@chrisbarnsey8974]

🧹uk crime rate will drop and more jobs created as a entire industry/tourism grows and less wasted police officers less wasted prison space all for a plant which is nature which could help stabilise economy cannabis could help fix the UK bearing in mind we can't even keep prisoners in prison and from research cigarettes/alcohol are worse and they are legal even prescription medication comes with its side effects that can be way worse and people are already smoking cannabis in every village/town/city's all across the uk so why not make it work to your advantage and what are the uk saying that countries that have legalised are criminals ?