Does Superman and DC Hate Marvel?

[@basimali619]

It’s explained that the combination of the multiverses was having a negative impact on the mentality of superman, which is why pretty much everyone from dc is surprised at superman’s character. On marvel’s side, it was captain America going crazy, albeit to a *slightly* lesser extent than superman. Right before the multiverses split back, and before they fight krona, superman and captain America are at each other’s throats.

[@bronzetiger6360]

Exactly. Good to see that some of us ACTUALLY READ THE 📚 👍👍

[@Jor-On]

WTF was Superman on?!?!?! Bro was livid looking at Marvel.

[@basimali619]

He was literally hopped on multiversal clashing, if you know what I mean.

[@yarc9]

Only one is allowed to make fun of marvel is superman

[@Arvyn992]

To Superman the Heroes of Marvel is letting there Earth turning into a hell and he's pissed because the Marvel Heroes go to bed sleeping soundly as their world more or less burn

[@misters4022]

Superboy Prime: how ironic

[@YordkarYordkar]

Superman is pissed because the Avengers series outsold the entire dc universe.

[@matman329]

Captain America was also hating on the dc universe. It got explained that all the cosmic stuff was effecting those too

[@MrAlex-mu5mw]

Are you gonna make a marvel side of this video cause I wanna see how Marvel reacted to being in the DC universe and what was the response?

[@Prfinity]

Clark must have been homesick real quick that's wild

[@Hexlessness]

Superman's Roasts are peak

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Funniest thing about that crossover if you asked me is that right after Superman knocks Thor out the rest of the Avengers curbstomp Superman and he's not even fighting back

[@davidogundipe808]

And they get clapped by Aquaman in return.

[@l0sts0ul89]

​@@davidogundipe808 Damn

[@bronzetiger6360]

​@@davidogundipe808Please. He called a sea beast that "scattered them", nobody was hurt nor unconscious, and they quickly went to aid against the villains. If " Scattering " is beating someone, then Vision " Beat Wonder Woman when SHE was SCATTERED trying to Hold 🤔 him...See what I did there....But Superman was KNOCKED " The eff" OUT.😅

[@davidogundipe808]

​@@bronzetiger6360I smell bias, btw, I said clapped not scattered, or whatever it is you said.

[@warshallwathers7971]

Supes Issa good dude all around but when bro roasts someone or gets mad… he don’t hold back 💀

[@LumosTheromax]

Facts

[@MentalMachine]

They don't hate them, they just understand that Marvel is the little brother in the situation.

[@bronzetiger6360]

Not AT ALL. The Multiverse was unbalancing Clark AND Cap. After issue three they returned to normal. Superman even agreed that CAPTAIN AMERICA SHOULD LEAD THE ASSAULT FORCE. " Little Bro" my Ass,.They had the League yelling "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!😂😂

[@MentalMachine]

@@bronzetiger6360 lol captain America is badass

[@extrakt1559]

@@bronzetiger6360marvel characters are just remade DC characters the avengers are just they little brothers ☠️

[@Theflash355]

Good video goat! Quick quedtion is this run non-canon or canon?

[@Hunter-Vibe1]

Dude im also going to ask that question

[@theworstbox]

is it just me or does this say 1 day ago for everyone

[@basimali619]

It is, in the sense that it actually happened to marvel and the main dc universe of the time. It is the last crossover of marvel and dc

[@stepbro9042]

it just seems like DC is a lot simpler than Marvel, its heroes, and the villains and scenarios they face. Them being confused that their world is more fucked up makes sense, they have it easier. They're dealing with universal threats with a lot of heroes who can't even leave the planet

[@proper_836]

Maybe back then, but as of now, Marvel has even more impressive characters that face threats as big as DC, if not even more so

[@LumosTheromax]

Yo is that proper let’s gooo

[@VunderGuy]

Marvel isn't more complex and especially not more in-depth. Honestly, they're both pretty terrible nowadays, but in the context of this comic, Marvel's heroes and villains are pretty incompetent generally speaking, especially the heroes who spend more time fighting each other than fighting said villains who, despite the heroes constantly fighting each other, never seem to properly capitalize on it aside from Norman Osborne during the Dark Avengers era.

[@SolomonAD]

DC master race. Love that you provide content for the lanterns and not just DC. Been a hardcore DC fan for years but in particular green lantern. Finally caught up with the Dawn and so far from what I've read Hal has the best ongoing series.

[@LumosTheromax]

I would agree

[@Andrew-Bastin]

You know even though Superman was being influenced by multiverse shenanigans, he has a point, the Marvel heroes are kinda a mess with all the infighting and inefficiency, not to mention many of them are mentally unstable. Sure I guess that makes more sense”realistic” and “relatable” but still.

[@VunderGuy]

Realism is just dead on arrival, and relatable is an actual mind virus.

[@michaelvonerzfeind4688]

Tbh, I would love if you cover the Narvel side.

[@LumosTheromax]

You aren't the first person to ask me this so I might honestly do it

[@danielendless]

DC Writer: *reads that one Gwen Stacy and Norman Osborn* Also DC Writer:

[@Hunter-Vibe1]

I read that comic once Its funny how batman and captain america went toe toe and worked together lol Wait is he earth 0 sups ?

[@basimali619]

It’s post crisis superman, I believe.

[@LumosTheromax]

Yeah they blew up a universe or something when they did it was wild

[@araizashraf]

we need more of this savage superman lol

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Wait you're the comic plugs right hand man (Jobbers&Goons)?

[@LumosTheromax]

He and I are friends for sure

[@godslayer8894]

I'm just gonna say Lumos. You are the goat and I'll be here to watch every video you make You are truly my favorite power scaler

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks dude! I do a fun mesh of both power scaling and entertaining stuff Not too many power scalers drop a metal song about Hal Jordan’s losing his mind to parallax

[@LumosTheromax]

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[@godslayer8894]

@@LumosTheromax Yeah I am thinking about becoming a member too join the lumos gang also yeah nobody does that.

[@LumosTheromax]

@@godslayer8894 facts someone has to make that content! And it would be appreciated for sure!

[@jasonescalante3731]

It just sounds like who ever wrote it had a hard on for DC and used it as his platform to trash Marvel.

[@pauldareason]

no the writer loved both companies, its explained in story the heroes minds were effected.

[@jasonescalante3731]

@@pauldareason nah dude.. it’s hard trash. Gotta be willfully dense to believe the writer didn’t like DC more in this instance.

[@Nezxmi]

@@jasonescalante3731 The author prob did like DC more but pretty much everything said was still true, including the stuff about cosmology and scaling. The criticism of things like Latvia is also pretty valid, and GA is just that type of dude to talk trash, but other things like Supes being hypercritical is explained by the story. DC characters even disagree with Supes at times, like WW saying he is being "terribly uncharitable". It isn't really too unfair toward Marvel if you take it in good faith.

[@jasonescalante3731]

@@Nezxmi I understand what you’re saying. But to the average audience it feels like the author was pushing this agenda to undermine what the Marvel universe has gone thru; regardless of the poorly constructed cosmology.

[@l0sts0ul89]

​@@jasonescalante3731 don't marvel talks shit in their comic too

[@misters4022]

lmao cognitive dissonance at best by JL all marvel would have to comeback with is: "yeahhh....your bat cant handle a clown 💀🤣🤡"

[@SonicIsTheGoat14]

Superman shitting on Marvel because of him viewing Marvel being weak and small is the funniest thing I have ever seen 🤣

[@randomreactionstv2721]

Compared to DC marvel is weaker all the crossovers say it and if you read comics you would know and don’t be biased.

[@SonicIsTheGoat14]

@@randomreactionstv2721 Yeah I know. Without the crossovers, I personally believe Marvel is a bit larger, but I like DC more because it's easier to understand and Marvel's Cosmology is a mess right now.

[@randomreactionstv2721]

@@SonicIsTheGoat14 um they are both the same size but the DC omnivores is stronger then the marvel one that’s what I’m trying to say. But they are the same size.

[@SonicIsTheGoat14]

@@randomreactionstv2721 True

[@alkebulanawah4242]

Superman was on demon time

[@TheEmperorOfViltrum]

Superman talking like he bonded with Venom 💀

[@theboyofsteel528]

Great vid😊😊

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks 😁

[@theboyofsteel528]

@@LumosTheromax no problem 😊

[@SoraMatt]

There was a reason for this tho explained in the book: Superman and Captain America - being pinnacles of their respective universes - were most attuned TO their universes. DC and Marvel and not meant to collide or chaos unfolds as we see in the story. Literally the nature of the crisis itself is why Superman starts going sideways AS DOES Captain America, and the other heroes do call them out. So I never really took issue with it because even the characters themselves realize they were acting out of character due to this polarity shift and overcome it to win the day.

[@LumosTheromax]

The shift in polarity was just the last half as they were being merged and were affected Superman was genuinely saying that wack ass shit for half this run

[@SoraMatt]

​@LumosTheromax nah man, you can trace that back to the first issue cause it seems subtle at first but then it gets spelled out. Chekov's gun. And the characters mentioning "dude wtf?" Is the way of introducing something is wrong with Superman.

[@LumosTheromax]

@@SoraMatt nothing was affecting the heroes until the realities began merging which was affecting there mind There was nothing causing them to get mind haxxed until then It’s a case of crossover heroes fighting on another

[@tsukune2910]

Superman calling marvel characters dangerous psychopath’s when Batman is his best friend is funny. Like he is talking about marvel cities but isn’t Gotham litteraly a cesspool of filth and crime…..AND ISNT LEX THE PRESIDENT?!?!? Which is arguably worse then having doom run your county Lmao. Both marvel and DC are a bunch of crazies

[@user-lp8im7ow8s]

Compared to Marvels New York , Gotham is heaven . Lex Luthor as President isn't worse than Lavteria as he doesn't want beef with anyone but Superman , he won't really try anything not related to Superman + it'll be short lived. You think Batman's a greater sociopath than Deadpool and Punisher? Moon Knight ?

[@tsukune2910]

@@user-lp8im7ow8s Gotham is litteraly shown and stated to be the worst of the worst. Daily living conditions in marvel New York is a 100% better then living in Gotham. You can see this in any spider man issue. They let the joker run around…..which is called out and scrutinized in the canon Lex luthor issues with supes consistently ends up dragging in the world and population around him. Acting like lex Dosent consistently operate and corruption and ruin lives is wrong. Doom actually cares about his citizens and country. Lex is not a more caring or just ruler then doom in the slightest….. Yes, punisher shoots people but Batman makes contengeny plans for ever single possible scenario. Even pre planning on how to kill his friends if necessary. He trains little boys to go fight horrors with him. Batman is canonically unhinged just like the people you named and is litteraly walking on a line of just being crazy. He litteraly Dosent know the real him anymore just like moon knight lol. This wasn’t supposed to be a debate about who’s worse lol I was saying Superman was a hypocrite cause dc is similitude of control

[@l0sts0ul89]

Let's not pretend Marvel New York isn't any better at least Gotham only has 5 people for 1 city, how many heros are in New York? Hundreds of em yet Spider-man is still getting bullied every other week with no one to help him.

[@yarc9]

@@tsukune2910Gotham and New York City are literally same thing

[@TheEmperorOfViltrum]

@@tsukune2910dawg living in NYC in Marvel is a literal death sentence as it’s filled to the brim with psychotic mass murdering supervillains. Meanwhile Gotham only has like a couple of monsters and only humans who run rampant.

[@mcpics4448]

Marvel Heroes clap back would be like: _well we don't have a fancy reset button to take care of things_ lol

[@kenj0165]

And most Marvel heroes aren't born with godlike power from the get-go or near perfect people

[@VunderGuy]

No, they just prefer to hide their ret-cons generally out of cowardice aside from whichever one ended the Ultimate Universe and brought Miles Morales into 616 cannon.

[@VunderGuy]

@@kenj0165 You don't have to be near perfect to be a hero, you just have to be good enough, and sadly, most marvel 'heroes' aren't even good enough nowadays.

[@kenj0165]

@VunderGuy I didn't say you had to be near perfect to be a hero just that most DC heroes are, as for Marvel heroes not acting like heroes is more of a comic industry problem as a whole than only Marvel

[@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch]

The justice League vs avengers crossover next look funny

[@lukkaredwolf3534]

DC has always been rose colored glasses view of how humanity would react to supes. Supermans reaction to Marvel is just a prime example of this. How many times has downtown Metropolis been destroyed because someone wants a grudge match with Clark Sue? At least Marvel _sometimes_ shows the fallout to the regular man, and not just the hero/villian community.

[@l0sts0ul89]

How many times has New York been invaded when there are hundreds of heros in New York? Spider-Man can't call a single X MEN for help?

[@juanharofloresmedia]

This content is always bangers🔥

[@LumosTheromax]

Thanks dude

[@sleepinonmid9094]

Why was superman out of character??

[@LumosTheromax]

If I saw the shit that happens in marvel and was Superman I’d probably be the same Towards the end he was having issues due to the combination stuff

[@sleepinonmid9094]

@@LumosTheromax oh ok makes sense

[@l0sts0ul89]

What id do for a 2024 DC Vs Marvel comic or even game, id be the biggest thing ever (if its good)

[@DS-po6zd]

Based Superman.

[@danielendless]

Isn't this the Superman that got hentai'd by Venom? Nah he's a fraud, not the honored one, I don't claim him

[@basimali619]

This crossover is practically confirmed canon, unlike the other one, and judging by the long hair, superman may have been considerably weaker than normal in that crossover.

[@LumosTheromax]

Lol

[@justinmarch5095]

Superman was a menace. 😭

[@thabangpatiko9869]

Therapist :Savage superman doesn't exist

[@LumosTheromax]

Lmao

[@DontWorry-ooki]

Superman scared of Malekith, cope blue boy

[@MrFox64057]

Eh, never liked crossovers. They usually never make sense and people latch onto them for power scaling.

[@basimali619]

To be fair, at least we get direct fights between 2 characters. If the crossover is canon (like this one), then we have confirmation as to where characters stand against each other. If the crossover isn’t canon (Godzilla vs superman, the other marvel vs dc crossover, and maybe omni man vs supreme), then it’s still a fun fight and brings new perspectives to vs debates.

[@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch]

But Somme crossovers are just fun and great Like the Mask vs lobo Spiderman vs invincible and more

[@MrFox64057]

@@basimali619 no crossovers are canon and they're usually so far off the mark it's laughable

[@MrFox64057]

@@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watchI'm glad some people enjoy them but I don't have to like them

[@Bruh-wtf-did-i-just-watch]

I dont enjoy all​@@MrFox64057