Great video. It's a complicated topic. It's a pay to do better game at most and benefits of bounty and bond equipment are tank specific for fixing issues within that particular vehicle. The main benefit of food is that on most tier 8 tanks you can use food plus bond vents to get a good view range of 445m or better rather than just coated optics which is a one trick pony. Some tanks have focused bad stats that make them "balanced". One of my favourite tanks is the Lansen C, which has terrible gun handling so I had to stack IRM with Vstab to hit anything in terms of a medium range snapshot. The day I got bond vents and vstab on it along with a vstab directive I switched to a turbo in the mobility slot and got my first ace in the tank followed by 3MOE a short time later. If you want to do a proper test of the difference you should consider getting two premium tanks in a matching pair such as the Patriot, Scorpion G or the Gurad who have identical twins with and without special camo . Have one with all the best gear and one without and play them for 100 games each and compare stats such as MOE progress and such.
@KelvinSuddith2 жыл бұрын
Oh it hurts to hear that the 62A isn’t considered good anymore. I remember getting the 140, and everyone telling me I got the wrong one
@kawan3661 Жыл бұрын
because he exagerates A LOOOOT. T62A is very decent, he probably says this because overall it's considered to be the least efficient tier10 ruski medium.
@karolkilian24029 ай бұрын
I would like to see this kind of experiment with meta heavy tanks!!! I think, that it would show a significantly bigger difference.
@47streetcop96 Жыл бұрын
I have started only carrying standard rounds and normal HE to help grind credits up. I have found it makes me a more careful and cautious player. It really helps your aiming and also you quickly learn which of your guns have the worst in-recticle variations.
@zukiddox90642 жыл бұрын
Everything is about experience and skill. I started playing, when I was 11. I was bad as hell, but I was enjoying it, because I didn’t care. After like 5 years, I started to think, that I want to be better player, so I started watching youtubers/streamers to get better in the game. Now, after 9 years of playing it, I have around 3k wn8 and I can finally say, that I feel like I know how to play this game.
@diz-jx7cv2 жыл бұрын
Gold ammo does make the game a lot easier, especially for the T-54. with gold rounds you get an extra 100 pen.
@jonnsmith1802 жыл бұрын
Gold ammo just makes the T-54.
@michaelmichael81472 жыл бұрын
Max -- A thank you. I have been playing since August 2020. Today, I realized, I could use my E75 crew in my Lowe, because they are both Heavy Tanks, and one is Premium. Late to learn and understand, but alas, I know it now. You mentioned this in one of your recent videos posted in the last 6 weeks and I finally used and understand it. Thanks again.
@aaronpentith1302 жыл бұрын
Max, I couldn't agree more with everything you said. As with anything in life, experience is the key. I made the mistake of trying to run before I could walk when I started playing nearly 2 years ago & as a consequence my stats show that. Watching a lot of You Tube videos has helped. Your Grind series have helped me enormously. To see that it's not just me with ghost shells, games where you realise that your doomed and sessions where nothing works. I do feel that the present Meta of speed and DPM contributes to some people's need to go full gold and bonds. I've found my niche as a TD player (Over 50 and the reactions of a slug at times!) However the principles are the same, experience and playing to your Tanks strengths.
@gearedsteam1211 ай бұрын
"I dont really need to spam gold against an E50 (BOOM) but I will" :)
@darren36272 жыл бұрын
I can confirm the game is not pay to win, I have paid loads and I still lose all the time. If anything its pay to lose ;)
@AlexJacksonSmith Жыл бұрын
You could have a competition with places in a training room as "MAX's FANS" once a month,... you can teach people so much.
@kobathedread96492 жыл бұрын
Four good games Max leading to rather insightful 'take aways'. Thanks mate!
@rexmexzilla2 жыл бұрын
indeed experience is the key to playing for free in this game, wich is why as time passes, the game itself becomes brutal for new players that want to be f2p
@edwing1947 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this...very helpful
@AlexJacksonSmith Жыл бұрын
You know in the other more recent videos you said you have a problem with recording and frame drops, could it be you changed from FULL SCREEN to WINDOWED FULL SCREEN or the other way round. I find that sometimes the system does that without telling me. Especially if I switch windows when loading the login screen before I have connected... I get different quality with recording depending on that setting, so just a thought. Alex.,
@AlexJacksonSmith Жыл бұрын
You are simply superb at this game. Your temperament allows you to achieve. 3.8k and 1.4k with a
@johndbro12 жыл бұрын
okay, it's not "pay to win", it's "pay to increase your overall win rate". Imagine you have unlimited funds and your twin is penniless. Cruel, but whatever. You get a premium subscription, you buy various accellerators, premium tanks. You get to tier 10 faster, because you earn more xp. You can afford more gold ammo, because you earn extra credits. You can afford to buy equipment faster, you can afford to deploy food more often. Result: Your shots will be slightly more accurate than your twins. Your pen will be better. Your reload will be slightly faster. Your spotting will be slightly better, your camo will be slightly better. Your tank will be slightly faster. Your crews will gain skills faster, meaning you get sixth sense faster, you get camo/repair skills faster. And with unlimited gold, your crews will be better trained as you progress through the tank trees. it may only make a 1% difference, but you will have a slightly higher win rate than your penniless twin. And I suspect that it's probably more than 1% - because all the high-end players run food all the time, and they almost always have 5-7 skill crews in the tanks they're running on stream.
@johndbro12 жыл бұрын
oh, and you'll get to high-tier combat faster than your twin. which will be bad for you at first, but assuming you're both able to learn from your mistakes, you'll learn from the more subtle mistakes of tier 10, because you got there faster, and you can afford to play at tier 10 (because you earn more credits, because you have premium) . Meanwhile, your twin will have to spend more time at tiers 6-8 farming credits, which tends to not teach the most brutal lessons
@pmwrench2 жыл бұрын
Thanx Max great video... learnt alot
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
You might be a good player but are you good enough to get ace tanker on all tier 1 and 2 tanks?
@nuolis2 жыл бұрын
about my gold ammo setup=20 gold rounds if tank have enough bullets becouse you need enough ammo to kill few super strong tanks what you meet,you can also play without any gold rounds from tier5+ but you need some weakspot learning and flanking to pen weakspots and it can be more fun than just turning enemies into paper
@alangibbins6765 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video
@ThatAnnoyingGuyOnTheInternet2 жыл бұрын
Biggest difference is gold ammo, especially when you are are against a heavy and/or in a T8 against a T10. I have had a lot of situations in which I couldn't do anything because my standard pen wasn't enough. I could make an argument that food also makes difference if it allows you get 445+ view range so you can drop Optics for something else. Due to the innate RNG, it's hard to measure the value of equipment, consumables and other stuff in such a small sample size. Will better equipment, better crew and premium trinkets help you? Yes. Will that magically turn you into a purple demigod? No.
@garyhardison9265 Жыл бұрын
No doubt food gets you more assistance damage spotting and actually hitting your target and gold gets you more pens. I’ve had a lot of games where with gold ammo would’ve got me 1-2k more damage, if you’re trying to mark tanks your competitors are doing this
@shamsielshahar1202 жыл бұрын
It doesn't really make you better skill wise and experience wise, just makes a bit more advantageous. It's like you got hired right away in the company because some higher up knows you even though you're not the most skilled or have many experiences, if that makes sense. I don't know if this is a good analogy or not, hopefully it is.
@Eshelion2 жыл бұрын
Better would be probably: you got top spec notebook at your company while others got 5-year old. Will your applications load and process data faster? They will. Will that make you better or more efficient employer? Not necessarily. It only gives you chance to be more efficient (and in result, better).
@parsembleu2 жыл бұрын
It's worth seeing it! Can be mandatory before whining against the game. Here, as in most games, XP is one thing, experience is more.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
Why automatic fire extinguishers?
@Eshelion2 жыл бұрын
They made difference, but not that big what most ppl think. The biggest real difference is gold ammo (but using full gold is usually stupid idea, if the shell type is not just same type with bigger penetration value or apcr vs standard ap - exactly as you've mentioned, in many situations standard apcr is better to use than gold heat. Sometimes some equipment might work to players disadvantage too, like turbo and getting too far in because of that or starting fighting a bit too fast, before allies arrive into positions, making yourself only spotted target.
@pencilcase80682 жыл бұрын
I actually got the T62A and I am in love with the thing. best 6.1+ million credits i have ever spent
@Solarys_the_one2 жыл бұрын
thx for your awesome content, Max.
@WhoIsLOK2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but I gold ammo is very important for certain tanks like FV 4005 and e 100 just to name a few.
@KingTheShepherd Жыл бұрын
Bro I adore the T62A, I have my damage record and my highest wr. Let's bring back the T62A meta together my friend
@dptp9lf2 жыл бұрын
What mod(packs) has the silhouette of the enemy tanks when behind objects??? great video learning a lot.
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
That is just in the game by default. It’s in the settings somewhere
@dptp9lf2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxGamingFPS Wow that was easy... should learn.my settings and controls better
@bradlyfan Жыл бұрын
I like ap the most because of Normalization and spaced armor … every time I load gold too rng decides I’m going to completely miss my target
@dimbulb64432 жыл бұрын
I see one big flaw in the reasoning. You’re using a tank with decent AP penetration. When playing heavy tanks, especially, or medium tanks with subpar AP, gold shells make a huge difference.
@notarokescientist3003 Жыл бұрын
Love this content
@cardinalseven11682 жыл бұрын
great material !
@Dokdokhu2 жыл бұрын
Pay2win doesn't mean progress behind paywall but progress makes easier like premium time, prem tanks, gold conversions, battlepass etc. Free2play can access to them by grinding enough time. Premium shells cost a lot so needs more time just to grind credits thus gold spam is pay2win. Bond equipments and gold spam is just a greater multiplier of your skills. If you have zero skills, how many you multiply it, the results would still be zero. I created an alt account for recruit and gold spam at the last day, it does make difference as I need less care to aim. Very fun too. As f2p, I rather play with tier 8 prem tanks and also earn credits. 2 birds 1 stone 😂 and play kranvan in ranks. Still grinding kranvan and I had better overall stats than my average tanks. Basically: Skill > Meta Tank > Gold Spam > Bond Equipment
@neilwilliams46848 ай бұрын
I put full premium consumables on all my tanks except arties and I have over 300,000 000 credits in the bank. My trick is not to spam gold ammo except where it will really make a difference.
@khaledalhamdan26272 жыл бұрын
Keep it up max
@johndbro12 жыл бұрын
Also - FWIW - two games each isn't statistically significant - I would have played 30 in each configuration
@MrOddball1311 ай бұрын
Hi, Love the channel! I think I'm not alone in what I'm about to say. I'm a constant tomato because my eye-hand coordination is cr4p! It's not the tank, it's not the equipment it's not the ammo type! It's just my inability to put the reticule where I want it :( ............ Add to that my stupid errors in judgement death in game is almost a certainty 🙄😬
@umunchuuu31692 жыл бұрын
"Are you gonna notice it? You're not going to be firing all the time" then proceeds to shoot non-stop
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
KEKW you know what I mean though.
@nilly90552 жыл бұрын
@@MaxGamingFPS I don’t find it very KEKW Max - as a CC you should provide more accurate information to your viewers. Strive to be a creator like William “Quickybaby” Frampton - who never fails to deliver the most concise and up to date information for the WoT Community. Is Alpen also a part of your community? He’s just as misleading - can’t even 3 mark his Grille
@chlorinatedpvc66292 жыл бұрын
@@nilly9055 "strive to be like QB?" wait, is this irony? this has to be.
@KingTheShepherd Жыл бұрын
@@chlorinatedpvc6629I think it's irony because QB fnans never use the name William Frampton
@JJ-gn8px2 жыл бұрын
How much have you spent on this game? I was impatient and bought $20 free exp, it can be very tempting though
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
No clue
@coldblood06482 жыл бұрын
We miss you
@UmBongoInDeCongo2 жыл бұрын
I'm losing interest in this game, but I nothing I do matters. I only play well in defeats with bad teams and never seem to give match winning performances. It doesn't matter what I put in or on the tank the game will have decided before I start if I'm going to win or lose. Also very good point about dpm, I do love the use HE shells to get 4500 dpm suggestion from some other KZbinr. When the reality is how often do you get that amount of damage in a game let alone in 1 minute lol
@bendarmor122 жыл бұрын
We tend to forget Gold ammos are much faster, much accurate and tend to bounce less. That my friend alone can make a huge difference. Just imagine the other side shooting all basics his 5 shots would only get 2 pens while you in gold mostly will do.
@Dovakhin942 жыл бұрын
Have you played the Udes 15/16? Standard ammo 1000 mps speed gold ammo 800 mps speed 😂
@bendarmor122 жыл бұрын
@@Dovakhin94 We can count using our fingers the number of tanks that has slower gold ammo. If your standard is APCR would you like to have laser as gold that would be good.
@ArmitageShanks762 жыл бұрын
Good advice, I'm a rubbish player trying my best to learn the game through all the trolling and pressure to spend. Good to know its not completely necessary. I will keep ignoring the carrot dangling from the wargaming stick 😄
@JP-be9cx Жыл бұрын
at what mouse dpi you playing at?
@milanius62832 жыл бұрын
Benefit is much smaller for the best players and its small for the worst players. Its the mediocre average 49% player that knows a bit about the maps and the vision and detection mechanics and tank roles and such that would benefit from it. The worst player with a proper setup would also get some spotting assist he would never get with ordinary equipment and a 75% crew. So its not a linear thing. But to say it makes no difference is a blatant lie.
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
I never said it makes no difference.
@milanius62832 жыл бұрын
@@MaxGamingFPS You didn't, but this narrative that food and bond equipment don't make a difference is pushed by many people. One CC from Belgium would even go on long tirades and rants about it, but then 15 minutes later he would encounter an enemy with a fire extinguisher and would ridicule him for not using food and call the free to play player perma stunned as thats how he imagines playing without food( bonus two vents) feels.
@pencilcase80682 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting the T62A. I'm in desperate need of another tier 10 to earn bonds. I know it's bad but still
@rexmexzilla2 жыл бұрын
not that bad to be honest, just forgotten. the turret armor is really nice and has decent accuracy.
@Dokdokhu2 жыл бұрын
It's not that bad but there are better than it
@chiefkikyerass71882 жыл бұрын
It's not bad..MAX just sux
@camrenwick2 жыл бұрын
I actually do the opposite with fire ex, tool box and med kit. Fire ex small, as I rarely use it and often get set on fire when I'm almost dead anyway or the battle is almost over. So I don't want to just waste 20k on a auto-fire ex. The tool box and med kit, I have large for the passive bonuses. Again I very rarely need to use them early on in the game.
@Dovakhin942 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same here 🤘
@KingTheShepherd Жыл бұрын
You can get auto fire extinguishers for free. I have so many that as far as I remember usigg them I haven't paid for a single 1
@johnhall96952 жыл бұрын
I never used to carry any gold but now I usually take about ten on each tank
@amethin51112 жыл бұрын
should've done a comparison with zero equipment and no shells The free to play experience of wot
@yeet_the_heat63282 жыл бұрын
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@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
truE
@MrQwertyman1112 жыл бұрын
Agenda? Lulz. "Gold" ammo allows you to hit more spots on enemy tanks and have a chance to hit, which allows you to in both theory and practice to aim shorter and thus fire more often. Not to mention, that for certain tanks with certain guns you can pretty much overcome most enemies up front. Now, if you have 2 exactly same tanks with people of similar skill, the one shooting gold has higher chances of winning, because he doesn't have to mind as much where he shoots as the person shooting regular ammo. It's simple observations. And if you factor in stuff like... oh I don't know, better reload time, shorter aim time when needed, and boosted mobility or better vents boosting your crew skills in general? Like the stuff you can get for bonds earned in-game or bought for real money? Yeah, saying it doesn't matter is simply not true. Because at the end of the day, a large portion of the game is not skill based, but managed by calculation formulas on the servers. You have better stats in certain departments? You have higher chances, and statistically will perform better than people with worse stats. It's as simple as that, because it's simple math. And no, it won't be visible in a single game... assuming it would or even should is a strawman argument. All you need to do is listen to some content creators who ocasionally play on non-hardcore acounts. And guess what? Somehow they all say the difference is clear as day vs night. I like your content, but the argument "gold" makes no difference? Balls. Like that magical shot on the 277, right? :)
@myhatmyseat9924 Жыл бұрын
yep
@DanVerde2 жыл бұрын
It`s your credits do whatever you want with them! --- Seconds later kamikaze tank in front of him :))))
@Tomas-cg9ko2 жыл бұрын
As for me, noob player, thats doing 1000-2000 sometimes 3000 . For me big diferrence makes shell velocity, speed. 800m/s and 1200m/s is big difference game wise. 1500m/s is god mode. If u have fast shell velocity like 1200m/s atleast, RNG treats u better, just need to be fully aimed, but it shoots where u aimed at, point to point most of the time. Nothing more painfull can be then missed shot with a low shell velocity ammo... RNG treats u like shit then. For noob player mobility/camo and good gun - makes diferrence.
@ericolson66792 жыл бұрын
Wow- I'm surprised Max. 19:00-19:30; your fight with the Obj 140 was CLEARLY influenced by better ammo, better gun handling, better bloom reductions, better tank handling, better everything. To say that it's not seems disingenuous. I'm surprised that you would take this stance (that it makes only minor improvements at best). It turned, what would have been a struggle, into an easy take down for you. You made multiple pens through his turret, the last of which was through a small opening in the wreckage of a dead tank. APCR would not have performed NEARLY as well. You would have bounce several shots off of his turret, which may have given him the opportunity to relocate for a more advantageous position. I'm simply baffled by this stance. Please help me understand your reasoning for this, other than being a WG CC and feeling obligated...
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you are joking or not :D
@silutejega2 жыл бұрын
The 140 was going up the hill butt first, decreasing the angle of his turret roof armour, it probably was less than 200mm, and hitting the shots in this game is mostly RNG, hope this helps.Good vid,hate full gold spammers, especially top tier.
@Times_Ticking2 жыл бұрын
Gold rounds should be limited. Sorry, but they kind of diminish skills. Thanks for the video!
@chlorinatedpvc66292 жыл бұрын
are you from Kent?
@o_g_re_2 жыл бұрын
Well imho you picked the wrong tank to showcase the difference between standard and bond equipment as the t62a's gun already is very accurate. There are so many other tanks with wich you really feel an impact when using bond or bounty equipment
@o_g_re_2 жыл бұрын
to make it more precise, let's take a gun rammer for example.... 10% reduction is not worth it on a tank with 3 sec rld but it makes a rather huge difference on a tank with e.g. 21 sec rld ...
@Vincrand Жыл бұрын
@@o_g_re_ yet on a 3sec reload gun it's more useful.
@username6265 Жыл бұрын
I use my bounty equipment on my premium tanks so i can grind just a little faster credits😅
@jonnsmith1802 жыл бұрын
T-62A isnt good? Funny man. I run turbo, vstab and binos and average over 3k sniping. And the "pay-to-win" is more about premium tank sales than consumable usage.
@sassysaddles99812 жыл бұрын
Gold spam makes everything better
@playingwotnl2 жыл бұрын
I am a f2p player but I am very good compared to an average player. I think it's called experience in the game xD
@chiefkikyerass71882 жыл бұрын
1st off..any who says 62A is not really a good tank...says everything I need to know about your skill lvl..FACT
@matthewyang78932 жыл бұрын
I'm not playing this game. If you want an actual strategy game try HOI4... without the Wargambling.
@failp1ayer4352 жыл бұрын
You can amuse yourself as much as you want by thinking it's won't make a different by bringing better consumable and ammo etc everyone know the more credit you spend on tank the better matchmaking you get! Kappa
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
KEKW
@speciv91172 жыл бұрын
Gold, premium eq dosent make you better player. It makes expierenced players more efficient . Gold rounds have tendency to autobounce or heat to be absorbed by armor.
@rexmexzilla2 жыл бұрын
depends on the vehicle too. E100 with HEAT is a monster for example.
@speciv91172 жыл бұрын
@@rexmexzilla thats a fact 😅.
@ozzie88212 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍😎 🍺
@omarsaad5117 Жыл бұрын
Max you are wriggling and your aim is dead on his cupola..when i saw that i realized i have to improve my aiming skills alot 😮
@zCardwellz952 жыл бұрын
Skins = Wins, right?
@mr.jx5n3242 жыл бұрын
14:40 reminds me how two days ago i shot e100 rear (unangled, flush) with my leo 1 and it bounced off.. not gonna lie i was a molekule distance away from just simply altf4-ing & uninstalling this shit alltogether...
@Dovakhin942 жыл бұрын
Thats really bad. Yesterday I shot a Bourrasque with my T-103. It was a 130mm HE shell and it bounced..... Yes HE bounced
@mr.jx5n3242 жыл бұрын
@@Dovakhin94 at this point im just trying to realize that nothing in this game works as intended & it's pointless to expect it to work as intended & it's even more pointless to get angry bc of it
@alpen_15182 жыл бұрын
1 thing I don't understand is that people rather put themself in a disadvantage just because of stubborness. I agree that without "premium" ammo I wouldn't have achieved certain things but stuff like marking tanks still takes skill and experience and not just gold ammo.
@jonnsmith1802 жыл бұрын
Never use the term "skill" when talking WoT. Any game with a 25% RNG doesnt make for skill. Additionally, the intricacies of the MM put non paying players at a disadvantage. Yes, the MM is rigged...its expressly stated in WGs patent applications for 9 years running.
@alpen_15182 жыл бұрын
Can you prove it? Do you have access to any sort of information to that? Well, if thats the case explain people with 50k games, almost every premium tank in the game and they are still shit? The way you put it is pay and you'll get good at the game cause the mm will favor you and you'll get better automatically. If you can prove it with facts I'm gonna listen to you, but coming up with some assumptions that you've heard once is just stupid.
@KingTheShepherd Жыл бұрын
@@jonnsmith180can you link us those patent applications so that we read it for ourselves
@superidol15362 жыл бұрын
All of these shots that "don't make that big of a difference" are enough to change the course of any game,and we both know it.The conclusion is garbage.
@MaxGamingFPS2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, shots you would pen with standard rounds compared to premium rounds really change the outcome....
@chiefkikyerass71882 жыл бұрын
Your probably the same person who thinks win8= skill...NOT..the main object of the game is to max dmg..FACT...Would you rather do ZERO damage and win the game or 5k damage and loose?...who's the better player?...thought so
@Vincrand Жыл бұрын
Damage isn't a good indicator either.
@Inos74 Жыл бұрын
for my taste you are a farming to much... you do not care about winning... let others do the hard work