Doin' the Schengen Shuffle (live in Europe w/o a residency visa)

[@angiebee598]

As more countries join, it would be nice if they would extend the 90 days. It made more sense when there weren't as many, but of course some people would just park in one country.

[@kristofferholst6053]

Why? The Schengen agreement is made for the people who resides within Schengen. It was made for mobility for EU citizens. We can stay as we want.

[@michaelhall2709]

This is incredibly useful information. Depending on how things go in November (and perhaps irrespective of that), the thought of renting out my house and slow traveling for the next year or two sounds incredibly interesting. So glad I subscribed to your channel many months ago, and wish you both great success in your own travels.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Glad it was helpful! We totally understand! 👍

[@janefreeman995]

Croatia has also joined Shengen.... I used World Nomad insurance all last year... probably about the cheapest, well established for best coverage. I was doing back country treks, and it covers rescues. It will also fly folks back to country of origin in the event of an emergency. .. Andorra is also non schengen. However, it has entry/exit rules with france and spain to finesse.... if youre planning on having a stroke then France is best for that. They have it dialed in from transport to care so costs are kept down in a surprising way.... a delicious way to go.

[@sinnombre3855]

Yes, I have one of those stickers on my fridge on what to do in event of a stroke and right at the bottom it says "get to France!" 🤦‍♂

[@amyavalon9188]

Just want to say how grateful I am for the two of you and all your generous sharing. We start our adventure in a month! Have a great day!

[@georgedickens261]

Great tips as usual, Wow you guys are living the life!, when you're both much older you will look at each other & high five...knowing you did it!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Yes! Thank you! 😊

[@kennethkilpatrick3758]

Consider Georgia. They let you stay a year and then to renew just cross their border and back. Unlike Albania you can do that forever. They had a Harvard trained president who pushed.English so signs everywhere are in Englush. Makes it very simple to navigate. Good food and they're known for their wine. And the Caucuses are stunning mountains. Next door Armenia will give you 6 months.

[@Faithlovehope1]

Is it safe for children and affordable?

[@kennethkilpatrick3758]

I felt totally safe there and saw kids everywhere.

[@kennethkilpatrick3758]

And it's very affordable. Got a haircut there for the equivalent of $1.05 USD.

[@adrianog4148]

why not chechnia or dagestan?!😂

[@justbdsd4569]

So you can leave and return the next day?

[@skt1731]

Bravo Slow-travelers! Have a great seat here at home in Florida virtually experiencing your amazing travelogues .. treasure trove of information and tips .. more please 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Glad you like them!

[@DebSacha]

Great video. I imagine you mapped out your route? But 2 places non Europe nice to stay: Essouira Morocco is on the Atlantic & so great. I was there a few months. Easy.nice walking. Markets. Affordable. And ( I always mention) Fethiye Turkey. From London or elsewhere you fly to Dalaman. Then a cab to Fethiye. Warm in winter not hot. Greatest place. All 4 now.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Thanks for the tips!

[@Mexicobeanpole]

Thank you both!! Happy travels!!

[@MartyM-n6r]

Thank you for this! I emailed you about slow travel. This video is the perfect response.

[@MartyM-n6r]

To be clear, you also emailed back. 😊

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Glad to hear it!

[@eespinosa64]

Love this video. I plan to use the info here to start making plans. BTW, I didn't see a link for the Schengen calculator.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Great! Here’s the link: ameliaandjp.com/schengen

[@thetravelingkittens1393]

Thank you!! I’m starting my shuffle starting in October!!

[@belleslettres1]

I did the Schengen shuffle for a year and a half. I had moved to Lisbon expecting a visa (based on erroneous information). It took some finesse as I was traveling with a cat (who oddly loved to travel) and a dog. I haven’t done it since I got a Spanish then a French visa. Brexit no doubt makes travel with animals to the Uk more difficult, at least requiring new pet passports.

[@jerrygarcia4390]

Great content!!! Thank you 🙏 ❤

[@barthagaby1]

Oh, but you definitely want to spend Christmas in Romania. We have great foods and Bucharest has one of the nicest Christmas decorations in Europe. Also a big plus is fast internet and a lot of things to do.

[@harmlessgrey]

Thanks for the great information. The Schengen zone calculations can be tricky for sure.

[@jamesodonnell9172]

Following the winter sun: Morocco and Las Palmas, Gran Canaria. Las Palmas is a great city with lots of cultural music events, and the month-long Carnaval celebrations. Bus transportation is very cheap and goes everywhere. I hope you give it try.

[@maryjoan4128]

Research is Huge.. ☺️ i am always amazed people who do not research health care

[@terryroussel6060]

Great video. Much appreciated !

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Glad it was helpful!

[@judykinsman3258]

You guys are just the best! Love your videos. Thank you.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Thanks so much!

[@kasondaleigh]

Excellent advice. Thanks!

[@SabineWald_NowHere]

Great to come across your video this morning. I am doing the same pretty much, travelling around Europe since September last year. Unfortunately I overstayed Schengen area and am awaiting consequences. I am also in Montenegro for the past 3 weeks. Stayed in Herceg Novi, Budva, Ulcinj, Podgorica and now in Sutomore. Budget stays with a stove save monies. Glad to know that I've got someone like me travelling around who is in the same beautiful little country at the moment. Happy travels! :)

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Montenegro is beautiful!

[@SabineWald_NowHere]

@@AmeliaAndJP I forgot to say that you are making great videos and are most helpful to people who decide to travel a bit longer. It's all very confusing, even to some of European authorities and their people. I wish I came across this perfectly made video last year before I left Australia. Keep doing a great job but don't forget to enjoy yourselves as well. The best of luck to both!

[@karlsturzebecher9463]

Love your Channel! Thank you Karl

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for the Super Thanks! 🥳

[@livingworkingoutsidebox]

Thanks for sharing. Love the tax savings part for staying under 6 months.

[@eelfood]

You two look great 🌞🌞🌞

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Thank you!

[@liliherndz5792]

Enjoy and stay safe 👏🎉👏

[@bukuism]

Traveling with child.. staying in one place works for us as a homebase but we often leave to stay else where, explore other areas..

[@francesfarmer736]

I’m an Airbnber and I love it! I pick places that have kitchens to cook in and saves a lot of money bc I’m not eating out….

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Cooking saves a ton of money!

[@lisas44]

Thank you for the info!!

[@debbibreeling9399]

I am a new subscriber and love this video. A couple questions about video production: 1. are you shooting your own drone footage? Or are you accessing it from a library? 2. What video app are you using? Resolve?

[@AmeliaAndJP]

The aerial shots are from Story Blocks. I use FCPX.

[@Celestialkarma]

Thanks so much for sharing God bless

[@nadjagonzalez1832]

You guys inspire me. Right now we are ironing out some things and just starting this journey. I hope next year, only 6 mo away, we can get started with our slow travel. ❤😊

[@AmeliaAndJP]

That is awesome! Congrats!

[@user-pp3dl8id7r]

Excellent content

[@stevefoxg]

I think Turkiye is another great option. I had a very wet summer in Ireland and England last year! And next year we have have ETSIA. Though Turkiye has made Airbnb more limited now as I think they require the whole building to agree in some cases.

[@janethiggins2725]

We are preparing to slow travel and there is so much we need to figure our. That is why I was asking about the wifi.

[@fchas15]

Sorry, but Amelia is right about how to eat corn.

[@CafeLu]

Ha! Agree

[@kenmatthews46]

Good video.

[@photopro100]

These slow travel videos are great! By the way, the Nomad Capitalist will have their conference in Malaysia during September.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We are participating in that event as a panelist 👍

[@janethiggins2725]

Thank you always for the great information!! I have a question please :) Do you use the airbnd and hotels wifi service? Or do you have a portable wifi device that you use for the internet? Do you think a portable wifi device is necessary? Thank you!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We use the hotel and Airbnb WiFi. And sometimes go to coworking places if we need a faster connection.

[@janethiggins2725]

@AmeliaAndJP You're response is greatly appreciated 👏

[@suespencer6563]

BEST video! So much great, helpful info! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[@SenorJuan2023]

or you could live in Albania for 360 as an American and travel in Europe on the weekends.

[@photopro100]

That sounds good except becoming a tax resident.

[@SenorJuan2023]

@@photopro100 Albania has low taxes.

[@SenorJuan2023]

@@photopro100 That 360 days is on a tourist visa, by the way.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Very true!

[@lacha608]

The climate isn't that great for most of the year

[@nicolagomes5526]

I'm Malaysian living in Italy now. It's so nice to know you're going to Malaysia in Sept. Do enjoy the array of amazing food we are so blessed with in Malaysia. Plus point your dollar with stretch so much in Malaysia. Enjoy.

[@Booboonancy]

As the Schengen zone expands, it leaves fewer countries close by to dip in and out. That’s sad and I hope they will eventually extend the 90 days to maybe 180 ? Or at least make it fairly straightforward to extend another 90 days, like Mexico and many South American countries.

[@videoeditoranimation1714]

Thanks guys! This video is so very important to me!

[@jimb8987]

Sure love watching your channel! Do you think you will try to stay in Europe permanently? Thanks !!!

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Probably not. We still prefer Ecuador and Latin America in general. Not nearly as crowded and the weather is better.

[@friscoeddie3223]

Looking forward to your Malaysia trip. Safe travel.

[@allanhfchin]

I love these kinds of visa hacks! I used a somewhat similar hack which parlayed a short stay into two whole years (2018-19) in Poland, where I was doing volunteer work. I discovered the Poland-US bilateral agreement from 1991 that still works outside of the Schengen rules even after they joined Schengen. I had no idea about this before coming to Poland, so it was a very pleasant surprise. So basically what I did was to spend a long weekend in Ukraine every 85 days or so and get my passport stamped every time, and I never had a problem. The only trick was keeping track of which 90-day period I was in to be able to travel to the rest of the Schengen area until the next 180-day period. But I hear that all this might change soon...

[@hipreference]

Ahh the good ole' Schengen Shuffle method. So glad I really dug into my genealogy to find that I actually qualify for Citizenship by Descent in the EU, that way I don't have to deal with the hassle and evacuate the country. Always check your family tree! Uncover every avenue! You never know! A lot more Americans who have ancestors that immigrated from Europe would qualify for CBD than you would think!

[@LilyandMe.]

Where can a person get started with this? Everytime I have tried to ask questions, I get bombarded with scam companies promising to arrange everything for thousands of dollars.

[@shetaz905]

Good to know! My grandfather came to the US from the Netherlands. Perhaps I have a chance there.

[@rklight33]

If one’s ancestors all came over from Europe in the 19th century, then forget it.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Congrats! I wish we qualified for CBD but neither of us do 😭

[@fireflyrobert]

You are correct! As a Brit I am thankful my paternal grandmother was Irish so when Brexit was looming I got my Irish (EU) passport which is what I use for travel now. It took about 6 months to get it but having done years of family tree research I already had the required documents. I think I had to pay around 200 euros to apply and then about another 80 euros for the passport. It was certainly worth the effort.

[@KARW37]

I am trying for Albania and eventually long stay visa in Germany.

[@growintheglass]

Excellent content, as usual

[@houseofroos]

Thanks for the tips !!!

[@marcelamaria4205]

Great work guys!!❤

[@CafeLu]

Great tips !

[@rajjohri8547]

@5:44 which city is this ?

[@paulpenn5338]

Great time you are having in Europe. Could you tell us how much are spending overall monthly including restaurants, air-bnb , global health care, etc. Must be a lot more than places like Vietnam.

[@MrJx4000]

Very confusing but this is a start (i.e., knowing that it's confusing ;-)

[@jb-qi8fz]

Wish I could suggest that you add Ukraine to your travels, but, oh well, hopefully someday.

[@ceeIoc]

Are you allowed to work remotely while doing the shuffle? I heard it was illegal.

[@Jamie-dz8dg]

Going to Malaysia...Nomad Capitalist loves Kuala Lumpur

[@davidburnett372]

tried looking for the ABB link that you mentioned nothing came up on your website. Enjoyed your video as always.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

ameliaandjp.com/abb

[@smegheadish]

Will you folks return to Ecuador eventually, or are you exploring the possibly of relocating to Europe??

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Ecuador is still our permanent home. We’re going to share a life update soon 👍

[@mrpeel3239]

The rolling period is very important to understand. Ps No one on KZbin has discussed the bilateral treaty the US has with Poland. The 90 day clock RESTARTS when leaving Poland to a non-Schengen country. I have a copy of the treaty if you are interested in exploring this topic in a future video.

[@orlymarq6238]

Hello, is it possible to share roughly your expenses such as accommodations, food and traveling expenses? Thanks so much . Safe travel guys.

[@w8lvradio]

Where in Europe is the EASIEST and BEST place to retire?

[@nattm6553]

depends what you are after, beaches and sun, ultra modern living, culture, snow, etc..europe has it all over..its many countrys and cultures and languages

[@kamsable]

Great and very detailed advice! 🎉 Also, I appreciate the mics - sound way better! My biggest question every time I think about this slow travel approach is where I would actually stay for a month or so - Airbnbs are a bit pricey...

[@deebee2603]

There are hostels in Europe everywhere. You can go on to idealista and you might be surprised at short-term rental costs. Some are very affordable!

[@kamsable]

@@deebee2603 well... I tried but realized that the hostels are not for me. For some people - maybe.

[@DestinationRetirement]

Do you have a patreon that I could join? Love your content.

[@joanfelt8069]

Update re DR VISIT in Turkey . Cost $93 cardiology $110 Orthopaedic. Is it this past month Specialists Love following you both

[@tomwileyandlori-talkstory416]

I love this and we would love to do this too. One question...and you've probably been asked this before...what do you do for healthcare when you are not in Ecuador (since I know you are resdients of that country you have it there)? We Americans always have to think about it here in the states, but what about when you are slow traveling? Which company do you use for your international travel insurance and how much does it cost? Sorry for the long post. You guys are the fantastic! Thank you.

[@tomwileyandlori-talkstory416]

Oops!! I wrote too soon! Saw your response in video.

[@TheAuriconGroup]

Things have charged in Ecuador of late. What do you think of what has been going on in Ecuador? Are you still OK living part time in Ecuador? About where in Ecuador do you live? I lived in Ibarra for a few years and liked it. I did wish that the post office worked. But it did not when I lived in Ecuador so no Amazon. My friend who lives in Santiago Chile tells me that the the pot office & Amazon works just fine in Chile....

[@fluffy5534]

Greetings you two: Enjoyed your video. Will you please add Da Nang Vietnam to one of your destination? It is not crowded, has great beach and is very cheap. No visa needed to visit.

[@CaminoTurtle]

Question: How does the Schengen Zone handle things like cruises? Is it based on the country of embarkation or each of the ports?

[@timmaloney6441]

I'm hearing good things about Viet Nam . very affordable , Modern and safe .

[@chrisr.3147]

So you had to leave on Jan 18, 2024, so you started traveling in the Schengen in Oct 18, 2023?

[@michealjoseph9943]

Is Andorra an option to go to in Western Europe? I see on-line that it is neither Schengen nor part of the EU.

[@supermario927]

hello, is there a site or service to find mid-term rentals that'd fall between the short-term one would find in airbnb etc and a regular long-term rental offered by a local company. I know one can find them at airbnb but it can be expensive

[@brettfairweather5609]

Amelia is blasphemous corn IS side to side ONLY 😳😱🤣

[@timothytibbits7942]

Can anyone explain why all these countries think they will be somehow better off if tourist spend less time there. Certainly, they can and should be able to expell any foreigner if they are trouble but just limiting everyone's time as a guest doesn't make any sense to me. I'm referring to all these countries joining the schengen zone.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We have the same question 🤷‍♂️

[@lacha608]

Maybe they are already up to their ears in tourists and this helps to limit it

[@timothytibbits7942]

@@lacha608 that may be true during the high tourist season in some places. I was in Split and Dubrovnik around the end of October 2022 and neither of those were busy. That would be interesting if any government was concerned more with the convenience of it's people than money.

[@sinnombre3855]

Do you open your home indefinitely to any guests you have over?

[@timothytibbits7942]

@@sinnombre3855 I don't charge my guests to stay. If they pay me enough, they can stay as long as they want.

[@christianc9894]

Morocco is in Africa, not in Europe.

[@thetravelingkittens1393]

What is the benefit of the countries joining the Schengen ??

[@topper45]

You can travel across country borders freely without having to show a passport.

[@markmark35]

This shuffle makes staying expensive.

[@stuckinchaselandia6427]

If you have 2 passports can you simply enter on day 91 using the other passport?

[@boodori1210]

@@stuckinchaselandia6427 no

[@CharlesMuccia]

Last time I checked, a nice Airbnb was not that cheap, and after you add in the cost of air and ground transportation, I'm not seeing how this is an affordable way to live. But then again, my budget considerations are probably much lower than you two and most people watching this. I guess this is a great way to live, if you can make it work.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

One of our guest writers is slow traveling on a $1500 social security budget. He does house and pet sitting to minimize his housing costs and stays in each region as long as possible to minimize transportation costs. We’re spending a bit more because we want to see more of the world and we need fresh content for our channel. We don’t have a house payment or cars and we live frugally so we have a bigger budget.

[@virgloh8934]

Im a 70 yr old widow, if I had a wonderful travel partner I'd do this in a heartbeat..Guess I can dream..

[@AmeliaAndJP]

We know several women in their 60s 70s and even one in her 80s who live abroad and travel often 👍

[@divinaflamingarrow9556]

Instead look at women over 50 groups who travel together ❤️

[@hiddenriverarts]

I think a lot of older senior women have the same issue. Maybe partnering up with others is worth exploring? I'm in the same situation, and am the same age as you!

[@cherischluter72]

I’m 62 years old woman and also would love a travel partner.

[@MrGeor1983]

Europe should close any visa loopholes. It should be 180 days max for every 360 days

[@topper45]

90 days in every 180 days is already the same as 180 days in 360, right?

[@MrGeor1983]

@@topper45yes only if it is for tourism. The KZbinrs in this video admittedly said that the work remotely . This is in violation of the visa.

[@lauragreeley4129]

I heard that as of January 2024, Americans can only stay in Albania for 90 days without a visa. 🤷‍♀️

[@AmeliaAndJP]

That is not correct. Not sure how that rumor got started.

[@lauragreeley4129]

Thank you! ​@@AmeliaAndJP

[@andiea5743]

Your Live Abroad Toolkit link is broken.

[@AmeliaAndJP]

Here’s the link: ameliaandjp.com/newsletter/

[@SandraLee-ix2qd]

Careful of all thos hiden cameras in the airbnbs. Your bathromm habits and frisky activity may be streamed online.

[@annahopp]

My version with dual citizenship would be to do the Shengen Tax Shuffle - stay less than 180 days in any country to avoid becoming a tax resident.

[@kellystoner277]

Italia is beyond beyond. Its gorgeous, obviously, and it is so foreign in so many ways to the USA. Maybe if you are in larger towns the whole place does not shut down from noon to 3 or 4? How does anything get done over there? Slowly... Thats how! Can you imagine the contractors start at 8am, working on your house, then go away for 3 to 4 hours, then what? Come back at 4+ and work till when? Dark? In the winter that would be around 5! Maybe certain trades keep working? But then, the rest of the town will be pretty pissed with power tools going during their siesta! You really dont hear or see much about reality in youtube videos about Italy. From what I have seen, there is an incredible amount of beaureacratic red tape and just plain corruption all over the entire country. Then, there is that whole Mafia thing... 20% to 50% income tax rates. As an individual, foreigner, you need $3,300 per month income and $35k in an Italian bank account to live there full time. So, what a lot of Americans do, is live in Italy for 6 months, and the USA for 6 months. So, you pay cash for a cheap home there, so no rent cost, ok? But, you cannot get an Italian driving license unless you are an Italian citizen and speak Italian at the B level, which is close to the fluent level. So, how do you get around without a car? Maybe day to day, you can survive in most places as the whole country is not setup only for automobile transportation. So, how much to rent a car per month? Petrol is $8/gal., Fiats, etc... are tiny, but what kinda mpg do they get? So many questions...😮