Doinb Annouces Retirement Due to T1 Destroying BLG

[@rocksycojeans]

"no solution, the enemy is LPL's father" lmao

[@BMWS1000RRR]

That is hilarious 😂

[@renkanestark6945]

not wrong lol

[@lebunny5998]

it's actually a slight mistranslation. it's more like "too bad, they are just LPL's father"

[@leelix8351]

Bow to your Father and masters Koreans . china is Great Han Koreas cultural colony

[@fobinc]

"There's no solution, that side has LPL's daddy/father" (referring to Faker) is what I heard, but whatever the message is received the same regardless.

[@iturnedmypikachuintoararecandy]

T1 winning Worlds is the biggest fck you to those who tried to destroy the org with DDOS.

[@vinitrout3679]

Yeah fuck them

[@daleryanaldover6545]

they got rekt in the end

[@S3tsuna1]

They've been Ddosing them for more than half the year and yet their teams still got clapped at the end LMAO

[@Souzz__]

😂 CINEMA 👏

[@Antoine-du5qo]

​@@S3tsuna1did ddosers also play at worlds or who are you referring to?

[@aname1190]

Idk how Faker does it his Galio E is so long. I feel like every time I play him my dash is shorter by an entire Teemo

[@coolstorybro9732]

by an entire teemo xD

[@Demoneye097]

He knows the range too well I keep getting amazed that his e hit

[@notmetho906]

Kaisa getting hit twice was criminal

[@mjbakermd414]

​@@coolstorybro9732 official unit of measurement btw 😂

[@arkabanerjee5389]

game 5 is always about who can get past the nerves(anyway none of us are in a position to judge any of the plays/players)

[@fluid3007]

"Tank galio even building deathcap fuck me" 😂😂

[@WInNKu]

This shit got me laugh so hard lmao

[@greensword02]

Only Faker built Deathcap in this tournament lol, 2 times he picked, 1st time he didn't finish it, the 2nd he finished and dealt massive dmg while tanking lol

[@oXOJakulagiOXo]

galio is strong because he can go tank and/or ap and it's not troll.

[@SpaghettiPlays]

im not saying yall are wrong but if you notice between the fight at the river - Knight uses the seeker's armguard part of Zhonyas, and that's why for the next fight he had to build the complete Zhonyas so he can get the active item. BUT faker doesnt use his armguard on that fight that's why he was free to build Deathcap because he still has the active. It's called gold efficiency. Instead of completing the Zhonyas and buying one NLR, he went full Death cap + Armguard

[@dothangbui4918]

even more ironic that dark tech doinb is saying this about someone playing galio

[@SpiceCh]

If the LPL throws out 80 % of its players every time they don't win Worlds, then it's no wonder why their sponsors only care about whether they win or not. Very few players could ever garner a fanbase in such an environment, meanwhile Rekkles is grossly inflating T1 Academy's viewership, not because he ever won Worlds, but because he has been a pro player for so long that everyone knows and adores him, even through bad seasons.

[@ridstock9663]

Chinese children (anyone under 18) can only play games for 3 hours a week, government oversite requires you to limit them to 1 hour on Friday nights and 2 over the weekend so no one coming up in Chinese league can even come close to the play hours of new Koreans or even Western talent. That along with the loss of financial investment will kill the LPL, that's why DoinB is talking about retiring.

[@sharpasacueball]

​@@ridstock9663Those kids just use their parents or cousins' id to play though

[@jackal-se9hr]

​@@sharpasacueballhahahahha this guy really thinks there isnt a stigma against gamers in china, its impossible to win against korea since korea its the only place where you can choose that career and not be laugh at by everyone.

[@sharpasacueball]

​@jackal-se9hr You are the one who knows nothing. Most parents in Korea would kick their kids out if they said they wanted to be a pro gamer. Once you get as big as a tier 1 pro gamer, then you get respect but otherwise, pro gaming is seen as a low tier job in Korea. It's literally the same energy as in China and Korean kids regularly play games they shouldn't be able to using their parent's id. This is the same case as in China and it is exaggerated by western media

[@sharpasacueball]

​@@jackal-se9hrStigma against gamers in China 😂. There's tons of gamer celebrities in China right now tf you on about

[@nhatduy9125]

Doinb slowly got bluetooth-traumatized by Faker LOL

[@alvinkartadinama5062]

like shanks's haki on Aramaki

[@Yumiesthetic]

zha blootoof deevaysh iz ridi tu per

[@alexandrugavanescu2981]

seems like he is more traumatized by LPL tho

[@nhatduy9125]

@@alexandrugavanescu2981 both Faker and LPL lmao,they are like "terrorists" for Doinb

[@Niichiro]

Which is funny because I don't think those two have even met on-stage. FPX dodged the SKT bullet last 2019 thanks to G2

[@StanTVXD]

Ngl in BLG defense The first team fight really does look like they are winning No one expect Faker flash It is crazy how Faker see every milisecond of opening

[@-B-HuynhTriNguyen]

Yeah people ve been shitting on their draft but the teamfight showed that they can definitely make that work out. Just a lil unfortunate

[@Wuteva-z7u]

That's why you can't make a mistake when faker is around, he'll take it 😂

[@GaoyuanFanboy123]

Even the second was easy win but they didnt respect galio dmg and tankiness. Doinb was saying they all dead. Not sure if faker even knew. The guy was prolly just in the zone and less scared than the younger players. fucking crazy

[@bootychamp]

I feel like people are/were just caught up in the moment watching and reacting, because Faker TP into the fight after it was over, full hp with sums, ult, and stopwatch. No one else but Elk had F and no one had R. If they didn't want to fight, they would have just retreated through mid into red jg. Faker was always going to look to Flash W Ahri or Jax, but Bin TP sold it and then Faker proceeded to bop Elk twice. I gotta say, I genuinely think it's Fakers experience more than anything won them those last 2 fights. Everyone made a misplay but Faker. Calm under pressure

[@xpeke2.027]

Knight was too excited during first fight. There was no reason for him to force that when jax was tping

[@Lunareil]

A lot of people find Doinb very polarising, but the stuff he says regarding LPL is no joke, and he's been in that environment for long enough that his words can't be taken lightly, even if they are exaggerated. Really concerning stuff if you're a fan of LPL, especially the individual players.

[@cap-ml7ky]

Damn... I thought esports was only struggling in the west. But if this is true then this goes beyond LPL imo, it'd hurt lolesports as a whole.

[@kayoom9613]

I personally think that the LPL has not done a good job marketing itself to the west. Yes, LCK has ZOFGK, Canyon, Showmaker, Zeka and plenty other world champions in their league but they also have a fantastic English production that attracts the attention of the west. Their casters have done a good job to bring up their rookies and showing their pride in them representing their region. The LPL also seems to have constant roster changes which doesn't help fans when they want to have a personal attachment to a team. For example, in the LCK, Faker is always associated with T1 and Showmaker is always associated with DK.

[@knad3]

relax lil bro worry about your life before you worry about the lpl lol, lpl are run by literal billionaires (suning group, invictus gaming etc.)

[@danielliang9266]

@@knad3 Clueless comment. It's not how much money they have, it's how much they're willing to invest.

[@Gineus124]

@@cap-ml7ky no worries dude, tencent runs this shit. brick by brick

[@pekorabestgirl543]

I don't think Doinb annouced HIS retirement. I think what he meant was most of the active players is going to be jobless because most of the team isn't willing to spent like they used to. The retirement ceremony he mention at 8:59 is not for himself, it is like the R.I.P for a current active players.

[@Gray.12]

yeah, the clip mentions that he's been preparing this year for a comeback next year. But LPL teams won't spend as much as you mentioned. Because of that, he's probably better off streaming since there's more money there compared to signing up for a team next year. But yeah, I also don't think he mentioned anything about retiring.

[@DeltaBun]

Yea, I forgot if it was him or Uzi saying that LPL will probably start training rookies in the future now that LPL hasn’t won a world’s trophy despite all the mega cash bags they’ve been giving to players there

[@jeffpulohanan9226]

No he meant that if the LPL loses viewership then he will too.

[@UnusGrunus]

he means retiring as a PRO, not as a streamer? i don't see how the video is wrong?

[@ning_ning04]

@@UnusGrunushe already retired as a pro basically so it’s still kinda baiting

[@meal4001]

Faker:"Stand proud, You are strong 👍"

[@ajwaddanwarr3409]

This was the most Sukuna Demon King run Faker has ever had, dude literally beat every good mid player to take back the crown, kinda wild

[@Mist.3]

@@ajwaddanwarr3409 everyone kept asking when Faker will retire and the talking about who will be next in line so Faker’s 2017 Galio had to comeback and tell everyone to sit the fck down coz he’s not going anywhere anytime soon.

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

​@@Mist.3 next to Faker? No one is even half of what Faker did for the league. No one came close. Caps is closer to Chovy than Chovy is to Faker.

[@talhakarsloglu4278]

@@fujisyusuuke1709 Yeah because Caps did more for the league than Chovy. Caps is better.

[@DeltaBun]

@@talhakarsloglu4278Nah, it’s cause neither has a world’s trophy 😂

[@itsyo42]

Faker has that Outcome Reversal Factor. When he engage in an unfavorable position, the enemy starts making sub optimal decisions leading to their failure

[@narutoshippuden9298]

True, like with sylas rakan ult engage from faker , seju could have stopped the play but did nothing

[@ironboy3245]

@@narutoshippuden9298 they expect him to fucking cook so they play like it, not knowing that he's just ballin

[@rayaqin]

@@narutoshippuden9298 seju ulted just missed

[@reginaldmustardbacon5866]

​@@rayaqinI thought he was just thinking Faker would dodge towards his team rather than go further into the enemy

[@unravel6189]

The funniest part is he's korean

[@chaerulchuluq5319]

lol, you're right

[@WInNKu]

I just realize it lol

[@Arsenal-Tengu]

lmao just realized this

[@maxwellrevels9007]

Bro I thought doinb was Chinese!!

[@roooo8327]

He was ostracized in Korea, had no place in the competitive scene there, moved to China and made his name there, even winning worlds and marrying a Chinese woman. No wonder why he's more affectionate to China than to Korea

[@Adp32306]

T1 effectively killed LPL these last 3 years at worlds. Rolled their best lineup JDG, then proved that 5 Chinese can't win

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

This aint CINEMA, its Kdrama

[@dunzhen]

BLG lineup is better than JDG, this is their best roster ever, exemplified by how they really made T1 work for it. Actually if Knight didn't troll, E-flash Xin Zhao missing, then instead of waiting for Bin TP to finish and slow-playing the situation just walks up to enemy team and d1es...they would've won the fight then got baron. Then maybe won

[@NoVisionGuy]

@@dunzhen yeah, but slip-ups are part of the game. If we make excuses to every mistake, then every team should've won.

[@LovelaceEC]

This 5 Chinese roster could've won the trophy against literally anybody else. it's unfortunate they were against T1

[@ZEKEEEQT]

​@@dunzhen no way you said BLG roster is better than JDG 😂 only better in the roster is bin lmao

[@jonjon7948]

Doinb has been in the scene for a while now, he definitely knows whats happening or going to happen. It was really sad to hear that he was practicing for his return, but then just saying he might not even be able to find a job next year. Im really hoping for the best for LPL players, I hope sponsors and teams did not completely lose hope in them and this is coming from a T1 Fan! There are many players in LPL whose passion still burns bright and I hope the scene can still realize that. Hoping for the best

[@knad3]

he can find a job, it's just that the salary will be too low for him to consider playing lol, doinb's streaming earnings in douyou are in the multi deca-millions, so dw about him, he's doing fine

[@jonjon7948]

@@knad3 ooh thank you for the insight! I really had no idea how well streaming does there. Atleast he will be stable.

[@TheWasd1234]

Doinb is only in it for the money. He can find a job easy! Its the salary he is greeding for. Sellout

[@Aphalanche]

Sponsors in china only cares one thing and that is money that they'll gather from it. They dont care about the players. Heck look at china's employment rate. It's going downhill that even someone committed not alive due to debts.

[@Jojifans]

in case you guys are unfamiliar, Doinb was convicted of owning illegal gambling sites in China and was sentenced to jail. He escaped to South Korea to avoid punishment, leaving behind his wife and recently borned child who's not allowed to move. If he ever return to pro, it's most likely going to be a LCK team.

[@TheWaugh751]

"The enemy is LPL's father" 💀💀💀

[@avareat1226]

Faker's Galio is just built different idk what to say, those two last fights in G5 are absolutely unreal from everyone on T1

[@luckasneo2089]

faker makes galio look hard to play lol

[@Siegram999]

@@luckasneo2089 i mean tbf galio does actually have some skill expression compared to his other easy to play peers.

[@brisankatarafder6395]

T1 at Worlds 2025: the sixth one is for LPL

[@BMWS1000RRR]

That's like making a woolen sweater for the sheep 😂

[@trh3xa174]

The 6th is for Doran

[@brisankatarafder6395]

@@trh3xa174 the guy who doesn't know how nunu works. Sure buddy sure

[@trh3xa174]

@@brisankatarafder6395 now he does. So what? Deft bought IE in Worlds 21at 40% crit. Zeka didn't even know you can choose who to ult with Yasuo. Faker fucked up his E-flash on Galio g5 vs knight. knight channeled tp in front of Keria's Poppy. Pros are humans that can be ignorant and make mistakes. Even Faker didnt know Smite has to be chosen and it doesn't do it for you. They had to remake the game cuz he didn't have smite.

[@Pikablessyouu]

Thanks for the translation, Totss! AI translation is used on numerous channels, but the wording is often incorrect. Unable to understand. Your channel is better!

[@MitsoSoup]

The sad thing is: You need a roster together 2-3 seasons before they can reach peak synergy, look at the years when T1 was swapping and trying new things. And now, we see peak synergy from T1's ZOFGK lineup. My point is, I believe doinb is telling the truth about LPL next year, which is sad bc it's the exact opposite of what you need to do in order to build the strongest possible teams in the LPL. I hope he's wrong, but something tells me that is going to be the case.

[@eFrog27]

This T1 roster had a perfect split in their first year. I don’t think you are right. This team was good from the start and that’s what all teams want to achieve Most orgs just don’t have a Faker to build around

[@MitsoSoup]

@eFrog27 Good from the start, yes. Great? No. If they were, the 2 peat would've happened earlier. My point remains: You want to give a team time to reach PEAK synergy... A lot of good teams NEVER get to reach that point bc of various reasons, which is sad. Obviously, having a Faker to build around makes it easier for T1 specifically, but even then, there were obstacles for them that they couldn't overcome. It takes a few seasons for players to reach that peak synergy, and that's my point really. It's sad that won't be the case for most LPL teams next year, which in turn delays improvement further, barring an exceptional roster

[@Yumiesthetic]

@@MitsoSoup yeah true, without faker, t1 crumbles just like how poby subbed faker and t1 just kept losing in the lck

[@MitsoSoup]

@Yumiesthetic True, but even with Faker they lost the finals to DRX at Worlds. Only after that year and more time together did they win back to back

[@huy5058]

@@MitsoSoup You don't call making Worlds Finals on the first year great? In a 5 game series nonetheless, I think you're taking away from them a little too much. This roster was extremely good for their first year, most teams would love to achieve what they did in their first year.

[@gigaflippz2551]

I love T1 and I’m happy for them but this is really sad for the LPL 😔 my heart goes out to Bin

[@alphaclusters4537]

I hope Bin will someday have his trophy. He fought well this game and he is also Faker's big fan.

[@bkapps19]

Yea, Bin, Chovy, and Knight are the three best players of today to have never won a trophy. Theyre each due 1 in the future

[@aria.e]

there's always next year

[@Blackvez20]

​@@aria.eUntil you realize that T1 might run it back again next year. And aim for a three peat.

[@spaceglidinmio2388]

@@bkapps19 you can't say that when Zeus, at 20, have 2 worlds tittle and won against Bin

[@jffgvzla]

Faker 2021: "4 rookies?. No prob, champs in a couple of years. I'll carry" Doinb 2024:"4rookies? Buahhhhh, I prefer to retire". And there you see the difference

[@tiagorita6809]

Faker makes a lot and has been playing in T1 for eleven years. See the difference?

[@itsmerota8523]

​@@tiagorita6809 true that

[@belldolphin5707]

Keria is not a rookie but I get your point.

[@mirzonex9045]

@@tiagorita6809 Its about the mindset lol. Doesn't matter how long you are playing the game.

[@SkiesWRLD]

You are right to some extent, faker is extremely strong mentally that he didn't retire during his low years, a true icon. But Faker is also a legacy player, he would never ever switch to another team, unless his organization goes bankrupt and they cant afford him anymore and at that point he might as well retire. You can easily tell Faker is different mentally, it's not normal for a human being to be so calm & collected during years of torment, cause that's what it was for him, everyone was saying he is washed, he should retire he is blemishing his history, etc. but in all those years his roster has had 0 synergy, it was mostly a one-man team which was faker, eventually he got the team of rookies he switched from being the main character to a support role midlaner, Faker is likely the only player in league of legends that plays midlane and also manages every lane, he doesn't play mid, he plays the entire map, without him T1 is headless, this is also why people say he has aged, etc. because he is not the eye-candy player anymore what he does is even more impressive behind the scenes but you can't see that at the surface level, people only realized his greatness when he was benched and it was revealed that Faker was the IGL the entire time. Faker effort, his sacrifice has finally been rewarded, they treated worlds as practice they lost but came back stronger, they replaced canna with zeus, teddy with gumayusi, their roster became even stronger, next year even stronger, they almost won worlds but they lost due to arrogance (T1 had this thing where they would play troll drafts against teams they consider weaker than them, they did this in finals against DRX they underestimated them and lost it all) next year they lost the arrogance and won worlds, and this year once again they won worlds.

[@mgsBicycleO9]

Bro is streaming straight from the trophy room lol

[@narutoshippuden9298]

In Chinese culture this common thing to do

[@feeshfly]

@@narutoshippuden9298 its not even a chinese culture thing, isnt it normal to display trophies you've rightfully earned through hard work? plus it makes a good backdrop for his streams lol

[@cerebra2276]

"Oner is dead, Oner is dead" >Oner gets a Triple Kill without even dropping below 80% health LMAO

[@mindcaztackerman1160]

Lpl will still invest next year cause they are the host for worlds next year.

[@prodbyzelkro]

yea, but not as much as the players and spectators would like. they will most likely redirect some of the funds to prepare for future world championships.

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

Worlds 2025 will be held on a cybercafe/PC bang in China with Scripts running on LPL computers just so they can win😂😂😂

[@erykaldo2l270]

​@@fujisyusuuke1709 Thats the only way they can win vs KR 😂

[@liqiye3611]

They owned Korea. The only team they cant win is T1 not korean . Last year and this year the lpl teams dominate top 4 ​@erykaldo2l270

[@sharpasacueball]

​@@fujisyusuuke1709Look at the Swiss stage this year. It was in a small studio 😂

[@inconvenientfacts58]

It's the same issue with the LCS, bad player mentality. In the LCK, when they slumped, when T1 slumped, they all worked extra hard to qualify for Worlds. Their back to back Worlds are very much deserved. Whereas it feels like the LPL is only there to make money. If they lose, they don't work hard, they don't rebuild, the players just go into streaming (just like the LCS). T1 is the prime example; they rebuilt entirely around Faker, who so many haters claim was washed after 2017. T1 players have an extremely busy schedule outside of their practice. They also got DDOS'ed so hard this past year. They still won Worlds. That's the mentality in the LCK as professional esports players.

[@ichigolo]

Thanks for posting and translating this i didnt think doinb was gonna address the state of lpl next season

[@Creek1575]

LPL's superteams are literally only failing against T1. That's just sad to think about.

[@zzephi]

3:00 is killing me 🤣 " Tank Galio is even building D cap, fuck me " and his face while saying it haha

[@johanntan86]

Guy is the ultimate content creator. His streams are really entertaining (especially the arc where his wife was monitoring him). 😂

[@nachuyachumi1771]

6:33 I really love this camera angle. You can see how fancy Keria's Rakan footwork is.

[@mastercrazy7724]

The translations are top tier

[@qwdddw]

Imo if LPL players will actually be replaced as DoinBee said, the salary will drop dramatically and I think it will ironically bring some positive effect on the entire league scene for the future since the salary is unbearably high for most orgs in major regions right now

[@hnd1305]

There is some truth in what he said but he is exaggerating it for attention like he always does.

[@furakiii]

This one I think it’s completely true due to few reason. China limited play time for underage so the upcoming player will be bad and less likely able to compete with lck. The next thing is salaries cap next year limit the amount of money investing in player unless they be like jdg, paid the fine to make their team but still lost to t1. As investor, ain’t no way they put million to not win world

[@hnd1305]

@furakiii I'm very hopeful bcs BLG all re-signed barring wei (sadly he is still on loan from RNG) TheShy is %98 coming back and most likely will play with Rookie. Shy is super popular and will increase viewership by A LOT. To add Team China recently won a little tournament against Korea 3-0. They're not atrocious. A lot of upcoming talent is already present in LPL Eg Milkyway, Ahn, Haichao, Sheer, 1xn etc The salary cap thing isn't gonna cause significant problems especially to huge teams like Jdg tes LNG. If LPL wins worlds next year they will be more relevant than ever bcs it's in china + 5 Chinese players. I'm trying to be as positive as possible but the fear mongering is mad rn lpl fans are a little dramatic lol

[@furakiii]

@@hnd1305 well just wait till next season but its true aint no way current chinese player go to western team or lck so they will probably stay. But other than that is pretty looming for lpl considering their best 5 chinese team lose to T1 and salary cap is a real thing considering the moment jdg lose to t1 , knight and 369 gone and they tried keep ruler for another season till he gone too.

[@TheClayKnight]

@@hnd1305 No one with a brain thinks the LPL lacks talented players (especially after how close this series was). The problem is that investors are looking for profit, and if they don't think they'll get it there won't be money to pay for these players. TheShy coming back will help with viewership to some extent, but I suspect unless viewership spontaneously improves the LPL will start to collapse without a worlds win next year.

[@blackhawk2671]

Look how they're rivals and they still cheer for each other and suffer with their losses, thats a part of why they're stronger as a region

[@itsmerota8523]

In Worlds T1 > LPL > LCK. This past 3 years is the evidence, don't underestimate T1 at Worlds somehow they will find a way to win.

[@raylitz1757]

Faker diff

[@hunglee7529]

Last year after the whole LCK last hope shenanigan, LPL's viewership tanked hard when no LPL team could even take T1 to game 5. Imagine the viewership this year... Doinb is right, the region despite being almost as competitive as LCK is dying

[@johnkirk1772]

viewership is up in 2024.. what are you even saying?

[@roooo8327]

​@@johnkirk1772LPL viewership increased in the top games, but tanked in the average games. Fewer games got over 1 mil views this year compared to 2023

[@wolfroarxx6055]

bro cant blame them, their teams are just weak compared to lck teams, yes they have good series but they always crumble under pressure... maybe its the meta?! bc lpl always does good at the msi, they have good players but its always talked about how chinese teams love to fight all the time while korean teams are more about the maps and take it slow. They need to find the common flaw and work it out if they wanna revive it-

[@chomosuke0720]

​@@wolfroarxx6055 this analogy doesn't even work with T1 they love fighting as much as the LPL does you're talking about GenG

[@ndnd7614]

@@wolfroarxx6055LPL last few years destroyed every team besides T1. This year LCK 1st seed got destroyed. It’s legit t1 > LPL > rest of LCK

[@BulbisaurousRex]

i cant help but feel bad for BLG and the LPL. they are consistently top 3 in the world but can never seem to close it out against T1 and the LCK.

[@zezenkop412]

This world and last one only t1 could beat lpl No other lck team would have beaten blg 2024 Or blg and jdg 2023 except one team t1

[@BulbisaurousRex]

@zezenkop412 damn good point I forgot about that, T1 is just different

[@wolfroarxx6055]

I think its part mental block and part the fact that T1 steps it up at worlds every single time. Playing against a name like Faker has to affect you somehow, Bin is a huge Faker stan. Plus you gotta step it up like them, if you play like all year even if you were good, that wont be enough.

[@ardianw8016]

Against LCK? LpL has been shitting on LCK expect T1

[@vinitrout3679]

​@@ardianw8016bro expect lol lmao

[@min-youngchung7485]

Negative reinforcement is never going to work. If you want a prodigy to be born to slay the Giants of Korea, you have to invest more.

[@EMan-hr5vf]

This is like when LeBron was owning the Raptors so bad they straight called him LeBronto. No matter what the LPL try they cannot beat him.

[@avocaza1393]

LeBron is overrated

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@avocaza1393 Not at all lmao, hes the one guy thats the complete opposite of overrated. Hes actually underrated and underappreciated. He should be faker status right now, but the NBA community is too hard headed and has way to much ego for that. They only give legends their flowers once they retire. Same stuff happened to kobe shaq and even MJ. Lebrons a living legend and i dont even like him like that. But who else is getting that highly praised in high school, extremely pressured by everyone around him and STILL taking teams with no business being in the playoffs there in his first years? Averaging 27 points a game in his first 3 years? Not to mention what he went on to do. He didnt choke, he actually exceeded his expectations by miles bro. You just never see that, and really that alone tells you how legendary he is. Dont even gotta talk about rings or longevity none of that

[@zabban]

@@WorldKeepsSpinnin tell me u are under 15 and never watched real nba with out telling me

[@WorldKeepsSpinnin]

@@zabban its literally fact u cant refute anything i said so dont speak lil bro

[@zabban]

@@WorldKeepsSpinnin right. Thats why your goat got schooled by a aging jason terry on his prime. THE GOAT ladys and gentlements. Clown

[@chavvobimbo5474]

ON's throw single handedly killed LPL viewership XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@linkasfd4295]

The real throw was Knight at dragon fight. Anyone with eyes can see that he completely inted that entire sequence. But we like Knight so he's safe

[@Noc25]

@@linkasfd4295 but on throw so often. his rell q never hit

[@liyuu7033]

​@@Noc25 tbf rell q is hard to hit, he keeps playing it lmao even keria wont play rell

[@Noc25]

@@liyuu7033 yeah but if he miss once in a while its okay. he almost always miss when it matter. when catching oner or faker for example

[@skrattaoppar9753]

Everyone played equally bad on that game 5. ON with the miss engage, Elk ulting Zeus in the last fight and then got bursted by both Zeus and Faker, Knight missing Flash charm and then being close to Faker at mid to be engaged. And don't even start at Knight TPing so close to Keria

[@androidoniichan2526]

DDoS-ing T1 and still managed to win both EWC and Worlds is like a Red Bull Challenge. This madasakas are insane!!!

[@mambaforever3239]

Winning worlds is an insane feat. You look at players like DoinB, Showmaker, Ruler, Deft then bro Holy Fk Faker has Five 😂😂😂😂 Truly the GOAT

[@HMSCheshire]

some point auther did not translate: 4:30 " in next year,will lpl be influenced by this?" "yeah ,absolutely". 4:40' i have feeled next year will be worse." 5:11" this is the last step"

[@MRyx-9]

Very good translation thank you !!

[@__entiendo]

Love seeing how distraught he was at the Faker turnaround on Knight. Shows just how important waiting half a second could have been.

[@drewcheung4239]

Great championship. Was hyped to see T1 win their 5th one and Faker make big plays.

[@Lohengrin88]

"Knight should have done this, Knight should have done that" Man in the face of extreme pressure during a fight the human mind has mere micro seconds to react on things. It's really easy to say things when you're not the one in the fight.

[@pilot1730]

Thats so true, so many things people say whether real life or virtual are barely even considerable when faced with extreme pressure Literally sports or esports, it doesnt matter what field, as long as extreme pressure is present, even the best can become the worst in mere seconds

[@optidalfprime3904]

Sponsors and management less inclined to pay for DDoS

[@TheSinglishMan]

Took a while, but what doinb is actually saying is this. If sponsors are not willing pay enough money, there won’t be enough money to hire ALL 5 MAN good players. Even if they WANT doinb, and willing to pay his salary, it would still not be enough to hire other 4 good enough for doinb to be confident enough to be in that situation.

[@kitsune8838]

I can see why Uzi retired when he did- the LPL scene is no longer about the players and more about the money that can be made from the championships- big names like Weibo and Bilibili putting a stake into the game when the league was already established and after LPL began to win should have been a red flag. SKT T1 was formed back when league championships were hosted within games conventions. Teams like RNG, AHQ dissolved, probably after the players were acquired by big corp, like Xiaohu was. So yeah, LPL scene is no longer like it was before and I can why DoinB was scared about BLG losing. It was no longer about being able to play the game, it was being able to survive in China. Edit: I forgot EDG still existed---

[@fistofram5526]

This is still a business, lmao. We're talking about CHINA who would sell their citizens for money. Why is this news?

[@TheClayKnight]

Since when was EDG dissolving?

[@kitsune8838]

@TheClayKnight mb i forgot they still existed

[@WorldPolitica-gm9is]

2:25 Keria. Didnt notice this

[@Tsino69]

T1 really put LPL into rebuild mode 😬

[@dunzhen]

more like destructo mode. i think only LCK victories from now on till end of League

[@halamadridpatriotsnationgo1057]

@@dunzhen LCK are just that dominate! They're the Laliga of LoL top 5 leagues, T1 is Real Madrid and Faker is Messi! That's how good they are!

[@申文卿]

White from Royal in 2013:Why the hell these guys still againsting faker?

[@aeroq384]

bro, DoinB is the only other mid laner aside from Faker that makes plays. He's my favorite mid laner of all time cause he's a funguy

[@maxpeng3331]

Nice translation. I literally learned a lot. Thanks:)

[@lan600000]

Legendary DoinB yap. If this is what it takes for LPL to crumble, then so be it. Give up DoinB; just focus on streaming.

[@Eins3467]

It's hilarious some people here feel sorry for the losing team when it's competition. But muh money and scene dies. Like let it die then, it's not T1's fault it's the sponsors fault for only caring about money and not fostering talent. They can get out of esports. No one plays for the damn game anymore unlike back then.

[@cherrymangoari]

I know they keep saying how this worlds will impact lpl viewership next year but all i can think is even if they didnt win worlds, they should still be very proud of blg for making it this far, and thus should even ignite more fans to keep supporting their lpl teams. win or not celebrate the achievements cause these players worked hard to get to worlds stage!

[@cloudwalker9572]

Faker ending careers all over the world, GOAT shit

[@dekoygaming]

the same thing is actually happening to Dota, on early days of TI when Eu and CN is trading wins each year CN scene is so alive, but now its always just EU you can clearly see how the CN slowly dying.

[@jqa16]

CN slowly dying because of Chinese government restrictions on gaming 1 hour per day made the scene almost invisible. I always play against Chinese in high mmr of dota and it forces me to learn Chinese even a little.

[@NikosNtemkas]

He is the only one who noticed ahris canceled in real time

[@turtumurtu3295]

doinb saying more than 50% of lpl players next year will be new hits hard knowing how Chinese team are mostly in it for the money

[@Kaloth_kouhai]

idk how T1 does it but they do it again and again

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

They are not afraid to take risks especially Faker. No other mid laner can and will engage in a team fight like he did, not in world stage, thats why its always unexpected and hard to react.

[@sushi_17]

"If father is here, I feel like can't win" 😂

[@cesarguerra-v3k]

xd bros Faker groomed 4 rookies into super stars in 2 years and Doinb openly saying he cant play with 4 rookies hahahaha there you have it what a true king it is.

[@howe4622]

Do you know bo?

[@doloran-]

All BLG had to do was play it slow while Bin channeled TP and they win worlds. Crazy how close that game 5 really was, it all came down to one team fight.

[@belldolphin5707]

That's what doinb said

[@spacemutt2923]

I don't know what I am supposed to say ig? If they accept lower salary, they have no reason to get newbies. And if they do default to newbies, the lpl pros would go to the lcs/lec.

[@alvinjan3486]

It's a work my guy, if they don't show good results they will most likely get removed from the team

[@Kuba-lz3iu]

most of them do not speak english well so it is kinda hard to move to other regions learn language and adapt to new region. Possible,but hard and leaving china is probably not desired for most of them, I mean they have way more teams in china than in LEC or LCS so you can't just send majority of players somewhere else,and also leaving your family,friends,girlfriends etc...

[@AlkaliYuki]

didn't even notice Keria canceling Knight's TP live holy great positioning by Keria

[@MissingSG]

that means Chinese Valorant gonna have more sponsorship since EDG team just won Champ !!!!

[@quataonhochannel1910]

yes

[@SocialboutMedia]

Ruthless.. Stay positive Doinb. Nobody thought FPX would win Worlds when you did but, look what happened. Nobody is better at playing their own style than the LPL.

[@willyman1905]

he forgot he`s korean i guess, he`s acting like he`s native chinese

[@barelyaliving1473]

Holy shit, I didn’t even notice the keria ult on knight in the last fight. That might have actually saved the play.

[@HipkanGaliano]

Nunca voy a entender a doinb El tipo es coreano pero es lo mas hater de corea que se ha visto en la historia del lol, que Uzi esté en contra de Corea se entiende porque Uzi es chino, pero doinb??? Re vende patria jajajaja

[@lok6672]

Do Koreans necessarily support South Korea? Some Chinese also support T1

[@RoqueKB]

doinb supports China only because in Korea they did not accept him as a professional because he did not have the level for their league, literally no one wanted him xD I guess he hates South Korea for that, even so I agree that I don't like doinb, it's overrated and its only good year was 2019

[@lazcanovzq]

Lleva años viviendo en china y jugando para china (y gano worlds con china), que esperabas?, obviamente se va a preocupar por su región.

[@-B-HuynhTriNguyen]

Rekkles?

[@trix9808]

I think its so devastating to know that the LPL was also on the edge because of the management and viewership situation. Its sad that one of the most strongest regions is getting a hit

[@howe4622]

I'm very curious about the situation in the EU and NA. The fans in their region expect their teams in the world competition.

[@minglin2814]

7:40 makes sense why wbg decide to throw their game to blg since last year that got absolutly destroyed by t1

[@rasz2368]

T1 is just Built different.

[@Linkingx2]

I mean the LPL has to keep it real, won worlds 3 times and now they are "arrogant" to think "wow we didnt win, its a crisis, gotta nuke the region"... like, Bengi has the same amount of worlds titles as your region... not saying the lpl is bad - of course not - but winning worlds is the dream/goal but it should never be the required goal for a split. Sure it matters for sponsors cause they dont care about playing good league, they care about titles cause that brings cloud. But damn LPL is still winning MSI titles and is going far in these events, so lots of games -> lots of air time for the sponsors. Sure should league players earn millions of dollars (worth of chinese monopoly money) for playing a game - probably not, especially not if you arent winning, but he jokes and says he needs to eat as well... not sure what to say, earning 6 figures is still insane and they should be more then happy with that. Not to mention that they also have "no" costs - since the teams feed and house them often, like the players overall have become such drama queens. And where does that get you, look at all these EU pros that wouldnt play for less then 10mil and now they are gone, sure some stream, but if you arent playing, your pro player brant wont last forever; not everyone can do what Nemesis did - all these other guys, wont sign and now "who are you again?" So teams and players need to check were they are in life, and sure all of that wont matter if the League is not being watched and is not generating money - thats bad - but then the players and teams need to make it interesting, they need to do their part in marketing the product. Stream and do content bits what ever - T1 is popular for many reasons, one is that they market their players they make content with and for them... sure thats hard on the players but as often in life you gotta do something for your money/success.

[@NononFPS]

How are they arrogant? LOL, despite T1 winning I think LPL on average are a stronger region

[@Linkingx2]

@@NononFPS Arrogant in "" - maybe not the right word, but I think them thinking that not winning worlds is such a big deal when they only won 3/14 titles and the LCK / T1 won like 9/5 is a bit "delusional" - and as I said; winning worlds should not be THE goal for the season, at least not from management, sure for the players you should have the drive to win; but from management thats insane, considering how low the chances for that are (if you arent t1) What do you mean on average? LPL has more teams so do you think UP is better then DRX? Are we just talking about the top 5 or so? Cause I dont share that view, idk about on average; but LCK has like 5 good teams every year the LPL usually also 5 6, but since they have more teams and more players having like 1 more good team is like a given, but when we look at the quality of these top teams the LCK 1 2 usually better then the LPL top 2, both 3. - 5th are even id say. Then you can take that either way, but in the LCK the bottom teams sometimes at least take games of the top ones. That can either mean BRO beating GenG indicates BRO is good or GenG is bad, but since the LCK teams (before random swiss format) usually perform better then the LPL teams I think LCK > LPL is pretty clear. I mean even without T1, the LCK has more World titles. Again not saying LPL is shit, but they are the Blue to Red - Stand Proud LPL you are strong

[@NononFPS]

@ Last year every single LCK got knocked out by an LPL team except T1. This year is the same. T1 is just an exception to the norm. I don't think LCK is is better than LPL, they are probably around even with imo a slight lean towards the LPL on average. What I mean by this is if the two regions got merged and had to compete against each other in the regular season I would wager that there would be more LPL teams in the top half distribution than LCK teams. Just to clarify, I still think Gen G is better than T1 for example, at least on paper. The fact is that T1 was seed #4 of LCK. They didn't get there by winning. T1 played worse the whole regular season. I think the perform better at worlds because they are good at meta shifts and play well under pressure because of Faker.

[@vinitrout3679]

Bro plz see msi this year, geng won it.

[@animeanime7849]

@@vinitrout3679They are talking about worlds though. JDG won MSI last year and nobody cares cause they lost to T1 at worlds. BLG beat T1 at MSI twice and no one cares

[@allainangcao28]

The only time LPL won worlds is if it is EU in the final or any other LCK team. 100% fucking win rate against an ENTIRE REGION.

[@quanghuynguyen7619]

Doinb speaks madirin so well that ppl forget he is korean

[@pilot1730]

Wait is he actually korean?

[@quanghuynguyen7619]

@pilot1730 yeah, he definitely has a tobukki

[@masonlazy2740]

1:20 knight fail flash Charm, but elk also fail to flash a galio knock up (twice btw)

[@AinS_Sama]

So its a guarantee that ruler is going come back to lck

[@wedmunds]

Ruler either goes to KT or he'll be teamless. Lck especially Gen G is currently very competitive.

[@legendaryhumper]

yes

[@tzuyuhypetrain9791]

He is going to BRO and is switching his role to support replacing BRO Peter

[@AinS_Sama]

@@tzuyuhypetrain9791 nah you're joking

[@AinS_Sama]

@@wedmunds nah Ruler is one of the best if not the best adc in the world. There's definitely a team that wants him. The problem is the salary.

[@LK-ul4sh]

Doinb is so good at this game. He is the only one questioning how Knight's Ahri's TP got cancelled. Not a single commentator or streamer pointing that out from any of the reaction videos I watched so far. What happened was Knight was TPing to top lane where the fight broke out from mid lane but Keria's Poppy ulted her and sent her back to her base. If Ahri made it to top lane on time, then she would have killed both faker and zeus and they wouldnt have wiped by the rest of the t1 players and game would have went on

[@Areus019]

Oner would've been there already and guma would be approaching from the moment knight finishes tp, and unless he immediately flash charm and guma doesn't react, he's getting instakilled by that xayah.

[@mgsBicycleO9]

@@LK-ul4sh Keria's TP cancel was crucial. If Ahri was there, Galio would have been dead for sure and with her ult reset, she can cook. But Keria has lowkey won many teamfights, on his Rakan too. It's a team game

[@jasonsmart1]

If LPL teams cant pay, does that mean players like Bin can play in LEC?

[@heartseeker3333]

Please, never put Bin in the same sentence with this joke region.

[@joshuaclouthier4405]

​@@heartseeker3333 LPL is joke region let's be real

[@tzuyuhypetrain9791]

Bin is playing for Cloud9 Challenger team in 2025 zzzz

[@tzuyuhypetrain9791]

@@heartseeker3333put him in the Dust-BIN

[@heartseeker3333]

@@tzuyuhypetrain9791 bin played well.. he deserves better ❤️‍🩹

[@kapeecoffee]

The DDos attempts didn't put a dent in their abilities for worlds 😂

[@NASFON]

1:01 DOinB knew they gonna lose after that missed E+Flash

[@RPS_FFRK]

BLG almost had it, their over confidence/excitement got the better of them. Maybe next year, they can try as its like how T1 was during 2022. Faker's mindset should be what these pro strive for. Nerves of steel, experience, and accountability.

[@NicoPaz557]

Soy el unico al que nunca le cayó bien doinb? Eso de apoyar a china siendo coreano solo porque jugaste en china me parece una tonteria Mirenlo a TheShy, es coreano, toda su vida jugó en china, ha ganado worlds con invictus gaming, le ha tocado perder una final de worlds contra T1 3-0 y aun asi en ningun momento se lo ha visto llevarle la contra a T1 en la final contra BLG Muchos fanes de doinb ofendidos en las respuestas xD

[@michelalvarez126]

Doind b es un caso aparte, se caso con una china y siente mas ese pais, no veo mal que los apoye.

[@coob9678]

what is wrong about that? just like doinb is rooting for BLG, you are rooting for T1. That does not make you any more right than him, its merely a subjective thing about which team you like more. Is it wrong for Doinb to support China if he plays for China?

[@gaboxl100]

Como te va a caer mal solo porque juega en el equipo que no es de su país lmao. Mucho nacionalismo, que juegue donde quiera

[@ItsZnaarf]

wacho deja de cargar con tanto patriotismo, no te sirve de nada.

[@bruh-th5ft]

well if you are hated in your country i guess you'd do the same

[@lilinini-z2n]

Doinb's stream is fun. He's so expressive.

[@lagerinopino6012]

Quiere hacer quedar a faker como el malo,el responsable de que la lpl pueda bajar la calidad. Que mal perdedor que es,espero que nunca mas gane lpl si siguen asi.

[@tryfergoodra552]

That was a good insight , they could of chased slower but instead galio had a perfect set up

[@fatihbalc2707]

isn't he korean ?

[@xxDxxism]

yes

[@friedrich3]

But he won worlds with lpl team

[@unicornmusic1523]

He got shit on by all orgs in Korea so had to move to China to find an org and prove all the Korean orgs wrong by winning worlds with an lpl team

[@joshualin5476]

Yes but he played in the LPL for 7 years, lived in China for 9 or ten years, and I think has Chinese citizenship

[@Mat-qo3hh]

​@@joshualin5476also married a Chinese woman. I don't think he's ever going back

[@RyqLight]

"So those DDoS attacks weren't enough... How should we get em next year? Anymore plans?"

[@junsake2797]

Doinb realized it's time to return to his homeland XD

[@kanekiten2258]

Animorph from cao ni ma to ssibal

[@dunzhen]

i think China is a breath of fresh air for him. he is very welcomed to here, as are foreigners in general there. And South Korea actually manages to be more toxic than China so i'm sure he enjoys it

[@inconvenientfacts58]

He wouldn't because you have to actually work hard in the LCK. That's why Ruler is going back; he thought he could win in the LPL then realized the truth.

[@junsake2797]

@@inconvenientfacts58 is LPL known to not work as hard as LCK?

[@jqa16]

@@junsake2797 Chinese culture is just completely different compared to KOREA Even in gaming in terms of integrity, contracts, livelihopd, lifestyle and such. Cultural differences it's about the money for Chinese teams it always was and still is. But korea has passion for the game even without money they'd surely play the game. Even as a dota player who just watches Esports casually i can tell LPL culture is too fragile to be kept alive. The only way is to advertise or hype someone to Faker level of famous.

[@yohansong9797]

He’s saying like his retirement is due to BLG losing, bro the truth is no team in lpl wants him

[@georgesummer536]

instead crying he should come back and help them win it, but he is washed so yapping is his only option now to stay relevant

[@unicornmusic1523]

There is world trophy sitting behind him, you only have your mom sitting behind you

[@AndroidMarginau]

​@@unicornmusic1523XD

[@owenteo8309]

Bros spitting facts wdym yapping bruh, it is true that LpL viewers are losing belief in LpL itself, which is why players like rulers are cut due to lower salary intentions

[@kivori3438]

If you cant understand why vierwership is a problem idk what to tell you, viewership is what makes money and doinb is right

[@vinitrout3679]

​@@unicornmusic1523you don't even have your mom lol

[@brendanmcg8566]

Wow he brings up great points abiut how much impact this has on the region. You dont think about it, but all the $$$ holders wait until the outcome.

[@rainday-mz2jp]

sigh LPL doomed next year

[@Eins3467]

good

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

If LCS and LEC sponsors are like this, players must be eating bread dipped in water since 2016

[@deuxexmachimax]

This dude's voice and the way he talks is unbearable. Being all doomer and negative. I read a comment saying he's like IWD except this guy won Worlds. Lmfao

[@tzuyuhypetrain9791]

I would love to see this guy and IWD inside a same room 😂

[@testbug01]

He became real Chinese that's why

[@goncalosilva804]

Does anyone here know an estimation for LPL viewership in China?

[@yaseoul8475]

Doinb is right. If BLG loses, LPL is gonna undergo a bunch of reforms in roster, management, salary, and coaches. And LPL viewership will tank. If T1 loses, ZOGK will probably join another LCK team with their contracts expiring this year. Which means there will also be massive LCK roster changes. This year's world finals are high stakes for both LCK and LPL.