Doing this will get you kicked out of late model races

[@saltybildo9448]

I put my tires in pools to find leaks lol

[@TomWohlford]

Tire prep is an art raced sprint cars for 10 yrs. Then my son raced go karts. The kids in go karts don't need all the chemicals around them. Cooling off hot sprint car or late models would allow us low budget guys another night of use be because we couldn't afford new😅

[@kimifan06]

I totally agree about the USAC crashes not being ok, especially Zach's. Came way too close to the crowd. Why does USAC have such a long break in March?

[@JamesDedmon]

Well I can see it the concern, what I don’t get is the washing part. If you’re using something in the cleaning process that acts as a tire treatment it should show up in the tire sample. The only benefit I see from washing is maybe the dirt removing oils from the tires keeping them fresher. Now heating them I understand however with the transports most teams use keeping them in the hauler will warm the tires a bit, on a cold night warm tires will fire better

[@Thumper68]

The turns are where the fencing is needed most. It’s obvious that’s where you’re sideways and have biggest chance of starting a violent roll going off track.

[@DIRTRACKR]

As we've seen over and over at race tracks all around the world, even those places you don't think a car would ever get to, somehow they always do eventually.

[@Thumper68]

@@DIRTRACKR this is true but we’re talking about oval tracks and that fencing is cheap especially compared to the cost of what could result not having it. At least for tracks that are big enough to host these large series’s it shouldn’t be a big deal to spend the money to have it done. I understand it’s not financially feasible for smaller tracks obviously.

[@stevenpill6241]

Bart Hartmans team soaked his tire in the creek at Pennsboro after hot laps in 2001 …. There’s pictures and a story about it somewhere out there

[@mariebeasley1269]

Thanks for the Midget piece. Going to Midget week and very excited

[@Har-ebal-zenal]

The kiddy pools is just to wash the tires before you grind them. We been using something similar in kart racing. 🤷

[@jamietwigg4845]

Not in this instance.

[@jamiepoe9716]

They same complaint was mad to lucas but only Steve Francis done anything about it. If you wasn't there it was easy to know who was there and then all of a sudden wasn't there. But thanks to WOO for taking action.

[@marktheaardvark7208]

I was at a sprint car race many years ago where a car cleared the fence and landed in the stands about 20 foot from where I was sitting, Luckily it was at the start of the race and everyone was paying attention so everyone was able to clear out in time, Still a scary situation. PS. The driver was OK but he didn’t want to get out of the car, he was afraid he might have killed someone.

[@gregihrke8065]

Was that Sycamore?

[@marktheaardvark7208]

@@gregihrke8065 No, Colorado National Speedway, 1983 - 84 maybe, don’t recall exactly, memory’s kinda fuzzy now days

[@fivecitydirttracker4776]

​@@marktheaardvark7208 With you on the fuzzy ness of the year. Was at the PAS and a CMain flip angeled toward turn ones infeild where photographers were. The infeild is lower than track surface and the car cleared what inner catch fence was erected and proceeded to land on a husband and wife team. Tragic. They both were killed. It happens.

[@Synic08]

…if i was washing in a pool, and they told me to leave, without just saying to stop first, i would be livid… imagine being top qual…

[@Kevin-fq4hf]

why not just say the team? save us from searching

[@landonmurray3814]

Probably because they never "officially" broke the rules

[@joebrock2470]

Garrett smith

[@Kevin-fq4hf]

thanks @@joebrock2470

[@Mr58hawkeye]

Didn't he have to start at the tail of the feature recently because he was in the line up with the wrong compound tire? RF I believe ?@@joebrock2470

[@54raceman]

As with most new obscure rules just look for the team employing cody mallory and you have your answer

[@wildman318]

How does dunking a tire in a “ kiddy pool “ get an advantage over other teams ???

[@tMatt5M]

Probably because tire softening agents could be in the pools. Tire softening is a form of cheating.

[@cliffbeckwith4019]

Or it could be a giant mind fuck...

[@wildman318]

@@tMatt5M yea, I know all about tire softeners. I’ve been involved in open wheel racing since 1955…. But, our family never put tires in a baby pool ? lol

[@jamiepoe9716]

Ice water on a hot tire shocks the rubber and inturn makes it softer. There was an actual freeze found and that team was ask to leave on Tuesday

[@nanate8190]

Heating a tire will help grow. Heating then suddenly cooling via ice water will shrink a tire. We do this all the time to play with stagger.

[@bobroberts2371]

When I was road racing, we would put the tires in an SUV and turn the heater on . . . . .

[@saltybildo9448]

Injury sucks for too tall Osbourne, glad Zack is ok

[@ChrisWigal-qn6lh]

This tire thing is getting stupid. Hoosier should make 3 damn tires (hard,medium,soft)that are already cut and grooved enough that no one has to touch them. And they shouldn’t be allowed to touch them! All they gotta do is mount them and go. It’s that simple. But of course like every other big company they gotta do DUMB SHIT! Every sanction, every track. Same tires, same rules. Save a lot of BS. Guess that makes things to simple.

[@ChrisS3c]

These NLMT tires were supposed to be no groove/no sipe tires. That's how they were originally advertised. But that all went out the door right away. They should have them pre-cut on the block cross. Or should have used the WRS mold withan additional cut on the outer block.

[@jimmieroan9881]

we had tracks/series doing that back in the late 70s early 50s, McCreery and hoosier both had tires, i think mccreary was first with the ready to race tire. some tracks required you to buy and mount tires at the track from a vendor they picked, but like most rules it didn't last long.

[@ferdterguson124]

Atta boy mat 88

[@poplardeer]

Pointing it out, saying it's a specific team, then not saying the team.. We come to you for information.

[@DIRTRACKR]

Don't care one bit about the team in question. But I'm not going to out anyone in a situation like this based on rumors. If you don't like that, oh well. 🤷‍♂️

[@poplardeer]

Fair enough. Seemed pretty cut and dry from what you stated. And it's not like they were doing anything illegal at the time.

[@DIRTRACKR]

I figured it would eventually show up in the comments on this video anyway, and it has. So people can see if they want...

[@Kevin-fq4hf]

yes... hate the "i know something you dont know attitude" if it is just a rumor ? then why bring it up. callin bs on that explanation

[@DIRTRACKR]

The rules bulletin was not a rumor. That's why it was brought up.

[@imperialmodelworks8473]

Can't use certain shocks, can't use certain springs, can't clean dirt off your tires, can't mess with body panels.... good lord, just make it a spec series like formula E or Nascar then. My God this stuff is so stupid. So much trivial BS to satisfy the people that are too lazy to try new things to keep up. Make the cars all identical, owned by the series, the series can mount all the tires and set all the shocks too. Getting really fed up with hearing about all this stupid crap.

[@RacingVagabond]

People want series' to keep costs under control, it's hard to do that with a wide open rule book.

[@imperialmodelworks8473]

@@RacingVagabond and that series will never grow when it's the same cookie cutter crap that 4 guys in the series have figured out and run the table week in and week out. Look at Indy car, Nascar, F1, and every class of NHRA drag racing: as soon as they tried this crap, they went down the drain and people quit watching.

[@alexmaccain2362]

​​@@imperialmodelworks8473what are u old? Lol Nascar Is gaining popularity.😂😂

[@imperialmodelworks8473]

@@alexmaccain2362 for the first time in 20 years. I'm 30, you don't need to be "old" to have common sense.

[@imperialmodelworks8473]

@@alexmaccain2362 once the novelty of turning superspeedways into road courses wears off, it'll be back on the downward slope.

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Hmmm heat? So no grooving tyres allowed, no buffing tyres. Problem with Hoosiers they go hard in the truck by the week. The Baddays were even worse. Some were one heat cycle and no more grip US tracks? Most are at best dangerous many lethally so. For both competitors and the crowd. They should go look at Aussie tracks for fences and PIT gates

[@Thumper68]

Wtf one of the best ways to check tires for leaks is in a water pool. There’s absolutely no reason to make it Illegal that would effect absolutely nothing on the tire

[@jayss10]

Apparently there is something BOTH sanctioning bodies feel is being done to that can and does alter the tire or they wouldn't have done. it. If you look around there are several clear liquids that help soften rubber (isopropyl alcohol being forefront in my mind). From a distance you would have no idea, but dangerous as all hell.

[@54raceman]

The problem wasn’t someone was doing it the problem was cody mallory was doing it

[@Thumper68]

@@jayss10 yeah but using just water does nothing and your going to ban something that’s a tool. If you think it’s not water used test it and act accordingly don’t punish everyone over feed actions. This is like gun control it makes no sense. Criminals don’t follow laws and cheaters are going to cheat.

[@randyhathawy7514]

They don 't soak it on the wheel with air in it

[@davidvanbrunt4233]

Nasty injury for Zack...too bad.

[@DJDouglasWarden]

Why does Logan Seavey not get many opportunities to drive a winged 410?

[@mariebeasley1269]

When I see him in June,I will ask him. Might just not a interest or his commitment to the USAC rides

[@mjriemen]

He’ll be driving for Swindell Speedlab this year.

[@dave3823]

I never understood why he bounced around in rides for a couple years. The guy just wins.

[@JRsBullet]

I don’t see a problem with dunking tires in water. It is not expensive so everyone can do it. I guess I am missing something. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@RegularJoes]

Seavey will be the third triple crown champion by end of season

[@RegularJoes]

Triple Crown Champion should be driver winning all three series in the same season.

[@54raceman]

The problem wasn’t someone was doing it to the tires it was who was doing it

[@joshpitts7256]

Yeah.. He is the Greatest of Asinine Times .

[@kevinporter9444]

Any idea who was doing this?

[@DIRTRACKR]

I know who it was. A little searching around on social or the forums will reveal it.

[@joshciviletti3032]

@@DIRTRACKR you always say forums but I never know what you mean by that. What forums do you use?

[@SwampApe]

I have no social media

[@DIRTRACKR]

I don't use or have accounts for any of the forums. But 4M, Hoseheads, Indiana Open Wheel, and Dirt Track Digest all have them, among others.

[@Trackratz-zl9di]

Garret Smith

[@ChesterMolester-i1b]

It's your racecar and your tires. Do whatever the hell you want. Hoosier tire monopoly is antitrust bullshit. For the record hoosier tires are junk

[@davidburchfield2720]

That's a BS roul !!!!!

[@tMatt5M]

Wingless sprint cars are absurdly dangerous.

[@Infamous918]

Wrong.

[@therainman72]

So when do they start checking what the tyres are inflated with 👀👀 there are more options apart from air from your compressor which have different effects on tyre size/temp ect. Lets see who gets creative now the rules are getting nascar bullshit style

[@dave3823]

I find it amusing because Nascar uses Nitrogen already.