DOJ Phoenix Report -

This video addresses an allegation by the United States Department of Justice that the Phoenix Police Department engaged in a pattern or practice of unconstitutional policing related to officers deploying a pepper ball gun while responding to a call involving behavior health problems

[@DesertJoshB]

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[@ImprovmanZero]

I want to see the video to see if this isn't someone the department hired

[@anthonydavis7151]

Don't get me wrong there's lousy police everywhere in the county but as a former resident of Phoenix I've never had any bad or awful encounters with Phoenix pd. I actually appreciate the curtisy and professionism shown by them in the every once and a while times that I had to deal with them.

[@ImprovmanZero]

you got lucky

[@anthonyg9787]

This is just one case n what about other. No cherry picking to fit your needs

[@AZPoliceLawyer]

I would hope we both can agree that the DOJ should be accurate in its report - if that is what we expect the public and elected officials to rely upon in any way when assessing whether the Phoenix Police Department has a "pattern or practice" of unconstitutional policing. This video is one example (of many - see here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5PYfoKLZd2Ko9U) - here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrFlqWdhLGJbaM) - here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6XCfHyfdtmEoqc) and here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rITMfGOnd76Gf9E)) where the DOJ report misrepresents incidents in their report. My question to you is - what percentage of incidents would the DOJ report need to get wrong before you believed they had a "pattern or practice" of misleading the public? Then the second question would be, what percentage of police contacts would PPD need to get wrong for you to find a "pattern or practice" of unconstitutional policing? The public should demand transparency and accountability. But this should also apply to the DOJ's investigations and reports.

[@joetrujillo9371]

One incident of good behavior doesn't change the pattern of practice Phoenix PD has. I'm happy to pay more taxes to ensure my public servants have more oversight and are held to a higher standard than the people they serve.

[@AZPoliceLawyer]

I would hope we both can agree that the DOJ should be accurate in its report - if that is what we expect the public and elected officials to rely upon in any way when assessing whether the Phoenix Police Department has a "pattern or practice" of unconstitutional policing. This video is one example (of many - see here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5PYfoKLZd2Ko9U) - here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXrFlqWdhLGJbaM) - here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6XCfHyfdtmEoqc) and here (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rITMfGOnd76Gf9E)) where the DOJ report misrepresents incidents in their report. My question to you is - what percentage of incidents would the DOJ report need to get wrong before you believed they had a "pattern or practice" of misleading the public? Then the second question would be, what percentage of police contacts would PPD need to get wrong for you to find a "pattern or practice" of unconstitutional policing? The public should demand transparency and accountability. But this should also apply to the DOJ's investigations and reports.

[@anthonydavis7151]

mental health professionals arnt always good people as are a few doctors ECT. however this is the one time that I agree with you in the fact that the police did do a good job of getting the man to a place where he could receive help. Getting a commendation for doing your job is dumb but it should have been put in those officers records that they responded appropriately which is what they would tell the interested public .

[@anthonydavis7151]

also to restrict a persons movement who is not detained for a crime is a violation of the 4th admendment violation.

[@AZPoliceLawyer]

In this instance, the Phoenix Police Department had probable cause to detain the man for the commission of the crimes outlined in the video - as reported by multiple callers from the mental health facility into the 911 system.

[@anthonydavis7151]

@@AZPoliceLawyer then why didnt they say in the video that he was under arrest?

[@DesertJoshB]

@@anthonydavis7151 officers have discretion on whether or not to go through with an arrest. In this case they felt the better option was mental health treatment at a facility with a higher level of care