Doki talking about joining a company.

[@admiralandy1983]

The most important thing should be always have a reputable lawyer go over your contract, make sure you know full well what you are signing for.

[@ceresbane]

In regards to Niji. Just the vehement refusal to negoiate contract terms is a red flag. Its 100% normal in the west to negoiate contracts. Companies going on the assumption that you'll sign with no changes are people after suckers.

[@brandonhowell5096]

That isn't always a 100% something everyone is capable of doing, because not everyone has the funds to get a consultation for a contract. In theory yes its always good to have a lawyer to go over a contract, but realistically that's not always feasible.

[@setojinro]

If they give you the time and don't just say heeeey you have to get this back to us TODAY or we will move on to someone else.

[@siyo4894]

5:01

[@siyo4894]

@@ceresbane 6:43

[@raka1996]

8:36 I think that's supposed to be 'LAN stuff', like, offline tournament

[@RandomBore4Ever]

"And yay" is actually "breaking NDA" in your subs

[@LuciusFilmex]

What do you mean Doki isn't cheering?! 😢😢😭😭😔😢😢

[@owenmcpro]

"you'll be a great asset for the company"

[@zaimanity8893]

Fuwamoco is a good example of this. I watched their past life and was sad when they left. It was a huge surprise when i saw them again.

[@Mayuk7]

spill bro...

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

Seriously!? everyone knows who they were KZbin is a major snitch I've even been recommended some of their irl stuff from over 10 years ago recently same with Pomu

[@justawanderingoldman7699]

​@@Mayuk7Here is a funny thing. KZbin, for some reason, loves to recommend their old clips (I got it twice this week). So if you see a twins VTuber that's not Fuwamoco, feel free to click the clip.

[@xnonsense5171]

Ally sally sussy

[@anthonywinebarger]

@@justawanderingoldman7699 what were their past names?

[@Azure_Witch]

Your intro feels like the start of a Playstation 1 game. So nostalgic.

[@clou09]

More like a gameboy actually

[@crayonaurora2111]

The Old Bandai opening in ps1, check out the Gundam the Battle Master Games

[@Meonium]

That shaky camera movement is painful to watch

[@ManomiiFox]

more natural camera shake is usually okay, this one probably not.

[@coreytaylor5386]

bro had auto TTS generate these captions lol

[@rizqeenurhani3683]

Imagine if in this slide doki shows example of vtubinh company but purposely exclue nijisanji

[@InnocentC0]

Imagine she said she is going to join Nijisanji.

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

wont be much difference, all the jp corps are black companies according to streams (asmongold, moist) and dramatubers (nousagi, false, nux). The companies that do not allow talents to keep their ip after quitting is a hard criteria.

[@TBKSSS]

@@Pepe-dq2ib no company in the world let you keep their IP when you quit wtf

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

@@TBKSSS vshojo, mythic... and even connor said if he made his own vtuber company, he would let them keep their ip as well as take no cut from merch.

[@darkhime7005]

​@@Pepe-dq2ib vshojo doesn't take the ip cause when someone join they already have their own avatar

[@orixthesourguy]

A method for Indie content creators( not V-TUBER necessary)used to build a stable pile is being loud ,sometimes over your limits until people will notice you, 2 exemples are Dante and Fillian, they may had luck ,but what they do as content and how they present on the public internet is loud, very loud ( not necessarily a bad thing) wich resulted in fast way to be noticed .... ...sounds good ,BUT you have aware of the consequences and stand with your words

[@KeiosKod]

I don’t know Dante, but didn’t Fillian do a lot of shorts? I think that helped get her name out to people.

[@orixthesourguy]

@@KeiosKod well yeah, that's a a way to be ,, loud " trough a platform with high consumers

[@gladewings1192]

Fillian got the advantage of doing the mocap thing while streaming she's the only ive seen doing it as a vtuber. Vrchat people isnt the same because they didnt really embrace it and only just doing it inside the Vrchat and Vrchat content can be a hit or miss or sometimes plane boring.

[@CharDhue]

Hence there a lot of loud spontaneous act content on internet rn, kid do click on those and algorithm will pick u up because a lot of account clicking on u But kid have short attention span so u will need to eventually built a solid fanbase to keep dono/merch thriving

[@SatoshiKenji]

Some people always have this stereotype of 'you're set for life if you join the company, and you don't have to work hard for it'. I mean, you'll definitely got a sizeable audience on your first stream, but maintaining that number is a different matter. And a company accepts you over multiple applications because they believe you can grow that number, instead of getting it stagnate, or even shrink. I remember how these Twittards always have this kind of argument whenever people like IronMouse or Gura winning awards because they are in a company/agency and have big fanbase. Yeah, they have big fanbase, and THEY WORK HARD TO GET THAT BIG FANBASE. Stop downplaying like they didn't do anything to get to this point.

[@KABLAMMATS]

What do you expect from the people who never work ever in their life lmao

[@theermac6024]

Especially IroMouse, considering she was already big before VShoujo

[@Bloddrake]

@@theermac6024 Technically gura was also big before Hololive, 600k subs is nothing to sneeze at.

[@ShadowGeek12]

I still remeber how mad, all those vtweeters got when calli basicaly droped a disstrack and told them to stop talkin shit and start doing shit

[@theonlytnargmatt]

Doki joining phase connect confirmed.

[@josefarias5216]

She's not in sad girl territory, she might be the polar opposite in the giggling girl camp actually, might escape fishman's radar

[@mrparkx2]

I honestly don't find the need for her to join phase connect. Like she said, she loves gaming but is not a great singer nor does she seem to improve on it. She already has a good fan base from her kyrosanji days and some people who felt sad for her. No point in going to a company. Unless she plans to develop her singing career as well

[@moondust2365]

I feel like the LAN party concept could be done tho if it's only the audience that's in the physical location while the VTubers themselves are in a different area with their games and avatars being either shown on large TVs are projectors into large walls or something. It'd be difficult to incorporate to say, a normal concert event, but not too far fetched for a convention or expo type event like Hololive EXPO, at least afaik.

[@Xick]

Is that shaky-cam effect rough on anyone else? It might be fine in very short bursts, like if you wanted to emphasize a momentary character break or something, but I feel like going for that long could trigger vertigo. The editing is kind of directionless in this one. I get that it's because the content itself is basically directionless, literally reading from a Powerpoint, rather than building to a punchline; but if you're not building up to something, why slow zoom? If you need to do *something* to hold interest during these dry discussions, there's a technique I've seen some video essayists use where they punctuate sentence or paragraph breaks by cutting in a VERY SLIGHT zoom in or out right at the break, even when you're not going for emphasis. I've seen LegalEagle use it for long-winded law exposition; it can be almost imperceptible if you aren't looking for it, but the movement in tune with the speech has some kind of rhyme-like effect that recenters my attention span. Something to think about.

[@Micoolman]

As a hobbyist video editor, I agree.

[@AccountInactive]

Yeah I can't watch some of the video because of it. Bit of motion sickness tingles going on.

[@TOBY-jy7bz]

Damn, motion sickness from this? You must have a hard time... living I guess

[@newwayto2323]

i think as indie you must standout so much to beat all other indie or even company so make your unique as example like Filian or Vedal they so unique so even without company people will watch them

[@brandonhowell5096]

Realistically speaking joining a company is better in the long run then staying as an indie when talking about Vtubing hate to break it to most people, but making it big as solely as an indie is nearly almost impossible. As we've all hear stories of people trying for years and never getting anywhere with it and eventually just dropping off/burnning out and giving up.

[@antoniodelgado6369]

This, a lot of people don't understand that for every famous indie there are hundreds of indies that don't even get 50 viewers

[@KABLAMMATS]

UI-mama is truly a God then, did an impossible

[@Darkrezta]

@@KABLAMMATS well even though her personalities contribute her connection with hololive and others big corpo business make her career a lot easier compared to other indie. she is one of the kind talent and at one of kind position.

[@Plainsburner]

@@antoniodelgado6369 50 is good, there are 10s of thousands streaming to less than 10.

[@gladewings1192]

@@KABLAMMATS Um Ui-mama is already have a name for herself as an illustrator the reason why she got picked to draw Subaru. Then she's also a friend of Tsukudani Norio(Inuyama Tamaki) who is also have a name as mangaka/illustrator

[@-Raylight]

Does able to join a black company means you're lucky tho? xD There are always pros and cons. But I'm glad Doki is over from that, she already got what she wants from the company. Now it's time for her to spread her wings

[@ceresbane]

One thing I've noticed is Niji is definitely really good at finding talented capable people. They're just really talented people that are getting screwed. But at the very least. They get their shot. and if they're smart they'll leave immediately after. Because all they need to do there is have their talent recognised and then have eyes follow them after they leave.

[@SomeBuddy555]

its lucky in a way since more people became aware of Doki bird.

[@Vilodenas]

@@SomeBuddy555 That's how I became aware of Doki. I didn't know Selen had a PL account until a YT recommendation suggested one of of her old videos. I was like who's Dokibird... Wait, why does this sound like Selen?

[@xdbobxd181]

I theorize that Kurosanji wasn't suspected as a Black company when she debut. Take Akira from Zom 100 where the anime talks about a Black company.

[@mrparkx2]

​@@xdbobxd181yeah... you'd be surprised with how many are still siding with kurosanji and actually making hololive some bad company aiming for monopoly and what not

[@Tyyin.]

8:37 A V-tuber game tournament sounds hype tbh lol I just imagine a v-tuber anonymously to the crowd but not to referees , Their characters on V-tube studio for their face cams ect :D

[@zeroyuki92]

One cons that she didn't mention: Commissioning things are going to be much more expensive when you are in a (big) company. This is both for direct and indirect reasons: 1. Direct: Simple, people charge you more. A lot of people charge extra commercial fee or even straight up use a different rate when you are commissioning art/music/MV etc and you told them you are from big company, even if it is a personal project that you paid by yourself. Ability do do stuff by yourself or having pre-established production team of yours before debuting may alleviate this. 2. Indirect: Even in a friendly non-competitive environment, fans still have limited time and attention span. Even further, big established agency usually already have a really high quality standard that you indirectly need to at least match so you can keep up with the rest of company. For each talent who made anime grade MV or collaborating with music label composer/producer, you'll get one extra pressure to match that quality. Just one won't force you to keep up, but once the average moves significantly you will need to match your quality or be creative.

[@Meonium]

Proper company definitely have database for commission rates to consult. So artists can't simply rip their clients

[@chrisgaming8846]

.doesnt that apply to big indies as well.the bigger you become the more they would charge you specially if you want quality.not a creator nor an artist but i do think thats how business works.since if your not gonna pay them for quality they would just go to companies.also quality is not really the main point for companies.they just have a market where they supply to meet demands.its the same for indies .quality works thats why they take it but im pretty sure if you can be good for targeting a market of people that they dont have they would get you specially if they want to target that market.

[@Darkrezta]

how the hell people charge you more when you are with big company but not when you are indie? I mean look at bao bao case, she is not even charged more, she is basically scammed from her merch. from what I observed, being indie you risked more being more ripped of instead when you are with a good company.

[@zeroyuki92]

@@Darkrezta There is at least a commercial fee, which differ from flat extra charge to 1.5-3x multiplier. Btw, I am talking here from knowledge I have from both sides, both from artists (at least non-JP artists) and from vtubers. Also please remember that Big Indies are more like the exception for indies. Someone like Bao is pretty much on the same league as corpo vtubers, 99% of indies are not going to face the same problems as her.

[@Darkrezta]

@@zeroyuki92 I am sorry man, I don't trust your knowledge, seeing how many indie vtuber get ripped of or outright scammed by others, not only bao or any big indies.

[@Eyescream_16]

This is a nice ted talk

[@cpl_elemena]

Ideally, a company will go over the contract with you one on one and explain what's in it , and allow you to ask questions. While they can set a deadline, they cannot set an unreasonable deadline like 1 or 2 days. You should also make it clear that you need to have a lawyer go over the contract to make sure everything is kosher.

[@rayhatesu]

I mean, they *can* set an unreasonable deadline to sign it, they just can't expect that contract to hold up in court in certain countries.

[@AndreaRebek]

pro: 3d... are you sure about that doki? idk i think that depend from the company

[@moondust2365]

True, but generally, it's at least a lot easier than if you're an indie, tho I'm not sure since I don't have experience. It's certainly true tho if you're joining hololive and not the -black- rainbow company lol

[@NamePending9]

Even some of the less big jp agencies have managed to get 3D; vspo, 774, re:ACT, even neo porte are getting their 3D this week.

[@BeforeON3]

3d for yacht company?? Mission impossible

[@KABLAMMATS]

​@@BeforeON3 the yacht getting the 3d before the talent

[@mdb45424]

You need contacts to get great 3d, the demand for 3d studuos are massive. Otherwise you just get a slightly better vr chat

[@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni]

VSPO opening a EN branch Doki I really like them see them alot in VCR collabs Beni is probably my favorite

[@甘粕-t3b]

Welcom to Cover Doki =b

[@AndrewTheFrank]

Its that they have the ability to promote, advertise, collab and stream raid for you. I think this is why there is the view that they give instant fans or have fan bases. But many in corps have trouble gaining any audience. No matter what corpo does they struggle. Often needing their own viral moment created themselves to grow their audience.

[@Dflowen]

Is there like a part 2? Probably gotta go to the streem instead for the rest. How she explained the pros, requirements, necessities, reflection of your talents and creativity is needed when joining a company.

[@popcap990]

8:36, it makes me imagined a robot with a screen zooming around the LAN laughing.

[@CGSTARBAR]

To be honest, I know how it feels to struggle with the networking. I’m not self advertising. I’m just going over my own story. I’ve been doing this off and on for 10 years and lately I am finally starting to get somewhere. It’s not easy doing this.

[@CGSTARBAR]

And I’m going to reveal something here that a lot of people may not understand over the 10 years. I’ve made some OK friends but sometimes just because the person is nice on stream that doesn’t mean they’re perfectly cheeky offstream I have encounters to people who are generally look very nice, but who are some of the worst people I’ve ever encountered. I’m not going to, but there’s a lot of people on my shit list because of how they treated me

[@Corrodias]

@@CGSTARBAR That warning reminds me of a couple of facecam streamers that I occasionally watched or a friend of mine was a fan of that turned out be pretty abusive people. That's such an important reminder that what happens on camera is not necessarily representative of the actor as a whole. As for your career, I admire and absolutely do not envy anyone working in any form of entertainment or art. That constant struggle for an audience in a vastly overpopulated sea of content seems impossible and depressing, from where I sit. I feel lucky that my talents trend toward technical things instead. But anyone who can put up with this kind of career is incredible, to me.

[@desollador20]

Doki is really really really smart

[@thisistheboi]

doki charity apex tournaments - i think we can find a away to do lan

[@procow2274]

Doki doki panic

[@Spedatr0n]

She do be teachin!

[@Speed001]

2:33 Hololive EN gen 1, Myth. They all had great debuts, probably lots of budget or at least a lot of time and practice. Each person had their own thing, scuff included, but it didn't really detract because they planned well enough. Every other EN gen? Idk, i didn't watch them all, but they seem more streamlined at least. The company has a formula they stick to. One thing that stuck out to me, after debut, was Nerissa or Shiori did a microscope stream. That was really nerdy, niche, interesting, and unique. Unfortunately to my uncultured self, that gen, idk the name, is 2 goths, 2 dogs, and a rock. it's hard to tell them apart from a distance. And a distance is where most people are.

[@assaulthetz]

Now Nerissa has a batch of her own family as 'Talents' bundled with her whenever she sings (Her sisters are great singers, just like her), from a solo channel to a family channel I really liked the inside jokes that they're establishing. (Also for how Openly horny Nerissa is, that even her mother acknowledge it).

[@TheCrimsonCr0ss]

I love that simple summary of Advent " 2 goths 2 dogs and a rock "

[@josefarias5216]

Nobody: Advent: 👭🐕🐕🗿

[@EricWulfe]

either hololive, phase connect or V&U

[@tylerensminger]

She could have very biased but i felt she was honest about both sides

[@Erik_Emer]

1:04 Please stop using AI text generators. It should say "NDA.'

[@Rayhaku808]

break yay

[@rearedlogarithm]

"and yay" Bro, she's speaking English, you don't have to just take auto-CC, throw on a new font and call it a day, you can hear that she said "NDA". Don't be a lazy clipper.

[@KABLAMMATS]

Shaky camera, zooming, and questionable sub, take it or leave it

[@TheBroJose]

4:33 Think "send" should be "sense" (sense of community) Thanks for the clip~

[@GCJACK83]

History repeats itself. This time, Niji is internally bullying Rosemi Lovelock. Her 3d debut has been copyright struck by SME, a majority shareholder in AnyBlack/Kurosanji. On top of that, Elira popped up in that debut stream and Rosemi's donos and subs have taken a beating because of that.

[@Starrrycandy]

Niji hates obsydia real

[@GriseWeisshark]

The fuck you yapping about? Some Hololive streams have been struck by KZbin bot before and now that it happened to Nijisanji, it's now "internal bullying"? You people really twist reality just to fit it into your narrative.

[@NataliaAkashiya]

Sad. But the people in that company will never learn their lesson because their fanbase will keep everything alive.

[@hcheaz]

1:03 I think she meant NDA(Non-disclosure agreement), basically meaning to keep some stuff from the public

[@Jancoi]

Vspo EN is coming .

[@keenheat3335]

there is always the third option, form your own company. So if you're really bringing more to the table than they do, form your own company then.

[@DreamChasersInc]

Yeah, no. There's a reason a lot of new VTuber agencies seem to be run by rich idiots: because they have the resources to keep an agency going. Even boutique agencies have to work insanely hard to keep the lights, as seen by the increasing number of them going belly up, because of corporate buffoonery

[@kjracz15]

For a moment there, I thought she was joining a bike company. Polygon, anyone? 🤣🤣

[@justinyu5892]

Doki if she chooses to join a company again, may finally have a chance to join the same company with her friend Mumei

[@CharDhue]

But she is not singer/dancer she emphasize that

[@justinyu5892]

@CharDhue so was Ame, but she learned. The bigger question is if Doki is comedia- I mean, is she idol enough to join?

[@r3.4ct]

I think there's a higher chance of her becoming EA's 1st Apex vtuber representative than joining an Idol company

[@Remitonov]

Ultimately, it's really up to her. I think she's quite set for success as an indie now. Also, she doesn't need to be a Holomem to request a collab with Mumei, though it might be harder for her, being marked as a 'troublemaker' by Kurosanji.

[@WatameSheeperdOji]

​@@CharDhueThere are some Holo members not into singer or dancer. Because Hololive is an idol agency, you must learn along the way. It is not like you should have karaoke stream everyday. You can train the vocal or dancing off camera.

[@MarintineTheClown]

What if you can’t sing?🥲 5:39

[@ceresbane]

I've always said you sign on to a company to gain your foothold. Be completely realistic and understand that a company hires you because they see your value. They WILL be using you and its a reality of the job that they'll be wanting their return in investment. But whether you stay or quit is determined if that company is actually actively helping your success for your mutual benefit. If a company just wants to take their cut and sit on their hands. The benefit was on debut and all the success after was on you. Know you value and gtfo and take that revenue with you. Don't feel like you owe the company anything. They took their cut. You've literally paid your due.

[@gladewings1192]

Um hello? thats pretty much what an adult workers are?lol. Are you a student or something that still doesnt understand the world youre living in? "company hires you because they see your value" obviously any company will hire you if they see your value duh. Nobody will hire you if youre useless "They WILL be using you" um thats what taking a job is? you need to work and get the job done to get paid duh. "But whether you stay or quit is determined if that company is actually actively helping your success for your mutual benefit" Thats pretty much pushing more work on you and not getting enough pay scenario obviously any individual will fcking leave that company.

[@heymanchan9007]

Well said 👏👏👏

[@SeDa_2710]

Should definitely join 100T

[@FiltyIncognito]

Longer subtitles, my guy. Feels like trying to read messages from people who talk on IM's like this. And it makes the mistakes even worse.

[@KABLAMMATS]

And the shaky cameraman 😂

[@raviedavieu]

this editing style is making me feel dizzy lord what's going on;; sorry i did try to still watch the clip tho

[@chiwel]

Not shaky camera movement pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, this make my head hurts.

[@tommyvercetti4687]

hey, she should join to Nijisanji

[@Sky_314]

Fuck niji

[@captain0080]

LAN parties are still a thing? That's cool.

[@aryabaditz3092]

She has talent maybe she can join nijisaji.

[@neggy2926]

Try going into hololive like suisei!

[@Remitonov]

I don't think Cover will ever hire another VTuber the Suisei way. Sure, it worked out for them in the end, but I can't imagine the legal mess she created for YAGOO and co. If Doki is going to join, it'll be with a new persona again.

[@3kairu_]

join sad girl and girl failure company

[@hirohiwo]

what is this thumbnail lol.

[@pongtre568]

Where is sakana the 2nd best girl.

[@rochlobster5366]

Coffee company first, vtuber second.

[@Hathathorne]

I feel like Hololive wouldn't take in a creator currently embroiled in drama. After the Rushia incident.

[@HpeSoJA]

doki hololive confirmed

[@diqrstuv]

The H company is so great that the gamer group has just announced that they will perform a game event on a public arena with all the audiences involved. This is a high risk task (comparing to a concert) and hope they get success.

[@RobertLutece909]

The big benefit to a company is they take most of the non-streaming burden away. The company can hire technical people to set up your Minecraft server of deal with your software issues. They already have relationships with companies that do marketing and merch. They set up events and there's a group of people with whom you can easily collab. However, unless you're a complete luddite, I feel like if you're going to make it as a company streamer, you'll make it as an indy. Your audience will probably be smaller, but you end up with 70 cents of every superchat dollar instead of half that. And while you might not have the time to all the merch and cross-promotion and events you would do as a company streamer, you don't have to cut anyone else in when you do that kind of stuff.

[@BeforeON3]

Why Whenever I see riku pic.. I see him use clown makeup 😂

[@millionelectricvolts6117]

Why is there an earthquake throughout the clip??

[@ShadowGeek12]

Forget about vshoujo thats for established tubers as a retirment home, if you want to make it big and stay in that enviroment hololive is probably your best bet, with how much they support their talents and actualy care for them with phase probably being to closest , and niji well.... if you are established at all you will just curb your own growth but if you are a nobody there might be some oportunity for a pump and dump, join get conections and fans then leave... couse longterm unless your name is Salome you wont be suported and you will stagnate eventualy4

[@korennii2049]

who's the fierce bald man in the thumbnail?

[@unoacaso105]

Brother, you need to stop with the camera shake.

[@infernalinfinity5391]

Dokibird is holoid gen 4 😂

[@dravenmaster7859]

ID?

[@Remitonov]

​​@@dravenmaster7859 Too soon for EN Gen 4, but I dont see her in it. Though ex-NijiIDs have a shot, if they're not going indie or joining a local agency like Digikagi.

[@MenmaYu]

Hands down Hololive! Best choice ever. 😉

[@nnsh8562]

Is this a business presentation or something?

[@stevensmileyprod]

The contracts take so much from idol culture/japanese corporate culture, both of which are just insanely predatory and downright evil levels of greed. They completely own "your" ip and when you "graduate" aka get fired, let go, or kinda rarely quit, you lose everything. Your channel (I've seen the companies straight up SCRUB the vtuber from the internet. Henya's old channel's videos are completely gone and it's fucked up.) And you lose your model you cannot use it as you don't own it, and you lose your audience. Vtubers should always choose to be indie and just like any other twitch streamer. There's one or two decent companies but some of those require you to be established already like Vshojo.

[@MelvinDRosaria]

Sadly not all Vtuber companies are equal. So if someone does decide to join a Vtuber agency, do so educated and have a lawyer read over the contract before commiting to it. Sadly there is one that will only bump up your starter views, because of it's populair status, but really bad and none helpfull on all other fronts. Also others that will help you and be more understanding if something happends, but maybe isn't as big.

[@ascrein5247]

Hololive seems to have always treated their talents right. Vshojo allows their talents to keep their models. Idolcorp is a reputable company that has handled their talents well.

[@Sephini]

Vshojo doesn't allow anything as they have no say over it.

[@bored_person]

​@@SephiniYes, but they choose to have no say over it. They could have required talents to give them the rights to their models like phase connect does, but they didn't.

[@xAprilMayJuneX]

While I would have wanted Doki to Join VSPO EN, I don't know if the management is competent or not. Sure the JP side management is super competent (after all vspo is thriving for 6 years without any graduation/termination and major drama) but I don't know if the management for VSPO EN will be the same 😅 I sure hope so

[@70galaxie]

how,pray tell,do"they"breath,hav ah heartbeat& vTube? It'sa wonder.

[@PepegaMentalAttitude]

don't just auto generate subs and upload, this is a total mess, re-read the finished sub

[@cursedboyir]

Niji can't relate.

[@syarikat567]

If doki join vspo it will be good

[@aeroza5012]

In honesty, she could join Vshojo, lol. They treat each other like family as the only reason Silver and Nyanners left, was their own free will.

[@A_Bag_of_Potatoes]

I don't think she would feel comfortable being in Vshojo, there's something off about Matara & Kuro when it comes to Doki. Did you ever find it strange that Matara & Kuro never publicly reached out to help Doki and tried to keep their distance from her?

[@FeignJurai]

I feel like Nina was at least indirectly part of some of the "highschool behavior" in Niji and as a result Matara feels at least guilty about it. Possibly the same with Mysta/Kuro. She very vaguely alluded to it when asked if she would do a collab with Sayu or Doki. Maybe it's all my imagination, but Matara seemed like she has regrets.

[@bored_person]

​@@FeignJuraiThat is pure speculation.

[@Stillaliveyea]

@@A_Bag_of_Potatoeswhy would they approach a girl who is on a trial

[@thomasfalkenberg8549]

Okay, but hear me out: What about Doki joining Nijisanji?

[@silverxeniel5173]

Sounds like a nightmare

[@NataliaAkashiya]

Could they afford her though?

[@Tyyin.]

I heard you out. Stop cooking.

[@bored_person]

Too soon

[@jestifizzle]

Can someone explain to me why they are always so worried about breaking NDAs when they are not living in Japan? Even if the do break the NDA, they will only be liable for legal proceedings in Japan...in which the worse case scenario is that they get deported from Japan (and maybe a mutual legal treaty court order to instate an NDA within their country of residence)

[@reijek990]

Because you don't want to have a reputation as someone who breaks NDA's as future business partners will factor that in their calculation when deciding to work with you.

[@Meonium]

No business partner want to work with shitty people who break NDA because who knows, next they'll break your NDA

[@FreinHowe]

As a business, would you trust someone that breaks NDAs and leaks company secrets?

[@adamyami2902]

Damn clickbait thumbnail.

[@boboboz9541]

she should, like, totally join Nijisanji

[@otaking3582]

Never join a VTuber agency for any reason

[@TehLoco23]

Phase connect!!!...

[@Ecco_The_Dolphin]

Thats what i was thinking

[@happygimly6061]

I love Phase Connect but Doki is just too big for them. She's bigger than Pippa by a decent margin and Pippa is their biggest draw by a decent margin. They don't really have anything to offer her. Realistically nobody does, not even Hololive really. Doki is better off being indie.