Dokkan Battle Categories Make No Sense

[@legendaryred24]

Correction: I was made well aware of Goku Black’s situation and that he has Kamehameha from SA 1-9, just forgot because I never used him under SA 10 for 9 years I’ve played this game lol.

[@leventesarkozi9494]

Basically the thing with the kamehameha category is that one of the units super attacks or the active skill has to have the name kamehameha in it, so seza goku black is KINDA logical cuz his 1st super attack has the name kamehameha in it.

[@brandoncole5533]

​@@leventesarkozi9494don't forget counters in that too. That's how phy ssj4 vegito is on it

[@Elijjb1103]

The fact that they added all these units to the buu saga but they won’t add Janemba to demonic power even though he is a demon

[@legendaryred24]

Demonic power is bizarre because it isn’t referring to hell or demons per se (follow with me). It is referring to the demon realm itself, so like Majins and Namekians, and those who learn power from them

[@gamerfan5878]

That’s why gohan is on it because he learned from piccolo

[@legendaryred24]

@ yes

[@Elijjb1103]

Thank you I understand it now, but I just think that they should be more loose with it and just throw him on the team 😂. But I see why he is not on the category tho.

[@legendaryred24]

@ fr

[@ghazaramjad2681]

FINALLY A VID THAT IS CATEGORY RELATED AND YET IM STILL PISSED OF THEM NOT FIXING IT LIKE LR GOHAN FROM BROLY SECOND COMING AND TEQ ULTHAN NOT BEING ON BOND OF MASTER AND DISCIPLE

[@legendaryred24]

@@ghazaramjad2681 Yeah that honestly makes no sense too. Like Gohan lost his disciple during this time🤣

[@nachozacho1407]

Another category with “major” problems, is worldwide terror 1.1: omega shenrons, literally spreads malignant energy all over the planet Lord slug: converted the earth with darkness Turles/team turles: drained the earths life force with the tree of might Golden frieza from movie 16 (literally destroyed a city to say hello, and ofc him Blowing up the earth like a sour loser

[@legendaryred24]

@ fr

[@Retardedgokufan75]

​@nachozacho1407 it's also weird that cell max doesn't have worldwide chaos considering his active skill is him destroying earth

[@jgoofy8233]

Worldwide Chaos doesn't necessarily have to do with destroying a city or the planet (the former is hardly a threat, and the latter already has a category)

[@TayenRamburan]

Bro LR str future Gohan isn't on Kamehameha yet his active literally has him doing it...

[@legendaryred24]

Literally the best example of how garbage categories are

[@GorillaGutti]

Lr Bojack movie Gohan does one too

[@legendaryred24]

@ yeah

[@crowofjudgement4718]

Kamehameha isn't in the name. That's why

[@legendaryred24]

@@crowofjudgement4718 so? Neither does the LR INT SSJ Trio’s supers or LR PHY SSJ Trio’s Supers but they are on it

[@bradenmiller6473]

Power of Absorption is more of a catergory that absorbs a person/animal. That is why fu is on the category cause he absorbs Doki Doki bird while Goku was just the energy of the tree.

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah that would make more sense then🤔

[@jerrymanjoe]

One of my biggest issue with a category is a lots of Goku Cards missing Bond of Master and Disciple. For me, the biggest one is MUI Goku not having it, because he achieved the form specifically because of Whis.

[@legendaryred24]

@@jerrymanjoe Yeah that is interesting 🤔

[@erwan55]

Also, Cooler and Freezer are not in the Siblings' Bond category, even though Cooler compares himself to his brother every five minutes.

[@legendaryred24]

@@erwan55 they hate each other tho

[@SenatorArmstrong2018]

You can’t really bond with a sibling if you hate them lmfao-

[@emanuelhenrique5402]

Tbf its not like bonds cant form by hatred XD

[@legendaryred24]

@ true lol

[@diegobermudez6465]

Note to LR, TUR Goku Black does use a Kamehameha, but once's at Super Attack Lvl 10 it changes to Black Power Ball.

[@legendaryred24]

Oh really🤔

[@bradenmiller6473]

Yeah it was weird that is the only case i think that has ever happened but it is true if you have Sa lower then 10 you get black kamehameha instead of the power ball so that is why he is on the catergory

[@Stitchking]

@@bradenmiller6473 INT Buuhan has a similar mechanic

[@Colby2002]

5:54 I'm pretty sure is that Fu is on power absorption because he absorbs Dogidogi (The evil time bird from Heroes), and not from the Universe Trees energy. His full card name even confirms this being 'Fu (Youth) (Dogidogi Fully Absorbed), as opposed to Goku's where its 'Super Saiyan God SS Goku (Universe Tree Power). The Power Absorption category is based on power gained from absorbing someone else, and not an inanimate object.

[@legendaryred24]

That would make sense 🤔

[@karma77112]

The fact that vegito and goheta is on pure saiyan on legend make me wonder why they're not the same on dokkan

[@legendaryred24]

@@karma77112 only thing I can think of is balance

[@Avsece_]

Its just saiyans in legends, not the same as dokkan. It even has characters like Super Baby 2

[@legendaryred24]

@ interesting 🤔

[@heroicxidiot]

I think they took the 'pure' in pure Saiyans quite literally. Any taint or combination is considered not a pure Saiyan. It's also why Goku Black isn't on Pure Saiyans. Even though, technically, it's Zamasu in Goku's body.

[@panpatj9140]

@@heroicxidiot wouldnt that make them hybrids saiyans?

[@BasedMysticPikachu]

One that's never mentioned is how no Golden Freiza is on Realm of Gods but Jiren is despite clearly not having God Ki.

[@legendaryred24]

@@BasedMysticPikachu Yeah Golden Frieza should be there for sure

[@emiliocastrochale173]

Gotenks and all his variants were added to Hybrid Saiyans because the category was stillborn and had no usable units, so it was added to give it more variety.

[@legendaryred24]

@@emiliocastrochale173 yeah this is what makes the most sense. For balance reasons they were included but Vegito and Gogeta weren’t

[@Dargin77YT7]

​@@legendaryred24 that still doesn't make much sense tho

[@eearr8732]

It's probably because Akatsuki wasn't sure if fusions are still "pure" or something else, possibly kai/metamoran depending on the method. Hybrid fusions are hybrids either way, part saiyan, part something else.

[@legendaryred24]

Maybe

[@wack2194]

Also Goku Black is "Saiyan" in Legends but not "Pure Saiyan" in Dokkan shows "Pure" really is emphasised here because goku black is technically a Saiyan but not purely

[@crowofjudgement4718]

Exactly. Compare the fusions to fusing two pure metals. Two pure metals of a different type don't make a pure metal, but a mixed metal.

[@legendaryred24]

@@crowofjudgement4718 so shouldn’t they be on Hybrid Saiyans

[@crowofjudgement4718]

@@legendaryred24 Probably just meant to be part humans part saiyans that are on hybrid saiyans

[@CorruptEngieJR]

Corrupted form Zamasu should be on corroded body and mind, sense mentally he was pretty insane at that point. Also the Vegeta card that fights Super Perfect Cell has his passive named “boiling rage” but is not on exploding rage.

[@legendaryred24]

@@CorruptEngieJR I’m surprised he isn’t either especially because Rose is

[@Lukattie]

corroded body and mind (by the wiki) means someone (zamasu) that took control of someone else's body (goku), that's way every goku black is on corroded body and mind even though by the name it sounds like "someone who's crazy or whose body is corroded"

[@adrieltb]

For phy black goku in "Kamehameha", it's because he has 2 two SA I think. When his SA is between lvl 1 and 9, he does "black Kamehameha" and when his SA is lvl 10, he does "black power ball" so they put him in "Kamehameha" because of his first SA

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah I’ve caught on now, he’s so old I forgot he had gimmick. Tbh tho he should be removed from the category at SA 10, bro Is on Kamehameha throwing a Power Ball😭

[@mikaru3483]

2:30 I did not expect to get hit with spanish Frieza lmao Great video, finally someone talking about how inconsistant they are with categories

[@legendaryred24]

@@mikaru3483 appreciate it, and lol

[@er_xungoh]

literally that one archive video about frieza and 17 with (wrong) spanish dialogue

[@legendaryred24]

@ lol

[@crowofjudgement4718]

4:40 Cooler literally decimates a planet he's on in the very first movie when he heard of his brother's demise

[@legendaryred24]

@@crowofjudgement4718 Cooler doesn’t destroy anything, that’s just Frieza’s supernova that shows before they fly off. They are just chilling in the ship

[@crowofjudgement4718]

@legendaryred24 Imma need you to watch the Cooler movie again. I said he decimates a planet when he heard from Salsa (thouser) that his brother got killed by a saiyan.

[@legendaryred24]

@ he still doesn’t destroy the planet tho. Though this shows him as a terrifying conqueror tho.

[@thiedrickpeng7810]

Majin vegeta's one is most likely to be the "ressurection" of the old vegeta from the saiyan saga, since he wanted to become that "cold-blooded saiyan elite" once again

[@legendaryred24]

Just seems like a bit of a stretch tho

[@samthebagman4643]

Resurrected Warriors refers to characters who've been revived one way or another, Gohan is on the category cause the warrior in him was "revived" with the Ultimate form being unlocked, Vegeta's cold killer ideals were resurrected with Babadi bringing out the evil in his heart

[@thiedrickpeng7810]

@@legendaryred24 well, not like there's a better explaination

[@legendaryred24]

@ oh no I agree lol, but to be fair he shouldn’t have been there at all

[@samthebagman4643]

@legendaryred24 you also have to think of the state of the game at that moment, Res warriors was a very limited category, which is why they decided to add characters like MV and Ulthan on there, kind of the opposite of Pure Saiyan back in the day, Pure Saiyans was so good that adding the Fusions on there would break the category, and they just never amended that philosophy because the state of the game doesn't require it, Pure Saiyans doesn't need the fusions, Hybrids now as always needs Gotenks

[@Willzb-xk4ew]

Im still trying to figure out how majin buu and bojack are time travelers

[@legendaryred24]

Technically because Buu is an ancient being. Same with Bojack

[@hiyymekuge]

is because goku got consent from the universe tree

[@legendaryred24]

fair

[@shinjiru724]

For the Planetary Destruction i assume it is based around characters that are CONFIRMED to have destroy at least one space body (Like Garlic Jr saga Kid Gohan and Int Jackie Chun)

[@legendaryred24]

Cooler is assumed tho, on screen he never blows anything up

[@shinjiru724]

@ I mean the planet where he is at the start of the movie is a wastland so i think he definetly blew it afterwards

[@ProShidder]

Note: I did NOT edit this video, that's why the surprise isn't there. You'll need to wait for most likely the next upload for my surprise.

[@legendaryred24]

?

[@Luffee]

Actually I was wondering the other day why STR Goku & Vegeta (Angel) weren't on all out struggle, they literally were struggling against Buuhan and had to use their final trump card which was Vegito. Perhaps they didn't add it because of Vegito?

[@Luffee]

Same with TEQ Goku (Angel) & Vegeta (Angel), same scenario as the devs might be considering Gogeta so it isn't classified as all out struggle.

[@legendaryred24]

@@Luffee Maybe, but the fight was fairly short. They never really got to near death but they got desperate

[@legendaryred24]

@@Luffee same reasoning for this as well

[@kirua258]

Actually, the Struggle wasn't Manga Canon, they fused immediately. And even like this, it would be difficult to count an all out Struggle... While you fight without transforming, even if you have three more or two more in Vegeta's Case. They didn't went all out

[@Jaunecraft_972]

0:47 Idk maybe Fusion aren’t actually PURE Saiyan,like Goku and Vegeta are born Saiyan,but Vegito and Gogeta are more like a fusion of Saiyan and we’re born by fusion or idk

[@legendaryred24]

Sure but then why aren’t they hybrid

[@Jaunecraft_972]

@ They aren’t human

[@indrainspace2601]

​@@Jaunecraft_972 if being human was part of the equation then shouldn't Vegenks be hybrid saiyan since Trunks is half human?

[@indrainspace2601]

Then how come units that fuse into Vegito and Gogeta don't lose the pure saiyan category? Same with Teq Kefla. Also shouldn't this same logic apply to Gotenks since they are a fusion of two half saiyans? It wouldn't make sense for Gogeta to be apart of this "fusion" race if Gotenks isn't.

[@Jaunecraft_972]

@ Cuz idk categories doesn’t change,they were Saiyan before fusion,so it counts

[@fused_fighter16]

I assume cooler is on planetary destruction due to the supernova already being shown to destroy a planet (the supernova blowing up planet vegeta)

[@legendaryred24]

Maybe🤔

[@nachozacho1407]

While on the subject Why tf wasn’t lr cell max on it (active skill literally destroys the planet on its ko screen) And if we’re pretending that cooler is on the category cause it’s statet that the supernovas are planet level destruction, then why isn’t omega shrnrons not on the category, for the exact same reason??

[@fused_fighter16]

@@nachozacho1407 Lr cell max probably isn't on it for the fact that his attack never did or was never shown to destroy a planet canonically. Most fighters past frieza can destroy planets but never do so, hence why they're not on the category I don't remember much about GT so idk if i'm right but i don't remember any of the shadow dragons actually destroying a planet, or using an attack we've seen in canon that has destroyed a planet (statements don't count for being on the category)

[@trickyvic6501]

Dbs trunks not on connected hope when his super attack is literally called final hope slash.

[@legendaryred24]

Fr

[@ramirogomezbazan4504]

Why are the hirudegarn and broly second coming movie characters on majin buu saga!? I mean is cool and kind of makes sense gameplay wise but if we are going to do that, then lets put the android 13 and broly movie on androids cell saga, cooler and stuff on planet namek saga, and garlic juniour an stuff on saiyan saga. I would not mind putting sagas on movies due to it helping teams but only benefiting majin buu saga is unfair in my opinion. (I just want to put the LR Int trio on teq super trunks team lmao)

[@legendaryred24]

@@ramirogomezbazan4504 I think this will be adjusted in the future. Because this is a very recent change, so I would imagine they will put the movie characters to the respective categories (maybe)

[@ramirogomezbazan4504]

@ The only changes I will accept are 1. Be super restrictive basically nerfing everything or 2: Be more open and make changes as I presented honestly the second one will be more fun and may actually benefit them due to more characters being usable on every team because for example some people wont summon for TEQ Buuhan because they do not have a power absorbtion or majin power team

[@legendaryred24]

@ fr

[@Avsece_]

it was to make it consistent with the *old* units Like seza dragonfist was on it but the other 2 (teq lr,str DFE) weren't They only added it to characters who had previous versions on it, thats why Videl didn't get added to it even tho others from the same movie did Edit: and the reason the old ones were on it was to help buff the category, since it was a new system, and there were way fewer units

[@manuelzelaya8973]

Thank you for saying all this, even if I or anyone else already knew its still good to know that someone is pointing out the issues with the categories. And my personal gripe is the fact that Gohan is on demonic power and i’ll never really fully understand it

[@legendaryred24]

It is because Gohan learned the demon way from Piccolo

[@manuelzelaya8973]

@ i mean I guess i can kinda see it, but i only see it through like str/agl piccolo and gohan, maybe young gohan, but anything else after Namek saga and during cell games just doesn’t fit too well if im being honest

[@kirua258]

@@manuelzelaya8973 To be fair, Masenko means "Demon Flash of light". A lot of Gohan Cards does have a "Masenko" or a "Special Beam Canon" attack, which ARE Piccolo's skills. Also, Gohan's Style is clearly based on Piccolo's.

[@manuelzelaya8973]

@ Yeah after some time thinking yeah that makes sense now

[@Militanto53]

1:20 he actually does use it if you haven’t maxed out his SA levels, but you have.

[@nachozacho1407]

Dokkan needs a domain update: I sleep Dokkan needs a category update: real s**t Edit: on majin vegeta being on ressurected warrior It’s more because he was returned to his villianous self (Metaphorical)

[@legendaryred24]

Lol

[@EDDYSUNSHINEv2]

I feel like there are instances of it due to how the translation carries over from JP to Global, if that makes sense. I can't quite think of an example. ..Another note, saw this from a very old video I can no longer fully remember, but OP speculated that Gogeta and Vegito are not on Pure Saiyans for balance reasons. Do I believe that? Not as much anymore. Just some food for thought ig.

[@legendaryred24]

The OP is right to be honest. This is what many believe because back in the day if they were on Pure Saiyans they would’ve broke the game. Why haven’t they added them now? No one knows

[@eggoman5522]

Small question, in 4:59, why does it say SUPER TE on those units? I've never seen them before

[@lolitecuwu2380]

Spanish lang, My footage, I forgot to change it to eng

[@Ssj4gogetagaming]

2:18 pretty sure he does a Kamehameha on his 18 ki but its still not called it

[@Samiii022]

i think for maj vegeta and ult gohan on resurected warriors, they meant characters who came back to their "warrior self", ulthan fought like he did back in ssj2 and vegeta "wanted to be like he was before" a merciless killer. only reason i could find lmao

[@legendaryred24]

@@Samiii022 sure, but it just doesn’t feel like it really fits with the whole theme of the category though. That’s more like a Powerful comeback than anything

[@lightyoshiman]

(pan on her knees crying): please please please can I be a peppy gal!?!? Dokkan:HAHAHAHAHA...........no also loved how datruth posted that one clip of nappa saying they were on earth for the dragon ball's yet LR Nappa or Vegeta are on seekers of the dragon ball

[@Tarek-mf9gu]

Pan ain’t on there because in DB Roshi explained that a peppy gal can’t be too kiddie but can’t be too old.

[@lightyoshiman]

@@Tarek-mf9gu guess bulla filled out fine for a girl younger than pan huh

[@legendaryred24]

Lol

[@legendaryred24]

I just find it weird too because Pan literally is on a Peppy Gal banner… how is she not on it😭

[@mrcatsu6527]

About planetary destruction, the key word is destruction, not explosion. Cooler conquered and left many planets ruined (as we can see in the movie) so basically he destroyed them, maybe they were not turned into space dust like Frieza did with namek, but dust is all that were left on those conquered by Cooler. Also Hirudegarn is on this category even thou we never even have a chance to hear about planets that exploded because of him. And the same goes for Turles. Planets destruction =/= Planets explosion

[@legendaryred24]

Perhaps 🤔, but then why are the Shadow Dragons not on it?

[@mrcatsu6527]

@@legendaryred24 We all know how categories are working in Dokkan xd

[@legendaryred24]

@ lol

[@sebastiankon123]

About time you made a video talking about the categories Dokkan being Dokkan... But aside that, hopefully they at least could do something about it

[@legendaryred24]

@@sebastiankon123 fr

[@shiausagi8198]

4:52 because the category is named "planetary destruction" not "universal destruction" :v... But i do think it may have more to do with like, if the character had threathned to destroy the planet or if he alteady had done it. But yeah... don't justify Omega not being in the category... (Also, teq majin Vegeta may ne refering to when he died in Freeza Saga? I dont know, but yeah, this category is an mess.) About the energy abaorption, i think its because the absorption is mean on an more "evil" way.... Maybe the absorption is more related to "stealing" energy from others? The all out struggle maybe refers to point of the fight they where... i mean, if Chaiotzu Sa was he blowing himself up, Tien using the single handed final Kikou Ho, and etc... the characters are not in the point of the fight where they were desperate and almos out of power(imo, i dont even know if it does have units that'd prove me wrong)

[@legendaryred24]

Power Absorption sure I can see it but Planetary destruction still have many issues with it. Like I said why isn’t Goku on the category when he charged his Warp Kamehameha and everyone worried the planet would be destroyed. So idk it is weird. Also why would MBS Vegeta refer to Namek Saga Frieza In terms of the Saiyan Saga fight, yeah idk they should be on All Out Struggle lol. Kaioken Goku is, so they definitely should be as well

[@a.g.whit3941]

i'd like to mention that the same thing for vegito and gogeta is seen in kefla who is not a pure saiyan, also why is cell max not in planetary destruction? his active skill literally blows up the planet, even tho is a what if situation i never recall cooler to have actually destroyed anything, it's just weird, in the end another category that imo is just inconsistent is space-travelling warrior, there are units like dbs broly who should be in there but they are not, also why every unit of the tournament of power is on the category but not universe 7? it makes no sense

[@fireshadow574rb]

imagine they see this and decide to remove hybrid saiyans from every next new gotenks we get (or worse all of the gotenks' we have)

[@legendaryred24]

@@fireshadow574rb 😭

[@Percyco]

Btw Goku Black has the Kamehameha as a TUR, he changes Super Attack at SA 10. As for All-Out Struggle it should absolutely include MUI AGL. As for Cooler, since he's part of the Frieza race of tyrants who just blows up shit for fun, I think they took for granted he's a Planet Destroyer, even if he didn't destroy a planet. Meanwhile, Omega Shenron just died before being able to do anything and Goku is just a good person. Also, Omega Shenron ISN'T on Worldwide Chaos

[@charlie-cv5df]

Now imma say this once. And once only. Why. The fuck. Is PHY SOH trunks.NOT ON FINAL TRUMP CARD?!?!

[@legendaryred24]

Fr😭

[@samthebagman4643]

@charlie-cv5df Trump Card implies a plan, Fusion is always a back of the mind plan for Goku, and same with the spirit bomb, Trunks getting the hope energy was not ever the plan for him, it just happened

[@nachozacho1407]

@@charlie-cv5df and connected hope Actually every dbs future trunks units, should be on that category (Literally called sword of HOPE) + he was more or less the last hope for his future

[@trickyvic6501]

​@@nachozacho1407Hope is basically trunks middle name lol

[@idisplayvelocity7007]

For the planetary destruction category, I think it applies to those who have and/or will continue to destroy planet sized celestial bodies, for example, we’ve never seen champa destroy a planet but that doesn’t mean he didn’t destroy a planet before, we can apply this logic to cooler, who have destroyed planets before and will continue to do so. For piccolo and why only some of them is on this category attribute to the fact that the piccolo cards are the ones that destroyed the moon to prevent Gohan from transforming to ozaru, he does not have the intention to destroy planet after this so that’s why later piccolo cards such as orange piccolo or kami piccolo are not on it.

[@legendaryred24]

That doesn’t make any sense. This is because if it is people who could destroy planets then this is anyone in dragon ball. If Jackie Chun can destroy a planet then everyone stronger than him can as well, which means everyone would be on it

[@idisplayvelocity7007]

@ this is not a matter of power level, but a matter of attribute, Jackie chun destroyed a moon (a celestial body) at the time, which gives him the attribute of planetary destruction, but roshi obviously does not want to destroy anymore moon or planets after this since there are no incentives to destroy the planets, thus we see that other roshi cards does not have the planetary destruction category. Similar to how goku can destroy planets but obviously will not because it is not of his nature to do so.

[@idisplayvelocity7007]

@And you are twisting my words, I did not say people who could destroy planets, I said people who have the motivation or who at the moment of which the dokkan unit takes place successfully destroys a celestial body are given the category of planetary destruction.

[@mihneadragu1116]

Imagine lr int cell not being on kamehameha because, despite doing one on 18 ki, it's called "planetary destruction wave"

[@legendaryred24]

lol, luckily he us tho

[@samuelfohara]

Gotenks on hybrid saiyans makes sense because a hybrid by definition is a combination which a fusion is, which is also aided by the fact that both goten and trunks are hybrid saiyans already, whereas gogeta and vegito would be hybrid saiyans made up of pure saiyans, so it makes sense to not have to tag to avoid confusion

[@heyyou322]

I see it, but in the same logic why aren’t they on hybrids then? Not saying you’re wrong, it just seems dumb to have them not be pure sayains or Hybrids

[@AaronV1]

Yeah...but then Vegito and Gogeta are on Saiyans in Dragon Ball Legends...and the Saiyans tag there, isn't it the same as "Pure Saiyans"? And even then, is a Pure Saiyan + another Pure Saiyan, so... wouldn't that make another Pure Saiyan?

[@davidmccarthy3573]

It seems after the introduction of 23rd Goku they started putting characters who do the Kamehameha on the category regardless of the attack name and many units after but, I feel now as they should go back and either remove or add certain characters to the category.

[@legendaryred24]

@@davidmccarthy3573 true

[@santyagocuellagarcia1434]

I like this video, but i wanna say, Cooler is on this category" Planetary Destruction", for the same reason as Vegeta , he attempted to destroy earth, he literally has the Super nova, like his brother, and has the power to destroy a planet, vegeta's the same, in saiyan saga he attempted to destroy earth, and namek vegeta still counts as planetary destruction so, well, that's it, but great video!! I just wanted to add that.

[@legendaryred24]

@@santyagocuellagarcia1434 Vegeta is on Planetary destruction because he actually did destroy planets as shown in the show. Namek and Saiyan Saga Vegeta are the same classifications because they don’t draw a line until he achieves SSJ. Same reason why Goku is on Low Class warrrior until he goes SSJ

[@santyagocuellagarcia1434]

​@@legendaryred24 right , didnt think about that, thank you dude, keep going with the videos you do!

[@bosssoider1854]

bro forgot they dokkan can't remove tags, only add them thats why some golden frieza has a namek saga tag

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

1:22 goku blacks SA *is* a kamehameha, black kamehameha sa9 or lower, so it counted

[@legendaryred24]

Which is fine, but I mean if they want to be strict in the Kamehameha category he should’ve been removed after SA 10

[@aokyoutsuki7744]

@legendaryred24 its the same reason why SR buuhan got it too, he got kamehameha as a super, and you cant just yoink that away, extreme case being WT cell, where his ssr SA was ol kmhmha, his TUR year(s) later isnt, but cuz of the "cant yoink away" rule hes stil in ol kmhmha category Would you want exchange units suffer from not getting leader skills too? like back in mono alignment leads when ssj2 vegeta > majin he loses the super type leader skills buffs? Same premise

[@raspberries9998]

Ive stopped trying to make sense of Dokkan categories ever since I found out both LR Jirens and UI Goku are NOT on exploding rage. They all literally scream in anger?!?!

[@legendaryred24]

@@raspberries9998 They weren’t really ruthless to each other tho. Towards the end of the their fight they had respect for each other and UI wasn’t even born from rage. FP Jiren tho I think should have been

[@tumelomasipa9410]

Dude the Gogeta,Vegito and Kefla not being pure Saiyans but Gotenks being considered a hybrid will forever have me confused tbh.

[@legendaryred24]

Fr

[@darkauroraxcix7499]

I think its a case where fusing doesn't make them pure because theres something else there, while the hybrids dont need to worry about that, its like how goku black is not on pure saiyans, he has all of gokus dna and stuff, his ki is the only difference

[@legendaryred24]

@@darkauroraxcix7499 Perhaps, but I mean Goku Black isn’t on Pure Saiyans the same reason why Baby and Ginyu Goku aren’t which is because the soul is not a Saiyan. I don’t think this logic necessarily applies for fusions that involve two Pure Saiyans

[@ILoveGoku2]

as for the planetary destruction category the reason Cooler is on there is most likely since he is a planet conqueror like his brother Frieza, it indicates he conquers, sells and destroys planets

[@legendaryred24]

@@ILoveGoku2 maybe still is a bit of a reach tho

[@ILoveGoku2]

@legendaryred24 best i could think of

[@ankhtokari7895]

"WE SAIYANS HAVE NO LIMIT!" "LET'S CHARGE TOGETHER AT FULL POWER!!" Not on "Full power" category, Goku lies as naturally as he breaths

[@legendaryred24]

@@ankhtokari7895 😭

[@Dargin77YT7]

Oh yeah and LR str five guys aren't on movie heroes which pisses me off, and LR teq hatchiyack also isn't on movie bosses, characters from broly second coming are also on majin buu saga which doesn't make any sense whatsoever, additionally, beast gohan and LR int fp ssj4 goku aren't on powerful comeback as well as the fact that LR int broly is on powerful comeback which doesn't make sense because he loses to plot, he's also on resurrected warriors which also makes no sense as he gets out of an ice river/lake and doesn't get killed by goku's full power fist

[@Salmon_Lamb0]

Fun fact: Pandel is on Hybrid Saiyans, even though she is not a pure fusion between Hybrid Saiyans (one full human + one quarter saiyan)

[@legendaryred24]

@@Salmon_Lamb0 interesting 🤔

[@pxrisw]

Fun fact GOKU JR is on hybrid saiyans even tho he is the grandson of a quarter saiyan so he’s probably like 1/16th saiyan

[@ametozukumazu6073]

My favourite Category fumble is SSG Goku not being in Super Heroes when his theme is literally named Hero meanwhile MUI who said "he is not Hero of Justice or anyhting else like that" is in.

[@legendaryred24]

If you are referring to PHY Godku it is because he is from the BOG movie which makes him a movie hero. The INT Godku is on Super Heroes and not Movie Heroes because he is referencing the retelling of BOG in DBS. MUI is in Super Heroes because he is a hero in super.

[@ametozukumazu6073]

@legendaryred24 I was refering to PHY one, they even referenced Hero in his active. It's not like legit criticism just a funny coincidence. AGL MUI being single U7 Super Unit without SH would've looked weird but I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. Also, I didn't know DBS Movies with anime series aren't included. Always thought RoF Super units are in SH.

[@legendaryred24]

@ No the PHY Godku is based on BOG so he is movie heroes, unlike the INT Godku which is based off the anime so he is Super Heroes

[@ametozukumazu6073]

@@legendaryred24 Yeah, I got that first time...

[@TheAerogost]

Teq Krillin and Gohan have the kamehameha link and catergory, but they dont even do the attack in ssr or tur form???

[@legendaryred24]

The Metal Cooler one? They aren’t on it

[@TheAerogost]

@@legendaryred24 oh your right, my bad i be lying sometimes i guess

[@epicmagikarp1]

Another example of planetary destruction being stupid is lr Cell Max not having the category yet he blows up the planet with his active skill

[@legendaryred24]

Fr

[@hunglam5022]

You forget to mention Peppy Gals Category because that category has missing some characters that should be in there, for example: Supreme Kai of time, Aeos, and the female angels

[@legendaryred24]

I was gonna say it is because they are divine beings but they definitely should be there lol. Maybe not the angels but Aeos for sure

[@Dasunmorgenstern]

A category you missed that is relevant to this year. Space Traveling Warriors. Why is Broly not on this? He literally traveled around, destroyed South Galaxy, then traveled to North Galaxy to the planet where the movie takes place. Every version of Broly has literally traveled through space, and is a warrior.

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah Space Traveling Warriors is a weird one

[@hazing1433]

Id like to think for Vegito and Gogeta, they were "born" using a specific technique and not exactly born purely normally Although ive got no explanation for Gotenks being hybrids though but it could be them already NOT being a pure saiyans themselves

[@legendaryred24]

Maybe but if we go by that logic then Gogeta and Vegito should be hybrid as well

[@Ramwashere56]

Cell Max STR doesnt have Planetary Destruction despite Blowing up the earth in his Active

[@metal7305]

Gotenks is in hybrid first for need and second in japan is called mixted saiyan and that is why gotenks and no vegetto in pure saiyan

[@legendaryred24]

@@metal7305 So then why aren’t they on Hybrid Saiyans then?

[@metal7305]

@legendaryred24 because gogeta and vegetto are too op for the category and maybe because they are fusion of pure saiyan and they are not mixted with nothing gotenks is still 50% saiyan and human

[@crimsonskydeath]

SEZA Goku black changes SA from black Kamehameha to Black Power Ball at SA10 if he was at a lower SA level even as a TUR.

[@nightmare9930]

I think the issue is that a lot of these categories suffer due to the translations and meaning For Fusions not being on pure saiyans but being on hybrid saiyans is because hybrid sayians mean mixed-blood saiyans, and hybrid saiyan fusions retain that trait, unlike pure saiyan fusions. It's still dumb tho imo For Ressurected Warriors the reason Majin Vegeta and Ultimate Gohan are there isn't because they themselves were revived, but their fighting spirit was. Although Saiyan Saga Goku, Namek Saga Piccolo, and Buu Saga Goku being there would make sense. Not to mention that Angel Goku with the 24 hour revival is on the category, but Angel Vegeta isn't, tho he at least is after revived by Porunga. Another things I can think of is Giant form, where characters who are already massive aren't on the category because they have to transform into that giant state And the other one being Janemba who's not on Demonic power, because demonic power means "Power of the demon clan" which Janemba was never part of

[@legendaryred24]

I understand demonic power, giant form is just dumb tho lol. The category already sucks why are they trying to make it worse😭. Resurrected Warriors is just dumb all around I don’t think there is enough explaining one can do to make that category make sense. Fusions, sure I get it, but then shouldn’t Gogeta and Vegito be Hybrid Saiyans? Since they are no longer a Pure Saiyan?

[@nightmare9930]

@legendaryred24 With Giant form it's dumb because it basically gets treated like SSJ Unless you can't transform into a big boi, you aren't on it. That's why Tapion who transforms into Hirudegarn is on it, but not Hirudegarn itself Also with the fusions, the pure saiyan fusions wouldn't be on hybrid Saiyans because the people who fused aren't hybrid Saiyans. It's dumb too but there's not much to be done there either

[@UltraGreenNo.57]

I still can't get over LR Tec ssj2 gohan not being on the kamehameha category. His final attack literally has him utilising a kamehameha combo.

[@legendaryred24]

Which one?

[@UltraGreenNo.57]

@legendaryred24 LR Tec ssj2 gohan (Teen)

[@legendaryred24]

@@UltraGreenNo.57 yeah that is weird

[@cooper2211]

The reasons the fusions weren't on Pure saiyans was back before categories were a thing Vegito & gogeta would've broken the game where hybrids was more all over the place comparability wise. Which is why we have rarely gotten standalone fusions and instead are goku & vegeta in one form or another. Why they haven't retroactively added them laziness probably.

[@legendaryred24]

@@cooper2211 Yeah this is the theory I have as well

[@TSGenki]

Pure is defined as “not mixed or adulterated with any other substance”. Gogeta and Vegito don’t make the cut because they’re not a pure saiyan in the sense that they’re not an unmixed full blooded saiyan. Hybrid is defined as “the offspring of two plants or animals of different species or varieties”. Gotenks still makes the cut because he’s still half human and half saiyan and nothing about the category name says he would have to be a unmixed hybrid saiyan.

[@Velocity_YT]

I thought i was the only one who complained that Vegito and Gogeta were not on Pure Saiyans. I found that so stupid till today. And the non of the Brolys (Besides the LR Broly Cheelia and Lemo) havw big bad bosses as a link skill which never made sense to me.

[@legendaryred24]

Fr

[@RequiemSaber]

for planetary destruction i think the characters has to be canonicly destroy of be implied to destroy a planet as its implied cooler destroyed many planets

[@legendaryred24]

Perhaps 🤔

[@Maxae]

In the planet destroyer category I ask myself the question more. Why does LR INT Jackie Chun have that category?

[@legendaryred24]

He destroys the moon

[@Maxae]

@@legendaryred24 oh true, now i remember

[@---rk9sy]

Jiren being on Realm of Gods is so funny to me. "He's stronger than his God of destruction" okay so? He's not in a god form, it was never stated he is using God Ki unlike Toppo, he isn't any angel species nor was trained by any angels or gods. "But he can compete on the level of gods" okay how about the whole ensemble of non-god/god form characters that can do that? Broly, Golden Frieza, Hit, etc should all be there by that metric then. Hell, let's throw Trunks in the mix too because he fought Zamasu. What's frustrating though is for every character like Jiren who shouldn't be on a certain category, theres at least 5 five other characters who should be on a certain category. They've done a good job with QoL so far but they need to take a deeper look at how they go about categories.

[@legendaryred24]

@@---rk9sy fr

[@panpatj9140]

If their excuse for gogeta and vegito not being on pure saiyan is the fusion method being combined into them too wouldnt that still make them hybrid saiyans?

[@legendaryred24]

Exactly

[@doomiseternal201]

Ironic how In Omatsus eyes Janemba ain’t a demon even when he was stated to be a demon multiple times not only in the movies but also by the movie directors and Toei as well. And yes technically demonic power isn’t just demons, it’s majins and namekians due to the new Daima series clarifying namekians originated from the demon realm but I feel like Janemba should be the exception because he is pure evil. And pure evil is often associated with the devil.

[@legendaryred24]

Fr

[@hemomanteescarlate]

"Let's charge together at full power" is not on Full Power Category

[@legendaryred24]

😭

[@hazing1433]

I can hear the intro voices in my head💀

[@abrahamcalizaya2989]

Related to the video, can someone explain me why GOHAN is not included in the GIFTED WARRIORS Category? DBZ Broly was not included too but DBS Broly was included. For me not makes sense as both characters were born with insanely hidden power

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah that is a weird one🤔

[@NelShippuden]

Idk why the saiyan fusions are not on pure saiyans when they are a fusion of pure saiyans and lssj should be on ssj like in legends

[@legendaryred24]

@@NelShippuden fr

[@phatmana]

why isnt phy broly trio on space travelling warriors? ik broly didnt actually go out to space but he did ride on a spaceship prior to fighting goku and vegeta and traveled to somewhere in space (vampa) via the dragon balls so why???

[@legendaryred24]

Fr

[@sei7015]

I think Cooler Is planetary destruction because two thing, they say in the Movie cooler already destroy and conquer planets like Freezer, Also one of the scenes before go to the Earth he Is in a already Desolated Planet,So he basically wiped everthing in it

[@legendaryred24]

That would make sense but Omega also implies the same thing

[@norbertbluhm6999]

Jiren being on RoG despite not using God Ki is another Case. Him being on that Category without using God Ki implies that he is in the realm of Gods in terms of Power because he cn hild his own against God ki Users,but that would mean that basically every character that fought against anyy version of Goku post BoG should be on RoG

[@legendaryred24]

I think because it is “realm” maybe? But that is such a reach.

[@bosssoider1854]

nah it just confirms base goku post bog is not = to bog god goku

[@Avsece_]

Realm of Gods never implies you need god ki to be on the category

[@norbertbluhm6999]

@@Avsece_ in that case every Golden Friezer and everyone that fought against God/Blue/UI/MUI should be on RoG, since they are able to hild their own against a RoG Level Character.

[@bananaman5704]

Plus all out struggle and entrusted will. All the top saga characters apart from the angels should be on it, because they literally are fighting for the universe and fate. Should also add battle of fate too

[@legendaryred24]

@@bananaman5704 fr

[@rashedmaitta9974]

Don’t forget that STR SSJ4 vegeta and AGL ssj4 goku does not have Super saiyans category

[@legendaryred24]

@@rashedmaitta9974no form above SSJ is on Super Saiyan category

[@FLUFFMASTER1196]

Majin vegeta is probably his evil side getting resurrected

[@legendaryred24]

Perhaps, just seems like a reach from their part tho

[@joocyfruit2]

⁠@@legendaryred24he’s got a point though, as evil became a memory babidi brought back as a whole new being

[@legendaryred24]

@ Sure ig, but then why not include units like Toppo who resurrects his GOD side or GT 17 who also resurrects his evil side? Just is so inconsistent and a far reach

[@FLUFFMASTER1196]

@legendaryred24 Toppo was being trained as a God of destruction he didn't resurrect it he just put his training to use and GT 17 is being brainwashed to be evil

[@legendaryred24]

@ Vegeta was also brainwashed…

[@Darth_Box]

Vegito not being on pure saiyans or any potara fusion involving saiyans makes sense because they are a completely different being that just inherit the same characteristics of saiyans but not genetic material, but Gogeta is a fusion of the 2 saiyans and their strengths are magnified so it doesn’t make sense that he’s not on pure saiyans but gotenks is on hybrids. I can see the argument for saiyan potara fusions not being on pure or hybrid saiyan categories not make sense tho, and I’m open to criticism about that lol, this is just my opinion

[@legendaryred24]

Sure but why not be on hybrids then?

[@Darth_Box]

@ because gotenks is a fusion of hybrids while gogeta is a fusion of pure saiyans

[@thomashawk5788]

I personnally would talk about units that have movie heroes and buu saga at the same time while clearly it shouldnt be possible, i know that there are multiple unit but the one coming to my mind is goku super ztur agi that has both

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah it is a weird change for sure

[@dogollie2715]

Why is bio broly and broly second coming not on buu saga? Their movies are supposed to happen congruently with the buu saga and the hero’s in the movie are on the category but the villain aren’t?

[@legendaryred24]

No clue 🤔

[@ExoticDestroyer8530]

to explain why majin vegeta is on resurrected warrior, it is meant figuratively not physically. which is the resurrection of the "old evil vegeta" personality. ok this figuratively thing is load of shit why is non-dead mbs ssj3 goku not on it, elder kai died to revive him????????

[@legendaryred24]

Yeah it is just weird

[@Escalopsito123]

Algo de lo que no hablaste es que future gohan no entra en kamehameha, por alguna razon parece que dokkan toma que kamehameha con 1 brazo = not kamehameha category

[@legendaryred24]

@@Escalopsito123 fr, he literally has an entire active skill with the Kamehameha and he isn’t on it

[@Escalopsito123]

@@legendaryred24 y también el hecho de que hay muchas unidades que lanzan kamehameha por ejemplo gt duo 8vo ani, z duo 8vo ani, golden duo, gofreezer, para mi dokkan no quiere que sea tan extensa la categoría pero el hecho de que hay algunos caso que tiene 300 transformaciones como buu str y porque en 2 lanza un kame ya entra en la categoría, yo creo que debería ser extensa la categoría porque así como los saiyans es la categoría principal ya que el prota es de esa raza de la misma forma el kamehameha es la técnica insignia del prota

[@legendaryred24]

@ exactly

[@diegobermudez6465]

I think it's because the name is "Another hope", but it's still stupid to not put him on Kamehameha​@@legendaryred24

[@ILoveGoku2]

i think the reason Gogeta and Vegito arent on pure saiyans is cause when you fuse (Both potara and fusion dance) you use magic to fuse them, so while Vegito and Gogeta are like 90% saiyan they are like 10% magic hence why they arent on pure saiyans.

[@legendaryred24]

@@ILoveGoku2 So then why aren’t they on Hybrid? Better yet why are they on Pure Saiyans in Legenda?

[@ILoveGoku2]

@@legendaryred24 well they arent exactly on pure saiyans in legends, legends calls the category "Saiyan" so maybe by legends requirements anybody with over 90% saiyan dna gets the category "Saiyan", as for why they arent on hybrids i dunno, Dokkan makes some weird choices, they probably made the first Vegito/Gogeta without pure saiyans/hybrid saiyans category and decided to stick with it

[@legendaryred24]

@ maybe idk

[@shiausagi8198]

I don't get why every Goku after Freeza saga lost the "low classl warrior", i mean, become the super saiyan don't change the fact that he was born from an lower class breed.... it just dont make sense, like all bardocks except the one from the specia don't have the "team bardock" on the tags.... i mean, he still uses the headband band he uses to symbolize his comrades, it makes no sense.... Oh... and if i may ask, Why Ginyu is on the "mental corruption" category?

[@legendaryred24]

Eh, idk I disagree a little bit here. I feel like you shake off all classifications as a Saiyan if you become a legend 😅. Ginyu because he corrupts the mind of the other body. Same reason why Goku Black is on it

[@Dymphna666]

Cell Max not being on planetary destruction is wild because he literally destroys the planet on his active. If Cooler is on it, why not cell max?

[@legendaryred24]

Exactly

[@creatorcontent5858]

SEZA Goku Black does the Kamehameha in his TUR state if you leave his SA level below 10.

[@lucazaroli6761]

If Janemba was included in demonic power on release, nobody would've said anything. Nobody would've questioned it. Anybody who brings out the erm actually on janemba is just wrong and justifying a wrong decision. And why isnt golden frieza on space travelling warriors huh?

[@Anonimus299_0]

Idk if this happens to you guys but beast gohan and bio broly are stangely in the fusion and resurected category,i think this is a bug

[@legendaryred24]

@@Anonimus299_0 The what category?

[@Anonimus299_0]

@legendaryred24 fusion and resurrected category,they are both in the same category for some reason

[@legendaryred24]

@ I don’t see it on my side, Broly is on resurrected warrior which makes sense

[@Anonimus299_0]

@legendaryred24 i didn't read his kit on the official dokkan site,i started reading his kit After i unlocked him, my bio Broly wasn't on that category before

[@Anonimus299_0]

@legendaryred24 if that's his category then that's ok but i don't think Beast Gohan should be there

[@isaacshell1660]

Another category I feel is very inconsistent (and kinda underated) is miraculous awakening. That category. SHOULD NOT BE AS SMALL AS IT IS. It's missing too many key characters that ABSOLUTELY SHOULD be on there! M.A. doesn't have ANY ssj3 characters, none of the golden Friezas OR Z brolys, and ZERO majin buu cards, even tho he LITERALLY had a miraculous awakening. The category should be thriving in the meta rn, but ig it'll survive off of 3 good units (it won't 😢)

[@legendaryred24]

@@isaacshell1660 I disagree a little bit here. Goku’s SSJ3 was not miraculous he already learned that before hand. Gotenks I believe also already has SSJ3 before that fight as well. Broly already had LSSJ before that fight as well. Golden Frieza also had his transformation before the fight. Essentially the transformation has to occur during the fight

[@isaacshell1660]

@legendaryred24 Well if we use your logic, what about super Saiyan god? Goku was given practically no time to master the transformation during battle, and fell out of it because of that. Plus, Goku was given plenty of time to complete the ritual and attain the form, and that was before battle. I feel as though M.A. should be given to cards if it was the audience's first time seeing that character transform/power up to that level (or literally wake up with a lot of power). With this logic, it would answer any questions about why the characters and transfos I mentioned would be in it, while disregarding the specific info about how the character achieved said power at what time

[@BadComedyReviews]

The INT broly & Paragus is only on Pure Saiyans and Joined forces yet th attack is called “Revenge order” and paragus is trying to get revenge on vegeta because his dad exiled broly so THE MOTHER SLAGGIN UNIT SHOULD BE ON MOVIE BOSSES, REVENGE, AND SUPER BOSSES!!!!!!

[@legendaryred24]

Not Super or Movie Bosses but not on revenge is criminal

[@satoshi5700]

I think the pure saiyan thing makes sense beacuse a pure saiyan would need to be a full blooded saiyan that is not tainted in any way, but once you fuse you are no longer "pure" beacuse that "pureness" has been tainted eith the fusion

[@satoshi5700]

However hybrid saiyans don't need to be pure in any way so gotenks still counts.

[@legendaryred24]

Maybe but why not hybrid then🤔

[@satoshi5700]

Beacuse its not called "pure Hybrid Saiyan" its just called "hybrid Saiyan". I would understand your point if pure Saiyan was just called "saiyan" instead​@legendaryred24

[@satoshi5700]

I also think that Cooler being on planetary destruction makes sense beacuse the supernova wasn't just said to destroy a planet but demonstrated with 1st form frieza, whereas moves like the kamehameha and the minus energy ball had no such demonstration

[@AnotherNobody3005]

Another weird character in the planetary destruction category is Jackie Chun and Saiyan saga Piccolo. Bro the moon is not a planet lmao

[@legendaryred24]

@@AnotherNobody3005 too them it does ig lol. Its round its in space guess that means planet 😅

[@AnotherNobody3005]

@legendaryred24 I mean when you put it like that lol

[@legendaryred24]

@ lol

[@bananaman5704]

Phy goku black does it, however if you level his sa to 10 it changes to the black power ball

[@legendaryred24]

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[@bananaman5704]

@@legendaryred24 lol my bad 😂😂

[@shiyndiaz]

Cell max should be in planetary destruction after all in his active blows the planet... 😂

[@legendaryred24]

@@shiyndiaz fr