Domi or Bertuzzi?

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Jonathan Hawkey

Jonathan Hawkey

Күн бұрын

Nhl toronto maple leafs - Stanley cup finals 2024 continues tonight with the florida panthers vs edmonton oilers game 3 , but obviously with the mitch marner trade rumors and plenty of incoming offseason leafs moves with so many expiring contracts on the roster , nhl news and rumours are swirling preparing for the busy season for brad treliving. Tyler bertuzzi max domi contract extension vs free agency is one of the biggest looming, and we discuss some toronto maple leafs news today on that front. With the new auston matthews william nylander deals kicking in and other trades plus signings that need to be made, this will be very interesting. For all things nhl hockey including recaps and reaction to oilers panthers stanley cup final games , player-specific videos, leafs news and more - subscribe. Nhl today
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@DarkFlareGC
@DarkFlareGC 3 ай бұрын
I'm rooting for Max Domi. I have always enjoyed watching him play, even before he joined the NHL. This was a guy that I had always hoped would one day appear on the Leafs. He is talented and versatile and is one of my personal favourites on the team. I really hope he stays in Toronto.
@CoolDude-55
@CoolDude-55 3 ай бұрын
As a leafs fan, I really want both to stay because they work so well together and papi.
@maxbolton5227
@maxbolton5227 3 ай бұрын
For sure they helped Matthews score a lot of goals in the playoffs
@s1acker6
@s1acker6 3 ай бұрын
Bertuzzi didnt work well at all, what makes you think he should stay?
@CoolDude-55
@CoolDude-55 3 ай бұрын
@@s1acker6 I just think he is a good pkaymaker
@s1acker6
@s1acker6 3 ай бұрын
@@CoolDude-55 he was 8th on the team in assists, he is slow, 5million is too much, domi is a better playmaker and more mobile
@CoolDude-55
@CoolDude-55 3 ай бұрын
@@s1acker6 yes but if he is so bad, then why was he on Matthew’s line for more than half the year
@armcuts
@armcuts 3 ай бұрын
MItch Marner is the leaf's version of DeMar DeRozan. I respect him but him going needs to happen
@toddpick8007
@toddpick8007 3 ай бұрын
DeMar won a playoff series.
@peterlawrence7427
@peterlawrence7427 3 ай бұрын
@@toddpick8007 almost as if they beat tampa last year o.0 so it's exactly as he says
@tylerjohnson8973
@tylerjohnson8973 3 ай бұрын
​@@toddpick8007lol dumbas
@davidmorris6254
@davidmorris6254 3 ай бұрын
@@toddpick8007 what year is it in your head?
@joshmoxey.
@joshmoxey. 3 ай бұрын
Domi. Guy bleeds blue, shows great potential and the effort is always there. Cares about being a Leaf unlike few players on this team. I would be over the moon if he returns. As for Bert, I wonder if he could get better output under new coach but taking that risk does make me nervous because his production was so spotty this year. If they do sign him though I'll probably be cool with it so long as it's a reasonable AAV with minimal term
@northhaven2501
@northhaven2501 3 ай бұрын
Domi wants to be a Leaf, Bertuzzi just wants to play. I lean towards Domi. He earned my respect when he wore that baby blue blazer in memory of Bob Cole.
@dvon1097
@dvon1097 3 ай бұрын
Anyone but Matthews and Nylander should be available for a trade
@SlimeLordGoalie
@SlimeLordGoalie 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Treliving screw that up for the Leafs like he did Calgary.
@RBMGD
@RBMGD 3 ай бұрын
I feel we should add rielly and woll to that conversation too
@shoresy4084
@shoresy4084 3 ай бұрын
Matthews and nylander should have been gone as well. All 4, plus Reilly Sammy and most of the roster. Keep knies woll edunson
@pajamatime5750
@pajamatime5750 3 ай бұрын
@@shoresy4084Thank God you’re not the GM!
@NotaGabeItch
@NotaGabeItch 3 ай бұрын
@@SlimeLordGoalieDon’t say that. So far he hasn’t done that with the leafs. Hopefully he learned his lesson in Calgary. I just don’t see him making any big trades with him the leafs.
@iamNotHereB
@iamNotHereB 3 ай бұрын
Keeping them both makes trades and signings of others much easier.
@jonathancastonguay5606
@jonathancastonguay5606 3 ай бұрын
Habs fan here, absolutely loved domi when he was with us, Toronto should keep him
@blakejames9952
@blakejames9952 3 ай бұрын
They are both exceptional players.
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija 3 ай бұрын
Simply put a team can’t be competitive if they use over half the salary cap on four guys who don’t keep the production up in the playoffs
@scottjohnson3971
@scottjohnson3971 3 ай бұрын
So true .. that’s why Edmonton is getting dog walked in the finals
@marcusa6601
@marcusa6601 3 ай бұрын
You tell him Scottie
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija 3 ай бұрын
@@scottjohnson3971Lol why is it that people attack my team regardless of the context. Regardless they are in the finals which is better than the Maple Leafs have been in over 50 years
@scottjohnson3971
@scottjohnson3971 3 ай бұрын
@@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija why you crying? I agree with your point.. you can’t build a team around a handful of players.. that’s why the leafs struggle to do anything come playoff time and Edmonton is being trounced in the finals.. you bring up context and that’s what makes this funny, an oilers fan lecturing on cap management.. lol ok Have fun with Draisitals next contract
@Dougthethugglatt
@Dougthethugglatt 3 ай бұрын
@@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavijaactually 31 years
@joshuamaduri2792
@joshuamaduri2792 3 ай бұрын
If Toronto has extra cap space I think hronek would be a fantastic fit! He played great with Quinn Hughes and he could possibly be a great fit for Riley. if he doesn’t sign with Vancouver that could be a possibility
@AllDayShorts247
@AllDayShorts247 3 ай бұрын
I want both, BUT, they NEED both! Just can't over pay when D and G are priority!!!!!
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
Yep exactly I’m cool with keeping both as long as they don’t overpay them
@nicholasgraham7487
@nicholasgraham7487 3 ай бұрын
I agree--they should try to keep them both but only for what they're truly worth. Regarding Marner, as much as he frustrates me during the playoffs, he still makes defensive plays that a lot of defensemen don't make. Guys who can score close to 100 points and play defense that well are going to be tough to get. That said, if the Leafs can get a Roman Josi or Jake Oettinger type of player for him then do it.
@Konanan
@Konanan 3 ай бұрын
Both have the grit you need in the playoffs
@s1acker6
@s1acker6 3 ай бұрын
Worked great this year....
@__._._-_._.__
@__._._-_._.__ 3 ай бұрын
If it’s ONLY one give me Domi. Hoping they can get both signed along w pesce, 3.5-4 each for Bert and Domi and 5 for Pesce.
@rosariocannistraro3561
@rosariocannistraro3561 3 ай бұрын
If Pesce would sign for five then the Canes would have signed him last season .
@Shantiomari
@Shantiomari 3 ай бұрын
Pesce gonna get 6 apparently
@washedhands7774
@washedhands7774 3 ай бұрын
Not a leafs fan but i watched a lot of their games this year and if it were my team i would want to find a way to keep both. They’re both beauts
@nayman2801
@nayman2801 3 ай бұрын
wtf i grew up with Rosehill, didnt know he was still involved in the space at all
@thetroy6108
@thetroy6108 3 ай бұрын
Yo, same
@Sir_Sydney_live
@Sir_Sydney_live 3 ай бұрын
Domi, he bleeds blue and honestly is (obviously not of the same caliber) but I think he'd be a great somewhat replacement for Marner which frees up the leafs to say hey McCrimmon. You want Marner for Theodore and a 2nd or smth? (obviously not exactly that I'm not the GM here lol) but like that would be a great trade for the Leafs and would help Marner get to a new situation which might do him some good. (think Sam Bennet) execept reverse it lol, I think he's also the most likely to sign a "hometown discount" and he seems like a nice glue guy with some fight and bite. He did amazing with Matthews so give it a shot!
@xrsroofingsolutionscanada2151
@xrsroofingsolutionscanada2151 3 ай бұрын
Domi for sure but Bertuzzi wasn't the Detroit Bertuzzi but I do think a major problem with these netfront style players didn't work because of Keefe not demanding big shots from the point.
@jimlangdon1947
@jimlangdon1947 3 ай бұрын
Domi - the Leafs just need help with a playoff style centre
@ouromov2895
@ouromov2895 3 ай бұрын
The Leafs anguish must continue, at this point its like the 2nd draw for an audience and hype to the actual Stanley Cup Finals and 2nd round onwards that the Leafs will never make unless they shake their players up lol
@Jimmyfly215
@Jimmyfly215 3 ай бұрын
i think if anything is more obvious than ever in today’s NHL, roster depth is just too important if you truly want to compete. if the Leafs cant trade Marner to free up space alone, and knowing tavres cant be traded, you're telling your fan base you are punting next season away. thats it in a nut shell
@KevinBrevin
@KevinBrevin 3 ай бұрын
If it was possible. Getting them both at 4.5 x 4-8 years would be perfect. If that line with Matthews still cooks then it’s a no brainer.
@ChrisPerry-v1m
@ChrisPerry-v1m 3 ай бұрын
Lot going on right now .... I like bolth of them as hockey players I don't know how thay are off the ice ..... I could see my self playing with them that tipe of players ... but I think thay are both wingers as am I..... im deff not ready yet but hopefully soon never know !!! GOD will be done .... but happy to here the team got some money left 100% ❤
@talanlee223
@talanlee223 3 ай бұрын
They have to keep both but if you have to only keep one it’s definitely Domi ‼️
@jlo2o199
@jlo2o199 3 ай бұрын
I don't like either of them! Just can't get on board with the current leafs team. Thought I was a fan until I realized " how can you be a fan of a team and not like half of their players?" Leafs have what Blackhawks fans have. a pretty jersey that'll keep people fans.
@JackMacd
@JackMacd 3 ай бұрын
Hot take. Leafs trade marner to flames, get the goalie they need and some assets. While freeing up some cap.
@francescoravenda5070
@francescoravenda5070 3 ай бұрын
Both
@Craprat
@Craprat 3 ай бұрын
Bertuzzi is mind frigged after getting moved from detroit and domi is a player in the wrong era as well as toronto maple LEAFS being a dumpster hockey organization. And then walks in a Chief… to lead these warriors to victory… watch oot eh
@NotaGabeItch
@NotaGabeItch 3 ай бұрын
Not even a question, Domi 100%.
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
I’m a leafs fan ik a lot of others want them to stay but here’s My question why do we have to overpay either to stay ??? I rlly Will never understand we need grit but 12 mill worth on 2 players when we need dman and a goalie I don’t thinks a great move and it’s not like your paying them to stay for matthews he was just as good before that line happened I can’t say the same for domi ig if you absolutely must overpay one it’s gotta be Bert. We need the extra scoring and Domi won’t offer that
@cahg3871
@cahg3871 3 ай бұрын
It really isn’t up to the fans,or even Treliving,it’s up to the money they will be offered on the open market.
@Nikkerman
@Nikkerman 3 ай бұрын
It really would screw over the team if marner stays, because I feel like Bertuzzi and Domi brought a lot to the team in the playoffs, while marner helped give up the OT game 7 winner
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
That goal was Reilly and Sammy’s fault watch it again not marner it was a dump and chase marner was coming from a line change and covered the lane for as long as he could Reilly froze and Sammy didn’t poke check so it was in simple as that
@CoNNorG111
@CoNNorG111 3 ай бұрын
Bertuzzi will hold more trade value, plus Domi wanting to rep toronto makes it an easy choice imo
@rosariocannistraro3561
@rosariocannistraro3561 3 ай бұрын
Isn't Bertuzzi a UFA ? .
@sereneprincess4940
@sereneprincess4940 3 ай бұрын
Tie Domi's kid and Todd Bertuzzi's nephew on the same team just makes sense. The Leafs need to have a solid foundation to build out from, because so many of their players are going to free agent status. Max and Tyler could easily become the McJesus/Draisaitl of Toronto, if Berube & Treliving quit tiptoe'ing around the concept of closing the revolving door that has been Canadian teams since Gary Bettman decided that Canadian teams are little more than player development farms for the rest of the league. And if Bettman sees this, I want you to know ya momma's a heaux.
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
I’m sorry I’m a leafs fan and I like both but mcdavid drai is who you’re comparing them to maybe they in terms of a duo could pass ig but if you’re talking abt playwise no way
@garretthohn
@garretthohn 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I'm just a casual observer who always enjoys watching the Leafs tank from afar but it's nice to see a deep dive into the many moving parts of an organization that provides so much entertainment to us year upon year.
@mitchellskene8176
@mitchellskene8176 3 ай бұрын
I'd go with Domi, since he'd be the cheaper option.
@J.CashDro
@J.CashDro 3 ай бұрын
Domi was top5 in the league for 5on5 assists last season. While Bertuzzi plays better in his own zone & scores more goals. Its gunna be a toss up if u ask me
@malcolmapplet4313
@malcolmapplet4313 3 ай бұрын
2(4x4) you can go one year longer in term but you have to come down under 4mil.
@SlimeLordGoalie
@SlimeLordGoalie 3 ай бұрын
gee wilkers badman id take the one with more fights so Domi.
@pierresoorden5975
@pierresoorden5975 3 ай бұрын
If the Panthers can win this (no confidence yet), I'm just hoping the Oilers don't win 44 of 60 next year
@HavokR505
@HavokR505 3 ай бұрын
they need to swap marner for a top1 d-man then resign them both
@michaelharrison5725
@michaelharrison5725 3 ай бұрын
Core 6, 10.5 million per year each 😂
@DeepFriedLotus
@DeepFriedLotus 3 ай бұрын
I would aim to keep Domi for home town money and use that as leverage to make a deal with Bertuzzi. If he's smart, Bertuzzi will deny the deal the play for a Florida team.
@bedbath9056
@bedbath9056 3 ай бұрын
Mathews, Nylander, 2 x 1st round for McDavid.
@c_telking4433
@c_telking4433 3 ай бұрын
Keep them both, and find a way to get the heist man Marner and his 10.9 off the books.
@brianbriscoe2630
@brianbriscoe2630 3 ай бұрын
I would like to see Toronto keep them both but if given a choice, Domi.
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 3 ай бұрын
I want Bertuzzi in NJ. We need another gritty power forward in our top 6. We're too small right now. Palat-Hischier-Meier is a great 2nd line, so having Bratt-Hughes-Bertuzzi as a 1st line would be great.
@__._._-_._.__
@__._._-_._.__ 3 ай бұрын
Nj picked up Keefe as a coach, That means every gritty player you guys sign will lose their grit. Idk what keefe does to these guys but they stop playing their game under him. Bert with boston was stealing sticks from people and bein a dirty pos every game. Under keefe it all went away so fast, keefes style of coaching isn’t good for physical players.
@gabetalks9275
@gabetalks9275 3 ай бұрын
@@__._._-_._.__ Yet Toronto was outhitting Boston in the playoffs, so I'm calling cap on this.
@thewavepilots
@thewavepilots 3 ай бұрын
I agree with keeping domi
@masterbaiters1183
@masterbaiters1183 3 ай бұрын
It doesn’t matter, Matthews and Nylander take massive steps down in the playoffs anyway
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
Wdym nylander he is leafs leading playoff goal scorer if anything playoffs seems to be where he starts heating up again
@masterbaiters1183
@masterbaiters1183 3 ай бұрын
@@Matthewkniesfan He puts up a bunch of empty points while being useless in 2/3 zones and bringing no physicality Hell this past year he was useless is all 3 zones… 2 of his goals came off the rush and his 3rd was a lucky floater that bounced in… in the zone, he couldn’t create anything against Boston which is part of the reason why the Leafs PP was so ass Nylander is a good player but he drives play way better in the regular season… He’s less dangerous and more opportunistic in the playoffs
@keaters123
@keaters123 3 ай бұрын
Leafs don't have role players , they'll have the same outcome next postseason. Cool that they get there but i have zero faith that they can build a contender with the core four
@josephandrews9742
@josephandrews9742 3 ай бұрын
Resist the urge to overpay him. lol. We are talking Treliving here and that is what he does, just ask Calgary.
@yuliojones4633
@yuliojones4633 3 ай бұрын
I think they should resign Steve Thomas, Gary roberts, Gary valk, and Igor korolev
@Dougie-ex1ov
@Dougie-ex1ov 3 ай бұрын
Domi easy. You can see he brings alot more to plays on the ice. He a much bigger contributor.
@NotAsianButFlip
@NotAsianButFlip 3 ай бұрын
Both…not even a question
@homer1268
@homer1268 3 ай бұрын
Love Bert
@hockey_highlights_and_more
@hockey_highlights_and_more 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to resign domi but he can’t be paid more than 4 million and bert is not worth 5 million, I think both guys would have better seasons in Toronto this time around especially playing with Matthews
@HavokR505
@HavokR505 3 ай бұрын
give him 8yrs/4mil. good upside, not terrible downside
@AndrewStro
@AndrewStro 3 ай бұрын
Domi. Let bertuzzi walk.
@JNJ1014
@JNJ1014 3 ай бұрын
Domi 100%, he is a better skater, he's got an elite skillset (don't @ me dude is a former 1st round pick) & if a new coach can get him to become defensively sound he's got monster potential + bc Domi has T1 diabetes, he's always got absolutely top top tier conditioning & should age better than Bertuzzi.
@vladalexiu646
@vladalexiu646 3 ай бұрын
cancuks offseason review please
@johnc3351
@johnc3351 3 ай бұрын
these 2 are worth no more than 3.75/year. They're barely 3rd liners on a good team
@juju31897
@juju31897 3 ай бұрын
we have no goalie, centre or d depth. forget the wingers.
@ratedRblazin420
@ratedRblazin420 3 ай бұрын
Neither lol 😆, Marner needs to go before anything changes with this team. I would also include Tavaras here, but he's not leaving before his contract is up. NOBODY is paying $11 million for an aging center like Tavares.
@anonymous134y
@anonymous134y 3 ай бұрын
bertuzzi needs to go back to boston. You can tell that boston wasn't the same gritty team this year. Bertuzzi also didn't play like himself in the playoffs.
@es5ape
@es5ape 3 ай бұрын
100 out of 100 for Domi!
@pierresoorden5975
@pierresoorden5975 3 ай бұрын
Bert
@ChrisPerry-v1m
@ChrisPerry-v1m 3 ай бұрын
Mich is a good player too i just need him to come chill in Scarborough abit with me ..... get some fuck you in his game the kid got skill just needs some sand paper in his tool box !!! No more worm up ice dancing shit .... straight up like no bro thats done now ... Toronto can fuck shit up i believe just need more parts still i think ..... back end stuff mabe see if wall is up to the task if not fuck .. we might need a goalie !!!
@JacqueDeGatineau
@JacqueDeGatineau 3 ай бұрын
both
@Vegland
@Vegland 3 ай бұрын
Love Bertz but Domi...
@Bdjdjsjsdbxnsiwnf
@Bdjdjsjsdbxnsiwnf 3 ай бұрын
Canadian teams can afford yo compete against US teams, TAX
@gordonbgraham
@gordonbgraham 3 ай бұрын
Domi
@farmonious420
@farmonious420 3 ай бұрын
Get rid of the grit and keep the high paid softies, that's how you win a cup.
@malcolmapplet4313
@malcolmapplet4313 3 ай бұрын
It's been proven time and time again!
@s1acker6
@s1acker6 3 ай бұрын
Bertuzzi was a bust, if he gets under 3mill a year he can stay, Domi has way more potential and breakaway speed
@ALTDOK667
@ALTDOK667 3 ай бұрын
Ditch Marner. Keep Bert and Domi.
@artiecoyote
@artiecoyote 3 ай бұрын
Domi...... no question
@fortnitedan3615
@fortnitedan3615 3 ай бұрын
bertuzzi stays he's amazing
@randoir1863
@randoir1863 3 ай бұрын
GET RID OF MARNER AND KEEP THESE 2 !!!! SEE that way easy !!!!!!!!
@bradmacdonald7626
@bradmacdonald7626 3 ай бұрын
Domi
@bakesnake21
@bakesnake21 3 ай бұрын
Nice
@MichaelThomas-ll1hw
@MichaelThomas-ll1hw 3 ай бұрын
BOTH, sell Marner and give Tavares away
@Gabryal77
@Gabryal77 3 ай бұрын
Leaf's fans fixing to find out what happened in Calgary. Trelving is going to screw you guy so hard. Just watch.
@percys9427
@percys9427 3 ай бұрын
The Leafs could care less if they win or lose , either way the Arena will be full A Losing Culture for almost six decades
@ShinAkuma204
@ShinAkuma204 3 ай бұрын
Need em both.
@gordonconrod7628
@gordonconrod7628 3 ай бұрын
I was surprised you said Domi. He’s more of a defensive liability IMO
@AlAl-b5j
@AlAl-b5j 3 ай бұрын
Get rid of Marner. Keep the other ones.
@AccipiterF1
@AccipiterF1 3 ай бұрын
I think Bertuzzi is the better player and that's why he won't be there. Someone else is going to give him a good offer.
@juvialockser9912
@juvialockser9912 3 ай бұрын
I NEED BERTUZZI AND DOMI BACK ON MY LEAFS TEAM
@Elsanna7
@Elsanna7 3 ай бұрын
Berdomi
@Allen-k6n1o
@Allen-k6n1o 3 ай бұрын
🙄🙄🙄
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija
@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija 3 ай бұрын
I am mad at how my team manages the salary cap then I look over at Toronto and I am not so mad anymore
@ShawnBlaque
@ShawnBlaque 3 ай бұрын
Don't check the contracts for Nurse or Campbell or you're going to get mad again lmao
@grcyvtcffuubucfuv
@grcyvtcffuubucfuv 3 ай бұрын
Boooo. Keep em both. They were the only ones to produce in the off season
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
No they weren’t so did Willy and knies also why do we have to overpay them to stay
@mkultra5752
@mkultra5752 3 ай бұрын
Those were there two best playoff players other then nylander this year so both
@biffstrong1079
@biffstrong1079 3 ай бұрын
Neither?
@williamthefloridano
@williamthefloridano 3 ай бұрын
I'm behind Todd over Tie any day of the week. Moore had it comin.
@DANZIG138
@DANZIG138 3 ай бұрын
Domi. Bertuzzi did nothing
@discoveryman59
@discoveryman59 3 ай бұрын
Domi vs. Bertuzzi bought very little, move on..
@moritzguderian8381
@moritzguderian8381 3 ай бұрын
get rid of bert he wants too much. keep domi his heart is in toronto. trade for ullmark. sign tanev simple
@_1COR15.1-4
@_1COR15.1-4 3 ай бұрын
Yup domi, 3x3.5
@shoresy4084
@shoresy4084 3 ай бұрын
Neither. Both are garbage, the entire leafs roster is garbage. Trade everyone and relocate the team and start fresh
@stevehannah8162
@stevehannah8162 3 ай бұрын
If Marner isn’t traded that’s dog shit
@busorenkin55
@busorenkin55 3 ай бұрын
Not a leaf fan but I would go Tyler Bertuzzi. Solid playoff performer and he’s a 20 goal scorer. Domi doesn’t score as much and not all his assists are primaries
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