DON'T BUILD A COPPER FARM.... Do this instead

With the EASY trick, you won't EVER need a COPPER FARM in Minecraft!
Today I will be testing a copper strategy in Hardcore Minecraft. After my research into copper farm designs, I started to question if they were really worth building. I will share with you all the pros and cons of a few different copper farm designs and put them to the test in game!
With my strategy, you can earn up to 1000+ Copper ingots per hour. That's almost 4x as much as LogicalGeekBoy's copper farm, 2x as much as Shulkercraft's copper farm, and over 2x as much as Rays Works copper farm!
This video was originally going to be a Hardcore Minecraft Let's Play episode but this week has turned into more of an analysis project, but it was worth it!
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[@SwitchBackMongo]

FURTHER DISCUSSION: One of my favorite things about Minecraft is that there never is one answer for how something should be done. One factor that makes a copper farm the preferred strategy for some players is the fact that you can AFK for the process, unlike mining. For an AFK Copper farm there are two options, accept the lower drop rates and AFK for longer amounts of time by letting the mobs die passively (no looting III) or use a clicker program and leave your player with a looting III sword at the farm to collect copper. For me, I definitely have and use AFK farms in my Hardcore World, but copper farms don't seem efficient enough to go the passive death route (959/hr is the looting III rate) and I personally am not comfortable enough leaving my player alone to kill drowned zombies knowing that if something goes wrong, I lose my world. So I'd be interested to hear, what is the best route for you? 😀 Do you trust your farm enough to go AFK with a clicker to kill zombies? I am way too scared of that option 😂

[@Tranitaur]

I don’t like leaving my hardcore world on farm for more than an hour. But I do on occasion. Thanks for the vid, cheers m8

[@zypno1614]

i was about to comment this but i think for you its the perfect strategy so many ways to do mc just do what you prefer

[@itssad3432]

This is so true, exactly when u add bedrock parity to java, so many things in the minecraft could and can be created or recreated. Even updates just show how minecraft has really grown. Mumbo jumbo somehow recreated his old farms from the og days of minecraft and made it even better by view or just functionality.

[@itssad3432]

But for me personally as a kinda if you don't need to do all of it don't do it kinda person i would mostly choose the zombie farm, but the other more efficient side of me would see the importance of the mob farm and would generally choose that. So just to sum up, it all really comes down to what your doing and how much your willing to do to get it finished. All together just go mining. :p

[@dorianista]

It depends from the player, tbh in your own world you can have farm that is not efficient as those mentioned in the video. I like gnembons design of this farm and If i will need more copper I will build it. The question is, do you need so much copper? Same goes for iron, you can always go mining but usually it is the case of being comfortable. If you need more of a certain resource you will go for automatic or semi automatic farm. If the build requires from me 1000 blocks of copper I would build the farm instead of going to mine.

[@marcraft3233]

A copper farm maybe slower than mining but you forgot the fact that you just can afk overnight while getting copper so in the long run a copper farm is definitely worth it!

[@gmanRL]

Im pretty sure he doesnt afk for days at a time on the world

[@AstroHorizon]

Afking farms like that on hardcore is not always a good idea and he addressed this.

[@marshalllee6376]

Nah mining would still get more than that

[@monireyna4944]

Right good

[@MisterGeof]

pretty sure he didn't forget lol. He just is speaking in terms of being worth the time to build vs time to mine. Thats all. Basically its preference. Some people would rather afk for it. Some people hate building farms.

[@jazzylev]

defo depends on your play style. for me especially with the 959/hr design i’d rather do that because i can just go afk rather than do the monotonous task of mining for an hour. but that’s also because i’m a junior in high school and just don’t have time to set aside for stuff like that; i can have minecraft running in the background while i’m doing my homework.

[@Legundo]

I really liked this one! I was legit just considering making a copper farm out of a zombie spawner... and you might have just changed my mind, or at least made me think of doing both.

[@dorianista]

Gnembons design is most often used and tbh seems very good.

[@NIX0LAS]

It depends how much copper you need. If you need over 28,000 copper ingots to make over 3000 copper blocks for an artistic build like me then just making a farm that utilizes zombie recruits and setting up a regen beacon for AFKing is WAY more efficient! No comparison.

[@ryan4105]

I agree that the spawner and general mob farm versions aren't worth it, but the reinforcement one's rates are actually really good, lower than other farms since the drop rate is rare but with the spawn rate is so high and it doesn't spawn any non-copper dropping entities (zombie villagers, baby zombies) it's totally worth it. I would've had to mine an entire biome to get the copper I've used in my base obtained from one relatively small farm

[@Fixxitt412]

Dude. Firstly, I’ve been wondering about exactly this, but second, your editing is the most polished and perfect ever.

[@amberaerojack5800]

man the editing of these videos have gotten so much better from the first episodes, I'd just like to say adding in those mini pictures of the effects when you were talking about the beacon was really cool :)))))))

[@toortoise]

Another amazing one mongo. Love to see a different style of video!! Hope your collaborations with tertel as an editor is going well [looking forward to your next series ;)]. Love this as always keep it up! :D

[@AstroHorizon]

Also copper rates from mining is being increased in 1.18. With fortune 3 you can get up to 10 copper per ore broken.

[@voidex_]

Plus drip stone caves

[@CloudFuel]

After scouring reddit and other sources for information on copper farms vs mining, I came up empty handed. Thankfully, I found your video and it was everything I wanted and more. Definitely subscribing and looking forward to more of your content!

[@fern7407]

I appreciate this video, around my spawn area there is a never ending drip stone cave with so many areas that I’ve mined more than 30,000 copper ore, and also found a copper vein. I also found an iron vein so the iron farm has been unnecessary as well. I appreciate these changes to the game for those of us who like mining instead.

[@Sharpness_VI]

Nice video your so underrated lol Keep up the good work

[@ludde2408]

Sadge, its already over :/ Great video though Mongo! You still manage to entertain on a high level, even though the theme of the video isn't really "entertaining" if you get what I mean. Short said, great vid :D

[@Stopher_]

I watched this while driving home and I got to say what a great video! I can’t believe just from mining you can get that much!

[@glovistorgames1938]

This is my week relaxation time

[@Chickens._.]

Bold move there Mr Mongo as we all know how heated people can get about minecraft opinions XD. Brilliant video as per usual.

[@singularity1130]

Can't forget the important thing about farms versus mining: The farm is stationary. This is a massive important thing for me and my mega builds because while I'm building mega-structures the farms are off to the sides generating more material. The scale of a build affects the time it takes to gather materials which pushes the final deadline to completion; this is why I give farms and their ability to be made anywhere I designate my large build very useful for saving time and effort.

[@potatototem4342]

YAY My DAY IS ALWAYs CHEERED UP WHEN MONGO UPLOADS

[@BYtheHORNsGaming]

I think another thing to consider with the Mining vs Farming approach is that, while yes you will get more copper in the short term for simply strip mining. The process involves slowly expanding outwards and eventually depending on how often copper is going to be used (which will of course depend on how mojang decides to implement the ore into future mechanics, like as an example if copper golems won the mob vote that'd be another potentially wide spread use) go further and further out. In saying that and with the added notion of potential terrain generation like the ones coming in 1.18 the process could become much less simple then strip mine at X for an hour, the danger will be exponentially greater, which while not necessarily being a bad thing could very well be a big thing to consider especially for hardcore. Also and this is more subjective then any overall issue, the ability to get the processed ingots as drops means you can amass enough copper ore to either use as a decorative block itself or the resource blocks. Personally with coal, gold, redstone, and iron with the appropriate farms being so plentiful and diamonds having limited uses past the first couple tools and enchanting setups, I've found myself silk touching the ore blocks in case the "need" arises for them or their resource blocks (which is more towards raw copper iron and gold) to be utilized for a build. And this is all before considering the implications of multiplayer survival worlds and the fight for resources that would inevitably bring. (which would be up to the people on the server if that was a good or bad prospect........ not sorry for the pun)

[@HereIAm247]

Mining is great, if you are already mining. In a normal world, you might already mine a lot, and will never need a copper farm. But once it is mined (even with fortune 3), it is gone. However, if you want to create copper as a renewable resource, a copper farm is the way to go. This way, you don't have to move around beacons, dig for an hour and depend on luck, dealing with mobs, and you don't have to smelt it afterwards. It will take time to build, but once it is done, it will be much less work than mining. For my superflat world, I definitely need to build one. :)

[@laurenlambdin2774]

What was that Enderman farm at the end?

[@HarryDevV]

Haven't watched the vid yet, but I bet this is ganna be great!!

[@coachmystogan]

Can always combine farms. As well, spawner farm with cactus xp smelting, perhaps

[@noname-codm4590]

Try modifying cubicmetre’s farm instead of using duped tnt, use potions

[@berkle]

Very good video!

[@TribleNerd]

I think that copper farms are good in areas that you already afk for passive copper. That being said to make a passive copper farm ya need even more stuff, so it may not be worth it to be your main source of copper.

[@jackybones5887]

Man you really went straight to the point lol

[@ItsTank_]

I was just watching his other videos waiting for his next upload, then I saw this

[@fortun8diamond]

Have you thought about ianxofour's copper farm? It produces 1000s of ingots per hour but very easy to build

[@casprl7270]

it's good but you cant really afk it. You gotta check back like every 5 minutes because it starts lagging so hard

[@Ryablol]

i definitely agree, but in my world, i am very stubborn so i would probably go through the trouble of building a farm to use it once for about 10 mins, get bored, go mining, and never use it again

[@joshuas.4969]

I wanna see an iron, gold, emerald, or coal equivalent of this.

[@elodkotro5936]

I know that on a hardcore word the whole idea of afking sounds terrifying, but for us the average Joes, building a simple copper farm is the way to go. ianxofor has a really great design, it takes less than 5 minutes to build, and it van get around 8 stack of copper in an hour. The quiestion isnt just the rates when you decide whether a farm is worth it or not, for me afking a whole night and getting 2 shulker boxes of copper is more apealing, but it all comes down to your playstyle. I just wanted to mention this middle ground to consider.

[@ReaverLordTonus]

Another thing to consider when it comes to farms vs mining is that farms spawn the resouce while the ones mined are finite. It may take forever, but inevitably you could mine every block of copper ore in the world. A farm takes that out of the equation and is unlimited.

[@hadessonofcronus1826]

Literally, it's basically reliability and consistency over slightly more resource and not the initial time investment... Majority of people probably don't know either of things like litematica and easy place mode. You can get a schematic and right click and it will place the blocks for you, makes it incredibly easy to build designs, you don't actually to have to understand the mechanics of it

[@domimextra]

i personally say, if u dont need that much copper like say only need like a few says of the blocks then u should mine for it, but if u need a massive amount of coper then go with the farm, the farm will produce more over time, while its completely random amount for the minning. its a fixed number but then again as u said, its all play style and no one way is better then the other.

[@cedriccappelle]

Ianxofour: hold my copper

[@sceneXchic1]

"Happy picks. Happy Mongo. And you!" :D!

[@the_stray_cat]

i think part of the point to building even a week coper farm would be to genrate it with out work, so even if you are getting 500 coper an hour , you afk over night and got yourself a truck load

[@Skyrimlizard]

Mining also lets you use a super smelter for VERY easy xp. Im on Bedrock and didnt know how to collect exp from smelters. But after like a week of mining everything i saw and smelting it (primarily copper) i got like 500 levels😂

[@masa_sjo]

Use TNT stripmining for higher gathering speed

[@MazziniFan]

New comment here but there now exist a better copper farm by ianxofour which is amazingly simple. Good job on vid as always

[@alimaghsoudi7148]

The super simple 100 copper per hour farms give you that amount over night without the need of doing the job yourself

[@NamelessI337]

HOW DO YOU MINE STONE INSTANTLY??? I cannot do it in my world even with Ef5 and Haste ll

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

"I'm gonna get straight to the point" >Does not do that

[@SpringonMC]

there is better farms than the one you found. Crimulus has a better farm than both of them and even mining. 1300 (may be 1600 actually) copper per hour farm is it, and it seems more worth it in the long run for copper. I really recommend making a copper farm too as gathering it manually can be tedious as well.

[@Trapdiggitydawg]

We back in the mines... no, actually, we should be in the mines apparently 😅

[@GamerM764YT]

My method on my realm is called "goining around stealing all the copper from the other realm members" and its like 3 stacks an hour sadly.

[@Escaper366]

This is so efficient

[@GrantCelley]

Can you make a rust lang farm

[@kyeplays3805]

Not everyone has your fancy enchanted nether it’s, and the point of the automatic farm is that you don’t have to do the work

[@fallenarchangel8709]

well, for needing around 2million copper, at least, i believe that building farm is still the best way

[@skii_mask_]

I can build a copper farm much sooner than I can get 3 beacons and a bunch of fully enchanted netherrite picks lol.

[@patrick3168]

Ianxofour has left the chat

[@EduPintilie]

I do not need any generators in my minecraft world. All i need is a crop farms ,animal farm and some other manual farms

[@SaberSJW]

I would recommend you build the copper farm that gives 900+ copper, since you won’t constantly be mining for copper and you would be earning almost a 1000 copper per hour doing nothing while you could be doing other stuff, but make it where the mobs die like by magma or something and put hoppers under them so you aren’t the one doing the work

[@HereIAm247]

Great Idea to make it able to run passively. I would maybe add an ability to switch between active and passive mob killing. That way, it will gather materials while you do other things, but you can also use a looting sword to increase efficiency.

[@memefia]

bro, you're like shulkercraft but with less subcribers. You deserve more subcribes man

[@kaioprieto]

today i got here almost faster than the speed of light 😅

[@scottbright2207]

In my hardcore world i just mine copper but i came t this video looking for a copper farm to build on my superflat survival world

[@ropxz7276]

you have to grind coal to smelt it. also afk is better, not wanting to just mine for hours. what if i’m asleep? also setting up more than 1 farm can produce even more than that. overall mining isn’t better than the farm

[@lonecrusaider]

Add a mob switch and go to the dripstone caves and yer good.

[@Leslie_AF]

I think if you’re wanting to mine, beacon mining isn’t the way to go. Just take your elytra and fly around picking up surface copper. I’m my experience it’s a lot quicker than what you’ve shown. (You can even bring obsidian and a flint and steel if you’re worried about it taking too long to get back to your base afterwards)

[@nazrin693]

This doesn't include mining at dripstone caves or giant copper vein

[@Phillap4]

I guess if i was a human that didnt need to sleep this would be worth it

[@cheeseandonions9558]

Copper ore is now more abundant than iron, so yeah, mining is definitely faster than any farm.

[@gravegaming2023]

Can't mine copper in your sleep, copper farm can give copper in sleep

[@sterlinggottlieb6575]

If he built the farm in spawn chunks, then he wouldn’t need to afk, he could go and do whatever he wanted. The farm would be a great long term project.

[@buddybrandongc5063]

918 ingots per hour automatically while doing something else > Spending an hour to get 1004 ingots...

[@comfyspy2123]

I personally hate mining, and anything that can help me avoid it is good.

[@NotBigSurprise]

i still prefer copper farms, for the sole reason that they make copper fully renewable i know it'd take decades to mine out an entire world, but still, i can't shake the feeling that eventually i'll run out if i just mine

[@arcsaber1127]

With fortune 3 you get 2-3 times that amount. and you get a lot more veins just exploring caves and mountains they seem to be everywhere. In 1 hour you'd get like 5 stacks of raw copper blocks worth copper atleast

[@elongatedcarrot3704]

You get so much copper from exploring caves with a fortune III pickaxe that it's nuts. I don't even use copper, yet, but I have so much of it just sitting as raw ore blocks. It truly is completely ridiculous. Edit: I noticed that zombified puglins will summon normal zombie reinforcements at an insane rate when they take damage from sweet berry bushes. Incase anyone needs an initial potato or carrot drop keep this in mind.

[@Heilzmaker]

tldr: just mine Me who's on skyblock: Lmao ok

[@Oscar-pv4qc]

I will build a copper farm. But I’ll make it so you don’t have to sit there and kill the drowneds. So I’ll make it at my base hidden so it’ll be working all the time. Which I then think it is worth it

[@sang5841]

Will u update to 1.18 plsss

[@SpringonMC]

already made one :)

[@broccoliboy9673]

Copper farm is hella slow but looking for a drip stone cave is the answer

[@gabrielbost8281]

Copper is affected by fortune so youd get a lot more copper using fortune then you would mining with silk touch when im mining copper for an hour i use fortune 3 and have a crafting table with me and within a hour ive already turned all raw copper into blocks of raw copper a few times

[@chrischris1688]

You can't afk mine. Afking for 10 hours is far better than mining for 1

[@sergeantsapient]

Copper is a limited resource through minung it's just unlikely you'd ever run out especially with fortune III.

[@fIamangoes]

* insert comment about how farms are afk-able *

[@Chickens._.]

Interlectual 2000IQ moment

[@tradys84]

i have 5 stack of copper block per hour from a simple copper farm so build a copper farm

[@shitalsawant1973]

1:57 I can get that much in a minute mining mega copper veins in 1.18 or normal veins in Bedrock Edition

[@ali-ft2su]

I agree mining is better than make farm especially in 1.18 where you can find a vien of henderd of ore

[@hugsfromdad]

Let put it this way, I went mining for copper for 6ish hours on 1.18, and wound up filling 12 double chests with copper ingots. The copper veins are beyond overpowered

[@TreacGags]

it is much more productive to go mining in caves instead of doing branch mining

[@ant_ig]

welp you can afk on them, allso you can avoid thorn by using mimecarft sweeping edge and high tier are relaebly

[@nathansternberg7080]

Love it

[@vangelisgru7271]

Idk id just mineout some mats and get a full stck of solid

[@subuwuuuuu]

i mined for around 45 minutes and got 3 stacks of copper blocks. dont strip mine when mining copper. just use caves

[@damnit5041]

Copper farm not worth it, this video worth it 🔥

[@kalancosta7650]

You should check out ianxofour’s insane copper farm! Hella exp and loads of copper

[@debnarn6903]

It's Wednesday my dudes

[@m4saurabh]

Fortune 3 + Dripstone Cave = ♾️ Copper, Or Fortune 3 + Copper Ore Vein = ♾️ Copper

[@user-xu6td7sc2t]

You forget about mining in copper vein...

[@jackoherone8172]

My problem is that I am playing modded MC, and everything uses copper

[@RealShimSham]

you forgot to count all the time it took you to set up the first becon and fly to the location and everything else you did before you started the timer.... :(

[@Mk_viral]

My advise is to make copper because in mining and farm there is only a little bit difference but in mining when you need copper you have to waste you time and in farm you can afk over night and all the copper you need and farm need a little bit of work and total worth it so you have to make copper farm for your fans and audience because everyone want to watch you to make copper farm

[@fahlur9880]

In super flat worlds, kinda have to make a copper farm >:D, further I found much better copper farm designs using reinforcements that utilize 5 minutes of setting it up. and they are very good for what they are ianxofour's "Minecraft Elegance: Next Generation Copper Farm (Java 1.17-1.20)"

[@itssad3432]

HE'S WHEREIN THE HAT 👒

[@artemis_furrson]

This comparison is unfair. You started the timer just before starting the mining and mined for an hour straight. You didn't consider the time for finding a site, building the beacon, mining a staircase down to copper level, mending your tools or smelting the copper. Additionally, 1 hour of manual labour is so much more expensive than 1 hour of automatic farming. Also you compared it to the rates of a 900 per hour copper farm, but there's an Ianxofour design that takes as little as 90 seconds to build and yields thousands of copper ingots per hour. The farm is so fast that it barely takes any time to warm up and reach full efficiency.

[@stealth_meister4939]

You'd have got more copper if you used fortune ;)