Don't Buy a Cinelli Vigorelli Before Watching This

[@andrewlucas246]

I'm not a big fan of cinelli but scored a free cracked gazetta, fixed it up rawed it and have been thrashing it for the last 6 years or so. I agree on the value side, but some positive points at least on my 2014ish model to keep in mind. 1- it has headtube reinforcement bands brazed on to reduce the chance of ovalisation and give good frame longevity after multiple headset swaps. 2- mine has a segmented fork rather than unicrown. note that unicrown is the performance choice for a steel fork even if ugly. they're lighter, stronger and have a better stiffness to weight. 3- the fork and dropouts on mine are stainless steel or at the very least have some kind of serious surface treatment to fend off oxidation. I darkened my frame with an acid wash but the fork goes lighter instead of darker. the dropouts are chewed up but not a spec of rust after all this time. 4- regarding tubing, the vast majority of columbus tubing is 4130. I understand the point that the tubing is pretty basic but it has benefits to it rather than just being a cost cutting option. It's a "classic" diameter which gives a particularly supple ride and vintage silhouette vs say the steel vig and reduced chance of buckling etc. It also has superior dent resistance compared to the identical diameter 4130 nova tubeset on the previous frameset I built and rode. In short- I agree that they're overpriced but there are some quality details that set it aside from the pack and nothing really dragging it down vs similar frames but price.

[@meowchubbycat]

I just bought 2022 gazzette, now im woried why he said so 😡

[@kotan2185]

I honestly like bikes with thin round tubes more than those 'aero' ones. Maybe also why i gravitate more to steel frames than aluminum.

[@FernandoHernandez-jw4yy]

I was like that as well but after a time I began to like both. It gives you an excuse to buy more bikes ;-)

[@danielphilipnavarro4061]

Same

[@ryand141]

Lookin to get a steel fixie but want a good quality one. Which do you recommend? Thx.

[@tomcruz3774]

Thats so sick. Hope you cover more frame builders

[@kimE2017]

Good luck in 군데! Your channel helped me get into fixed gears.

[@scottwaldo804]

The Cantu Aero Is Made By Cantu Bicicletas From Guadalajara, Jalisco it's Actually Made Of Chromoly And Some Version Are Full Carbon As Well As Custom Tailor For Each Rider If You Send In A Spec Chart

[@kevingonzales8304]

Dope seeing my vigorelli on the channel 💪🏻

[@D3Pr0ps]

Great to see more vids coming out!

[@willshaughnessy8515]

Now back to being made in Bella Italia.. Road or Pista.. A beautiful choice..Tig Weld or Super Corsa or Pista///cant go wrong..

[@jeremycaballero1677]

What fork was that on the spicer?! That thing was sick

[@kipcc3918]

its so cool in RoK. that even in FB Marketplace in the Airport, FIxed gear sellers were so prevalent, that made time fly fast in the airport.

[@juanpecan7089]

You can ogle fixie bling while you wait for your connecting flight? Thats amazing.

[@kipcc3918]

@@juanpecan7089 i was honestly just browsing seeing what was the bike trend of the area, I was surprised it was mostly leaders, Thrones, And other fixed gears for sale. Hahahaha. It was a 6hr lay over 😅

[@sonymicronin]

I have a feeling that Zach doesn’t like MASH 😂

[@ZachGallardo]

I like them, I just also like making fun of things that I like

[@passingoutthepieces122]

Zach likes Wabi

[@citrOhm]

@@passingoutthepieces122 I have two Wabis, under the brand name Csepel. Royal 4* series, from 2010. And the fork is AllCity. :)

[@thesrcsocsi]

@@citrOhm Wait what?! Tell me more about that Csepel pls :D

[@chelolelo]

Why doesn't Zach making fun of Wabi?

[@elbugspinetta]

The Colombian brand ''Gueco'' also makes some pretty decent Aero steel Frames, not my favorite ones in terms of style, but they are ok..

[@suhdud4646]

I just bought a new frame set and didn’t go Cinelli. Not because I can’t afford it but because I didn’t want to. I feel it’s such an over saturated frame set but the SHARK on the other hand is one that I would pickup if I wanted to replace my main frame set but then again I would do extensive research into other brands because I don’t want a generic build.

[@shirtlessGraveler305]

That’s a sic Cantù bike , love it !

[@moshdeenotabot]

10:00 "gets the cogs turning in our heads" - excuse me, more than one cog? ⚙️

[@roguecode2354]

cool bike but you got to want the aero look. the vig was 799$ not 1K for the frame brand new.

[@ZachGallardo]

Yeah that's the price in the US and maybe some other countries. Seungwan was talking about prices in his country: Korea

[@roguecode2354]

@@ZachGallardo word

[@zeyro31]

i am too broke to buy one but still watched

[@ZachGallardo]

I wouldn't buy one either, but I still appreciate it when other people do :)

[@SimplicityForGood]

Wabi with shipping and customs to EU is Over 2000 dollars! 😳😤🥴😭 Zach, why have you guys not created a EU department of Wabi Bikes so we within EU can order without custom fees and tax?! Please do it! Fixed Gear is huge here, and we need more good bikes! Please think about it🤠🤘🏻 we love Wabi too! 🇪🇺🍻🚲

[@ZachGallardo]

Yeah bikes are usually pretty expensive in EU. I'm just a guy that rides and loves my Wabi and tells you to go check them out. I just work with them and not for them. At the very least, I have an upcoming review for a bike that's available in Europe that's better than a Kilo TT :)

[@klarkolofsson]

Just get a Steamroller

[@SimplicityForGood]

@@ZachGallardo what Bike is coming up? Are you talking about the CMNDR from PoloandBike now then they are running their 25% late Summer discount?! Or perhaps that bike wasn’t that good if I remember your review of it correctly?! But is cheap, about 500 plus Euro… I cannot find a decent bike upgrade worth the money in EU! I wanted a Wabi Lightening but it went over 2200 dollars to have it shipped to Sweden 😩😤 such a bummer! And their cheaper Thunder they now said won’t come in many months in my size… just talked with them… Was so looking forward to a Wabi here in Sweden and the Thunder would have been great for our coming Winter! 🥶 “What's a ‘Wabi bike for a man like me in Cold Sweden’? After all, I suppose it would be frightfully dull, and boring, and completely ... completely wonderful.”…😇😅😆 still love Cinderella, she really got it right!🥺 I’ll keep dreaming of those 50 mm tires and a real Colorado steel frame plowing through the deep fresh slush snow under my spinning legs of coming cold mornings in the traffic heat of Stockholm Winters!🤔☺️😆🤘🏻

[@singlespeedsoulja8415]

No matter what this dork says (I say dork as a loving endearment) State Bicycle Steel fixed fears have durable and light frames for dirt cheap and are probably the best chromoly frames for the money.

[@joshmanwaring3848]

Thanks I went from getting a vintage mountain bike to wanting a 700c fixed gear to deciding to build a gravel bike, this is how they get em

[@citrOhm]

I like the first Vigorelli, the black-orange-yellow colours, the typo, and the material... but I don't like the price.

[@TheBalls2thewalls]

thats my bike, 59cm frame

[@citrOhm]

@@TheBalls2thewalls you lucky bastard, you 😁

[@Garanon5]

I googled them and all I found was a Texas-based co called "Cantu Wheels", so I guess they realized they'd have an easier time turning a profit by specializing in one part. Too bad because I'd love a unique steel frame like this.

[@adammedina3452]

Yo I’m Gona miss you riding and getting other people on there bike I’ll do my best to take up where you left off when I make my KZbin and twitch telling people to ride there bike. Also in Sacramento

[@chiefscotthoffman5237]

How about a show about your recent travels around the US? Did you take your fixed gear with you? What was it like to ride around the country in a F.G.? Scott😃

[@ZachGallardo]

That was just a vacation, so I didn't take my bike or camera with me. It's important for me to separate work/KZbin and play as to not go completely crazy. I love traveling though, so I'll be sure to make videos of my next bike trip :)

[@cyxloe]

What do u think of nero bianchi Zach?

[@event4216]

Probably I'm only FG rider I know of not having stickers on my bike but that's really matter of taste. Points for featured bike for having front wheel with no radial lacing.

[@sonymicronin]

I also have no stickers because I like a solid clean look. I had 2 stickers on for a week before I decided I didn’t like em

[@ZachGallardo]

I'm also a fan of the stickerless, clean look

[@aadisingh8443]

Please review the 2022 vigorelli

[@cendol987]

NItto shred bars, dura ace low flange to open pros, time atac pedals, sg75, 60/23 ratio, ESI EXTra chunky grips, specialized power saddle, thomson cockpit "I said my piece Chrissy" - Paulie Walnuts

[@greyguy.960]

Yeah, mine is steel and I love it. I had a full carbon racer and that thing was little and fast, yes but shock your eyes in your head plus I got hit by a car at low speed and it cracked the fork and headset. If it was steel nothing would have happened, I got the cash back on insurance but I wouldn't go through that again so bought a mountain bike and single speed instead out of the money.

[@addvurtbikes]

Is there a Santafixie Raval video in the making?

[@ZachGallardo]

Yup, it'll be up over the weekend

[@Erick_Bece]

I’m from the builder city, saddly he was biting off more than he can chew, had some quality issues and finally close before I could get mine

[@ZachGallardo]

That's too bad. They looked like some seriously nice bikes

[@jeffthatisit1962]

Do they still the cantu aero 2?

[@dave83104]

I like this bike! Looks like my vigorelli shark, would be interesting to feel how it rides. 🍻

[@Bw_sip23]

Have you seen the skream Magnum 22 frame ? Was wondering if you could recommend a frame or whole bike for someone new into the world of fixed gear

[@ZachGallardo]

I've seen them in person but never ridden one. A few riders in Taipei that I know ride them, and they really like them for the price

[@KillerDave187]

I wish mash wasn’t so rave vibe heavy :( and believe phil agreed to those lsd barf hubs

[@janeblogs324]

Is that 2.4kg including the fork?

[@rufusgillespie9940]

mans got the hidden thompson seatpost

[@dulcimerjunkie8516]

I get it. You don’t like the Cinelli. What about a Pinarello Lungavita. Might be my next fixie.

[@제주야생마]

really nice to see korean guy's bike especially on this channel ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@stevenssuenodemonio853]

Jealous because you're contracted to only ride that heavy purple wabi lmao

[@humildemarcelo]

WTF I'm form México and I never heard of Cantu track bikes! Gotta start digging

[@alexvalladares1070]

Let me know if they are still making frames or if they ever will again

[@marino4691]

so true!!!

[@Qrooklyn]

Looks like the Stanridge HSP..

[@ZachGallardo]

Also a dope bike

[@Tuffjobs]

You’re in Korea? You sound Californian! 😎

[@charlesm.8807]

Dang it!!! I already did!!!

[@ZachGallardo]

Vigs are cool too

[@marcjohnson4884]

dude, make videos while you r in the army

[@tartoras]

Can you still get these bikes?!??

[@ZachGallardo]

They haven't posted anything on their social media accounts in three years, so I'd guess no. You can try contacting them though

[@leebridgwater]

Loving my shark

[@mokujinsan9946]

Carbon bikes are for people that don't smile. ❤️👌😂

[@quijadriss7650]

But the stickers ad sooo much weight!!!

[@smallwang7]

The vigorelli shark is one of the only slightly worthy cinellis.

[@Koen030NL]

If you want an aero frame... just buy carbon. Was shocked to hear the weight of 2.4kg on this thing.

[@sonymicronin]

Lemme take it one step farther, if you’re not riding mainly on the velodrome you should buy a steel bike not aluminum or carbon

[@impface]

Akira vibes

[@jonathanzamudio9018]

You missed a perfect Premium Rush pun/plug...............

[@jonathanzamudio9018]

KZbin: Premium Rush - Have a Nice Day, Douchebag! 0:49

[@ultimobici.]

So, this frame weighs significantly more than the Cinelli, has crappy paint and gimmicky "aero" tubing. Cinelli have likely forgotten more than Cantu know about frame design. I'll take the Cinelli every day of the week.

[@andy-xz2uk]

damn that bike is so dope

[@richardheinel2823]

Cantu bikes dont exist anymore, so it shouldnt count as an option allthough you are right it is the better cinelli.

[@angelicafernandez9831]

There are an argetinian frame maker that do frames like this from steal, forever bikes

[@gavinsmith6257]

Damn

[@VeryAwesomeSheep]

Hmhm, when you are saying that bikes are expensive and you are rolling on a $60 tires

[@j4s0n67]

오오오 한국사람이에여??

[@sonymicronin]

Yeah I always thought cinelli bikes and the brand to be overrated and hyped for no reason

[@ZachGallardo]

They make great bikes, and they have a respectable history that some people care about. I agree that some of the price though goes to the brand name and not necessarily the bike though. Some people are into that, and more power to them

[@christianishima7098]

They make wheels now

[@SEproducti0n]

Messy looking bike, strange logo if you over 16yo, geo does not look as good as vigorelli and many odhers. Probably more weight, paint is sh.... what esle? No brake bridge, bye bye ass savers. It looks like santa fixie made "track aero" Better looking frameset than leader or blb la piovra ATK but is it a real achevement ? :DD So here is my question to you. guys - why should you spend that amound of money on somenthing that does not look good and got less functionality?

[@docouchi7929]

Steel bike sucks going uphill, climbing is much tougher

[@lovenottheworld5723]

Shame about the silly forks.

[@heyyykardashian]

lol you are a whole clown zach

[@klarkolofsson]

For a moment I thought you were going into the Korean army. How disappointing.

[@awesomeneiss]

xbox 360

[@chaintedgrind5094]

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[@flushywushy8166]

Firrrrrrsssssttttt

[@MetalPanic]

🧐 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟

[@GoddamnAxl]

Goddamnit I just bought a vigorelli frame

[@ZachGallardo]

Vigorellis are still dope. Enjoy it!

[@juanleezy5748]

A friend who came out of the 18 month korean military service , said that the mando military program isnt even real military program. You wont have to make ur bed, or go through any real physical training let alone weapons training. Like the real soldiers that are there to really become soldiers get all the good stuff a real army has. Ya'll are more kinda like reserves. Try and take some training bc there's some tension with China and N.K. right now.

[@glennchang6195]

3rd comment 🙃🙃

[@juliancorona234]

2nd comment!

[@sadashiva1]

I've ridden bikes before, but this one takes the cake kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA I rode this bike straight back to the 1700s. I didn't know that was even possible. I got the bike out it together and on my first ride the back wheel caught on fire and startled me so much that I fell off the bike and woke up in the middle of a gun fight. I was caught between dudes wearing blue coats and dudes wearing red coats. Giant cannons were blowing trees up and all sorts of chaos was everywhere. I started pedalling as fast as my out of shape legs could go... then boom I run right into a dude with a white wig on a horse. He looked me square in the eyes and said "Son, you look out of place." I said "Yeah bro, something here is off" then he told me to get out quick so I pedaled my little legs back to two days ago, but before that I pedaled to 1968 and invented the internet, and left all the money to myself in the future. Fast forward to two days ago... now the timeline is all messed up. But at least my friend still loves me and that argument about how I'm always blowing money on bike stuff never happened. Instead I wrote this review about a bike that changed my life, but no one will ever know because I changed the timeline.