🔴 DON'T BUY: Jupiter-12 35mm f2.8 lens

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

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[@barthonhoff5547]

I own this lens for more than 40 years, but hardly used it because of the flare. However, being the only wide angle lens for many years, I was happy to own it. And used it mainly in cloudy weather

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Bart, yes on a cloudy day it will give a more standard look for sure.

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

I bought a '51 out of Ukraine from a fellow I got a wonderful '57 J8 from. It has the red lens retaining ring, an indication it is a Zeiss. The good news also is that it is for a Pixii which is in the works. I expect it in a little more than a week. The camera is quite controversial. LUF hates it, RFF is mixed. I do not give a fig what any of them think. I like it. As always you are a good source for knowledgeable information and I appreciate that a lot.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Zoltan and very nice finding a 50s J12! Thanks re red retaining ring. Good info!

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Eh, if I were closer I'd swing by to let you try the Pixii. But it's about 7,000 miles so that won't be happening soon. Mattias Burling has one and has done an initial test. He likes it. The current release seems quite nice. Cheers

[@user-sg6xv2kb8s]

1951 J12 is a nice find, yes Zeiss glass on the earlier ones. As for the Jupiter 8, the very early 50's ones with the little tabs or "ears" sticking out on the aperture ring were also Zeiss glass. 👌

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

@@user-sg6xv2kb8s Those are the J8's I have. Very nice.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@user-sg6xv2kb8s thanks for info!

[@AGL93311]

The Jupiter-12 works flawlessly on a Ricoh GXR with M module. As you show it is fine with a V Series Canon, but I am not sure about VI Series. The large rear element may rub the light baffles. Since I currently have one of each (VI-L, P, VI-T)

[@AGL93311]

Will check and advise.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hey Adam, thanks and good to see you. Are you impressed I finally featured the Canon!

[@davejenx]

I bought this lens for £45 for my M8 but it lives on my GXR really been impressed

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Such a fun and creative lens!

[@mayfell6092]

Also won't work with the M5 and the analogue CL due to the CdS sensor

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah thanks re M5, sorry I forgot to mention film CL. I have it.

[@BearKorn]

I’m surprised the newer version of the Jupiter-12 won’t fit on the SL. Doesn’t the M to L adapter push out the lens giving it more space?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes I thought it would fit but not quite (I have tried!). If use as macro on helicoid it would but no infinity/ might damage camera.

[@LucyS565]

Sage advice. Thank you again Matt for sharing your expertise with us. Two thumbs up!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Lucy!

[@georgemahlum6542]

The J12 works just fine on all eosM...m2...m3...m5...m50...m6 bodies...probably m6II as well. Canon had the forsight to make a deep round opening that just happens to fit.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! I thought the same but someone wrote that it doesn’t fit the M5.

[@p51d10]

My copy is rather unique. It was manufactured in 1951 when there were still Zeiss components in inventory. There are Zeiss serial numbers stamped into some of the brass internal components and the elements are Schott glass (at least that is what the tech who CLAd it for me said). It does say Jupiter-12 on the beauty ring, not ZK. So who knows. The aperture ring fills the entire cavity so there are no threads available to attach a filter or hood.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice Steve, yes early ones contained Zeiss parts, the same as early Kiev RF cameras

[@neilpiper9889]

I used a 30mm 3.5 Lydith on a Praktica back in the 1960s. Loved it. Preset aperture, not automatic stop down, but superb results.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice, 30mm is a nice FL too

[@KNURKonesur]

Goerlitz always made good quality lenses, USSR... not as often :P

[@KratasCRAFT]

It's a good lens on the Contax RF mount, since it costs half as much as the LTM version.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes! Always cheaper so a great buy if have a Kiev 4 or similar. (Most want them to adapt to Leica M mount/ LTM cameras.

[@legionchef]

Just a heads up that it won’t fit the Leica m5 because of the retractable meter arm

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Sam, some say it will, other said it won’t so thanks for confirming.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

How extensively do you want it. Excellent review Matt Beautiful shots too ! Thanks for sharing

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks RS!

[@sonuvasteele2226]

My J12 came with a yellow filter. I haven't developed led the film yet but im hoping for good results.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice! Stopped down it's really sharp too

[@d30gaijin]

Interesting that the Jupiter 12 exhibits more contrast than the Voigtlander 35/2.5 Color Skopar in the images shown in your video. Not sure why but I would have thought it would be the other-way-round. My copy is the black made in 1975. For the price they typically go for it is a rather unique lens to have in one's collection. A note to anyone shopping for a Jupiter 12, make sure the one you buy comes with the rear lens cap. It is specific to the Jupiter 12 and a must to protect that huge rear element when not on the camera. BTW, that Canon range finder camera in this video looks like a mix of a Canon VI-L and VI-T but is missing the self-timer of the VI-L and the trigger winder of the VI-T? Either way it is very interesting and I look forward to finding out just what it is. Don

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Don! Great point on rear cap, I should have covered that in the video. Many thanks. Good spot on the results vs the Skopar too. I’ll do a review on the camera hopefully later this month.

[@AGL93311]

No, it has the two shutterspeed dials like a Barnack Leica, so it is a lever-wound V series Canon. The VI series (P, VI-L, VI-T) has the later single shutterspeed dial. Which V Canon? Matt has mentioned it previously, so I will leave that determination to you…

[@d30gaijin]

@@AGL93311 Adam, thank you for the correction. I went from memory, which is getting a bit foggy these days.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@AGL93311 thanks Adam! Mr Canon :)

[@silvans427]

I'm looking for a 35mm for my Bessa R2C. Someone told me that the Jupiter-12 doesn't mount on the Bessa R2C (though that the Zeiss Biogon will), but I can also find info saying the Zeiss Biogon won't mount a Contax IIa or IIIa. So I'm not sure what's true.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

You need someone that's lived it and bought both (all 3*) trying! :) Yes and no. The pre-war Bigon wont fit, the post-war Biogon WILL fit. (Smaller rear element, more expensive), often called Opton Biogon. That's what I use.

[@silvans427]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom That all makes sense now, thanks. I guess the Jupiter 12 is a no buy for me and the R2C then. The other options for a 35mm on an R2C are out of my price range right now, so I'll think more on it. I had a chance to buy a 35mm SKOPAR for pretty cheap about a year ago, really wish I had gone for it now. Thanks again for the help.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@silvans427 yes I use Biogon, Skopar, Nikkor 35s ..LTM are cheaper if use a second body

[@Skipsul]

The Kiev-mount will NOT fit on a Contax (at least not my IIIA) - that rear element flares too much to clear narrow chamber in front of the shutter. So if you have an actual Contax you may not be able to use the Jupiter.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi James, sorry to hear. Get a cheap Kiev, it will fit. It's the same issue with Pre-War Zeiss Biogon 35mm f2.8. I'll do a video on that lens in the coming months and show the problem.

[@Fintxi]

Hi Matt!! I love your videos!! I have a cuestion (I don't know if someone ask this before in comments). Can I use this lens in a voigtlander bessa r??? Thanks!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks. I just went and tried to be 100% sure. Yes fits no problem!

[@Fintxi]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks Matt!!!

[@andrewcomerford9411]

NB The pre-war Contax/Kiev version won't fit the Post War Contax IIa or IIIa, or the Nikon rangefinders.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Andrew, ah that's the same as the pre/post war 35mm Biogon then. Noted thanks!

[@milesian1]

Just in case anyone is curious about camera compatibility, the Jupiter 12 will not work with the Voigtlander Bessa series of rangefinders. It does however work on the Canon P, VT, and 7 lines, and the Soviet rangefinders like the Feds and Zorkis. I wanted a 35mm lens for my Bessa R, but it won't work. Fortunately, I kept my Canon VT de luxe, so I can use this lens.

[@p51d10]

Just to clarify this comment. The J-12 will fit into and focus on a Bessa rangefinder body. The problem with it is that the rear element extending into the body interferes with the internal light sensor. If you decide to go Sunny 16, or use an external meter, you are good to go.

[@milesian1]

@@p51d10 Thanks for the elaboration. I love my Bessa R for the convenience of the light meter, so to me it is not a match with the J-12.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, I did wonder as I’ve used it on my Bessa R/ L.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for explaining Steve, it shows how much I use light meters, I didn’t even notice :)

[@davidellinsworth22]

Hi Matt, I have a couple of general questions (not directly relating to this video). 1. When metering skin tones in backlighting do you still typically place (Caucasian) skin in zone 6, or do you make it a tad darker (zone 5, for example) to give the perception of shadow (I'll be using Porta 400). 2. For digital, do you ever use a polarizer for outdoor portraits, for example in woodland? I use a polarizer often for landscapes and the anti-glare and colour saturation benefits they bring to the environment are obvious, but I wondered if they may have detrimental effects on skin tones? To be more specific, I'll be doing one or two portrait shoots at my local bluebell woods at the end of April. Sorry my questions are not germaine to the video, but I just wanted to pick your brains

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi, I always meter for the skin regardless as a portrait guy. You could style it darker for a more stylised look. No I don’t use CPL for portraits but you could experiment with it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Feel free to reach me on MrLeica.com/zoom if you ever want help ahead of a shoot.

[@drazenlacmanovic1449]

It works well on my fuji xt4 not touching sensor frame but not on xt1,2,3

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah great thanks for the info. It’s interesting that they changed the internal design of the xt4

[@jimleonardphotography1687]

Nice review on the Jupiter Matt, I have one in mint condition and still in it's bakelite holder, I haven't used it in a few years but i just might take it out for a ramble soon.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Jim! Nice. Definitely worth dusting off I think :)

[@hal4192]

It's my go-to lens on my M2. Compact and great quality. Good review. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Nice and light and good stopped down on film 👍🏻🙂

[@jorgeperellobonus5214]

Muchas gracias. Mi padre tiene zuiko om analógicos y he comprado un adaptador para mi leica cl antes de comprar directamente algún voigtlander. De esta forma práctico con los zuiko y si veo que me gusta ya compraría el adaptador de leica m a l y alguna óptica voigtlander. Tu has probado zuiko om en tu cl?? Gracias

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks. It wont work on analog CL

[@michaelacevedo3787]

Will it fit on my Fuji x mount wjth an adapter!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Michael, I have not Fuji experience but I expect probably not due to the large rear element.

[@dlyon9673]

Thanks for this very interesting video! I'd like to see your Warsaw walk around shots.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and thanks for the interest

[@user-sg6xv2kb8s]

Always loved the Biogon design and these are a sweet little lens as well. Great with portra 400 and a nice sunny day! 🌞

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks L! Yes I love Biogons too.. I need to review the 35/2.8 .. it's amazing (old CRF not M*)

[@cronopiado]

Love the canon L's series!! I have the L2 + J12 and is my fav combo

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes great combo for sure :)

[@andrewweis3028]

Hi Matt, Do you know if this lens will fit on an M5 with the adapter ? Thanks

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Someone else said no. Sorry to mis-inform. I thought all M were the same dimensions inside.

[@izustun9851]

I was using this lens on my M6, it was sor hard to change aperture

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah yes it takes some getting used to! (Some might me stiff from poor lubrication too but mine is OK)

[@mikafoxx2717]

I'm pretty sure that it's specifically a non-retrofocus design, that's why the rear element sticks so far back into the camera. Retrofocus designs were needed for SLR's to bring the lens further away from the film plane. Retrofocus designs are more likely to suffer from softness in the corners, and non-retrofocus suffers from more vignetting.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ah thanks Mika, I thought I’d seen several people call it retrofocus. It does have low vignetting. Thanks for clarification.

[@mikafoxx2717]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Almost every wide angle is retrofocus, so it's usually pretty safe to assume it is. This and some large format lenses are some of the only ones that aren't retrofocus, though. It looks like a good lens, if it were used on film, but the lens flare is surprisingly bad considering the coatings and the built in hood.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@mikafoxx2717 thanks Mika and yes agreed re. Flare

[@sammendolia5868]

Great video on one of my favourite lenses. I have both an older silver 60ish and a newer black 70ish. Both have different quality, go figure. I have used both on my Sony A7R2. the silver lens has more corner issues but great in the middle, the black version, very good all around. May have to check shims on the silver version. I am only able to use the black version on my Canon P, as the rear element does not hit the light baffles. Both lenses work great on my FED and Zorki4 film cameras, as you stated: great on film cameras. I am waiting on a Leica ME typ 240 to arrive, so that I can try these little gems. Thanks again for another great video.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for the info too! Interesting to hear

[@jlwilliams]

Looking forward to that Canon review!… if only so I can find out whether it's an L2 or an L3!

[@almahdipurnama9891]

Let's call it Canon L-IC, before your post the video about it.... (IC : Identity Crisis)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks JL! Yes I need to finish the film in it but coming later this month hopefully!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ok :)

[@realpain84]

Ha! Just bought this one on local ebay, can't wait to try it out ... cheers (using M42- M4/3 converter ring on olympus OMD)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats! Despite the title you can see this lens is a lot of fun!

[@digitalcake]

Great video. Will you cover the M-Rokkor 28 2.8?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I’ve done the 40mm. If I ever get the 28 I will yes.

[@sunny16portraits]

Thanks for saving me ~80 quid Matt. I'm sure I can use it when you recommend something like a nice f/1.0 APO or something :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Thomas haha :) Now we need a £100 APO haha

[@kalenderquantentunnel9411]

And once again a very nice presentation of an interesting lens. I had two copies of the Jupiter 12, one for LTM and one for Contax mount (used on a Kiev 4am) but wasn't overly impressed with either. For me they have little going in favor of them. I generally like lenses with a bit of character but this one left me unimpressed as it is neither very sharp nor very pleasant. My results resembled your's very closely and both samples I had behaved identical (both black ones from the 70s). It works as a lens and can be made to work for many uses but in the end I didn't really miss it because to me there wasn't any real reason to keep it as there are lots of more interesting alternatives. It's price on the market reflects this adequately I think.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you, yes agree fair price for a creative lens.

[@hadleyrosemitchell3574]

Very cool and informative review! Some of the more creative light flare reminds me of when the phoenix sets aflame in Harry Potter 😊 would love to see a walk about video and the film shots with this lens! Thank you for another great video! Just got my hands on a 35 Color-Skopar after watching your video on it; excited to test it out!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hey Hadley, thanks for stopping by! It’s nice to see a female visitor as the channel seems to attract mostly men. Yes I’ll try to start sharing more film and more walkabout vids so stay tuned and enjoy your Skopar :)

[@arisnandya]

totally agree, each copy could varies. i got one with contax rf mount, but use it on nikon s2. it got several focussing issues, turned out after several adjustment, it could somehow work, but not fine, still. however, many people use it on nikon s mount as well could use it normally, and got great results. hope you could test the rf mount version as well, cheers

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks. Both are RF coupled, yes it’s like the Biogons I show. Hard to mount! I use Biogons on a few cameras, not many

[@eek0212]

I used to bought this one but end up return it soon cause focus wasnt working at all with Leica body. if someone thinking about getting this one you better check its modifed for Leica body cause i dont think most of people try this one with zorki only lol

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes there are the chance of issues with old FSU lenses so good to test before accepting.

[@blobbicus]

Thanks for the video, Matt. I have both the Contax and the L39 mount versions. Got some very sharp images on the Kiev using it. Your Canon looks exactly like my L2. I got the J12 specifically for it as it has the 35mm & 50mm rangefinder settings. All the best.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Martin, nice! Yes it’s the perfect LTM body for 35mm I think.

[@flowermaze___]

Which canon is this? I have the canon 7, will the lens fit okay? ✌🏼

[@KNURKonesur]

I don't think I've ever heard a good word about all of those rangefinder ex-soviet lenses. There are some portrait gems like the Helios 44 series, the 40 series, the legendary sharp Jupiter 37A and maybe the Jupiter 50/1.5 if you want funky bokeh, but otherwise almost always it was a no-go for the wide angle lenses.

[@KNURKonesur]

btw. How did you like the capital? :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, I have the 50/1.5 and 44, both fun lenses for sure.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Loved it! I need to go back with more cameras. :)

[@sopranoiua8776]

Is it suitable for Bessa R ? Please somebody help to find info

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I unpacked my Best R and J12 lens for you to check. Yes they fit.

[@sopranoiua8776]

Thanks. So I assume it can be used without any risk to damage shutter or any other parts of my camera? Also why so many info in the internet says they are not suitable?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@sopranoiua8776 I just screwed it in and it fits. If you’re worried use other lenses. Lots of options. See the LLL 35/2 I reviewed

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@sopranoiua8776 can’t hit shutter, yes it doesn’t fit all cameras, correct, does hit the inside of some cameras as the back is big.

[@sopranoiua8776]

I think the price is too crazy for a Chinese lens. In this case I would prefer skopar 35 but it's hard to find a sample without haze/fog or fungus@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom

[@CAMSMORE]

Hi Matt!! So instructive video, as always, thanks a lot!! 🙏

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! No problem

[@DavidHosten]

Thanks for another great review. I bought 2 of these lenses, one to use on my LTM Tower 45 (Nicca 5L) and one for my Nikon S2 (Contax RF mount). I had researched them for some time and feel that would be a good option for me for a walk around lens.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Congrats David! It might take a few attempts to get good copies of the lens but fingers crossed you got nice ones.

[@murraykriner9425]

Would well imagine that the Ziess and Voightlander lenses would be much preferred to a 50 year old Soviet knock off that wouldn't cost anything near what the aforementioned two go for. The Jupiter was conceived without any foreknowledge of most of the camera's you've made mention of, and really couldn't expect anything nearing compatibility for one of your Leica Digitals. Hope you had a grand time in Poland.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Murray! Ha yes sometimes I have a soft spot for the older Soviet gear. I love my Kiev 4a cameras... though usually with Zeiss glass!

[@murraykriner9425]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom just found a 4A Kiev, purchased from a small dealer in the city of it's namesake. Probably still opt for a Jupiter, and try never to shoot it wide open to sharpen the image. The originality means something to me. Take care.

[@andreitelenkov5775]

Fun lens no doubt :) I had something similar with highly praised Fuji 16mm f/1.4. Dumped it in the end, replacing with Voigtlander 21mm f/1.8 beauty. As I said, always go by the name :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Andrei! :)

[@AndrisLelisTravelChanel]

for video this lens gona be good

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes a lot of fun for sure with the flare!

[@zoltankaparthy9095]

Great review

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Zoltan!

[@almahdipurnama9891]

6:13 Canon L2???

[@mvonwalter6927]

Looks like an L3!

[@jlwilliams]

Okay, it's time to play Name That Canon! Speeds to 1/500 rules out the L1. L2 would have bulb sync only and L3 no sync at all, but I can't see the end of the camera where the sync outlet would be, so I'm stumped!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Good guess.. video coming soon :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

There is a Canon RF wiz that follows me, he’ll chip in soon I’m sure but I’m impressed with all your observations!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Coming soon! :)

[@frankzappa3834]

Nice V-L!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Frank, I think it’s a different model to what you think. Video to follow

[@karoln3342]

WOW Poland

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Warsaw is lovely!

[@Seapatico]

Wait, more importantly, TK Maxx!? 8:47

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha yes!

[@artobell]

Interesting.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks

[@danMdan]

Please stop using ads that don't allow turn off in 4 secs. Front ads that can't be turned of quickly make me never stay to watch the video. KZbin is INFESTED with some awful drivel.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, all ads are set to auto. When I watch videos of others it’s normal to not be able to skip the first few, then after 3 seconds I think.

[@carlosmcse]

Nobody can accuse you of not being honest 😀

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

It’s good to be honest :)

[@MB-or8js]

Horrible lens copy which I got a couple years ago. It was never getting sharp corners even when stopped down to f/11. Used it on film where it was mediocre at best, not usable on digital at all regarding quality. Severe color vignetting and color cast. It was my shortest lived lens in my ownership, sold it quickly again. I cannot recommend this lens at all even it is possible I had a bad decentered copy.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks MB, I guess my video title holds true then. Some people great great results but then others say similar to you.

[@MB-or8js]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom My impression is that there are a lot of lemon lens copies out there from this lens. Especially since prices for rangefinder 35 mm lenses got so high, some resellers seem to reassemble this lens from different broken copies and sell it as new. If glass elements are not well aligned, the optical quality suffers.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@MB-or8js yes good point, I got mine a few years ago

[@juddeeut]

Make up your mind!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha it can be fun but isn’t for serious photos on digital*

[@adamkorsak8231]

Not true. You better go and learn make photos.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Adam! Hopefully you watched enough of the video to see that I love the lens. Great arty lens for fun photos (especially the flare/ colours).

[@invisibility1987]

the canon L series cameras are tanks !!!!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes I’ve been impressed so far!

[@woodypigeon]

Leica posing skeeve with terrible vocal fry

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, great lens regardless

[@woodypigeon]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComI like mine. I wonder if the fat pixels on the A7s would help mitigate the edge issues on digital sensors?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@woodypigeon hmm I’ve not tried Sonys so I’m not sure sorry

[@GeorgeStar]

Strangely the M39 mount is 3X the cost of the Kiev/Contax.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi George, yes Contax mount is always much cheaper as it's less easy to adapt. Everyone want the LTM for Leica M mount etc.