Don't Buy the GL4 PRO IRH

[@mrblack5145]

Me, who will never own night vision or have any use for associated danglies on my rifle: "hmm, interesting. I'll keep this in mind."

[@novagroup2]

I gotchu

[@bewarethegreyghost]

Same

[@FlowBaka]

Hey, when I saved up to buy an Aimpoint h1 10 years ago, I thought I never would. And now, after a new job and family, I was able to get a pvs14 a few years ago. So you never know!

[@mrblack5145]

@@FlowBaka I've seen enough of their content to know that 'buy once, cry once' is the best adage when dealing with low-light visibility, but it's so low on my list of priorities currently that I've not even bothered checking on cost. I'm glad you made it there eventually tho!

[@cjslick487]

Same fam. Same.

[@Hoplopfheil]

If people actually wanted the performance of a TLR VIR II they would already have a TLR VIR II.

[@novagroup2]

but the VIR 2 doesn't look cool

[@Fadaar]

VIR II good for a sub gun like an MPX? would love something that isn't overly heavy or expensive for mine

[@Irradiated316]

The worst part of the TLR VIR II is that it sounds like you're trying to recite the lords prayer in old Romanian Cyrillic

[@KidCorporate]

The GL4 smokes the VIR II IMHO, I have multiple copies of both.

[@beserkerpatroit1337]

i was torn between the non IRH version of this and a TLR VIR II(have one a pistol and love it) with the new VWS Diffuser for an Extar EP9 and took the gamble on the Defense Distributors edition, i suppose i got lucky because front most portion of the rail on my EP9 fit it perfectly, and i mean perfectly, it's very snug and only took just the right feeling amount of pressure to lock it on, no wobble whatsoever, others might not be as lucky however and they DEFINITELY NEED to ditch the QD, i honestly think this would be a far better choice than the VIR II if they would ditch the QD

[@danielmattera4298]

*Centers for those with OCD... Immediately moves it and berates me.* Thank you sir, here's my like.

[@novagroup2]

just for you.

[@shooteveryday1841]

1:08 who wants to gamble with $400? “I would!” My harbor freight Dremel is telling me. “I’ll dust off a cam and save you $700 off the price of an XVL2-IRC”

[@zachscott4867]

I just bought one of the IR only ones and did hear the faint whrrrr of a stainless bit going to work. Maybe not? We will see😆

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

All they have to do is ditch the QD crap and use a regular clamp with a bolt and they solve 80% of their problems.

[@andreivaldez2929]

Yeah. I almost feel bad for recommending these as a cheap IR device now lol. I've 2 that I haven't had this issue with but seeing someone else get 2 bad ones in a row just sucks, especially since I assume anyone new to guns that buys these won't realize what the problem is.

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

Bluejean Operator said the instructions are to hammer it into place lol. Upside is it will never lose 0 as it is wedged into the rail very tightly. The other option is some careful filing.

[@Irradiated316]

BREAKING NEWS: Civilian IR products are still mid at best.

[@frankholub4673]

Weather at 8

[@printingwithpeek4897]

They have a full power version of this that's better than an XVL2-IRC and it's VCSEL.

[@jeromydehaan4991]

Just bought a cold harbor supply unit. Mounted fine on my flux. Zeroed to my red dot. Will report my findings

[@Hawkeye0918]

Have you conducted all necessary tests, combed through your findings, and come to a valid conclusion?

[@thereddaikon]

I wonder if it will fit on Focus Tripps out of spec Jakl? Two wrongs make a right?

[@FocusTripp]

The jakl is oversized, so if it's too tight on regular rails...

[@epicfortnitekid8536]

Just use tape dude

[@nickspence8897]

​@FocusTripp they were made out of spec... for eachother

[@Horseysauce]

I feel like the biggest problem with most of the direct from china lams is that they didn't understand the assignment because they'll get gulaged for having guns. "we got rid of the white light just like you asked, what's the problem?" Laserspeed seems to be getting their head wrapped around things now but they've still got a full catalog of mall ninja shit with ridiculous features and form factors available for sale

[@tfwwhennofitlitgf3300]

Same for weapon lights. Weltool is the leader in LEP technology, but their LEP heads are unusable compared to Z-Bolt.

[@TheMsdos25]

Laserspeed only got their act together with the M6TR thanks to heavy input from an American NV enthusiast throughout the design process.

[@andreivaldez2929]

I actually prefer that they got rid of the white light since it sucked on the GL4. I wish they had further improved the IR illuminator but, considering they actually listened about the QD lever issues and demand for an IR only version, I think they'll eventually get there.

[@andreivaldez2929]

Successfully bullied them into improving lol.

[@WatcherCobalt]

“You get what you pay for” is immortal

[@mgpBLARG]

Got a $10k+ dirt bike with 190 miles for $4k. Hasn't gone wrong since I bought it in 2016🤷‍♂️

[@goosecouple]

It is fair.

[@zachscott4867]

Update on my GL 4IRH that just showed up, it fits several different rails in my collection and I took it out tonight by itself for a range check and was totally happy for $350. Switch could use some improvements but overall 👍🏼

[@jzatt-gp7cb]

Interested to see what your thougts are of the SMSlaser HFXC if you guys are planning to check that one out.

[@conrad792]

I have 2, neither have issues with clamping. It's chinesium, but mine are working good so far.

[@Jasonz1919]

Try the cold harbor supply lens for the gl4 pro. Its an amazing 3d printed wonder

[@novagroup2]

im not convinced it is.

[@DPolk98]

having to buy a 'wonder product' to fix a shitty one just leaves you with a mediocre product that costs more than it should have

[@Minuteman_Medic]

I still think the LS321 is the budget king. It's a bit more expensive but compared to the GL4 it's got an illuminator that's at least worth a damn more or less

[@W9ZKHamRadio]

Eh, I switched from the LS321 to the GL4 Pro. Effective range is still just 100 yards, Holosun because of the underpowered emitter, and RovyVon because it autogates my tube. For 1/3 the price, I'm upset I didn't get the GL4 first. I'll be throwing a VWS focus ring on it soon and calling it a win at under half the price of the LS321

[@neato2765]

God bless you for testing these things for us ❤

[@AK47Uprising]

Been waiting for a video on this from someone. Disappointing but not unexpected. Thanks.

[@AirborneHelly]

I got a gl4 pro irh about 2 weeks ago, fits all four different rifle pic rails I have as well as a couple glocks perfectly. Maybe they updated the updated clamping mechanism? Mine is a Defense distributors model though too so that may make a difference.

[@novagroup2]

it's just luck

[@KidCorporate]

A VCSEL head in place of the IR LED would absolutely slap. I really like my GL4 Pro on my 5" PCC.

[@dijax7863]

I own this the GL4 Pro and a VIR2 plus other more expensive and less expensive IR lasers, Illumination devices. I also have Villian intensifiers on both VIR2 and the GL4 Pro. I disagree with point # 1. It locks up to both of my P320s, Both my PDP and PDP pro, both my Magpul rail on my 16" and my BCM 10.5" AR and my AKs Rail. I have heard people say it was loose on their stuff, which does show there is gear out there out of spec.. which can be solved with freaking tape to shim the space needed so the clamp is tight.. we did it in the military all the freaking time. There is no such thing as too tight with this style clamp system. I disagree and agree with #2 its for a freaking pistol...PISTOL...PPPISSSTOOOL, Not Rifle, Not Carbine, Maybe PCC or CQB Shotgun and diffidently sidearm Pistol. That being said, I got the intensifier on so it doesnt autogate my NODS when I just want a threat lit up 40 yards and under. If you need more IR illumination then what this is putting out, you need to stop buying that NNVT cheap Chicom tubes and invest in some L3 or Elbit... IDK... maybe upgrade to omni 4 - Omni 7 at least... LOL Give me a break.

[@wadenixon9455]

My GL4 pro XL works perfectly, I highly recommend it.

[@highdesertdrew1844]

The whole inability to work with pic rails is kinda the real deal killer.

[@andreivaldez2929]

I've 2 and haven't had issues mounting to rails but I'm not gonna pretend that it's not an issue. They at least acknowledged it and made improvements but it still sucks seeing that it still isn't 100% mounting with no issues for everyone.

[@AndyCigars]

I am not into night vision…yet. Just here for the tisms, and Sockos and Novas. 😺🐶

[@Senator-Wary]

Just make it a normal ass screw

[@andreivaldez2929]

You can't convince the QD gang.

[@kineticconceptstactical]

Ass screw?

[@zachscott4867]

I just rolled the dice and bought the IR only version so wish me luck. Holosun was close but wanted something I could grab immediately.

[@thomaseric8662]

The algorithm requires engagement

[@conrad792]

I need a diffuser cap for my laserspeed m6tr. Any suggestions?

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen6680]

Tbh my budget setup is a steiner tor ir + inforce wmlx. Probably the same performace as this for like 200 bucks less. Great on my 22 lr setup

[@JRassi_Militaria]

I have a VIR-2 already, but i need more laser units. Should i buy a RovyVon product, or just more streamlights?

[@jaydenbrown2852]

Need more civi laser boxes, pls NV industry, just one option that isn’t shit and priced like a ls321r

[@Tiger24kicks]

Is it ok to use this on a rifle

[@Saboteur_91]

Guess it’s another pass. On to the next chinesium lam. Maybe a spec precision mawl clone next?

[@TheMsdos25]

Check out the Laserspeed M6TR, it fixes the biggest complaints Brass Facts had with his m3. I'd go for the 'eye safe' CHS exclusive model.

[@awesomeopossum4632]

I can attest, my gl4 pro will not mount on the lobos industries rail on my mk23 without actually forcing the lever down, and even then it wouldn’t hold zero when running 45 super

[@novagroup2]

damn :(

[@awesomeopossum4632]

@@novagroup2 it gets worse with this one single tidbit, it was a “defense distributed” edition

[@jonathandebona8934]

My first one showed up with a crooked mount and when I attempted to zero it the elevation turret broke when it bottomed out. I emailed the company and they sent me a new one free without even asking for the old one back. Its pretty janky and Id never trust it.

[@seejayshoots]

I think what will fix this is the new tlr1 hlx in a vir model let’s hope stream light makes it happen

[@trevor894]

If they want to buikt it cheap just use a cross bolt instead of a lever i prefer my laser to have one anyway

[@Peltast]

NV noob (and poor) here. LE321 or potted Somogear NGAL?

[@SpecOpsGear]

The worst thing about the vir2 is the garbage turrets.

[@PavewayJDAM]

Imperial inch units get them every time.

[@AutumnEight17]

I know this isnt related, but this question has been bugging me for a while. In a major crisis, in which the united states government bo longer functions, what are the other countries doing? What would stop a country from just walking right in and taking over? It wouldnt be difficult to convince the locals, if they have been without power/water the country could easily provide such. Im not totally sure how to type out my thoughts on this, but its something along those lines.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

There's no big switch they flip in Washington DC and the entire country shuts down. There would be contingency plans at several levels of goverment, from the state to municipal. Obviously the whole situation would suck but there would still be police, national guard, and people who know how to restore the water service. An American would have a head start on seizing power over a foreign state, and even without re-supply the standing forces would still have enough firepower to cripple an invading army therefore jeopardizing the invader's own sovereignty.

[@Enjoyer.762]

That is a far-fetched scenario. The real situation that is occurring is a slow slide into Kakistocracy due to our "woke" liberal government and their religious-like quest for hyper-egalitarianism and propping up certain foreign interests at the expense of Americans and meritocracy. That and the government continuing to crackdown against constitutional rights.

[@andreivaldez2929]

"There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass"? 🤔

[@triviszla1536]

Okay boss!

[@shadowforcepb]

I thought I was having deja vu

[@SMACK1978]

Where iris is?!? 🤷🏽

[@tfwwhennofitlitgf3300]

I don't think they've even figured out what type of battery to use yet.

[@EradicationHDYT]

They came out with a Full power gl4 pro for 800$ :/

[@novagroup2]

its really only a FP laser, which isn't what is needed

[@ameliabeaver9407]

Holosun stays winning! 💪🇨🇳

[@L8T4AD8MAN]

1:12 🤣🤣🤣

[@markrobison2549]

Fit on my B&T MP5 rail no problem. The unit does seem cheapish but it’s worked for my uses. Again you get what you pay for, if you want the best Buy an NGAL.

[@novagroup2]

who can actually buy a NGAL tho

[@Saboteur_91]

@@novagroup2 guntubers who sell their soul and shill like it’s going out of style

[@nickspence8897]

Please no more qd goddammit

[@suntzu5562]

Get an m6tr instead

[@novagroup2]

I have actually

[@_vanquishings]

ass facts really just thinks he can casually drop a "; similarly, " mid sentence at me?!

[@MAACotton]

Team Thumbscrew

[@mgpBLARG]

What is stopping manufacturers from making high output IR led lights? I know the FDA has their dirty hands on full power IR laser powered lights, but why do IR leds suck so much?

[@novagroup2]

they do make them, the LED D2 is one

[@mgpBLARG]

@@novagroup2 is there a reason only one make has a good IR output? Are they preticularly hard to make? I know nothing about this and I'm curious as to why I can barely see the illuminators lighting up the scene on this video.

[@BlackDogOriginal]

1.25x speed helps.

[@Peppicoooo]

If you can afford $400 today; you can afford $4000 in 10 months.