Don't Follow This Stoic Example (For Once)

[@johnmanapol9734]

"The Greatest Act of Vengeance is not to be like those who have wronged you"-Marcus Aurelius

[@PaperbackJourneys]

This video is probably going to make people uncomfortable. You can already see some emotion in the comments section. We all know that many who follow "Stoicism" may not fully understand its true essence , and instead think it's all about being a stone cold tough guy. As a result, seeing someone they admire being criticized may trigger an emotional response. This is why it’s especially important for a prominent voice in today’s Stoic discourse to address this topic. Also, even if you disagree, I think you should at least recognise the merit in this guy having strength in his convictions enough that he's willing to publicly criticise a leader that just won a popular vote for president. This is the opposite of being a poser. Ryan actually believes this stuff.

[@bobbyraylovessuccess9170]

This is the comment. This is the take. 👍

[@DirectRealism]

@@PaperbackJourneys i think you have put your case well. though I think Ryan has a classic case of TDS

[@PaperbackJourneys]

@@DirectRealism TDS isn't real. It's one of these clever internet terms that reduce people's sincere beliefs to a meme. In some people's mind anyone who has virtue is "Virtue signalling" anyone who defends a woman is a "white knight" anyone who thinks we should be polite is "politically correct" anyone who thinks we should include others is "woke." Anyone is respects his wife is "cucked." Anyone who has concerns about Trump has "TDS" These are all terms cleverly devised to diminish any argument others might not want to hear. Then they can ignore them and feel comfortable again and not have to think of the logic of an argument.

[@wondays654]

No, if he believed what he preached, he would realize that an election that is decided by over 100 million people is beyond his control and move on, instead he has made 3 KZbin videos about it. That's the definition of being emotional, he never had any control over the situation to start with, so why is he so invested, which is contrary to the message he portrays.

[@PaperbackJourneys]

@@wondays654 You're confusing making videos about something and talking about it, with being emotional about it. For example, if someone doesn't like socialism and make a video about why it doesn't work... I don't comment "shut up! Don't make this video. You're emotional! don't talk about it. You've got socialist derangement syndrome! You can't control if a country is socialist or not!" That would be a silly thing to request. Talking about things doesn't equal being emotional about them. Demanding that people don't talk about certain subjects is emotional.

[@cliffdavis1344]

Thank you for sharing with us Ryan. We need these perspectives and reminders. Stay in it. Stay strong.

[@yoanageorgieva3068]

I commend you for taking a stand courageously.

[@Andrew-dg7qm]

What’s courageous about not supporting a felon?

[@yoanageorgieva3068]

@@Andrew-dg7qm He's openly sharing his opinion which is in opposition to the majority of his country, without worrying about losing subs or money, etc.

[@greg275]

"In defeat: defiance" - Churchill

[@dobycorder3206]

Stay in the fight, keep up ones own moral character, .... words to live by. Thank you.

[@slsilver481]

Many of us need this right now, so thank you Ryan and DS staff. While it's true that some things are outside of one's control, there are still many things that can be done. Fight misinformation spread against vulnerable groups. Watch. Record. Document. We are entering a dark time in history. Virtue isn't just an abstract concept and there are usually things most people can do to fight tyranny. Think of those kids who got bullied in school after the lies that their parents were eating pets. We must educate our kids and neighbors when this kind of hateful lie surfaces.

[@wyleehokie]

Hmmmmmm....... then, by your logic, those other 4 years should have been a "dark time". Yet .... they weren't Reporters weren't prosecuted - that happened under Obama Federal Govt agencies didn't lie and conspire w/ media orgs to censor news and the truth - that happened under Biden All documented Yet, the media narrative of someone being a "Hitler" when they did NOT act like a "Hitler" is believed Why?

[@doreenarcher8543]

To be honest with you yesterday I woke up and I said I want to die. I felt so overwhelmed by evil influence . But then I did go back to history and thought about the Revolutionary War. Even Benjamin Franklin’s own son tried to undermine the independence of this country. If I remove me then I remove whatever tiny bit of anything I can do to make things better. Truth be told though I’m quite a tough cookie. I was just feeling overwhelmed by shock and despair. Moving forward this channel will become essential to my peace of mind. Thank you Ryan.🌻

[@charleshills3602]

Donald Trump stands as a prominent leader for those who seek freedom and justice. With resilience and conviction, he strives to protect us from forces that threaten our way of life, and many believe he has a unique purpose in defending the values we hold dear.

[@The.Akademic]

You’re not alone 🫡

[@The.Akademic]

@@charleshills3602yeah bud this is not what you say to someone who said they were thinking of taking themselves out

[@ledzep244]

​@@tree-d1e Women have died because of Bidens open borders

[@howardwylie1620]

We must stand by our beliefs, our interpretations of the world around us, our objective observations of the experiences of our lives. No single event or election can, in and of it's self, change the way we view, interact, or express our thoughts. Nor should it. Fantastic content as always. Thank you Ryan.

[@jbro4779]

Excellent! No matter how bad things get the world needs good people. Never give up.

[@Andrew-dg7qm]

The world is full of good people. And unfortunately many of them are confused. Look what happened. The good who are awake need to make noise. Too many people sleeping or keeping their mouths shut

[@JustShootYourBow]

Thank you for talking about contemporary issues.

[@melissawatt9095]

Ryan, your words give me immense hope. Thank you.

[@willemrick8330]

Now more than ever, we look to people like you Ryan.

[@akuseru85]

Yes, we look to them, and realize what pathetic losers they are.

[@keloreilly7017]

Thanks, Ryan, for your words of encouragement. It matters.

[@tenkarabadger5244]

Thank you, Ryan.

[@THFrenchteacher]

If 5 people hear this video, you will have 5 different views of what they heard. Ryan is using historical stories that mimic contemporary situations to show us that there is nothing new here. Yet people accuse him of being political? If you have followed this channel at all, most of it has been about historical people in political situations. He is reporting history. Yet people want to see something else. The human mind is really interesting. Thank you Ryan for sharing the past so that we can have a better future.

[@cuban252]

Well said! I couldn’t agree more.

[@stevenrance5320]

Agreed, if you just heard it. Add the images and the political bias is not in any doubt

[@GEN-X_POV]

HE made it political by adding the video clips of the election.

[@DoloresLehmann]

I'm so glad I found your channel. Whenever I want to give in to despair and get myself swept away by the counter-hate, I watch one of your videos and gain hope. Or I start crying, and then I feel better again. Whatever keeps you going, right?

[@JaneNewAuthor]

Thanks for this, I needed it. ❤

[@briore3856]

I appreciate this gut check, and I like to think Edith Eger is proud of you, too. Courage, justice, temperance, wisdom.

[@supersupersomething]

Amen brother.

[@shanagirl33]

Thank you Ryan!

[@jasonblig4631]

Lol to use the story Nero as an example to parallel recent events is wild. Very stoic way to present an emotional reaction. Good luck bud!

[@ManuelPerez-tk2sw]

I need this channel, especially after Tuesday....this defeat has been a tough one. I'm so grateful to be part of this loss with these Americans who truly wanted a righteous change for this country. The words on this channel to persevere are greatly needed.

[@herzglass]

I can’t understand how anyone who admires Marcus Aurelius - a leader who valued humility, integrity, and service to the greater good - could support someone like Trump, who embodies qualities so opposed to those virtues. But regardless of who you voted for, let’s all strive to uphold these Stoic ideals. Lead by example, think of those who come after us, and let’s work together to make this world a better place for everyone.

[@invidatauro8922]

I will give you credit in that you hold to your ideals even when they are tested, much respect. Even if I don't share your political ideals.

[@charlesmaunder]

Thanks

[@Chase_baker_1996]

Thank you

[@vanobe5853]

Needed to hear this.

[@jrf185]

Glad you're posting what you believe Ryan. You have control of that and as you have said, we should be engaged in civic life. If anything, this election has made me more energized to engage in that part of life. Thanks for the daily reminders.

[@HeartDrivenTarot]

Thank you, Ryan, for sharing this.

[@HLNA14]

Thank you for your continued works of service. 🕊️

[@MrPrimoPR]

No shit! Life is not about imagination, it’s about facing reality standing up to whatever is thrown at us. People who put all their eggs into one basket are plain stupid, you always have to have many other options. Opinions kill our happiness. Thank you Ryan.

[@stj53]

Beautifully said....

[@avx4281]

Well said.

[@krismadaus4305]

YES. I felt so hopeless yesterday. I wanted to give up. What's the point now? But giving up is the act of a coward. Focus on the process, not the outcome. Keep doing. your job, so when you do die, you will know you did all you could. Don't take the cowards way out. If you feel you can't do that right now, that's understandable. Take a breather. Reassess tomorrow or next week, but do not give up. Do not give in to complacency. Because that's what they want you to do. Don't give them the satisfaction. Now is the time to exercise your resolve.

[@beaconoflight4u]

Thank you for sharing this message! 💗

[@charliedurie3013]

Thank you!! I needed this! This Obstacle is an opportunity to re-dedicate myself to Stoicism

[@AlphaWolfLegacy]

This video got me thinking... Maybe giving up is the easy way out, but sticking around is the real challenge. What do you all think? Is resilience the ultimate Stoic virtue?

[@menteyvidalibre]

The world may end, but I don't end with the world.

[@kimwoodhouse7891]

Thank you, Ryan. Your work is so important. 💕

[@Andrew-dg7qm]

Yes, we need you more than ever. Remember your values and stick to your principles I see lots of positive and hope republicans painting themselves a picture of what they think the future will look like. But I don’t see that future because there’s no foundation for it When there is no stability because the bottom has fallen out, we need to stabilize ourselves so we can continue the discourse with our friends and family and community so they can once again open their eyes Socrates was right, democracy’s weakness is that voters need to be educated and that clearly didn’t happen in this election. People have been fooled and we need to wake them up It’s time to study fascism and show people what’s been going on for years. I don’t want a Nero or a Caesar. We can see what’s going on so let’s show the others - fascism divides people and we have to overcome that divide to educate those who are asleep

[@dobycorder3206]

Education, yes. But also, it is amazing to realize some folks want to burn the current system that they believe is not working. Those people who just want to have a life without worrying or thinking about how to run a large country with so many running parts, just want someone to do that who aligns with their view of life, just want to get more, not realizing the cost of relying on promises that are based on putting others down. Justice, do the right thing, for the dignity of all people.

[@Andrew-dg7qm]

@ right. I can understand their reason for wanting that. It’s lazy thinking. As you say, it’s a big country, it’s not easy to make it right. And it’ll never be perfect. Again, lazy thinking. People want to have it handed to them. That’s how demagogues get into power. Because people give away their own

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

Great meditation to start the day=]

[@m.malina6797]

This might be one of your best posts, Ryan. Thank you very much.

Ryan, you're great for speaking on Stoicism, but you are out of your element on anything politically. A True Stoic doesn't comment on the lack of Stoic value in others, especially if it very clearly fits their personal bias.

[@matthewcampbell9956]

100%

@@EyeLean5280 I absolutely would. Are you really so polarized in your echo chamber to assume that, if I critique Ryan's logical position, I'm automatically a MAGA supporter? You only reveal the fundamental problem of a lack of reason and virtue present among all people these days, regardless of political affiliation.

[@EyeLean5280]

My mistake.

[@augustus4832]

It really says something about the state of American politics that people feel the need to make anti-suicide videos because one side didn't kept power.

[@stevenrance5320]

Apparently you can only be Stoic if you are a democrat

[@Whybeajackass]

This isn’t about politics. It’s about a morally bankrupt society on its way to ruin.

[@LockeDemosthenes1]

It's more the dread of watching our beloved country burn itself to the ground under the rule of evil stupid men

[@thejanssen6030]

It says far less than multiple assassination attempts, but we don't want to talk about those

[@LockeDemosthenes1]

@@thejanssen6030 you mean the one attempt and the attempted attempt, be more dramatic. not like the guy hasn't been inciting his followers for years

[@josephcallahan4444]

Just a thought, if this truly bothers you that Ryan chooses to use his platform for the things he wants, you can simply go another way. Freedom of choice, doesn’t dismiss consequences. Do you Ryan, and keep Doing the Right Thing Now!

[@cuban252]

Yes!! Well put!

[@howardwylie1620]

I don't believe any one who holds true stoic values could vote for a monster. I don't believe any thinking person could be deceived by a third rate conman. I thought America was better than this. But we live and we learn. Congrats to those who think they won.

[@horacioduarte5522]

Just talk about stoicism and you'll be fine. The US was adrift, as was Brazil. Criticize when something bad is done. Suffering for something you don't control and in anticipation is not stoic. Or is Trump's mere existence unmasking that stoicism is not your philosophy, but a way you found to make a lot of money? Defend the values of your country and your people!

[@TheKing527]

Guy is a marketer first-and-foremost. Worked for American Apparel (a sweatshop that used borderline slave labor) under Dov Charney, a man of incredibly low moral character.

[@wilsonvieiradasilva6933]

Exato ,não sofra por algo que está fora do seu controle .

[@thomasgiffin9398]

“you can take the dog out of the fight, can’t take the fight out of the dog.” Trick is deciding what to fight for.

[@miketothe2ndpwr]

The purpose of Cato ending his life was to not be used as a pawn in ceasars dictatorship. Cawsar woshed to give him clemency and display how just and benevolent he was to both the people and the senate. Cato's last act of defiance very likely lut the path to caesars downfall. Many modern historians and seneca himself speak to this at great length and I suspect you know that

[@GreatQuotes-n1g]

This video inspires us not to give up when things don’t go our way but to keep striving for the common good and virtue This video might make some people uncomfortable, and the emotional reactions in the comments are telling. Many followers of Stoicism misunderstand it as simply being stoic and unfeeling, so seeing someone they admire criticized can trigger strong emotions. That’s why it’s essential for a key voice in Stoic philosophy to address this topic. Even if you disagree, you have to respect the courage it takes to stand by one’s convictions and publicly criticize a newly elected president. Ryan isn’t pretending-he truly believes in what he’s saying.

[@shelleycharlesworth5177]

Yes but I am just exhausted by 9 years of trump always dominating the media and our never ending election cycles. I just want peace.

[@baronghede2365]

I'll follow Stoicism and Bushido.

[@Andocoify]

What is that source of the Napoleon quote on Cato, I can't seem to find it?

[@Yette]

Virtue, a trait best enjoyed by the living

[@akuseru85]

Ryan has no virtue though. This election proved that.

[@paulsciria8921]

Historically I have long thought this about Cato the Younger. I think he was living in his father’s shadow or is often described as too righteous etc.

[@spacetoast2491]

Why is it, the more I learn about ancient Roman history the more terrified I get? F*CK!!!

[@Motoseaner]

I'm glad you are making these videos we the people need them.

[@MarquitaHerald]

Thank you. An important message I'm bookmarking it for the days ahead.

[@ceeemm1901]

Yeah, good tip Ryan. Cheers. BTW, The Cato Institute is flawed too....

[@ironxy]

Apply the same metric to Seneca’s death. How is it different?

[@JK-px2im]

I have felt so hopeless the last four years. I needed this. Finally there's hope again.

[@ultra3331]

"Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one, and they all stink." - Meditations

[@Blazerelf]

Keep it up, if you lose some subscribers from people offended about who or what you believe, good atleast the right people will remain around. BTW With right people I don´t mean democrats or some political team, but people who can tolerate different opinions without lashing.

[@howardwylie1620]

Good post. Well said.

[@SteveSUX2BU]

Thankfully the person I find morally reprehensible is not in charge. Bullet dodged.

[@jincs151]

I am surprised that a lot of people in the comment section are not able to see past his example of a current dilemma and see the message for what it's worth. Seems like you might need some self reflection.

[@a.w5407]

Morally reprehensible? Yes, he is not a saint. He has done things in his personal life that are reprehensible. But at the same time, he was a good president. For example, during his 4 years he worked on signing the Abraham accords : “are bilateral agreements on Arab-Israeli normalization signed between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and between Israel and Bahrain on September 15, 2020”. He also “President Donald Trump on Thursday signed a bipartisan bill that will permanently provide more than $250 million a year to the nation’s historically black colleges and universities, along with dozens of other institutions that serve large shares of minority students.” Also, “Launched the Women’s Global Development and Prosperity (W-GDP) Initiative - the first-ever whole-of-government approach to women’s economic empowerment that has reached 24 million women worldwide.” And much more. So yeah, he has not been a saint, but as President he fought to better the lives of all Americans. Oh, btw, Jesus did say, who ever has not committed any sin, may throw the first stone...

[@Lorenzo-19767]

I’m looking forward to the next 4 years. 😎🤙 And why don’t we just stick to stoicism? If I wanted politics I’d go somewhere else…

[@matthewcampbell9956]

This video is not what a stoic would do.

[@carlsny1023]

exactly 😂

[@Jake2guitar]

I’m leaving, you can’t just make neutral content. I’m not interested in your personal opinion.

[@carlsny1023]

same. it was one of the things i admired about ryan even tho i was fairly certain he was a lib. his books are great but his political opinions are unnecessary

[@Jake2guitar]

@ it’s a bummer I like learning about stoic stuff. If I had a following like he does I’d never dishonor my subscribers by weaving my personal beliefs into content pushing them to have my opinion. Everyone has their own opinions especially regarding what’s happening now, that should be respected for better or worse.

[@Jake2guitar]

@ on the other hand it is his channel 👋

[@14ssc14]

How about making a new Seneca video on “we suffer more in imagination than in reality” for everyone that feels they’ve had their entire existence and hopes upended since Tuesday? Seems most appropriate at this time.

[@TullyMars-d3m]

❤

[@wanderingsoulenterprises5564]

🙏🏻

[@gabrieljordan8015]

I dont vote because I dont care who the president is. No one should sir around and think their entire existence revolves around one person who sits in the White House. I just keep grinding everyday no matter what.

[@sharona-k4r]

For all of you saying he’d better stop expressing his opinions or he’ll lose his subscribers and his revenue stream, I wonder if you’ve studied stoicism

[@joshsetzer8786]

@@sharona-k4r Remember what happened to Bud Light and Target? Same thing. And the truth is, if he came out supporting President Trump, you and your friends would be calling for him to be canceled and have him shut down. Case Closed!

[@sharona-k4r]

Wrong assumption. Not a dem. Point-this is HIS principle and he’s going to live and work accordingly

[@joshsetzer8786]

@sharonpatry5401 And yet you are the one complaining about Conservatives and Christians unsubscribing because of his one-sided political views. So, who is really practicing Stoicism? 🤔

[@sharona-k4r]

Living a life according to your principles is Stoicism. That’s what he’s doing. He’s obviously willing to lose subscribers over it. The end

[@joshsetzer8786]

@sharonpatry5401 And people have every right to point out the flaws in his principles and unsubscribe. So why complain about? Case Closed !

[@michaelshelton5488]

More stoicism and less TDS please. 🙄

[@josephyoung_]

Dude has dropped off a cliff, sad to see

[@morsmagne]

I agree but I disagree with the implication that Trump is a bad guy - I think Trump and Elon Musk are what the whole world needs right now

[@ryan99842]

Unveiling Your Hidden Potential by Bruce Thornwood (thank me later)

[@slushyglue9167]

Go away, bot.

[@mrstefanos5883]

Trump 2024 baby! RFK jr, Tulsi, Elon, Vance, Vivek. In 4 years you will be proven wrong.

[@EyeLean5280]

The previous administration already proved him right. Trump displays none of the stoic virtues. I don't know why Trumpers need to pretend they're also Christians, or also Stoics, but it _is_ just a pretense. You can't be a Trumper _and_ care about virtue. I know honesty and self-reflection isn't really a MAGA thing, but honestly, you'll feel better if you come out of the closet as who you really are.

[@marcelo_pendragon]

I hope stoicism helps you deal with defeat, Ryan.

[@SocialCultofPersonality]

I assume we’re all here to improve our lives through the stoic philosophies that resonate with us . This presidential election doesn’t need our opinion, it is what it is , it doesn’t care what our opinion and we’re foolish to believe otherwise

[@marcusaurelius8130]

The TDS Stoic. Wonderful

[@justind9019]

I fear a lot of people will check out. After everythlng Trump has said and done, the majority of people still chose him as our leader. Our efforts were futile. He will select more Justices to the Supreme Court, cementing a deeply conservative stranglehold on our country and our future

[@joshsetzer8786]

@justind9019 Oh no, you don't mean that President Trump will uphold the Constitution and protect people's rights, freedom's, civil and religious Liberties? Yeah, that's why we voted for him to stop people like you. Case Closed!

[@augustus4832]

Trump is an old man. He won't be King. Other Republicans are not nearly as popular as him. And he is self-centered at best, a narcissist at worst who is still in the political game to save his ass. A young person giving up is a much bigger tragedy than whatever the old man can do.

[@futurekarlos5256]

Are you annoyed at Trump for doing his job when he was president? It's the presidents job to appoint new supreme court justices when one dies or retires.

[@justind9019]

@ not at all. It’s to be expected. I am annoyed at how weak the Democrats have been, including how Republicans blocked Obama on his appointments in the last year of his presidency yet Trump was allowed with little opposition when in the same position.

[@9y2bgy]

@@justind9019 That's the Senate for you though. The three branches of the government are supposed to be the checks and balance, but I think Trump is finding ways to circumvent that. He's sorta like Chauncey from Being There. He's a vacuous man who is used by those around him for their own purposes.

[@josephyoung_]

Sad to say Holiday has been ideologically possessed and has become a waste of time, nevermind

[@toddmcpherson8657]

unsubscribed

[@aceofspades9897]

Ryan really love your work but you are being a bit one sided on this topic. maybe a take a moment to remove yourself from the politics.. although the stoics encourage us to take part i think it is a different time and is much further out of our control, also you dont know either party personally so Kamala could be just as terrible, but we would not know.. either way keep doing you and who is in the white house will not affect our minds and spirits.

[@Blazerelf]

you are comparing a "could" with someone who actually did the thing

[@ko9600]

In what way “could “ Kamala be worse with a stoic method applied? Only 1 of the 2 individuals is the antithetical embodiment of any of the 4 virtues. Is it really Ryan who should remove the political view? Really?!

[@sneakers_guy5488]

Did you miss the vid where Ryan explicitly states that the stoics distinguish themselves from the epicureans by willingly engaging in public life instead of only doing so when called upon? He's practicing what he preaches, which i view as admirable, regardless of if you share his view of the world or not.

[@ko9600]

@ my commentary is solely based on views through the objective lens at the core virtues of stoicism. I welcome any criticism that enlightens my perspective. My only aspiration in the time I have, is the continuation of learning and pursuit of wisdom. I am content with being wrong from time to time on this journey. I wish the same to all.

[@Blazerelf]

@@ko9600 he is trying to justify his vote for trump by implying "both" sides are the same anyways lol

[@SanghoBose5]

I am happy that Trump won and I love this video.

[@PatBruno]

Unsubscribed 🤮

[@joseperez1085]

Just unsubscribed, stoic yeah right with a progressive liberal agenda.. I’m gone.

[@andres.biarge]

You can agree or disagree with who Ryan supported. What's undeniable is that this advice is for everyone.

[@RobertDay-b5w]

first time I feel disappointed in Mr. Holiday.

[@ASCII_GLINAMES]

"trump won, gonna kms womp womp"

[@raulsiniallikl2317]

So Ryan is woke dude after all?

[@akuseru85]

Probably getting pegged by his wife.

[@carloslinan88]

I’m happy for Americans for electing Trump! Time to leave Canada & move to USA

[@gordonstrong5232]

Canada supports your decision.

[@pietro_bosso]

Swimming in the tears of democrats...

[@kylechipman9472]

Just focus on enjoying high school

[@geraldstephens8791]

Move on Ryan. Trump won. Get over it.

[@jincs151]

Don't get your feelings hurt, there's no direct support just relevant to the times.

[@veronicamaine3813]

What is moving on look like though? for an American? I mean take a senior who depends on social security- they just put a bill to decimate it? What does moving on look like, Gerald?

[@geraldstephens8791]

@veronicamaine3813 wrong. There is NO bill taking away social security. Trump is not in office till January 20.

[@gallandtj]

Lol. Get over what? Trump won so everyone should stop caring about politics? When Biden won, people didn’t shut up about how bad he was.

[@9y2bgy]

What does that mean? Subvert one's core values and become his supporter because he won? Did those who love Trump "move on" when Biden won? From my recollection neither he nor his millions of bootlickers moved on for the last 4 years. He is the only ex president who didn't gracefully accept defeat and tried to steal it instead. Do you see Kamala doing that right now? You have a DEEPLY flawed man with a lot of power, and nearly hundred million Americans willingly gave him that power for various reasons. This is a space for Stoicism, and if you stay true to its teachings, there is little room to see Trump as anything close to any of Stoic teachings. He's more like Nero and Caligula mushed together which is the opposite of Stoic values.

[@AdamJones381]

I would move on Ryan if you want the audience to stick around.

[@HlanganisoMaluleke]

Seriously man, this is a bit much now 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Donrosco1]

Yea. Please. You’re very off here. Stop.

[@PaperbackJourneys]

This is topical AND aligns closely with Stoic philosophy, which emphasizes rationality and composure. You seeming to not want to discuss this and maybe having an emotional reaction to the video does not align with Stoic principles. Regardless of whether you support him or not, Trump embodies qualities that are contrary to the essence of Stoic teachings. It’s interesting and worth talking about.

[@JandJ561]

I already quit watching him due to his political statements. It’s a bummer I can’t listen to him anymore but it’s very important from any celebrity in my opinion that they remain neutral.

[@dougbernard4729]

Yep I’m out

[@chasewilliamson6977]

You guys do know stoicism is literally the opposite of wokism right?

[@akuseru85]

​@@EyeLean5280Nope

[@carlsny1023]

yall are delusional. you really think there is value in unmerited promotion vs actual hard work? wokism is cancer and America finally had enough

[@1w72st]

Ryan, this isn't really that helpful today. We come here to get a stoic perspective regarding a morally reprehensible person winning the election and your advice today is "hey... just don't kill yourself like Cato did."

[@thomabow8949]

Read a little bit deeper into the implications of not surrendering to despair that this video is trying to convey

[@SOLEINVICTVS.]

Bye bye

[@drewm1760]

bye

[@jincs151]

au revoir

[@hermitkrab792]

adios

[@wondays654]

Crying on youtube about an election that barely affects your day to day life is the opposite of stoic. Goodbye.

[@FreeFolkWilly]

It's really unfortunate. I just found Ryan on my nascent journey into Stoicism - which I need very much right now - but I keep getting put off by the political messages. I am not for or against anyone in particular, and the man can use his platform as he sees fit, I'm just of the mind that while politics are part of this subject matter, politicization destroys some of the substance and credibility for me.

[@dylanjames6841]

@@FreeFolkWillyyou’re both Trumpers and you’re upset he doesn’t agree with you. That’s fine. Bye!

[@jincs151]

Damm, you missed the entire message. Congratulations. I hope you can find it elsewhere.

[@wondays654]

​​​​@@dylanjames6841I didn't vote, I am just here for stoicism, if I wanted to hear politics I'd put on the news or go to other channels with more experience on the subject. Who becomes president almost never affects my day to day life, I'm just not sure why Ryan who is a millionaire and far removed from the common man is so emotionally invested in something that not only barely affects him, but he had no control over. He should practice what he preaches and stop pouring time and energy into something out of his hands.

[@vikmusic1165]

@@dylanjames6841”Trumpers”…😂. You sound triggered.

[@DirectRealism]

A lot of word salad if you ask me.

[@osiir5789]

Just like his candidate.

[@NackerBros]

@@osiir5789 GG

[@drewm1760]

no one asked you

[@scottk1525]

"while this may sound contemporary, it's actually the story of Cato the younger" *plays Elon & Trump footage. How dumb do you think people are, Ryan?