Stewart Lee talks about blasphemy and how religions deal with criticism. Talking to various commentators, including Liberty director Shami Chakrabarti, journalist Polly Toynbee and writer Alan Moore.
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@girlsinnottingham22016 жыл бұрын
he gave it to us straight, like a pear cider, made from 100% pear
@YourPalHDee5 жыл бұрын
PEARS! is it one giant pear????
@danm80045 жыл бұрын
@@YourPalHDee yes
@JimforbesRitte5 жыл бұрын
That pear cider joke has let itself go...
@gtb8705 жыл бұрын
100% pear cider has let itself go
@Tombrosapien4 жыл бұрын
Pear cider is grim
@Skinz0110 жыл бұрын
"Whether you think of the people behind me as hilarious bigots or well intentioned fools, they are none the less, divs." Hahaha!
@chasleask85336 жыл бұрын
That yellow shirt is excellent
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
The joke was on him. Those he served up to bolster his point are far more hypocritical than those they deride.....including Stewart Lee.
@darrenwilson994 жыл бұрын
@@Telcontar1962 I have no idea what the point you are trying to make.
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
Darren Wilson well just ask yourself politically where are his barbs most directed. Then ask yourself what views he espouses. As bigots go he is way out in front of those he has a pop at. In fact the mental gymnastics he has to go through to hold the opinions he does, let alone have a go at those he calls bigots is truly Olympian standard. I find him quite funny on occasion but his political views are more comedic than his actual material.
@Telcontar19624 жыл бұрын
@Wilbur Wafer or you are just too thick to understand? I know what my money is on :)
@ludakriss909410 жыл бұрын
Oh shit. "Presumably because it isn't 1508" :D too good.
@davepugh25197 жыл бұрын
I find it pretty offensive when I am told that I am a wicked sinner who deserves eternal punishment.
@Waldowsky6 жыл бұрын
Dave P, pussy.
@arsenalfanrichi6 жыл бұрын
@@Waldowsky The irony went straight over your head didn't it?
@danpearce45475 жыл бұрын
@Keith Farrell You're not 'a wicked sinner who deserves eternal punishment.' You're a very naughty boy!
@johnlowdon58095 жыл бұрын
Well stop kicking your dog.
@tomsdottir5 жыл бұрын
@@johnlowdon5809 That particular euphemism is a new one to me.
@chrisofnottingham8 жыл бұрын
It's Health & Safety gone mad.
@etontrifle8 жыл бұрын
Gran.
@mysund8 жыл бұрын
True, and my printer at work prints on both side as default. When will the madness stop.
@lavenderandred_8 жыл бұрын
chris4072511 "You couldn't make it up"
@mysund7 жыл бұрын
Its from a scooby doo feature: "Scooby Doo and the pirate zombie jungle island." And neither Partridge or any peartree was in this episode, eventhou they were specifically written into the script. But due to more than 30 year old budget cuts, they had to be removed.
@mrbtapir7 жыл бұрын
Ripleyesque Partridge actually said 'it's political correctness gone mad' in reply to Lynn but I can't remember why.
@xe6667 жыл бұрын
The Goodness Gracious Me sketch being banned because 300 people out of 5 MILLION complained is fucking ridiculous.Letting the minority dictate what others can see is worrying
@MsAdesio10 жыл бұрын
Stewart is the quintessential Brit, and I mean that in every positive way
@hanssprungfeld84873 жыл бұрын
No such thing
@timothysoar13212 жыл бұрын
And Johnnie Rotten
@truthtrumpsdumbness63810 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable ....excellent, calm, reasoned argument against outrageous rants by silly folk, who don't even understand what they are ranting about
@HJJallday6 жыл бұрын
This should be required viewing in all RE classes.
@martinbrittain25734 жыл бұрын
Yes and so should The Life of Brian, followed by a long discussion
@mustafarussell4 жыл бұрын
In every school I've ever worked in, the case for atheism and some of the blasphemy that goes with it has been made. What should be more commonly debated in sensible public forums is the notion that mankind only comes to know and think through the limitless benevolence of the creator. The movement away from godliness has come hand in hand with a dangerous reliance on science and technology. An atheistic mindset is ultimately less successful. Particularly in the next life.
@HJJallday4 жыл бұрын
Mustafa Russell would love to know how you know what helps you in the afterlife?! I suspect you may have one book you value above others?
@mustafarussell4 жыл бұрын
@@HJJallday if you are sincere in wanting to know, I will happily tell
@GlasgowGallus4 жыл бұрын
As long as RE is on any curriculum, atheism, or any counterpoint should be demonstrated equally...
@bad-girlbex37919 жыл бұрын
"They are, nonetheless, divs!" Oh Stewart, I fucking love you!
@christonamtb40898 жыл бұрын
i think i love you bex
@JFoster47 жыл бұрын
It's scary how this documentary is far more relevant now, 10 years after its release.
@ol751233 жыл бұрын
still relevant today
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster20002 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest it's even worse now. We have ideologies that have no tolerance. Cannot be criticised. Nothing should be above criticism in this country.
@simtime75912 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 Yes but who is doing the canceling these days, its the liberals isn't it.... so what does that tell you.. It tells me, the liberals of today, are not really liberals at all..
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
@@simtime7591 so the ones doing the cancelling aren’t the liberals then.
@owenevans832 жыл бұрын
@@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 Agreed
@DanBakerMusic3 жыл бұрын
Utterly compelling and I agree with everything stated here. Why can we not have Stewart Lee do a tour of schools? His personality and complete ease with any subject coupled with a beautiful use of language would enlighten any classroom.
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
Lol. Are you his agent?
@ThunderChunky1012 жыл бұрын
Remember when Lee was opposed to censorship and did a documentary complaining about how his opera was censored? Well now we know it was all total bullsh*t - he's now protesting to have an interviewer censored for doing an interview with someone he disagrees with. Oh and he also used to pretend to be opposed to totalitarianism and pro-freedom, but as with all leftists this too is demonstrable nonsense, because he wants the state, lead by the Tories BTW, to be able to force people to be injected with experimental and dangerous drugs four times a year. Absolutely inexcusable behaviour. He's gone from one of my favourite comedians to probably my least favourite living person.
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderChunky101 That sounds like a difficult break-up. My condolences.💐
@plebjames2 жыл бұрын
@@ThunderChunky101 which interviewer is he protesting to have censored, and who did he interview?
@MrFuzzyGreen2 жыл бұрын
Putting Lee in schools is a lovely idea until he starts picking on one part of the class for not finding him as funny as the rest of the class.
@luciusseneca438010 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy is a victimless crime
@martinda744610 жыл бұрын
Unless its solid or sharpened blasphemy.
@mohitoness10 жыл бұрын
***** should be a warning at the front page of the internet
@martinda744610 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, a warning about jimmyshitbags' profile photo...Holy shit! ;o)
@heatrayzvideo300710 жыл бұрын
It's not a crime
@John.AR.Activism7 жыл бұрын
Its not even a crime. A crime is taking our money to spend on bullshit, and the government allows it.
@colco278310 жыл бұрын
It's about time we in Britain told our politicians to make our country a secular one. Remove charitable status from all faith groups.
@steiffbar6 жыл бұрын
Same here in the US. And it's getting worse. :(
@YourPalHDee5 жыл бұрын
Why?
@StevieRevbo5 жыл бұрын
"our politicians" and "our country" - ? lol
@ulalaFrugilega5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Bind charitable status to charitable deeds. Too simple to be done, though, I guess.
@petehouse83804 жыл бұрын
TheTimbalanders nonsense, I’m a lefty, and I despise ALL religions.
@AvangionQ4 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy: speech that has been outlawed to prevent your religion from losing arguments.
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@C Stew There is some real hate out there. Of the hate crimes based on a religious bias, `60.2 percent were victims of crimes motivated by offenders’ anti-Jewish bias.` ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2019/topic-pages/victims
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@@1inchPunchBowl That was a reply to a now deleted message ... keep up, right back at you. ... or are you just trolling?
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Daw I think religion lost many an argument.
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Daw Two things to say when people make that Pascal's Wager argument: which god? There's thousands of religions, each mutually exclusive. Funny that god makes no appearance in the natural world, yet people still believe in fairy tales. To you, this sort of logic might be blasphemy, but to me, this is religion losing arguments. Are you getting it yet?
@AvangionQ3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Daw You're a self-deluded bad joke, I have nothing more to say to you.
@starkRECORDINGS12 жыл бұрын
I consider myself educated (and still quite ignorant), but I always learn and have something new to think about when I listen to Stewart Lee - Stewart is a very clever bloke - keep it coming Stewart!
@guitarreilly8 жыл бұрын
religions let itself go
@Jesse__H4 жыл бұрын
All these people are so well-spoken. Comparing the discourse seen here with an average American political issue interview just, well, it gives me conniptions.
@NeilMalthus2 жыл бұрын
Conniptions??? 🤣 (I did have to google it!)
@FTZPLTC2 жыл бұрын
Sadly we do and did have plenty of erratic dickwads as well. We just didn't feel obligated to put them on TV. We do now though.
@modgrip8052 жыл бұрын
You can get a cream for that.
@John-dd7ez Жыл бұрын
I caught conniptions from a dirty girl.
@teresasteele53275 жыл бұрын
I can remember when I first questioned the Catholic church. I was 12 years old sat in church with my mum shaking hands in peace with members of the congregation and I thought that's all well and good inside a house of worship, but what about outside in the real world? I like the quiet reflection you can have in the more ancient parochial buildings, when you are left alone with your thoughts without the intrusion of the 'Mass', but I can get that from looking out to sea. I believe in people, and love.
@DuskAndHerEmbrace132 жыл бұрын
God is in the world and in people. Not one other object among others, or one other person among others. He is the source of all objects and persons. The love you feel and describe there any intelligent Christian would recognise as contact with God, but it is still far removed. Religion is guiding your sense closer towards God and guiding your life into alignment with him. Which is the centre of everything.
@bluecheese106612 күн бұрын
@@DuskAndHerEmbrace13 With respect, that reads as complete gibberish. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of a god, and a god is not required as explanation for the love we feel, or anything else for that matter. It's mythology. If you can provide evidence to prove me wrong, I am all ears.
@nickmagee-brown73910 жыл бұрын
God this man is extremely smart. Understand him and you understand how smart his humour is.
@marcbaigrie22954 жыл бұрын
What a pretentious comment
@hpebackwards3 жыл бұрын
Stew should put this on his website.
@Jordannadroj203 жыл бұрын
The thing is, he gives it to you straight. Like a pear cider, made from 100% pears
@taliesyn1211 жыл бұрын
An excellent , reasoned and informative programme. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it again and, frankly, I am quite amused at the idea that some people really believe that a Pan dimensional ,Omnipotent Super Being would actually need them to stick up for it.
@estebansteverincon71173 жыл бұрын
How do you blaspheme against something you can't actually demonstrate to exist???
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
That, sir, is a fucking marvellous point.
@iainrae6159 Жыл бұрын
When I hear someone say,' as a Christian' a small part of me dies.
@MarkOldfield42Ай бұрын
Can the KZbin algorithm please pull this to the top. A lot of people and the government would benefit from watching this I'm sure
@tomwilko78419 жыл бұрын
"Whether you think of the people behind me as hysterical bigots or well intentioned fools, they are none the less...divs"
@Deks2K56 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to this avenue of trees where i have all my most profound thoughts" - love Stu xD
@chickenbento2 жыл бұрын
@12:40 "Even bastions of free speech, like the guardian " is probably the funniest line I've heard come out of Stewart's mouth.
@ThunderChunky1012 жыл бұрын
Even funnier now that he's actively pressuring Spotify to censor Joe Rogan! What a truly awful person.
@6chhelipilot10 жыл бұрын
Satan has let himself go.
@ianedmonds91914 жыл бұрын
He looks like prince.
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster20002 жыл бұрын
@@ianedmonds9191 the artist formally known as Stuart Lee?
@jackthebassman18 жыл бұрын
Mocking religion? And so it should be mocked, ridiculed, not only for the stupidity of believing in something for which there is not a single shred of evidence but mainly for the personal and mass hatred, misery, wars and death carried out in it's name. As Richard Dawkins said in an interview "When was the last time an atheist flew an aeroplane into a skyscraper" (paraphrased). Religion is not only primitive it is divisive, disgusting and kills.
@juliewake45855 жыл бұрын
Jack bassman and of course there’s Christopher Hitchens.
@canturgan11 жыл бұрын
I was brought up a Catholic and taught by nuns and I thought Jerry Springer The Opera was hilarious. I saw it five times.
@ulalaFrugilega5 жыл бұрын
canturgan interesting! Do you consider yourself a good catholic? Bc your upbringing-history doesn't clarify that.
@asnieres322 жыл бұрын
You were obviously well educated and can think for yourself. The people protesting a springer opera could not do a join the dots.
@ab8jeh Жыл бұрын
28:25 aged like fine wine. This was filmed ten years ago and we're here now in 2022.
@Melsharpe95 Жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@LouiseBrooksBob Жыл бұрын
The current war on trans people in the UK is being conducted in the courts by evangelical Christian activist lawyers and by religious activists at the top level of government. Some members of the UK government at top level have been openly talking to Christian Nationalist groups in the USA.
@steiffbar6 жыл бұрын
I remember when "The Last Temptation of Christ" was released and I went to see it in Raleigh NC. I was VERY excited about the movie. My parents were Methodists (and, hence, pretty harmless, really) and they never ONCE said, "You should behave this way and believe this way blah blah blah". If anything, I think we went to church and Sunday school because THEIR folks had done it, and their folks etc., and it was basically just a social construct. Later in their lives, they pretty much stopped going altogether. But anyway .... that is my background. (And I'm an atheist.) When I got to the theatre, there were about 12-15 people outside PROTESTING. For them, depicting Christ (who was MADE to be played by Willem Defoe BTW) as possibly living a "human" life, loving a woman, having a wife and child - that was the highest form of blasphemy ever suggested! Oh NO! We can't have THAT! They actually were carrying signs saying stuff like, "Close this theatre!", "This whole cast will be thrown into hell!" or "The devil possesses Martin Scorsese!" (I am not joking. Who could forget THAT one?) They looked 100% ridiculous. Of course, this made peeps like me even MORE determined to see the film and I came out of it going, "Wow!" I'd never been exposed to thinking like that before. The movie was nothing short of (pardon the word) miraculous for me because, besides being a completely BEAUTIFUL film, it made me start thinking in so many other ways. I decided that the film made Christ MORE divine because HE HAD been a human man, dealing with basic life things and trying to teach people elementary tenants of good behavior in a terribly dangerous time and who, for all the good he did, got killed by the political machine that was Roman rule. Why? Because he challenged established government and law. People like him couldn't be allowed to go around or else the entire Roman way of life would collapse because .... people would start thinking for themselves. Christians say you have to have a "personal relationship" with Christ to be a good Christian. Well, how much more "personal" can you get than to identify with another human being pushed to his limits and still managing to be a gentle, kind and caring individual who - when pushed, like the story of him in the temple with the moneylenders - recognizes injustice and speaks UP? That is - or should be - universal.
@plebjames2 жыл бұрын
That Christians have to have a 'personal relationship with Christ' is a result of Protestantism. In the old days, it was less important that you actually believed, and more important that you did what the pope said i.e. respect Roman rule. Protestants said their individual relationship to god was the important thing, and that's what made it more about belief and less about practical observance
@Gen74863 жыл бұрын
“Jerry Springer The Opera” is more relevant in 2020 than it was then to be honest.
@paulgraham6316 Жыл бұрын
By far the most intelligent and relevant stand-up comic on the planet. Can't wait to see him in Liverpool next month.
@klausgartenstiel45864 жыл бұрын
my stance is, if you decide to go to war against somebody, you better be ready to fight in that war to the bitter end.
@MrSamBroughton11 жыл бұрын
Stewart Lee is brilliant. Great film.
@celtic51772 жыл бұрын
Glad to see, even with all the hate his play got by these people, that he takes an open-minded, wide ranging view on religion, even as an atheist. A breath of fresh air in a sphere so often infested with lazy bigotry.
@paulmitchell53495 жыл бұрын
There is rarely a wise man shouting in the street.
@curmudgeon193310 ай бұрын
28:40. The selection of Mike Johnson, a self-admitted fundamentalist Southern Baptist Christian, as Speaker of the US House of Representatives, with medieval opinions on almost every current major issue, proves Mr. Lee's view that we are regressing back to the Dark Ages. I'm expecting a rerun of the Salem Witch Trials to begin any day soon.
@colz2210 жыл бұрын
Does that minister's yellow shirt and jeans combo count as blasphemy?
@bluetv63863 жыл бұрын
Nah it was dyed in pear cider that’s bla-bla-bla...
@roberttaylor65773 жыл бұрын
Hari krishnas use his church hall
@quirkypurple4 жыл бұрын
To quote Hitchens. "Offence is taken, not given. "
@titteryenot45242 жыл бұрын
Or as Shakespeare said: *there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so* .
@rhaeven2 ай бұрын
Offense is both taken and given. You cannot take what someone hasn't given.
@CharlieBBoy1234511 жыл бұрын
I thought this was brilliant. A relevant documentary that manages to be both serious and funny . Gotta love Alan Moore too: I met him once, and he was just as witty, interesting, intelligent and warm (and quirky) as he seems on screen.
@1pauljs6 жыл бұрын
Can't believe this was on channel 5. A reasonable look at something with no hyperbole or ridiculousness.
@noelmciver73710 күн бұрын
Stewart, viewing from Perth, Western Australia. Thanks for your excellent videos!
@petercolledge22362 жыл бұрын
Lovely post. God bless you, Stew. On a religious note, the statement 'God Is Not Mocked' is simply that. It's on a par with 'the Sun heats up the Earth'. Simple fact, which you may or may not agree with. But it does mean that protestors asking that God be not mocked are not understanding that simple statement.
@carpenter30693 жыл бұрын
What I love most is these religious people bashing science while they drive a new car, probably the most advanced scientific conglomeration of scientific invention the average person will own.
@shelbyvillerules99623 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean say what you want about the Amish… because they’ll probably never read any comments on KZbin.
@dannycheesums10 жыл бұрын
Welcome to this avenue of trees, where I have all of my most profound thoughts! Fucking love it!
@FiveSigma7211 жыл бұрын
Thats the first time Ive ever seen Alan Moore crack a smile. Its beautiful seeing two of my heroes in the same room, clearly liking each others company. If you are truly religious and intelligent, isnt the only logical conclusion that the universe is run by a vain, jeallous, worship needy, vengeful smiter of a beast that you just better get onside with? I think most religious folk are just trying to buy insurance for the soul, and behave no more moraly than an athiest.
@domhuckle5 ай бұрын
More documentaries from the peerless Mr Lee please world
@deaddocreallydeaddoc524411 ай бұрын
The point of the Danish Cartoons was to expose the intolerance of Islam. The point is the question of whether it is desirable or even safe to have such people in your country, in the West. The response by some Christians that they, too, ought to be allowed to be outraged and attack such people and groups as might lampoon their silly religions, is outstanding proof of the sort of retrograde effect of religious belief on civilization.
@paulr345710 жыл бұрын
Blasphemy cannot exist unless you believe in that religion which I don't, therefore it doesn't exist. So christians must be blaspheming to Jews and Muslims for saying Jesus is the son of God. It's complete and utter bollocks, how can a religion be offended, it's not conscious. Don't get me fucking started on freedom of speech, it's a matter opinion which nobody has a monopoly on. Isn't it ironic that if I condemn religions for actually mutilating baby and older boys penises that I'm the one doing something wrong. We have to have a proper secular society. If you don't like something on the tele SWITCH CHANNELS. They're part of the offended brigade marching up and down the street waiting for something or someone to offend them.
@figletfromfiggy9 жыл бұрын
trying to understand nonsensical nonsense is a slippery slope that will at best leave you feeling frustrated and at worst leave you feeling angry and frustrated!
@enigmatic4749 жыл бұрын
thank god you said it (and very eloquently too i might add!), i was about to kick off!
@paulr34579 жыл бұрын
Tom Thanks for that. Do I detect a hint of sarcasm when you say "thank god"?
@enigmatic4749 жыл бұрын
haha, i'll hold my hands up and admit i didn't realise i said that! rather embarrassing.. but still, i'm going to argue it's not hypocritical on linguistic grounds! it's a common expression! :S
@paulr34579 жыл бұрын
Tom Agree...I know what you mean.
@rallokkcaz5 жыл бұрын
Lol I was watching The Day Today and this came on after an episode, and I thought I was still watching it. Holy fuckz
@rtpcr39697 жыл бұрын
In the entire first Christian century Jesus is not mentioned by a single Greek or Roman historian, religion scholar, politician, philosopher or poet. His name never occurs in a single inscription, and it is never found in a single piece of private correspondence. Zero! Zip references! Bart D. Ehrman
@anthonybowman34237 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Josephus near the end of the first century? I never put much stock in the Josephus and even if it was it would still be an enormous lack of reference to someone as supposedly huge as Jesus, but in the pursuit of accuracy here...
@Torthrodhel5 жыл бұрын
Really? Jesus Christ.
@pterafirma4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonybowman3423 - Josephus never mentioned him either. No copy of his history from prior to the 4th Century contains the abruptly incongruent out-of-context passage about Jesus that gets inserted centuries later by church founder Origen. It's not even a _good_ forgery.
@FlyingSpaghettiMonster20002 жыл бұрын
@@Torthrodhel underappreciated comment
@CC-ff7ft2 жыл бұрын
A great little documentary by Lee. Its mental that 300 complaints has more power than 5 million viewers .
@darklingeraeld-ridge79466 жыл бұрын
I was on a long coach journey recently and the man I was sitting next to informed me that he believes Jesus was perfect, the only perfect human being. So why didn't he found a better religion, if he was? If he was so perfect, why are his followers STILL contradicting each other about what he said and what we are meant to believe - and why do so many people not follow him at all? In fat, why did he found a religion whose central tenets have always been routinely lambasted by its own followers? Situations like that coach journey are terrible temptations...... tempting to quietly accept, because of the painful embarrassment of thinking out loud, utter crap, posing as goodness and moral fortitude. Praises be to Stewart Lee ! - for speaking out, barefacedly.
@justcomments11 жыл бұрын
Very thought provoking :) I remember being very surprised by the outcry about those shitty characatures, when most people I spoke to had such a level headed lack of response to such petty antagonism. We have much to fear from paranoid religious conservatives everywhere.
@Woltato9 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore - Worshipper of Glycon. Seems like a nutter but no more crazy than Christians who believe that virgins have babies and that Dead people come back to life or Muslims who believe in flying horses. All religions are mad, it's just that some more established religions have been around for longer and are therefore regarded as respectable even though they're all completely loony.
@ZER0--9 жыл бұрын
+Woltato I think you'll find that Alan Moore has his tongue firmly in his cheek in regard to believing in Glycon. He also wrote graphic novels about Peter Pan, Alice (of Wonderland) and tinkerbell, having sex together.
@Woltato9 жыл бұрын
Paul L The point I was making is that his beliefs, whether tongue in cheek or not, are no more crazy than those of the established religions. I find Muslims and Christians amusing when they start talking about all the mad shit they believe in.
@MrMoonman30008 жыл бұрын
+Woltato What really makes it funny, is the cult of Glycon is infamously known as having been a hoax. The cult actually used a puppet. So, Alan is really making a statement about religious belief as all being hoaxes. Having seen documentaries, interviews, and read his work, it makes perfect sense for Alan to claim he is worshiping Glycon.
@paologeminiani8 жыл бұрын
+Woltato You think you are so smart...But you can´t prove that miracles don´t happen...So there is nothing illogical in believing in the vergin conception of Mary if God exists....The existence of God is the only logical explaination to the origin of the universe....Tell me who has the most irrational answer ? You believe that everything came out of nothing ,,,,,
@MrMoonman30008 жыл бұрын
Paolo Geminiani Whahahahahahahahahaaa!
@BodyInFlight19835 жыл бұрын
I'd give my left crucifix to be a fly on the wall in that Alan Moore and Stuart Lee chat.
@feetunes4 жыл бұрын
Maltese fly?
@BodyInFlight19834 жыл бұрын
David Fee They are lighter than ordinary flies.
@LordmonkeyTRM2 жыл бұрын
Imagine my surprise when I saw this a Channel 5 production.
@TheCrimsonLupus2 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore, talking about America rejecting science and devolving due to religious fundamentalism is so prescient!
@WORKERS.DREADNOUGHT5 жыл бұрын
We only need a blasphemy law cos god has really let himself go...
@MikeyC58610 жыл бұрын
It DOES feel like 1508 sometimes....
@bendaniel22712 ай бұрын
Alan Moore knows the score. Can you dig it? His words are particularly pertinent this week.
@aboemusic Жыл бұрын
Enjoyable and informing viewing. A touch on the unbalaced side in terms of the number of those representing religious viewpoints vs else, but that's probably what Lee was going for. These sorts of programs make you wonder 'just how many people have their worlds flipped on their heads after watching programs like these?' Hopefully that number is exponentially increasing, because it is freedom of thought (if such a thing exists) which is pretty crucial (one imagines) if a society is to move toward enlightened times.
@SpecificallyDanielSwan7 жыл бұрын
You had me at 'divs'.
@bengray41493 жыл бұрын
This documentary needs to be updated in light of the Charlie Hebdo massacres. UK comedians have been egregiously silent on the recent atrocities in France, Stew Lee seems more interested in supping on a glass of pricey wine and yapping about 80s bands and the mild inconvenience of lockdown than any show of support for the martyrs who have been slaughtered over a cartoon. What does it take to get him and his cosy fellow chuckle-meisters "started" these days. Shameful and cowardly. Interested in police corruption, torture and kidnap? visit bristolspotlight.tech
@H4NDCRAFTED11 жыл бұрын
I put the bible into the fiction section every time I walk through Waterstones. If I'm going to hell there better be uncut cocaine.
@FantasticMrMolko10 жыл бұрын
As a Waterstones employee may I point out that that small gesture serves no purpose other than to make our lives more difficult? You're not making any point other than "I'm an egocentric twat who thinks my decision to shun religion makes me better than the rest of you." On behalf of my colleagues could you kindly stop doing this? It's not religious fundamentalists who suffer when we can't find books that you've hidden or when we have to spend part of our day second guessing your comedic inclinations. Thanks.
@H4NDCRAFTED10 жыл бұрын
You have mistaken me for somebody with an ego, where as you obviously wear one on your sleeve. Also I'm not so dumb that I don't know you are trolling, that isn't even good trolling. More of a cover for how you really feel.
@FantasticMrMolko10 жыл бұрын
Then please tell me what you are achieving?
@FantasticMrMolko10 жыл бұрын
You have no ego and yet you feel the need to make people's jobs harder just to make your rather boring and tired point?
@FantasticMrMolko10 жыл бұрын
I'm not trolling, I'm a genuine Waterstones employee and it genuinely does not give us any amusement or even a smile when even a second of our day is wasted dealing with your failed attempts at comedy.
@richardhall206 Жыл бұрын
It's 2023 and church attendance has continued to fall with now only 5% of Brits attending regularly. Even at the time of Jerry Springer - The Musical, attendance was barely double-digit. That such a tiny minority would have such a disproportionate impact on the media is insane. That this piece of art was so impacted by fringe loonies is such a shame.
@chelseagas26913 жыл бұрын
"Bastions of free speech, The Guardian". Funniest part of the whole thing 🤣😂
@kieronmcnulty61773 жыл бұрын
Their tremendous and prolonged support for Julian Assange being the greatest example of this bastion
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
Well they’re the only truly independent newspaper in the uk. So, you know, facts and all that.
@thevo41002 жыл бұрын
@@peteconrad2077 They are funded by Open Democracy and the Gates Foundation. If they had to survive on sales and ad revenue they wouldn't exist. It isn't independent in the slightest.
@peteconrad20772 жыл бұрын
@@thevo4100 they are funded by sales and thousands of donors. The ones you mentioned are amongst the larger ones but they exercise no control over the paper and do not contribute a controlling amount. Contrast that with the billionaire owned right wing rage that you read. They’re independent in every meaningful way, especially free for the bigoted stupidity of fat right billionaires.
@thevo41002 жыл бұрын
@@peteconrad2077 How do you know what control their donors exert? Why are they giving them money? Out of kindness? Why not say the same for other papers? Because left good, right bad? I assume that's the depth of the reasoning here.
@crypticTV2 жыл бұрын
2:38 paradise lost 5:43 isn't 1508 7:30 god's no 8:00 life of Brian Christian 8:39 rashdi Muslim 9:15 Behzti Sikh 9:32 against free speech 10:33 race to be offended. Fatwa joke 11:24 manufactured protest 12:07 Danish cartoon cycling helmet 13:40 against religious protection 14:40 no right to be not offended 14:52 exception 16:07 Islam push for protection 18:40 BBC protection of religion 19:15 religious school division 20:15 divine right rather than electorate 21:19 jokes about beliefs democratic truth 22:15 protestants Vs Catholic 22:30 offense Vs provocation for the sake of it 22:53 new communities should adapt 23:10 24:12 legitimate religions 23:58 Iraq war 26:25 Paris Hilton 27:55 religious fundamentalism from religious revivalism 80 years ago 28:26 USA religion politics 29:52 faith schools - selection bias 31:35 34:08 religion taught as facts in school 32:50 USA George Bush religious loony 33:00 no secular school 33:40 politics use religion 34:45 Christian against Hinduism 35:16 36:05 religious taught in schools good Vs bad 35:32 accused of blasphemy 36:40 open debate free speech 38:00 beliefs not obstruction to dialogue Monty python
@d_ruggs2 жыл бұрын
omg, you had some spare time
@chrisgilliver14 жыл бұрын
I love Stewart Lee, but focusing on whether the Danish cartoons were funny or "clumsy" is completely missing the point. The response (death threats, riots etc) to them was inexcusable.
@MsGeeforce3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it didn't escape my notice that satire of Christianity was described as "thoughtful" or "insightful" or "affectionate" while cartoons satirising Islam were branded "clumsy".
@tomherbert23613 жыл бұрын
I think what they mean by clumsy is just that they were shit cartoons
@chrisgilliver13 жыл бұрын
@@tomherbert2361 I'm sure he did mean that, but as the guy above points out, his language and focus are noticeably different when talking about stuff to do with Islam. Let's not forget that innocent people died as a result of those cartoons. Perhaps he should be more concerned about that.
@tomherbert23613 жыл бұрын
@@chrisgilliver1 he clearly is concerned about it
@trevorsmith89503 жыл бұрын
Clumsy sounds like a euphemism for racist, imho
@joefarang3 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see stu and polly toynbee talk more... i''ven heard loads of stu and allen moore before, but i get the feeling an extended section iwth PT would be quite rewarding viewing.
@BethSmyls Жыл бұрын
I love you Stewart Lee and Alan Moore. Thank you for talking sense.
@StoutProper5 жыл бұрын
Wait, surely if they're Christians they're a forgiving lot?
@MezMcG4 жыл бұрын
Oh, they are, riiiiight up until the moment you do something against THEM.
@ulalaFrugilega5 жыл бұрын
Somewhat later, less angry: schools should teach ethics, - a history of all religions and philosophy. All schools, all pupils.
@sofa-lofa42413 жыл бұрын
Same view here, I went to a UK state school, we were forced to learn religious education the Church of England way, from years 1 - 3, I opted out (backed up from a letter from my parents) and spent that lesson in the library self learning about all religions, I'm not special or clever, but possibly more rounded than most in this area, I would urge everyone to do the same, I think religious tolerance is key.... Not fighting for one corner
@ulalaFrugilega3 жыл бұрын
@@sofa-lofa4241 During your first 3 school-years you spent hours reading books on religion in the school library? That is impressive indeed!
@juliewake45855 жыл бұрын
I think only Stewart Lee could do this. It’s a combination of weird satire (of course) and very serious comment about the absurdity of religious extremism.
@fusox3 ай бұрын
I love Stewart, he is brilliantly intelligent .....
@sooper2dooper311 жыл бұрын
19:50 Alan Moore knows the score!
@cupidstunt704 жыл бұрын
Sorry, 7 years late but you sure can dig it obviously.
@gollumtheartisticnewt10282 жыл бұрын
Whatever the complaints by the Christians, thry never cut anyone's head off.
@monkeymox25442 жыл бұрын
Erm... yes they have. Christianity has plenty of blood on its hands.
@gollumtheartisticnewt10282 жыл бұрын
@@monkeymox2544 Where? Exact places. In this century. You are suffering from white man's guilt. A therapist could help you.
@PorthLlwyd2 ай бұрын
@@gollumtheartisticnewt1028 Anne Boleyn
@mauricecoffey95196 жыл бұрын
Beautifully observed narrative. Thank you, Stewart Lee, I've just added you to my pantheon of heroes. I hope you do shows in Dublin because I would camp out to get a ticket. I loved your monologue on Richard Hammond and thanks also for turning me on to Mr Funny himself Henning Wehn. I'm off to check your tour dates to see if you're coming to Ireland. That was a brilliant documentary. Please do more...
@mydarlinggirlrachae6 жыл бұрын
Wish he would visit Australia....while I can understand why he doesn't, I wouldn't either, its bloody awful.
@chatteyj9 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Stuart Lees show on islam! It'll be a hoot. Who agrees?
@ianpritchard63752 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore ... brilliant!! (as was the whole programme)
@robywill43215 жыл бұрын
Insightful and hilarious, love it
@CBL593H9 жыл бұрын
Mr Renfrew is excellent.
@fannimadarasz21258 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore. Fucking awesome...
@noahway76909 ай бұрын
This video has popped the balloon on how I see religion. I see how much effort I was putting toward a 'god'. In 2024.
@medalion13907 ай бұрын
Are you just done with organised religion or the concept of a god in general?
@thadtuiol17172 жыл бұрын
Such a brave man is Stewart, he only goes for the low-hanging fruit of the kumbaya happy-clappy christians, but doesn't dare say shit to the followers of a certain other Abrahamic religion because that would involve the very real possibility of him receiving physical violence.
@raoulmontefiore48032 ай бұрын
Well it is Christians he has a beef with because it was specifically them that went after him. He also describes Salman Rushdie's problems with violent islamic prohibition, in case you missed that bit.
@LucaEnzo3 жыл бұрын
Problem with the Stewart Lee types is its all fair game when it comes to the kinder and softer faiths, that at most their followers will protest you with acoustic guitars and cardboard sounds But it's not OK to mock or satirize Islam, with its followers bringing knives and terrorism to the equation. Funny that huh
@richf33442 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. He has a section of his stand-up that makes jokes about Muslims and Islam, just to take the p*ss out of people like you who say that cliched nonsense 😂
@Dan_13482 жыл бұрын
@@richf3344 Did you actually watch the video? The difference was noticeable...
@ryanlionuk5 жыл бұрын
“Even bastions of free speech like the guardian wouldn’t publish the cartoons...” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that quote aged well.
@johnboydojo5 жыл бұрын
"God" I Love Stewart Lee 😂
@shepja873 жыл бұрын
"When religions embody immorality and irrationality, they must be open to criticism" ^^^THIS^^^
@jamesbutler6253 Жыл бұрын
To answer the question - There is nothing wrong with blasphemy. I don't accept the notion of blasphemy because I don't accept that it is possible to offend non-existent "beings" or to offend people by talking about or portraying the non-existent "beings" they believe in.
@MrMilo20006 жыл бұрын
These all-powerful deities are remarkably thin-skinned.
@MrBurnem198310 жыл бұрын
Judas has let himself go
@heyimrobee10 жыл бұрын
Great episode, thanks for sharing it!
@colinduck601011 жыл бұрын
His whole point is that people who want him to do anti-Islamic jokes don't want him to make to make accurate and informed jokes, they basically just want him to attack Muslims. The general public, and he himself, don't understand Islamic religion and culture enough to make clever observations about it, whereas Christianity is something he knows well and most British people have grown up with a basic understanding of.
@cessrcd8 жыл бұрын
The Prophet Mohammed has let himself go...bless his name
@japeking18 жыл бұрын
Thank you...that was lovely ....and frightening. Sometime in the 60's ( I think ) someone wrote a play about the lifeboat rescues from a sinking ship of Whitby. The lifeboat crew , going back into the storm for about the 4th or 5th time were drunk and most drowned when the lifeboat overturned. 150 years after the event ( about ) and the playwright was driven from Whitby by death threats....... just saying that it isn't only religion that inspires irrational hatred.
@NeilMalthus2 жыл бұрын
There will always be exceptions where nutters and their nutty ways are concerned. That said, it IS mostly religion / right wing scum to be found at the bottom of that particular barrel. Capitalism devised religion and saw how the poor lapped it up. And that's why pretty much every government around the world loves it and the system is based on it.
@Malt4542 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't only religion that inspires irrational hatred - but it is the primary force that attempts to make it look rational and culturally acceptable. You can get far more people to agree that driving the playwright out of Whitby was crazy than you can get to agree that killing a cartoonist for drawing Muhammad is wrong.
@lexwoodstevens7287 Жыл бұрын
An aunt of mine died and was revived after a few minutes. She had the wits scared out of her because she thought she had gone to hell and talked for months about how bad her near death experience in hell had been. In her words, insufferably hot and uncomfortable. Eventually, in an attempt to shut her up she was challenged to say something positive. Her response was "the catering was excellent, the devilled eggs were delicious"
@OutofDarkness_jik Жыл бұрын
Humorous at the end of your comment, but leading up to it, a truth which many other people are reported to have witnessed. I was never taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ sitting in a CofE church all the way through to my mid-teens. However, living in the U.S. since age 25, now 52, I found Christ at 38, he delivered me from 20 years of alcohol that began in the UK, and I have never been so happy being born again. It's not an American religious fanaticism. It is the UK that is spiritually super-cold and walking into the gates of hell by itself.... It needs a big revival like the one in Wales. The average person, me included, was raised to believe that you'll get into heaven if you don't do anything bad. You're a good person, you won't go to hell. Such utter rubbish and the height of ignorance of parents and others that think they know it all, being handed down the same mistruths down the years from older generations. And so it repeats. The devil is in the church all over the world, and that's IF you ever get to one. He doesn't have to work on you if you're already in the pubs and the clubs. He just never wants you to find out the TRUTH that you need to confess Jesus as your Lord, believe God raised Him from the dead, for you to be saved. Then tell everyone else. Pray for the sick, raise the dead. This is the commandments of our Lord. Mark chapter 16. We also need a relationship with Christ, see John chapter 15. Else he will tell us in that day, I never knew you, depart from me. The altar is not a ticket to heaven. It is the beginning of a commitment of a relationship with the one who loved you while you were still a sinner, and one who didn't deserve to die for you, so that you would live eternally. The devil os pulling out all the stops to try to prevent humanity from finding out the truth. See 2 Corinthians 4:4. In my case at least, he succeeded, until I was 38 when Jesus saved me before it was too late.
@John-dd7ez Жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen someone in the desert remove the head of a person dressed in an orange jump suit in the name of atheism.