Seriously, all the classes look to be quite fun. I'd say it's hard to make a mistake. Pick whatever class looks to have the playstyle you're after. Do you want DPS, Healing, Tanking? That's the bigger question. I'll be doing Ranger myself. Also, there has not been a pass on balancing yet, so things will change over the months for sure.
@AszkalonOfVerra2 ай бұрын
Thank You, GrappLr. 🙂👍
@TheToledoTrumptonАй бұрын
Yeah at this stage of the game where we are really talking about Archetypes not classes, it is difficult to say what the 64 classes are going to play like. Who can say what the addition of pets, or stealth, or self-healing or tankiness, or bardiness 😂, and so on will have when a second architype is chosen, to complete the final class.
@kevinpackard8249Ай бұрын
Yo, love the content! I'm starting Alpha 2 on Dec. 20 and I'm thinking about streaming and making videos at some point. Do we have to get permission in order to show video content of the Alpha phase?
@originality9273Ай бұрын
On week 1 of launch on A2 I went ranger, and I have to say they are fantastic at solo content, unless you fight direct impact spell casters or other rangers, because you can kite extremely well from early on, it was a super engaging playstyle, and from PvP perspective from a low level they drop utter bombs of burst, which is pretty much the only way to kill any class with heals, catching players unawares is key as one. The utility you bring to the group as a ranger once you get upto around level 10, is AoE Root CC which is perfect for setting up wizards and fighters AoE, also easily stacking bleed build up or wound if required as you are really good at maintaining stacks of debuffs for teams. I think the true power of the ranger will be seen in castle sieges on defence, as it will be really difficult to survive multiple snipes into headshot combo's so I'll look forward to that, the burst profile on ranger is great and I think that's where the builds will start to diversify on gearing and balancing come the later updates. I think come December 20th I'll be looking towards playing something else if I find a guild or people to play with regularly, but tanks are definitely not needed nor are clerics for "grind team" but they do make them far more efficient for the group as a whole but double bards are insanely useful, they feel like Aug evokers in retail you don't notice them when you have them but you sure as shit notice when they are gone after playing with them for a few hours!
@Kheiltar2 ай бұрын
Really nice educational video, fast, packed with information and very clear to understand. Nice!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Lots more to come! Anything specific you'd like to see?
@willSolos2 ай бұрын
@@GrappLrjust like how you did for classes but for weapons
@jonathanhughes8679Ай бұрын
Bard is the Buff class. I was truly hoping that every character would had big changes to the class. Something like a bamu vision was a clave that enhanced his shield e mage he could put Phoenix fire on weapons. Place ice on your shield to raise it armor with a small ice damage. Maybe reactive armor. I don’t really like having just one spec of ,each class. Summon the same mobs,. I was hoping for Druids, paladin , mage, buffs seem. Limit classes. And a bunch that augment , or CC much.
@ojamrin64292 ай бұрын
Great vid as always! Can I use a sword or spear as a bard?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Actually, in one of the iterations, spear+bow was the meta for Bard! Then again, spear+bow was meta for literally every class HAHA. What would you pair the spear or sword with?
@ojamrin64292 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr nice! But I mean the skills are not based on weapons, right?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
@@ojamrin6429 No, skills are based on skillpoints you use in your tree. Weapons give some small passives, and effect your autoattacks.
@blackfalcon1324Ай бұрын
My big question is what class do you think will be most in demand? For me, coming from classic wow, I like picking classes that are in short supply so you can get those raid slots. I am gathering that mage wont be that class. Super powerful, but basically everyone plays it.
@GrappLrАй бұрын
Bard will have a very easy time finding groups, and you want 2 per group. Fewer people will play tanks, and every group wants 1 tank, but they don't usually want more than 1. Clerics it's great to have 2 in a party (one cleric can ressurect the other), so that's valid as well.
@adehed16 күн бұрын
Nice breakdown. thanks for these opinions. Does make it about 50% easier to pick a main after next week's wipe, but still 50% unsure :D
@GrappLr16 күн бұрын
Don’t forget that Rogue is coming out probably January!
@yaitari2 ай бұрын
wow these videos are starting to come out for this game? that's funny
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
I mean, I've been playing it for last 2 months, NDA drops, perfect time to make vids!
@JFrombaugh2 ай бұрын
I think I will probably go Spellhunter once the secondary archetype system is implemented. All the cool flashy elemental powers of Mage, plus the added nature flavor of Ranger!
@duyanhtran40492 ай бұрын
I will support you all the even not LoR anymore. Please do more MMORPG content bro.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
I can't make any promises, as we haven't had a good feel for Ashes yet. But if it's a great game, I'll make more content! What other MMORPGs are you thinking of?
@gonewiththesomething2 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr how about a look at BDO for the combat?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
@@gonewiththesomething I'm more interested in new upcoming games, than established ones. Kinda hard to grow on a game that has been out forever unfortunately.
@pierreberges50262 ай бұрын
What is the summoner thing on the class display in the website ?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
It's a class that's not out yet, and it will be a while until we see it. Summoner and Rogue will be out later.
@pierreberges50262 ай бұрын
@@GrappLraight ty
@Hostobi2 ай бұрын
we don't have warlock fantasy, which is just dark mage or evil mage i guess
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
This is not entirely true. Did you know that Mage primary class, + Summoner secondary class is literally called "Warlock"? Also, Summoner + Rogue secondary is called "shadowmancer". One of these two might very well be what you're looking for! Secondary classes won't be out for a while, but they'll arrive eventually! Does this excite you a bit more?
@rolandsalzmann6158Ай бұрын
Is your 8man group pvp a DAoC reference?
@GrappLrАй бұрын
No, personally never played DAoC
@jawelNeezeker9 күн бұрын
really curious what second classes will bring
@GrappLr8 күн бұрын
We'll find out Phase 3 in May
@Strechu2 ай бұрын
I have plan of Self healing DPS Mage with connection to cleric or same thing but the other way as a way to try and solo majoirty of the game content. Kind of 1 many army thing.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Cleric and Bard are already quite good at soloing content due to self sustain. Mage has the big barrier which does this well too, although CD is kinda high on Barrier. But yeah, as cleric secondary class, maybe very viable!
@AKARazorbackАй бұрын
I saw Esfand play what seemed a dps Cleric, 2h wielding Cleric, much like a retribution Paladin... looked cool. Viable?
@mr.mayhem88Ай бұрын
I've done this build with great apellsword and spellbow. Very good in pve. Have not tested this build in pvp though.
@bkbstone2 ай бұрын
Good info, music too loud.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Noted, will lower volume next time
@fronk_alt2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about the music choice in the video. It sounda line your holding an inspirational speech, lol
@HolgerLovesMusic2 ай бұрын
Welcome to Ashes, you must be new here.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Was the Ashes theme, but I get the sentiment behind the comment. Any music recommendation you'd like to see?
@fronk_alt2 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr Maybe something like Winds of Brightwood from New World. Got that fantasy vibe but sounds more adventerous :D
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
@@fronk_altthanks. I’ll check it out
@BW1992 ай бұрын
@GrappLr play whatever music you want to play mate. It's your video.
@carteks12 ай бұрын
Don’t people have like 10 years to pick a class?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Yes, although because of how long it takes to level and get a feel for them, it's nice sometimes to know what you're getting yourself into. Can take a good 20+ hours just to hit level 15... only to find out you're not happy?
@gojira9487Ай бұрын
Hi, do we have infos about summoners and rogues ? (guess they're not in yet)
@GrappLrАй бұрын
Rogue some time after December, probably early January. Summoner some time after May.
@gojira9487Ай бұрын
I see, thank you! And what about second classes augments, ive read there were few lvl 25 players, im curious to see how 'unique' classes combos can make a character from another
@paddygoespro9 күн бұрын
Can't wait to get my hands on this game 😮💨
@eno15852 ай бұрын
What about the second class choix that makes the game have effectively 64 classes
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
This is coming much later into the game. Probably not for another year+. But when it comes, I'll make guides for it, no worries.
@M5Coal19 күн бұрын
So there’s no rouge class ?
@GrappLr19 күн бұрын
Probably January we will see rogue
@seussiii2 ай бұрын
I really like that they are pushing people to socialize more. Also that not every class has healing.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
It is a nice breath of fresh air! Although I'd also personally like solo leveling to be somewhat viable. Can be slower, just not a drag.
@seussiii2 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr 100% agree. I do worry that if leveling is TOO group dependant that it will be tough for newcomers once the majority are at end game.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
@@seussiii I'm sure they will improve questing XP eventually. Alpha 2 is super raw atm, with lots of things that need improvement.
@ugurbabacan40682 ай бұрын
Please put game options to "Disable Fuckn Antialiasing option"
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
There are a ton of options they need to add. Steven has often said that almost all customizing options people want will be added. I’m sure it’s a matter of time.
@marcusolsson21262 ай бұрын
No rogue like class?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Rogue is expected to come out some time after December.
@ThaNoizy2 ай бұрын
A one shot is not the same as killing someone with a combination of skills.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
That's a little nit-picky. But yeah, I could have used better wording.
@hriata1682 ай бұрын
Disagree, a combo kill is oneshot as long as it's in one instance
@gotenks5633Ай бұрын
You cant pick a wrong class in an alpha lol, we have over a year to trial and error all of them lol
@myaps18592 ай бұрын
Tulnar Shadowmancer/Necromancer..... ahhhh not available for this phase T_T
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
But it’ll be there soon hopefully!
@myaps18592 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr I assume you'll be playing as Dwarf Ranger?
@cc66bb44Ай бұрын
How is bard/fighter?
@GrappLrАй бұрын
Every class feels really good.
@cc66bb44Ай бұрын
@GrappLr I mean the combination of the 2
@ThePlintoАй бұрын
Good thing is that I'll start 20th of December and straight up going to pick ROGUE
@GrappLrАй бұрын
I hear there is a wipe on the 20th. But rogue will probably not be out day 1, but a little into phase 2
@ThePlintoАй бұрын
@@GrappLr We'll see :P
@yanna44732 ай бұрын
release date ?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Well over 2+ years to go I’d say
@areki38522 ай бұрын
A video that doesn't "reveal" that AoC is not finished? How did that ever happen?
@danialmoser25732 ай бұрын
You would have to be a hermit to not know its not finished. Pointless statement by you. IJS
@acehypzei2 ай бұрын
You’re a fun guy.. huh?
@danialmoser25732 ай бұрын
@@acehypzei if I missed your sarcasm, my apologies.
@acehypzei2 ай бұрын
@@danialmoser2573 was meant for the guy u replied to not you sorry if I clicked your name
@danialmoser25732 ай бұрын
@@acehypzei all good. No doubt, you were spot on with that comment.
@theclimbto12 ай бұрын
"Do not pick the WRONG Class!" Ahem... TANK. Booya, baby!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Thankfully for you, Tank is the only starting archtype that is a proper "Tank". Once Summoner is out though, it could be a viable tank as well, from what we've heard.
@theclimbto12 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr First time playing yesterday in the Early Access for the Alpha 2, or what ever it was. :D 1 PM today and we do it again. Might do a 2nd Character though, you got me interested in Bard and Mage. Of course my heart belongs to the Rogue... and sadly, Rogue does not exist yet.
@shivasdreaming-si7tu2 ай бұрын
Classes aren't in until phase 3 🤭 But yes I think bard is the most solid archetype right now, because it's the most fleshed out. I agree with your assesnent overall.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
True, true. I always say class vs archetype, as "classes" are not in game yet. Once classes are in, I guess I'll fix that vocabulary error. But for now, I think most people use the term interchangeably.
@treefrog93922 ай бұрын
Super sick vid!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Appreciate it tree!
@hriata1682 ай бұрын
The bard just look reallly cool unlike those guitar strumming dumbos we see elsewhere
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Bard is pretty cool indeed.
@5H4D32 ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for Rogue reveal since that's gonna be my main, Bard is definitely my second.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Same here, Although I'm pretty inbetween Rogue and Ranger. One of the two though!
@elsanchaez93142 ай бұрын
Great video, excited for what comes next!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Got a lot more coming! Anything specific you'd like to see?
@zombi3H3art28 күн бұрын
@grapplr #grapplr your music comes through a little too loud over your voice. I cant understand some words because of background audio at times. great video and explanation to hear someone summarize
@GrappLr28 күн бұрын
I'll make sure to fix that in the next video!
@BXEmberz01092 ай бұрын
Fighter definitely the class for me! I spent a lot of the time in Pre-Alpha 2 just lvling and pvping and i can safely say that Fighters are terrifying up close and personal, heavy hitters for sure. I was in the low lvl Grem area just trying to keep the peace from the high lvl players griefing low lvl players and i killed most of them in 2-3 hits. But there was one Ranger player who had so many snares it was almost impossible to catch them so yeah kiting a fighter is definitely our biggest weakness.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Haha, yup, that's exactly how I see Fighter as well. They hit damn hard if you let them get close!
@jojojames2172 ай бұрын
Bard is the Meta Class. Don’t play ranger as it’s under-tuned and does no dmg. I won’t play bard since I don’t feel like prancing around and blowing my teammates flutes for buffs 🧐🤨. Will probally make a mage..
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Have you gotten a good bow and some nice gear for ranger? They hit very hard once geared up. Rangers are only ZDPS for the early levels. Remember also that Ranger damage scales off secondary weapon as well. So get a good blue or better Greatsword, and it'll double your DPS.
@jojojames2172 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr maybe that’s why fam. I’m gonna train more during the testing phase
@LivingFlamePVP2 ай бұрын
solid video!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Thanks Living
@danield-h1j2 ай бұрын
ugh I just want to play them all now
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Ideally pick one lol… progress takes a long time for one character… can’t imagine ults
@ooainaughtАй бұрын
Mmm dual mage madness!
@BOOMDIGGER2 ай бұрын
The Music is too loud, louder than you even
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Yes, I think we made it better in the second video. Thanks.
@samblanton90102 ай бұрын
Nice video! I’m also looking to play Ranger, seems like a fun playstyle.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Lots more content coming about ranger!
@NyiermАй бұрын
Nice video, even nicer hairline.
@chukky11242 күн бұрын
alright lets see, 20 years of tanking in wow, so this time i will go.... Tank or cleric and change to healer for once xD
@GrappLr2 күн бұрын
Well, you're probably learning the best classes, as those will be the first to get their augmented archtypes (Tank and Cleric).
@Shy-kthxbai2 ай бұрын
Bard.
@StepCrowАй бұрын
I’ll be joining the alpha this Friday. It’s such a hard decision between Mage and Ranger for me 🫤.
@GrappLrАй бұрын
One thing you can do is just ask yourself "what do I prefer, bows or wands". I think that'll give you the right answer 90% of the time.
@StepCrowАй бұрын
@@GrappLr True, that does make me lean toward mage. But the mobility looks so fun on ranger as well. I also like the idea of burst damage opposed to sustain. The camo also looks suuuuper sweet for ranger.
@PivotG2 ай бұрын
Nice vid, is it known when we will be able to play this game?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Alpha 2 starts in 2 days. As for full release, still a way off.
@PharaYami2 ай бұрын
You da goat mane! Also do we know if this alpha will be continuous as said in the past or did that change? I’m not up to date on the game
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
I suspect they’ll try to avoid wipes, but it’s hard to know, especially if some game breaking bugs or exploits happen.
@PharaYami2 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr Very true, here’s to hoping it can be a smooth-ish experience at the very least
@wznzgq13542 ай бұрын
is that real hairline?
@Fer-no1te2 ай бұрын
wig
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Some say it's a wig.
@ElfTaleFilms2 ай бұрын
Bardadin
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
I'm going Ranger though :)
@joaofernandes94582 ай бұрын
good vid thx
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Obrigado Joao!
@artharionsanchez17932 ай бұрын
When it comes to single-target DPS, which one does more? Fighter, Ranger or Mage?
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
It's hard to say, because there's burst, there's sustained dps, etc. Mage has ridiculous sustained DPS. Fighter can something one shot you in a single combo. Ranger has very good burst, ESPECIALLY against targets under 50% hp.
@artharionsanchez17932 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr I ask because I've seen comments from people saying that DPS from Hunter is low.
@artharionsanchez17932 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr 3 options are good then? My greatest fear is to invest a lot of time in leveling a class and then do kill anyone in PvP...
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
@@artharionsanchez1793 You have to consider that they'll probably do a lot of balancing also in the next few months, so what is strong now might be weaker, etc. Just go with whichever looks most fun. All 3 are viable at the moment.
@zRidZz2 күн бұрын
Never decide a class based off what's strong now, You will be in a endless loop of suboptimal damage from playing things you might not understand or having to change archetypes from FOTM/Every tuning patch. Just go with the fantasy or playstyle that best suites your own and if you decide its boring go for something else. Is the best way to learn and be on the higher end of the meters
@gonewiththesomething2 ай бұрын
Excited for A2 been following this game for years and excited to get in there and, hopefully, help shape things a little
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Same here friend! What are you looking forward to the most?
@gonewiththesomething2 ай бұрын
@@GrappLr right now, the feel of the combat and the node growth systems. I'm going fighter, cleric, and tank so I am hoping to get an understanding of where they want to take the base class feel before we get into archetypes!
@plannindorf2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Bard ascendancy!
@Gamer4Lyfe19892 ай бұрын
Cleric Main incoming!! Nice video mate, bring on A2 HYPEEEEEE!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
You'll be very happy, clerics are very strong!
@CoozaFPS2 ай бұрын
again another great video thanks for the very informative information thanks for helping me pick bard. Look forward to more of your content
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Enjoy yourself!
@NikuaRangerАй бұрын
Rogue :'(
@GrappLrАй бұрын
They’ll release rogue soon! Probably late December/early January
@RedXWerewolf2 ай бұрын
the worst part about all this, is I and many others are here to main Summoner and that is the last thing they are adding into the game... Why did they have to start with the standard boring classes you can find in every other mmo out there?
@shivasdreaming-si7tu2 ай бұрын
Last but not least: Tank.... Think you forgot one 😮 Edit: I stand corrected.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Gottem! Haha, yeah, this was done without a script on stream, so ordering might not have been perfect!
@AssesinsToast2 ай бұрын
Tank Wall was bugged and did nothing last week, other than that, geat summary!
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
This is true, although I was trying to cover the classes "assuming" their skills were working as intended. Good to point this out though
@4gottenMyth2 ай бұрын
Sponsored by BARD! JK JK. Really good info. Nice work
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Kekw
@Arberin2 ай бұрын
Looks like another WoW clone than will be forgotten in a year
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Dead before release? Hopefully not…
@StepCrowАй бұрын
I hope not. WoW just isn’t fun anymore, and I want more motivation than what GW2 gives me. Ashes plsssss
@rooster10122 ай бұрын
Don't pick the wrong class? Dude you're there to test the game not play it, all classes need to be tested.
@GrappLr2 ай бұрын
Certain people like certain classes. It's not crazy to want to have an idea what you're getting yourself into, before putting 50+ hours into leveling. Every class is pretty great, so there will be no lack of representation amongst them I'm sure.
@HazePyro4 күн бұрын
Didn’t need gay music
@yusta54612 ай бұрын
100$ a month for an unfinished game?? bruhh how... what's going to be when it's full release?
@JonpaulGee2 ай бұрын
Its mostly for content creators or people in the industry. Its a true Alpha with an NDA and everything. It is to have more feedback by more people than just the people working on it.
@Ashton9512 ай бұрын
It’s not a month. It’s a one time fee
@mikoyb.12912 ай бұрын
Ashes of creation's payment model is 15$ a month/subscription fee and NOT 100$ a month. The upcoming TESTS has 3 Phases. Phase 1 this Oct. 25, Phase 2 on Dec. and Phase 3 on May 2025. And that 100$ one is the THIRD WAVE BUNDLE to Access to future Alpha Two test phase, starting Thursday, May 1, 2025, continuing to subsequent test phases. Access to future Beta One test phase, Access to future Beta Two test phase, 1 month of game time ($15 Value)
@Dustygoodz2 ай бұрын
free 2 download but 15$/month sub... right now its 100$ for phase 3 of alpha 2
@shivasdreaming-si7tu2 ай бұрын
Not per Month. This is pretty normal for indie studios with no publisher.