DON'T PLANT THESE FRUIT TREES!!! (7 Reasons)

[@ilikeguavaalot111]

Reason 8 - tree looks too weak in the pot. Reason 9 - tree needs too much care and does not fit the climate too well.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Great ones.

[@allthingsmaloney5634]

this guys tone when speaking is 10/10. Very engaging!

[@catherinepigeron6664]

I love your conviction and enthusiasm. Thank you for sharing energy and humour.

[@jimovergaard1254]

#1, I like to collect the extra fruit and give them as well as extra vegetables to those in need. Watching you, it is a skill that needs to be taught to others for local sustainability. A teacher/mentor is the most important job there is and when the student can do even more, the teacher has done the best of all.

[@RIXRADvidz]

my neighbor had a beautiful balsam fir in his yard, provided privacy for both of us, he took it out because it littered too many needles. he replaced it with a lodge pole pine.......

[@journalsofathirddensitytra3498]

Ill be mindfull of what my next trees should be for decent maintenance. So far empire apples and prune de mirabelle. Im hoping they'll at least produce a bit and be healthy. Im working on turning my 2 acres into a food forest. Gatineau area in quebec

[@pamdoyle4778]

I have been considering will I grow a flowering peach but now I’m not so sure. Love your show. Especially the dandelion one , so many reasons to let them grow. Keep up the good work. Love the show.

[@ParkrosePermaculture]

I absolutely adore my Damson plum. It produces prolifically, but it took years and to get there. It’s on its own rootstock and love the two or three suckers it produces each year so I can share it with friends.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic they can be a great tree especially from seed.

[@cathyklekner7972]

Wow! I just found your videos and I greatly appreciate all your insights and knowledge. Thank you so much!! 👍🥰

[@youngpek]

Stick around , you'll learn so much more. He's a great teacher 👍

[@steveoh9025]

Great place to learn about permaculture orchard techniques!!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Welcome aboard. Enjoy the ride.

[@nickhammersonrocks]

YOU'RE THE BEST DR. SOB !!!!!!!!!! WE LOVE YOUR CHANNEL !!!!!!!!! IT'S THE BEST CANADIAN PERMACULTURE ORCHARD CHANNEL EVER MADE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

No Dr here, I turned down my chance. Thanks for the thumbs up. More to come God willing.

[@zwhirlwhorled7570]

Im going to cut down our plum tree this year, and going to like it. Trying some new things.

[@Mark_Nadams]

I've got five native plum + suckers to take out this year. Here are the reasons: I am not a big fan of the fruit. They produce a ton of fruit but all very small and mostly pit and it all is ripe at once. They are difficult to keep trimmed & pruned. They tend to inwardly cross branch. They have tons of suckers. They are harboring mites that causes long tiny finger like growths on the leaves called spindle galls and in severe cases big puffy petiole galls that form instead of fruit. They have outrageously sharp spikes at the end of the growing year on all the branches. The spikes can tear you up worse than a hawthorn. I brought a 2" diameter branch into work to show a colleague and he thought it was cousin to a medieval mace. I have finally had enough.

[@ruthmore8803]

LOL - the Sucker Cam! I don't even have a garden but I love watching this man talk about plants!!

[@billclinton6040]

About 7 or 8 years ago, I planted a fig tree because I live in a hot climate and knew that my second favorite fruit, cherries, wouldn't do well in my climate. Well, the tree grew quite large, flourished actually, but never really made many figs much to my disappointment. Then this year we had a freak, late, hard freeze, something that hasn't been seen in like 50 years. It really stressed the tree and now it is making more fruit than ever before.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Often a sign that the tree is deathly stressed. Just saying, I’ve seen it many times.

[@jimovergaard1254]

I still like my Rome apples for baking and sour cherries too. Cider trees are extra work but apple butter is great!

[@24revealer]

Hey! I just went through you videos to see of you had any on cherry trees and did not see any. I have a Evans Cherry that is always wormy. I have done lots of reading on what can be done but I find it confusing. Can you make a video?

[@billrichards4024]

Thank you

[@shoor3563]

this guy can run a farmers market out of his garage

[@ShortCrypticTales]

he reminds me of the Scotty Kilmer of fruit trees instead of cars

[@nikkiefreak]

I love you Stefan, I know nothing about plants. But I take your word as gospel.

[@roccoconte2960]

to many pests and diseases , only fruit i can grow is pears and i have a conference pear trees no diseases great video Stefan

[@1gr8lpta]

I really enjoyed this video. I subscribed. Thanks for your hard work. Great job

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Thanks for the sub! enjoy the journey.

[@reinaldoiturrino1853]

Thanks for the info

[@JohnSmith-gy4qj]

Very funny good alternative view. An avocado came came up so I let it grow. But it survived so i decided to feed it green leaf mulch from woodbine tree Plus cow and chicken manure and worms. The next spring it took off like a rocket. It's now 5 meters tall and shades the bedroom BUT 10 years later still no fruit. More leaves but never flowers. Other success a prune plum, yes yummy and delicious. But some other evil beast is watching the tree and sometimes in one night the whole harvest disappears. No traces like birds leave traces. Great presentation. You could do a standup comedy on this theme , think about it, who else does that on YT garden videos.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Great idea. For your avocado you may have fed it too well when young and it’s delaying fruiting. Some take 10-12 years but eventually you will have a monster tree producing a half ton of fruit. Better make sure it has a partner nearby for pollination. See my 4 reasons your fruit tree produces no fruit.

[@NoZenith]

Which one was a tank?

[@riobabic8960]

My Bartlett and Bosc pear trees give me 200 pounds of fruit each every year !

[@HellTriX]

This has conflicted me now. I want to plant 2 fruit trees, but now I don't know which ones I shouldn't plant! I was going to do two same trees for pollination, probably apple or pear, but now i worry about disease.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Just look up disease resistant cultivars of... your preferred fruit. Yes two different cultivars of the same species.

[@MichaelSHartman]

Maybe someday we will learn how some varieties are so disease and pest free, and use genetic engineering to transfer these traits. Something like the cyanide in cherry stones, or bt put in peach seeds to reduce peach weevils. Something for the coddling moth would be great. Corporations are so greedy by claiming so many plant species that they have excluded independent research.

[@3dmotormaker]

This guy looks like Hans fuller from the movie 'the thirteenth floor'...

[@phph1731]

Great video. Very helpful. Thank you. My mother-in-law has just given me 3 fruit tree whips planted in pots. Not great quality and not varieties I would plant. She will expect regular reports. Help! Anybody? What do I do? Here’s a clue: Mother-in-law’s first birthday present to me when I married. A dog. Did I want a dog? BTW I still have a dog 40 years later.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Hahaha. Gotta love them.

[@MsCaterific]

💛

[@zachb.6179]

wait. what do we about the suckers? ...that doesn't leave "nails" poking up in the ground?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Cut them individually or get rid of the tree. We removed a whole row of them.

[@notalltheories]

I won’t plant dwarf fruit trees ever again. No end of problems with the ones that survive and too many that the root stock takes over and I’m left with a nothing tree where I should have had a good crop. Also I need my trees to pull double duty and give me some shade!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Good observation.

[@papabear149]

Lawn mower takes care of suckers lol

[@lesliejacobs1439]

Not in your raised beds 10 feet away.

[@papabear149]

@@lesliejacobs1439 raise them higher and fill the bottom with gravel

[@catherineayotte6748]

Share if you got to much!

[@laurensimonelli5654]

He could solve all his problems just by running goats through during the growing months to keep the lower hanging branches pruned off the ground and running swine through during the fruiting season to pick up the bad fruit.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

That’s an option, have you ever had goats around fruit trees?

[@lemonlover6559]

Sooo, Damson plums and Conference pair , that's what I got from this.

[@RJSoftware2000]

What I didn't know was grubs where eating my tree roots. So I learn that all my other thoughts wrong. Next...

[@donnariggs1567]

can you come to my house please....so knowledgeable ...

[@Ms.Byrd68]

Your not saying WHICH fruit trees have those problems...

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Damson plum and conference pear.

[@lesliejacobs1439]

Reason not to plant certain plum trees...the 1-2 inch thorns!

[@tyover6172]

He didn't list any of the trees when referring to the trees

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Damson plum and conference pear.

[@cristinagusatu6323]

My mom has over 300 fruit trees

[@c.b.-11]

I planted 1 cherry tree and now I have a hundred. Birds Birds Birds

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Birds and Squirrels, nature's little planters.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I love it.

[@c.b.-11]

@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy yes squirrels too

[@benlamia4028]

Why to have a perfect fruit bugs are normal in nature they eat with us why to complicite things its natural

[@downshift4life]

Why not plant a delicious variety even though it's susceptible to diseases? It's not like it's morally wrong or something, is it?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Not at all, it may just need more babying and pampering.

[@SireSquish]

Rev up your fruit trees. VRRRRRMm... Oh wait. Yeah I get a Scotty vibe from this fellow (and that's not necessarily a bad thing).

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Beam me up!

[@christophergruenwald5054]

What kind of virus did that tree have?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Plum pox virus.

[@christophergruenwald5054]

@@StefanSobkowiak my neighbor had a similar thing happen to their pear tree last year. Can that virus affect other trees like pears, apples and peaches and how does it spread? I have a bunch of young fruit trees in my yard.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

It’s specific to some plums

[@user-ef8up7dq7y]

I want to know why your fruit trees look like a jungle over there

[@StefanSobkowiak]

It’s a mix of trees in trios.

[@douglassmith6448]

Ho cares man

[@ryukenshin55]

You're a handsome man who has won my heart with you enthusiasm. I look forward to when I retire and have some land to grow things as you do.

[@Scott-zb6eo]

Don't wait, plan now, and get working towards the goal. We got our land last summer, but I've had shrubs in pots lying in wait for 2 years, and have my first set of trees coming Friday. Merci Stefan, you have been an inspiration.

[@ellieban]

I love this channel. I never come here without learning something and being entertained. Brilliant.

[@michealdean3750]

Don't get suckered into it...I'm laughing my ass off here!

[@renatara9026]

I wish you would add names of trees you have mentioned in writing. Also please give more examples of trees which we should not plant because of the problems you have talked about. For example, which trees tend to get viruses, too many insect problems etc. Thank you.

[@notalltheories]

Unfortunately that kind of thing is incredibly subjective and depends on where you live. I would maybe check your local extension or ask a local farmer to see if they have any information on good varieties for your area.

[@joggabonkers6380]

Damson plums and hybrids (small blue plums) is a nuisance. I planted 2 varieties, and they get EVERYTHING.

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Love the haircut. It suits you. I wasted time on Macintosh apple tree because I love the apples but they are terrribly plagued by disease, as you have said in the past.

[@modarkthemauler]

The large amount of sucker might also be a good thing if you want a faturally forming and growing fruit grove, but you also need a lot of room for that. I have a cherry just for that purpose. It's a hedge that slowly but surely becomes thicker and wider. It'll be beatiful in 10 years when the whole thing flowers as a massive hedge.

[@johnslugger]

The DAY before harvest 1,000,000 sparrows show up and eat every peach in my ORCHARD! I let all 600 trees die. With the water I now save I can buy 6000 Peaches!

[@chriswalford4161]

Just this spring I’ve planted (southern U.K.) my 3 first-ever fruit trees: Braeburn and Egremont Russet apples, and a damson.

[@rare1walking]

Southern Oregon here. My 3 yr. old Bartlett Pear blossomed out. Then the whole tree died. WtH? My favorite is the Red Haven Peach. I used to have to take all the leaf curl leaves off for it to survive, and the huge crop would come on. TG. It is the sweetest, most juicy peach ever. Freestone. Like eating liquid sunshine. This year...no Leaf curl. After 3 miserable years. Was it the 4-10-10 bulb food I put on the Crocus beneath it, the manure that tucked it in for Winter, or the egg shells to give it calcium? And I just learned if you have aphids and white flies on your trees and bushes, you have too much Nitrogen. P and K to balance. With heavy Chemtrailing, who knows what's up.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Liquid sunshine, love it. Curl as a fungal disease is more prevalent in wetter years, especially the conditions in spring. Keep on experimenting.

[@ponolovefarms3926]

Favorite fruit tree so far is my veterans peach. Hoping it fruits for the first time this year. It’s loaded with baby peaches. Grants Pass it’s the climate baby!

[@beebob1279]

Nice job taking care of the issues. I keep bees at farms that just spray, spray, spray. They have to in order to stay in business. However, your chemtrail comment is stretching it a bit. Only a theory and not proven.

[@rare1walking]

@@beebob1279 What is a theory? We get a lot of them. Some take the results to the lab. Not good for man or beast, aquifers or insects.

[@afriendtoo6971]

Brown rot getting most of my peaches unless I pick them early..

[@comesahorseman]

You just never know, though. Had one Bartlett pear tree on a farm in central N.H., supposed to be too tender for the winters there, fully exposed to the North wind. It produced good quality fruit every year. 😄

[@StefanSobkowiak]

You're right, you never know. Nature always wants to show you exceptions.

[@IrieB303]

603. Wolfeboro.

[@comesahorseman]

@@IrieB303 Concord. Merrimack River Valley.

[@IrieB303]

@@comesahorseman I was born in Concord.

[@kokadjooutdoors620]

Have some bartlets in maine and they do well along with kieffer and moon glow

[@lionesskiara]

my plum trees drive me nuts every year with the sucker issues ....

[@amyblueskyirl16]

Inherited some old plums doing this. Do I cut down the suckers or dig them up and replant? Do they affect fruit production?

[@src4409]

Not sure how it affects fruit trees, but someone told me they put 1 drop off brush killer on suckers that pop up at the base of crepe myrtles to keep them from growing and it works for them.

[@PShawtx]

In summary. Research and find fruit trees that will do good in the area you live in.

[@MyChilepepper]

Our beautiful fruiting fuyu persimmon tree destroyed by raccoons, possums and squirrels. They invited gangs over every night for sleep overs 😢

[@davehendricks4824]

I got a goji berry. Now it’s suckered all over. And, the strain I got produces thousands of flowers and only few fruits.🥴

[@doctorgoody72]

I understand that the leaves are edible. My chooks keep on grazing on my small goji berry plants before they can become established

[@davehendricks4824]

@@doctorgoody72 send them my way!

[@tomsayer9460]

Thx 4 the vid the virus thing was new to me thank you very much

[@marjoram906]

I love this energy

[@Allasomorph]

Merci! Love the sucker cam 😂

[@thomasonmike7170]

Hi pretty lady. How are you doing today? And how is the weather over there and that of your family??

[@BrokeFarmer]

Love fruit trees, so glad I found your channel

[@fainitesbarley2245]

Conference does very well in the U.K. luckily. Shame about the fireblight

[@RaveBabyFuu]

I always love your videos. I was thinking of planting some fruit trees, but i live in arizona where the ground is mostly clay. WHAT DO I DO?

[@KleineJoop]

Just an idea: Dig big, deep and wide holes and fill them with soil and/or compost, and plant the trees in there?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Check out Brad Lancaster’s channel he lives and is transforming Tucson with his desert strategies. Very simple but effective strategies.

[@TheRealHonestInquiry]

Gypsum and lots of organic matter. Clay is great, it usually has a good amount of nutrients and excellent water holding capacity, but poor air holding capacity. So breaking it up with the Gypsum and adding lots of air pockets with the organic matter will balance it out. Compost, Leaves, mulch with woodchips, etc.

[@spark-sx8786]

Where I live we have a large problem with the collapse of insect populations. It's dramatic and sad, so we're trying all we can not to hurt them and to actually let them prosper. I like the strategy of planting disease- or insect-resistant varieties, for preventing worms for example. But human tech to scale insect-trappings? I think we need to be sparse with those. Any natural enemy tips to prevent worms? Like: which birds would eat those worms for example? Love the energy, thanks for the info! I would like to hear more about using nature to solve problems for use, make mixed ecosystems, while planting strong competition for those other natural forces that are out there.

[@susangieseking1547]

Planted a peach near my front door. Not smart 😕

[@daltondammthebabe]

Hey make a series on weeds that are actually quite favorable to have pleashe kind sir

[@FruttetoFarms]

Do you have any videos that discuss the spacing in your orchard and the reasoning behind that spacing? Plant to plant and row to row spacing? Also, appears you have mostly semi-dwarf style trees? Do you have a preference of dwarf vs semi-dwarf if you were to do it all again from scratch? Love the channel. Keep up the great videos!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Thanks. Not just on that topic. I discussed spacing in the design of seeded orchard. I use dwarf, semi dwarf and standard.

[@jessalynncarnes5489]

I heard you can plant Amaranth Grain under fruit trees as an insect "trap". They choose to attack the Amaranth instead of the tree. So it's a perfect companion plant to fruit trees. I'm trying that this year.

[@CanadianPermacultureLegacy]

Sucker cam. LOL the editing was fantastic.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes it is.

[@showkatjami7445]

nice, new things learn.

[@toothaching]

,,,I would love to have the space for sifty apple trees ... :)

[@StefanSobkowiak]

🤣

[@karenbearden6198]

Thanks for the info!

[@mattpinder2656]

Stefan we love your channel. Our food forest is going great it’s on its 4th year. Adding to it each year we look at what’s going good and plant more of that. We’re in CA 1800 ft. In zone 8b. Kinda red clay soil and fruit trees, berries and grapes do great here. Berries are favorite. I have currants, gooseberry, goji, black, rasp, blue, honeyberrys, autumn olive, sea berry, loganberry, bayberry, hawthorn, even Chilean myrtle, service berry. It’s a joy to go out with the kids and pick. Thanks for the years of content we are tending our plot and grateful for teachers like you. ✌️✌️

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic so glad you got started. The exciting ups and downs will grow with time. Enjoy them both. Sounds like grapes and berries are ‘weeds’, grow more of them.

[@mattpinder2656]

Yessss weeds they are! We are propagating them and dividing them. Thanks again brotha! ✌️✌️

[@sharonturner5896]

Thanks, always enjoyable 😄

[@ronw484]

I had Japanese plums that I really liked along with a peach tree and a nectarine tree. All of them eventually got infected with something that produced gnarled black lumps on the branches and trunks and the fruit would get a brownish colored mold(?) on the fruit that ruined them. I tried everything to cure the problem but nothing seemed to work. It just became too much expense to keep trying to treat the trees. Plus, when I actually had a chance to get fruit off the trees, I'd usually lose out to the squirrels and raccoons who'd strip a tree in one raid. The only trees I don't have trouble with in terms of disease are Japanese pears and certain types of Japanese persimmons.

[@Failedmusician]

what you described is usually called Canker or black knot. Its the bane of my existence because one of my most favorite peach tree (Sincerest) and Plum (Methley) are both very susceptible to canker and yes there is no cure for canker :(.

[@fourdayhomestead2839]

I have a wild plum patch spreading around my well & frost free hydrant. It's so thick & full of thorns! Very dry clay soil.

[@julieabdullah1378]

I love the trees that produce a billion suckers. I sell them on Etsy:)

[@lagoya]

The problem is the solution! Brilliant 😁

[@julieabdullah1378]

The obstacle is the way:)

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes that’s one way to look at it but please at least let people know that they sucker profusely.

[@billastell3753]

Suckers are off the root stock and likely won't produce fruit. You may be ripping off the folks who buy your 'suckers'. That makes them suckers.

[@veela420]

Hello Stefan, awesome as usual. Would you say those suckers will become vital trees, i did save some from a dying plum tree last year and those rooted and survived the winter. Are those suckers coming off of the ground better than those that grow on a tree? thanks and keep it up. Greetings from central Europe.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Coming off the ground can give more trees (if healthy) those coming off the tree are tree suckers you can remove.

[@veela420]

@@StefanSobkowiak thanks Stefan!

[@gabrielblais3114]

Bonjour Stephan, comptez-vous retirer le pailli de plastique dans vos plantations agroforestières avant que la végétation le recouvre presque complètement et que vous vous retrouvez pris avec de manière quasi permanente? Je pose la question, car on a déjà fait cette erreur sur nos plantations à la ferme, c'est pourquoi nous utilisons plus de paillis en plastiques dans nos plantations agroforestières. Ça pourrait peut-être faire un bon sujet de vidéo! Bien cordialement.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Bon sujet absolument. On passe les poules dans les allées au moins au 4 ans. Elles adorent gratter tout ce qui est sur le plastique car les insectes sont juste sous ce paillis. Effectivement après 10 ans certains endroits accumulés de matière.

[@dannyb3663]

Talking of taste, I've found that good cooking apple trees are getting really rare. Its sad. Everyone seems to want eating apples these days. But I adore the sour cooking apples.

[@joannemcgough5469]

Oh nooo... I think I have one of those pear trees! EEEKK! P.s. nice hair cut. Looks great!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes winter to summer hair.

[@frankdavidson9675]

i guess he dont spray for all those bugs ------they can be controlled

[@0michelleki020]

Walnut, the outer shell of the nut and leaves make a mess in late autumn, the squirrels also throw the nutshell at people.

[@FuzzyGecko]

Trying to get some apples to grow from seed but they all get fire rot and die a few months later T.T

[@kumipermaecovillageghana]

Good video. I love it

[@melsolomon8256]

I love seeing your Chanal pop up on my playlist. I want an orchard like yours when I grow up. We have 20 trees know need more

[@StefanSobkowiak]

That’s a goal. Give yourself an age (when I grow up) or you’ll just keep putting it off.

[@sislertx]

I fot five fruit tree who dont bear after 5 years..one more year and they are done...i bought at local nursery who said they would...

[@StefanSobkowiak]

If they are getting enough ie at LEAST 8 hours of sun, then give them another 2 years, some take 8 years.

[@journalsofathirddensitytra3498]

Wow thank you so much! Tres apprecier!!!

[@SuperSpidey313]

This man screams "Canadian" and I love it

[@nomargat77]

Wish I knew how to top work my Pineapple Pleasure mango tree, it grows beautifully and flowers profusely but never gave me any fruit. My other mango trees have though, Mahachanok, Carrie, Lemon Zest, and Pickering.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Oh make me drool with your mangos. Look at my overgrafting videos. Same idea for topworking.

[@nomargat77]

@@StefanSobkowiak Yeah mangos are my favorite fruits. :) I'll look up your video on grafting and give it a try.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

My favourite also, maybe one day I’ll buy a farm down south so I can grow mangos.

[@delmarrey9077]

Fruit flies everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!

[@nickkitchener6155]

If a fruit tree is producing a ton of suckers, do you think it might be trying to tell you it would rather be a hedge? I mean, do you think that variety might be a good hedgerow candidate?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Certainly as long as you can mow both sides of the hedge.

[@dawnhughes9942]

Good point. It often means they are improperly planted, have root collar damange or are experiencing some sort of root stress.

[@huzbum]

What I don't understand is if you know your tree has a virus and won't produce good fruit, why don't you remove the tree? Won't letting it grow spread the virus more?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

It can if others are susceptible to it. I want disease, viruses and insects in the orchard to weed out the trees that are not well adapted, leaving easy trees. We removed a whole row of these virus infected plums and left one.