Donahue (part 2 of 5) - River Phoenix, Lisa Bonet, Raul Julia, John Robbins

An episode of the Phil Donahue Show from 1990. The panel: River Phoenix, Lisa Bonet, Raul Julia, John Robbins discuss vegetarianism, veganism, environmentalism, vaccinations, breast-feeding, ecology, rain forests, health, well-being, activism, Diet for a New America, etc.

[@Thyalwaysseek]

This was when talk shows actually had some substance.

[@ffm595]

There's still plenty of talk shows out there like this, you've just gotta look beyond the mainstream and superficial shows

[@kell9737]

@@ffm595 no.

[@ffm595]

@@kell9737 I can't speak for American TV, but here in Australia we have various talk shows that are very profound & thought provoking, they just don't get much attention from the commercial channels. There's still people out there that appreciate intellect!

[@kell9737]

@@ffm595 Yes I agree there are great talk shows abroad just not here in America.

[@Kickinthescience]

@@kell9737 so you listened to every talk show in America?

[@julyflame8690]

lol kinda loved hearing Riv mention the hormonal imbalances in women that come with the pill, surprised he was aware of that

[@wavxvxbes3957]

Crazy how things years ago still apply today. Just shows the lack of change

[@azaka3720]

River was very very intelligent and way ahead of his time.

[@LunaLu-00]

I was so impressed to hear him say this and this was in the 80s and he was a teenager and its 2021 and I didn't do research just used common sense to get to these conclusions (but I am old, and wasn't smart like he was when i was that young!) But every time i mention something like this to somebody people are looking at me like i am nuts and its been over 30 years since this show!! Gosh!!! Its scary the level of ignorance and non-awarness

[@jadorenatural]

Aww River. It's weird because I wasn't even born when he was alive but i still miss him.

[@marcelmelendez5265]

Amara Same here

[@iyanavillavicencio2475]

Amara Same

[@darkman4747]

You don't miss him,you Just find him attractive

[@kerrxitan2560]

Sameeee

[@dianesoper708]

I am wondering if his death was helped along for speaking out, like a lot of them.

[@n.fer.2596]

When River said that there is hope it really got to me. I lost hope in humanity tonight for a few hours and then I found once again through gary youroufsky and this five part video. im crying now because I felt river with me when he said those words. There is hope.

[@jessslegr6703]

Same!

[@smokeaftrspr]

same!

[@logicpolice2451]

River was usually quiet. Not insecure, but reserved. He spoke when asked. It's amazing to see him full of passion and speaking from the heart 0:18

[@kennedythreatt4673]

rivers face when the caller talked about appearance🥺 he looked so sad/ disappointed that just shattered my heart🥺🥺

[@jasonbingle5363]

The lady is obviously nuts. She cares more about appearances than the actual substance of the words River & Lisa were saying.

[@GjpgrD]

It makes me so sad that Raul & River, both brilliant actors with caring hearts & inquisitive, creative minds, are no longer with us.

[@okcoolros4121]

"Can he talk? Did he tell you?" I love River so much!

[@NovemberLights]

Where does he say that?

[@longmemory1620]

sexy Ros

[@river.phoenix.1827]

Ros Tibbs OMG 😂 but still at least he’s being honest x

[@ohsuckitup2]

River was VERY wise beyond his years, and I wish he was still here to share his wisdom with us, he has inspired me like you wouldn't believe. Bless him.

[@Johnny7051MC]

Look at River's face when the caller makes the "appearance" comment, wow!! He looks so sad and hurt by it. I loved River Phoenix and read that he was extremely sensitive. I'm sure this comment really hurt his feelings. Back in 1986, I was 13 and remember seeing Stand By Me in the theaters. The Goonies & Lucas had been released prior to this, and both "Coreys" were very popular. But I also remember thinking, who is this kid River? He really stood out and was, in my opinion, way above the rest, in terms of his acting ability, and in the way he carried himself. You could tell that he was a special Human Being. By far, my favorite actor growing up. He was so unique, and he was SO ahead of his time, it's such a shame what happened to him. It seems like just yesterday when my brother was calling me into the family room on Halloween morning in 1993 and CNN was reporting his death while showing a scene from My Own Private Idaho. Nobody's perfect, everyone has demons, some more so than others. Requiescat in Pace River.

[@re-in222]

amazing

[@AK-pg7bm]

Man, that comment even hurt me. It was pretty uncalled for.

[@naturaldisaster2174]

He was molested and taken advantage of as a child

[@naturaldisaster2174]

He was way too smart for this world we have now. That’s why he’s gone

[@naturaldisaster2174]

I hate naive ppl lol

[@jasminebranch3007]

I hope Lisa Bonet will speak about her knowledge in 2022. She is a beautiful human.

[@iiziz]

RIVER IS SO CONSCIOUS FOR A YOUNG MAN HE WAS GOING PLACES

[@babyfacedstar]

7:14 "But there IS hope!" "We believe you River, we believe you!" Awww, I found that so cute and funny! God, I love Riv.

[@suledrake]

I know this sounds so simple and basic but I just wish River didn't die.

[@kadiabareld]

@Lisa Surlie LEO WILL NEVER REMPLACE RIVER.

[@riverjude9505]

Lisa Surlie lol no one ever can replace river like hell no will ever

[@flux202]

Wishing for life should never been seen as "basic"

[@georgiakelbie1025]

Lisa Surlie people can’t replace other people they both had great qualities and if River we’re still alive it would be one more person helping the environment which makes a difference. Honestly your attitude is horrible

[@jjoyce46]

Lisa Bonet always was a caring soul and so beautiful!

[@StacieVsTheWorld]

I'm pretty sure River was the most presentable person on that stage. I would have sat and listened to him for hours. What in the WORLD was wrong with that woman?! He's talking about caring for our world and citizens and she says he's not presentable?!

[@kadiabareld]

@Lisa Surlie no u are

[@riverjude9505]

Lisa Surlie so you just talking about yourself oh we get it.

[@leylatalibova7102]

Lisa Surlie Did you mention yourself

[@lockel537]

@Lisa Surlie get a life

[@lockel537]

@Lisa Surlie you are sick in the head. At least he did something in his life and left a legacy at 23 years old. You are 40 years old and all u do is rant on KZbin. Go get a job.

[@lilrenstar1]

Lisa is brilliant. All these years and look at her and her daughter.. health conscious lifestyle paid off!!!! ❤

[@sophiahernandez3751]

Its people like that caller that drove him crazy. He hated the ways of Hollywood he hated the cameras and the interviews. He hated how nobody payed attention to the global issues and instead payed attention to silly stuff like who he is dating or the latest gossip on any celebrity. He even said that is why he didn't have Hollywood friends because of his beliefs. So sad to see how strongly he believed in all of this and died from intoxicating his own body. RIP River Phoenix

[@chrissteffi]

That lady at the end saying Lisa and River needed a more “presentable appearance” was WILDIN out. Lol

[@slugluv1313]

right?!? was even worse in the 70s, 80s -- like you had to look all "professional" at work, going to job interviews -- you could be the most intelligent person, have mad skills, be the best person for the job, etc. -- but if you did not look a certain way, you were passed over someone who had the "right" look (and let's not even get into age! really really horrible for someone who was considered "older," especially if you were female)

[@christinamitchell6796]

Pissed me off but in every generation someone misses the whole point takes it away from substance

[@jasonbingle5363]

The lady is obviously nuts. She cares more about appearances than the actual substance of the words they were saying.

[@pinkhuggies23]

''theres hope there is hope'' what a special person

[@jw9939]

30 years later and we still have the same problems to solve

[@Mana94x]

I Love River so much I can't even describe how much he makes me happy the last call was so rude though

[@Kiahhhhhhhh]

3 very intelligent people. its an honor to listen to this

[@cecegiles7753]

I wouldn't say intelligent I would just say aware😊

[@spotlightspanther]

I think we're all intelligent in our own way and can't function without intelligence.

[@honeegrrl]

RIP River Phoenix. He was such a brilliant actor.

[@terranmystique7859]

Absolutely love this interview when River speaks the truth & about vaccines.

[@sii9423]

8:52-9:00 broke my heart both in their youth but wise enough to know where the world was heading. That caller was blissfully ignorant with her comment.

[@rachelmoore6391]

Lisa said back in the 90s how what we eat (like meat and other foods) would negatively affect our bodies and how serious they cause cancer, and look at the rate of how so many people are dying of cancer today. She was before her time truly. Donahue didnt seem to take her serious either.

[@ursulawanza1765]

Donahue rarely took anything seriously.

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Lisa was ahead of her time

[@LE0NVANWAAS]

Yes, River`s ideas are still actual today ! He was a beautiful human person I believe, and such a brilliant actor!!

[@thelostgirl101]

"take your bra to your grandmother" lol. River's so funny.

[@oooh19]

what does a bra have to do w/ anything though? he's a guy no one expects him to wear one

[@riversphoenixs]

He’s basically telling her “fuck your old fashion rules!” As in that it’s not the 1950s but rather than 1990s so him and Lisa can dress however they want and not have to follow the 50s dress code in dressing proper of wearing a suit and for Lisa to wear a dress.

[@Treebard]

I loved Raul so much.

[@rr7firefly]

Some people step forward bravely to speak the truth and then they suffer the consequences of widespread ignorance that dares to criticize or condemn them. I admire these three for their willingness to take a stand on important issues. Voices of reason against obscene profit-making. In the world we live in today there is a concerted effort by mega-corporations to ridicule these views as extremist. Billions of dollars are spent to silence voices like these.

[@cacah123ful]

river....I want to cry );

[@longmemory1620]

sexy Camila

[@arianagrandevids6515]

Lisa Surlie fuck off

[@leylatalibova7102]

Lisa Surlie Shut the fuck up idiot

[@tomhulcelover]

Did River say, "take your bra to your grandmother" ? hahaha i don't know if i heard it correctly. love him so much

[@tomhulcelover]

***** that must be it then! i'm pretty sure im gonna rewatch this video a lot of times in the future....lol

[@verprtectivefangirl2238]

When did he say that?!?omg

[@tomhulcelover]

Meg Moz around 9:16 !! hahaha towards the end

[@verprtectivefangirl2238]

+tomhulcelover omg I heard it! He was very smart and had so much potential but he had a little laugh every now and then which makes him perfect!!

[@deljean]

what did that mean though? lol

[@matthewalexanderlemma8000]

Where on Earth did River Phoenix come up with "Take your bra to your grandmother"?

[@CarisGrey]

Matthew Alexander Lemma River Phoenix. The king of the mild insult.

[@edeneverly2573]

Because Lisa wasn’t wearing a bra and doing so would’ve made her “more presentable” in the calker’s mind. He’s saying “you’re you are being old fashioned” like you’re grandmother who would’ve been wearing one of those restrictive nasty bras meant simply to create a specific feminine shape. He’s being clever. Hope I cleared that 4 year old confusion for you. It was his version of that disgusting insult “ok, boomer,” but instead he was actually very passionate and creative about how he made his points, unlike today.

[@dizmop]

I had to revisit this post as it's so relevant today in a world gripped by COVID19

[@cezzie901]

So sad that 22 years later, nothing much has changed.

[@thefamilyprojectindependen2290]

Rip river and raul !!!! All three ahead of their times. .. hey lisa

[@TwasNeverThus2]

Raul Julia was such an amazing human. He died 5 years after this was aired

[@kottonkandyx]

over 20 years later and nothing has changed

[@nickj3513]

To all the 30 and younger people out there!! This talk show was the best of the best back in da day!!

[@cleftheart]

Lisa's daughter, Zoe Kravitz, is now an actress.

[@cleftheart]

@carlos yeah People who "replied" to and "liked" my original post obviously did.

[@cleftheart]

@carlos yeah Thanks for the info but I did not ask to describe yourself.

[@cleftheart]

@carlos yeah Still caring I see. Not many people know about Zoe Kravitz actually. I bet you didn't.

[@katie9879]

I couldn't agree with you more. River was amazing, he did great things, and the fact that he could be judged for his appearance is disgusting. The fact that there are people out there who stand between making a difference, and doing nothing, just because of the appearance of the people who are advocates for doing such things. It is a shame that River died, before he saw a real difference being made.

[@jasonbingle5363]

the caller that referenced River and Lisa's appearance was disgusting. Wasn't even listening to what they were saying!

[@elizabethfaraone]

The caller was extremely ignorant and I'm sure she was not nearly as beautiful as Lisa Bonet and River Pheonix - very rare beauties indeed. The callers heart was very, very ugly. RIP, River, and stay where you are because this world is too ugly for you.

[@arianagrandevids6515]

Lisa Surlie your an ugly human being for saying that because if that was your son or daughter you wouldn’t be saying that

[@arianagrandevids6515]

@carlos yeah she was calling him ugly

[@arianagrandevids6515]

@carlos yeah amen he was smexy

[@sadaratamera4992]

4:33 when a relative ask how you doing then you tell them and they look at you like this.

[@leticiadelgadillo]

Thank You LISA! On Point Lisa! I had no idea how informed, intuitive, strong and brilliant she is....

[@sashabrown1796]

So weird to watch this. Looking back on culture I see how differently we think now. At the time it was all just normal. We've come so far socially, yet hardly anywhere in regards to the environment.

[@rr7firefly]

It is admirable that you think we have made progress socially, but there is still enormous bigotry in many parts of our country. On the surface things look better, they may be better in certain professions, but there are still bastions of hatred that are readily defended.

[@sashabrown1796]

@@rr7firefly agreed. Better doesn't mean fixed.

[@elizabeth1977]

i really like this interview

[@Minniepup]

I saw this show when it was originally on and this influenced me to become vegan. Everyone needs to read Diet for a New America

[@Iceis_Phoenix]

River just turned 50. Time flies.

[@deljean]

that was so rude at the end. even I was offended

[@sellyirawanhalim4552]

River phoenix had a briliant idea.. What in his mind was right.. Honestly at first i really don't understand what they were talking about.. River phoenix was talking about the global issues.. And it is happening now to us right? Global warming, healthy people, animals.. We need a kind of man like river phoenix💕💕 river phoenix was not only cared about himself.. He really cared about us too.. I love you so much my honey river phoenix💕💕

[@jessslegr6703]

Two smart and beautiful people! x

[@RiverJudePhoenix93]

If River was dressed in a bin liner id still take in every single word he said! Look is not everything, its personality that prevails, River just happened to have both!!! So River, my angel, You have my vote on everything!!!! R.I.P Darling!! x x x

[@josephlawson9950]

In memory of river phoenix and Raul julia

[@warlockmachine9313]

river was a hearthrob

[@annieemanniee]

OMG the caller at the end just went for it. How incredibly rude. There are certain people that you should "Do as they say and not as they do" and Lisa and River are those kind of people. Even though, yeah, Lisa has "exposed herself" in not a very decent manner and River abused drugs doesn't mean everything they say and do is negative! That witch was trippin' that day. How can you call in just to state the obvious but personally attack them so negatively like that when they are trying to be positive? Wow. People suck. It is totally an excuse to say you don't believe an actors' preaching on these issues just because of what they have done that you personally don't like. Not listening to these truths truly is the shame.... not their "appearance" PURLEASE. I can't stand certain celebrities today, but I still follow some of their health regimes because it is TRUTH.Use your common sense, it's easy to know the difference between when a celeb is selling out and when they share something that has helped them succeed that can truly help you. I love this interview. It will always be relevant. Eat Healthy. Even if you're a meat eater, like I am, you can eat to live better.

[@riverjude9505]

Lisa Surlie you are so pathetic you kno, just use your brains wisely, why you even blame people for things you have done? It is his personal choice to use drugs and he was dealing with his own problem. That was nothing to do with you nor others.

[@HealThyLivingQueen]

River and Lisa are just like us all... no where close to perfect. River did drugs to escape reality. He knew so much truth and was so awake that you feel alone and it can get scary. When I first started waking up I did the same thing. For YEARS! But then I came to Christ. I longer need the drugs on this lonely scary watch of truth. Though I walk the valley of death I shall fear no evil. Once you learn how to deal with reality things get better. It’s scary at first though! Rest in power River!

[@Aniastasia]

''TAKE YOUR BRA TO YOUR GRANDMOTHER!''

[@jetfa9]

we were very optimistic in the 80/90s ...everything felt like it could be accomplished...we had a new world and new century...now...things couldn't get worse...

[@mateamargo5261]

We believe you River we believe you...

[@naturaldisaster2174]

These kids knew already what was going on

[@Capgungoesbang]

He is completely right, HUNGER IS NO EXCEPTION. There are thousands of rooms back stage of a concert, tv show, radio show, etc., filled to the ceiling with food and drinks and half of that supply doesn't even get eaten, probably thrown out. It's like really? we can't share that with people who are REALLY fucking starving across the world? People that REALLY need it? Celebrities don't fucking care, they get so much and do not give whatsoever. They think practicing dance routines is enough.

[@teeahtate]

I like River's shirt.

[@lashercollette88]

River just cut Lisa off...damn lol.

[@katelynnelizaphoenixhaim2835]

XD yeah I'm still laughing!!!

[@riyanadkarni1076]

ShonColle yeah i noticed he did that a few times in this interview haha

[@LifeFilmz]

its typical for guys to cut off women, we're pretty used to it by now even tho it is extremely annoying lol.

[@ursulawanza1765]

"The 90a era" It's 2020. No new era. Nothing has changed.

[@oooh19]

@@ursulawanza1765 the 90s did have new hope and progress though

[@verprtectivefangirl2238]

River was such a good person, Lisa seems like she has a well screwed -on head too!

[@katelynnelizaphoenixhaim2835]

yea I felt same

[@longmemory1620]

sexy Megan

[@alikalik85]

They talking about something that matters (although I don't agree with them in some points, I respect their views and fact that they cared) and she noticed only their clothes - that's what is called total superficial ignorance.

[@Madalf-the-fool]

Raul Julia you were about 20 years off but definitely foresaw the shift

[@Theblizzardking]

LOL! Right when the lady says presentable apperance, River's staring upward with his mouth open like a baby!

[@AllOfYourLove21]

There's a video of zoe saying how much she loves avocados haha

[@SUGAR_XYLER]

*-* IN LOVING MEMORY OF RAUL JULIA, FROM HIS BUTTERFLY.

[@iyanavillavicencio2475]

When's the question? The rude one. Idk why but I am too scared to watch it. I just hate when ppl are extremely rude to the ppl I love. It gets on my nerves

[@riyanadkarni1076]

Iyana Villavicencio dont worry about it they handle it with grace and humor

[@riyanadkarni1076]

Iyana Villavicencio oh this is a really old comment you’ve probably already watched it haha

[@beabo-yq8dp]

lisa bonet is so beautiful. i don’t know much about her but her vibes cool. and i love river too

[@jendarame]

Did Phil actually say “global warming” and this was in the early 90’s???? Wtf have we been doing for the last 30 gd years????

[@frankdayton731]

When a gen z person discovers the world existed before 1995.

[@sunandsoul24]

Know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

[@butterflyjamjar]

I thought that raul looks like gomez out of the addams family. I looked up his name and realised he was gomez! also I didnt know he died and at a very simiar time to river. River died 31/10/93 Raul died 24/10/94. We lost 2 gr8 caring people there :( love you River x miranda , uk x

[@felixthelmocevallosmorales41]

Phillip John Donahue (21 de diciembre de 1935, Cleveland, Ohio) es un presentador de televisión y productor estadounidense, principalmente reconocido por haber creado y conducido el programa televisivo The Phil Donahue Show, también conocido simplemente como Donahue, el primer programa de variedades televisivo con entrevistas e invitados. El programa estuvo 26 años en antena en todo Estados Unidos, y fue precedido por tres años en la televisión local de Dayton, Ohio, antes de su desaparición en 1996. En ese mismo programa Donahue conoció a Marlo Thomas en una entrevista quien sería más tarde su segunda esposa.

[@francescaf.7942]

Poor dear kid, you who wanted to save the world, the world did not save you. 💔

[@sariputri7743]

Wow they were so advance ! And now we are cultivating all tue effects from neglecting the environtment. I cant believe this kind of talk show existed

[@Blahoblu]

presentable apperance? HAH! River could have sat there in a chicken suit and would still look great.

[@RiosMyAngel7093]

"Take your bra to your grandmother." I asked the same thing when I first saw this :)

[@babyfacedstar]

@KennedyCorey Okay, that is how you feel. But to me, He did change my life. He is an inspiration to me. I don't think of his bad moments, I take in all the good he did. He taught me to stay away from drugs. He taught me to love the planet even more. He influenced me, so I'm happy with that in my life. I guess everybody has there own opinion on who is a hypocrite or not.

[@jendarame]

This is incredible. So woke. How are we 30 years later still so gd blind?????

[@nicolewynne1212]

haha river said yeno so many times in this haha luv u river r.i.p

[@dena81]

19 almost 20 years later, we've only ruined the Earth even more.

[@niabelizaire3596]

Troycetv bought me here.

[@pinkhuggies23]

River n his sneakers awwwww

[@a.s2764]

What did the lady who called in say that got River so pissed off ?

[@a.s2764]

***** OHH haha, were they? P.S shut up Meg ( sorry I had too)

[@verprtectivefangirl2238]

+Tabby .S sorry I'll shut up😂

[@greenghost3756]

We still talking about this to this day

[@RiosMyAngel7093]

What did River say right at the end? Something about the caller's grandmother? I couldn't catch it. I just got "Take" and "Your grandmother."And that was a stupid thing for that caller to say about the way River and Lisa were dressed!

[@mariawallin2008]

Watching 2022. 🌎

[@sonyapeach]

If only they understood this was way more sinister than they thought.

[@shannonmccannon]

He interrupted so ironic lol

[@Joy-dx2rh]

Rami malek sometimes reminds of Raul Julia

[@LightworkBeacon]

This is a very interesting interview. But, there are too many topics at hand to do justice to one. I found myself agreeing with the panel on majority of subjects, and disagreed with one. I found each topic could’ve had a show in itself. I especially admire them for being open to the realities of human impact on the planet at this time. River had such a great presence.

[@felixthelmocevallosmorales41]

Raúl Rafael Carlos Juliá y Arcelay (San Juan, Puerto Rico, 9 de marzo de 1940-Manhasset, Nueva York, 24 de octubre de 1994)​ fue un actor puertorriqueño que vivió y desarrolló la mayor parte de su carrera en Estados Unidos. Realizó trabajos en el teatro, cine y televisión tanto en papeles dramáticos y cómicos como en musicales. Alcanzó fama internacional al interpretar a Gomez en la saga de películas La familia Addams en la década de 1990.

[@charlesderosas5577]

RIP river and raul.

[@Blahoblu]

You mean the caller? I think she meant that you would take both River and Lisa more seriously if they've had a different style. Like a suit or a fancy dress, I don't know. I think that you take them more seriously when they're themselves and represent what they believe in just like normal people. It makes it more real :)

[@jaciiez]

you can see how upset river got when that botc

[@blu48]

For God's sake, Raul Julia should have been president or the head of the EPA. River would have done well as a leader for youth to be well informed and could have been influential on environmental issues. Lisa Bonet was ahead of her time as most American women now breastfeed, are vegan, and vaccinate less.

[@ofbestfit]

I concur, why do we have people like desconocidos who have nothing better to do than troll videos because they have no artistic merits to offer , like heath and Elliott Smith River was the best and no one will be better than him.

[@shuyuki12]

and there was nothing wrong with her apperance at all she looked insanely gorgoues and healthy and glowing the caller was just a hater on them!