Why Iron elo accounts are so Expensive

[@curtiswalker8457]

"its so hard to get into iron" me and the boys: You know, I'm something of a pro myself.

[@AdamX1124]

Bro I wish I found this video 6 months ago when I was hardstuck iron IV and getting like 7 LP a win and losing 18 a loss. I coulda sold that shit

[@Ehenzel]

@@AdamX1124 I still win 5lp per game and lost 31 lp in one defeat but i do not want to sell my first ever account

[@qtfy]

my friend's dad plays league daily, and he is iron 3 he play solely urgot and misses every ult possible he still likes the game tho, he plays for fun and it actually super funny to play clash with him

[@syme4827]

You have the perfect money printing scheme , Just make him play urgot on different accounts xd@@qtfy

[@misutatomasu]

@@AdamX1124 How is it even humanly possible to be Iron IV? Do you play with your feet or something?

[@meethepie]

"Even if you have a positive impact as a jungler, you'll probably get reported anyways" Damn I felt that

[@Xurreal]

110% True.

[@diogoribeiro477]

Midlaner playing imobile mage dies 3 times to a tank hecarim gank even though there were wards but he overstayed and/or was oom. types "jungle diff" in chat

[@gabriele.franca]

@@diogoribeiro477 i want to put more than one like

[@quixxyify]

@@jakeparis5252 Thats a complete lie, either u were legit running it down or typing back, which made ur acc banned. Riot will never ban an acc, cuz some 12yo Jimmy didnt like, that his jungler didnt camp the shit out of his lane or didnt act like his servant, wiping his shit for him. People, who tend to do shitload of reports for zero reasons, dont pass that trust limit from riot's report system, and their reports pretty much mean nothing, unless system flags something besides it. And yes, im playing league pretty much since beta, and half of that time, even more, i think, im a jungler.

[@amadeus2599]

@@quixxyify true but if you are a jungle main you will get reported constantly by other players because people love to balme junglers for everything that goes wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if after hundreds of games and many reports from toxic people, there will be a game where the system picks up something like an unfortunate disconnection or just down a terrible game for what ever reason an ban the player. It's sad but I don't think it's impossible for it to happen.

[@firestorm8265]

As a genuine iron player, I don’t know wether if I want to cry about this or not.

[@autenthic7579]

just sell ur account and don't play the game dude, it's a winning winning decision.

[@C0astDelta]

Unironically, sell, make another, play ranked, sell

[@firestorm8265]

@@C0astDelta I literally did this 4 days ago and now I’m in bronze.

[@C0astDelta]

@@firestorm8265 welp, least you made some cash!

[@Vagdinox]

@@firestorm8265 Well now you are bronze your account is less valuable now stop climbing !!!!

[@aatsiii]

It's pretty sad that the creator haven't pointed out how destructive for the community is deboosting. Like he said, it's 150 win streak for mediocre streamer plus 300 intentional loses for lowlife debooster, that's 450 games, and 9 players in each for over 4000 people who have their fun ruined.

[@florinalinmarginean1135]

It's almost like the smurf market is literal cancer to this game and Rito should do something about it before new players stop coming into the game because they immediately get destroyed by plat cocksuckers who need an ego boost by playing in bronze and iron. Just my 2 cents though

[@aromatic8565]

You mean virtue signalling? Let's do it then! Did you use a phone to write that comment? Don't forget, it was likely produced in a Chinese sweatshop! Eat any chicken today? That chicken lived a life rammed into a cage with 500 others, barely able to breathe! Literally everything you have ever used, from salt to your phone, has had way more destruction on personal lives. And you sit here enjoying it. Yet you're here drawing the line at league of legends games. What a saint you are.

[@fiizkenfiizk7645]

Stuck in iron because of people like that it sucks. Every game someone int or afk or troll. Or you get in a team with bots, thats also fun :))))))

[@CANWEGETMUCHHIGHERRRR]

​@@fiizkenfiizk7645What's ur in game name?

[@cooc643]

@@fiizkenfiizk7645 No, you are stuck in iron because you are iron

[@diegodiego9593]

I have a friend who ints any lane he goes in, in most of his games, and still manages to hit silver. Being unironically iron is really an ermous achievement

[@manteiga4346]

well thank you

[@muglokdecrepitus1301]

I understand that people like my father that don't play videogames could be iron, but someone that doesn't play videogames would play league of legends and continue playing while not understanding a shit, so I don't understand how can be people being iron

[@contentlegends7301]

I'm iron lol

[@angelesintrickov5768]

No need to be so rude…

[@lethabo713]

my poor feelings 😭😭

[@delty8862]

You missed a key point about how hard it is to get to Iron 4. The queue times when you start getting that low start getting longer and longer, to the point that it can sometimes take as long as challenger queues, up to 30+ minutes. Because of this, the iron accounts start getting filled in Bronze and Silver lobbies to reduce queue times. When that happens the MMR calculation starts giving the Iron accounts much more MMR for a win, and losing a lot less for a loss. These two key points means that you have to actually lose exponentially more games in Iron in order to fall lower, and makes the entire process take hundreds of hours longer than you pointed out.

[@haai_hai]

actually my boyfrie d is in iron 4 and he gets paired with bronze people like bronze 2 bc theres not enougj people in iron, and he still has a shit mmr, winning 4 lp and losing like 20 lmao, his mm doesnt even change after playing with me against gold people

[@rogerroger4216]

das crazy

[@AtomicStinger44]

I have purposely dropped to iron 4. Took 2 months of dedication, struggling to maintain currently. Queue times are only like 2 to 5 minutes though.

[@CorporalPT]

@@haai_hai how does it feel like to date a vegetable?

[@nikoyh4477]

@@CorporalPT it's still good as long as he's in iron 4, what's making me tilted that 90% of ppl in plat do not deserve this rank

[@oliverolson6578]

Props to DongHuaP for making the background footage accurately painful to watch at an iron level. It hurt me watching the background footage for this video, but it felt incredibly on point, like a piece of art that is objectively terrible but somehow speaks deeply to the human experience

[@leichtgesalzener-kabeljaurogge]

it is kinda distracting though, gauging mz eyes out helped a bit

[@alsparkproductions7849]

The Warwick trying to get the Darius...

[@shai310]

Yeah it was really painful to watch but it does prove a point, while we usually look at players like these as bad players if they actually do it for elo deboosting they have to be really good at being bad.

[@Denominus]

Unironically I find Iron footage a lot more entertaining than pro play.

[@curts7801]

So wait, the fact that I start at iron every season means I could actually be profiting? Damn.

[@jest2933]

It’s “hard to get into iron” yea where do I sell my account

[@dreampieofficial]

We have come far enough as a society that you can both make money by being really good or really bad in league. What a time to be alive.

[@lemon9.9]

You have to be good at pretending to be bad

[@curts7801]

@@lemon9.9 or you can just actually be bad. I got that upper iron energy going for myself.

[@latestcoder]

let's post a paper about this: AI gets you to Iron Elo

[@truegamer2819]

yea but its fucking stupid at the same time cause they're players that really wanna climb and win, if you using this method to be place in iron, then you deserve to be perm banned, i didnt know this was a thing for iron, it just pisses me off that riot would ruined a rank system for money, now i have a further reason not to like riot games

[@FarmersAreCool]

This means society is collapsing.

[@angeleskimwelf.5678]

It’s because even if the average league player tries to get to iron it’s impossible

[@angeleskimwelf.5678]

So I was wrong…

[@dcrow9650]

One of my accounts is in Iron I. Didn't do anything special. Problems with the electricity service and the like. AFK on two rankeds and, there right to Iron 3.

[@theboneman7493]

@@angeleskimwelf.5678 Bruh I start in iron every season, idk why but I have to claw my way to gold for the free skin every time

[@champnotchicken4318]

@@dcrow9650 imma be honest and say that those 2 ranked games didn’t put you in iron.

[@darkz4349]

I'm iron 2

[@InnoSang]

"their playstyle is so unique, that normal human beings have to tryhard in order to be as dogshit as theyr are" Lmfo this line is gold

[@SoDamnMetal]

and absolutely true 😆

[@alexheller5602]

Look what you need to mimic a fraction of my power

[@stfu1159]

made even me an iron 1 player laugh

[@goldkubera4740]

@@stfu1159 i'm currently .. practicing champs in ranked with massive champ pool beyond what i can handle 30+ so i often get shit oon REALLY hard but after 120+ hours i still cannot demote below gold so i don't know how you guys do it

[@stfu1159]

@@goldkubera4740 we just play like complete garbage, while were thinking that were playing good

[@albellansfeld211]

Imagine all the poor players that tried and got banned just because they were that bad. what a shock it must have been to get told by the game itself you're too trash to play this game.

[@jym2r]

i was nearly this player lol. i was a noob that spammed master yi and didnt know shit about items and was bronze 3. then i realized "damn im shit i got to actually train like its a sport if i want to improve" so i started watching my replays and watching league pros and eventually went to plat. then i realized how lame it is that im genuinely putting time and effort into this shit video game so i stopped 😂

[@peacebuddha96]

​@@jym2rwhat a success story 😂

[@PHLOPPA-REAL]

​@@jym2rwhat's your in-game name?

[@jym2r]

@@PHLOPPA-REAL Jymer

[@abutterfly1351]

Not the same, but I used to know a girl who was solely an Irelia one-trick. She would peak around Plat only playing Irelia. As Irelia, she knew what items to build, how to utilize her mobility, the matchups and trading, and a lot of other top-lane related stuff that most people would consider basic game knowledge. However, this was not the case for any other champion. If Irelia was not playable that game due to someone else picking or banning it, she would pick some other champion like Akali or Teemo and just try her best. In these cases, she absolutely was unable to transfer any knowledge she had playing Irelia into top lane/other filled roles. There were games where she went 1/18 as Akali simply because she extensively limit tested Irelia and knew what to do to always beat the enemy laner, but on Akali, would simply look like she went in and inted when she tried the same strategies. It even lowered her honor level to 0 as a result of Riot thinking that she was "soft-inting." The response back to her appeal ticket for her multiple suspensions literally said, "We cannot reverse the temporary suspensions placed on your account. To perform to the degree of (insert details of Akali matches) is clearly a form of soft-inting." The thing is, she was not soft-inting. She straight up sucked at the game as someone who only enjoyed and knew how to abuse Irelia, but could not play any other champion. Back when I used to play matches with her, it would always be smooth sailing since she could 1v9 almost all of the games, but we would genuinely consider dodging if Irelia was not available to play to avoid the VERY likely loss. Akali/Teemo were just champions she fell back on as her most comfortable, by the way; she already performed incredibly poorly on them, so imagine her on champions that she simply did not consider within her comfort pool. (We never played ARAMs for obvious reasons.) Typing this out makes me think retrospectively about how it could possibly be that she was actually shit at the game due to such a gaping lack of game knowledge allowing her to produce the shittiest of K/D/As, and maybe her relatively minimal moments of success was just attributed to how Irelia at the time only needed button-mashing to win. It's odd since I personally do not consider Irelia that broken anymore or even that easy, but there is no other logical explanation at least that I know of for someone to be so good at a specific champion and unable to win with anyone else.

[@maliciousfacegaming8581]

The fact that some people will pay hundreds of dollars for an iron account so they can brag about how many games they won in a row in Iron IV 0 lp makes me feel a little better about myself.

[@ivaylosimeonov7227]

You see, the fun thing is that I am kept in Iron because of such players. And since I am not a bad player, I sometimes win against such idiots. I am sure I have ended a lot of winning streaks, because i see how surprised enemies are, when I backdoor a Nexus or I win a team fight, which seems to be unwinnable (e.g. by jumping in with a Singed, which has Rylai's and 230+ armor). Now, after viewing this video I begin to understand the reasons behind how strange and unplayable LoL has become.

[@aaabbb-zc7sx]

​@@ivaylosimeonov7227iron genuenly feels harder than bronze,because some hardstuck platinum 4chinner with low self esteem will always be there to carry the enemy team

[@nikademientieff966]

Honestly this strategy has earned them back thousands of dollars from views and clout

[@ailurusfulgens1849]

@@ivaylosimeonov7227 You're stuck in iron because you're iron. Stop being delusional about your skills.

[@CryptoNews2]

@@ivaylosimeonov7227 Can't you just 1v5 them and get out of Iron?

[@santoast5700]

This made me feel extremely trash I’ve never felt so attacked on a deep personal level

[@GreeGames577]

Skull

[@loafofbread9400]

litrally takes skill to be that bad

[@varjasib993]

U iron?

[@wladynoszhighlights5989]

@@varjasib993 igen

[@losfogo7149]

I played from 2015 till last year and i never got higher than silver 4, doesn't get much worse than this

[@TheFinalMaelstrom]

(Master Yi) is on the way (Master Yi) is asking for assistance (Master Yi) is asking for assistance (Master Yi) is asking for assistance (Master Yi) is asking for assistance (Master Yi) is asking for assistance (Master Yi) is asking for assistance (Master Yi): what's your address so I can formally send an invitation next time LMFAO 8:28

[@kerwinwarner2743]

Lol I blocked out those game screen it began to hurt me

[@BlahajGoesNom]

Dude, thats 7 pings.. thats legitimately impossible..

[@BenjaminGreenYT]

He may be iron but that Yi's banter is challenger level

[@justiceisanillusion5602]

@@BenjaminGreenYT He is gold. Not iron.

[@marche229]

I can't stop laughing, thanks for making me see it.

[@IzumiChenmeiru]

"Pinpoint Dogshit" is such a powerful phrase

[@atomatopia1]

9:00 “How to trick your team into losing the game” is just such a brutal perspective for ranked matches I’ve never considered before.

[@2ndintelligentWorld]

yeah man this is why having a terrible player is so tilting. they're not just playing bad for themselves. it leads to so many bad situations for the team

[@slatka_maco]

@@2ndintelligentWorld yepp, it can be super frustrating and leads to simply giving up when you constantly play with people who either don't understand how to let themselves get carried or refuse to. Getting matched up w iron players in silver is peak. It's close to impossible at times...

[@tyocruz4976]

@@slatka_maco realtalk the most important lesson u need to learn as a beginner in lol is when to engage and when not. While this sounds complicated its more like dont feed if ur behind and let ur team do the work and to make it even simpler dont feed is just DONT GO IN IF HES CLEARLY STRONGER THAN U

[@juanin200]

@@tyocruz4976 The problem is, when you have people actively trying to lose, none of the basic LoL rules matter

[@miso-ge1gz]

it's fun sometimes. It really gets those tryhard russians going, they will swear in every way possible, and you can report them at the end, they get a ban and you won't because your losing was believable.

[@poppy1x3]

It's like challenger but in reverse, the more people want to get iron 4 the more difficult it becomes to get because you would want to lose but you will play vs team that will also want to lose and it becomes the battle of who is the best at losing games

[@DaGraveCrowder]

It's like the SouthPark episode where they try to lose at baseball

[@Mana_Thief]

lmfaoooo

[@cameronmarler6223]

I wonder if people reverse wintrade at that elo

[@iamthemanhuehueheu]

Holy shit thats crazy

[@Nishinga.]

@@DaGraveCrowder hahah yes! Great reference

[@inglestopia]

I was Iron 4 in my beginning playing League back in 2020, I'm Silver now but never knew it was such an achievement to be in that position.

[@d3m0nsh1n3]

so was i back in 2019 and i am also your rank last season

[@ildisiri]

the reverse achievement 😂

[@yoshihasascended]

dude didnt know he could make a couple of hundreds of dollars

[@MP-ut6eb]

I really wanted to play in iron this season XD ended up bronze 3.... I didn't knew being a dogsht still GIVES YOU BRONZE and not iron

[@ildisiri]

@@MP-ut6eb You weren't dogshit enough xD Try to improve at being bad XD

[@merryglowround]

Imagine you’re genuinely bad, get 0/10‘d and actually get banned for being bad

[@Vinicius-Bigode]

My friends always bragged about being platinum+ or how good they are. I challenged the best player I know (GM rn) to hit bronze V, the lowest rank at the time. Fifty bucks he couldn't do it under a month, starting at lvl 30. He quit after one week laughing and claiming to be legitimately hard because people ran by some sort of unpredictable RNG algorithm and games lasting for so long, people with bad internet connection, clearly lost games turned into sudden wins at random, etc. I watched 3 games and laughed with him as they make no sense at all, especially the clunky jungle plays. Now that I remember that f*cker didn't pay me the bet >:(

[@cal1tam]

HAHAHAH

[@marlonyo]

Dude thhis is tempting me to play again those where fun because no matter how bad you where losing one non retarded engage from your team and you could easily get a penta and win the game.

[@isaacturner197]

That last part broke me, don't forget to get ya 50 bucks XD

[@cruel5286]

this sounds like bullshit lol, literally just instantly leave every game. This will cause a remake and you will still lose lp/mmr and 9 out of 10 times they wont even report you for leaving lol.

[@LimboTheory]

I remember a plat player was saying iron is so easy to get out of, just roll your face across the keyboard. I'd like to see him do this

[@Dunixify]

I knew it. I'm not dogshit, I am in fact masterfully skilled. You said it yourself, it takes real skill and control of the game to get an account to low iron. And looking at the percentile ranking, I'd say I'm on par with Diamond I or II, just applying a different set of skills.

[@rykehuss3435]

Its kind of like stock trading. Its just as difficult making consistently bad trades (if youre serious about it and not fooling around) as it is making good trades, since its a zero sum game. Someone wins and someone loses on every trade. So for you to be so consistently dog shit to be iron rank, all you have to do to get to Challenger is basically do everything the opposite you'd normally do. Good luck

[@andrewwang7699]

@@rykehuss3435 well the thing is if you can consistently make bad trades, that's a profitable skill in finance too

[@thefallenangel6945]

That genuine iron player watching this video appreciating himself for his skills that even he didn't knew he had 😂😂

[@Dachi_X]

nah bro i just want to die after this

[@ynesbarrow]

Me. T-T

[@thefallenangel6945]

@@Dachi_X 😅

[@regretsin8502]

divine skill, flawless and firm but really I have a 28% win rate and am Iron II even though I've been playing for 2 years and have over 250 games this season save me

[@equinox2655]

@@regretsin8502 bro I’ve been playing for almost a year and I am iron 3 75 lp, what role do u play?

[@naomhangreaney1255]

I only started playing ranked this year and I was un-ironically placed into iron 1, my friends keep telling me to sell my account but I personally want to have the challenge of climbing from the base to the top

[@tomato33344]

goodluck

[@locomotive4686]

What rank are you now?

[@WOOTMAN24]

@@locomotive4686 lmao

[@beastofalbeasts1]

Iron 3

[@Tarakanchick]

😂😂😂​@@beastofalbeasts1

[@sonemesis7083]

An amazing career path for me ❤️

[@logansmith6342]

Riot games is paving the way for our success my friend 🖤

[@thanosv9177]

ΗΗΑΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΑΗΗΑΑΗ

[@wqweqwet1804]

It’s crazy to think that had I stayed in iron 4 instead of climbing out of it I would have made money.

[@LuckyGnom]

How did you even get there in the first place?

[@wqweqwet1804]

@@LuckyGnom shitty internet connection, and a shitty potato computer.

[@mdrago2098]

@@wqweqwet1804 stop the cap

[@wqweqwet1804]

@@mdrago2098 I shit you not.

[@SorakaOTP462]

@@wqweqwet1804 Seeing an Iron Iv player is as fascinating as a challenger player lmao. Everyone wants to do an interview with challenger and learn their techniques. Well you have something to brag about too just on opposite scale.

[@SimonNZ6969]

I remember playing on someone's Bronze 5 account. The classic "I can't get out of bronze cuz of bad teammates" type. Fuck, it was like a whole new world there. I saw some shit.

[@treasuremage7546]

They're right in that the RNG is insane down there. But then it's also easy to just pick an assassin or a split machine like Yorick and win the game on your own.

[@league1809]

i have an iron 2 account that i spent a lot of money on, i have some prestige skins and im relatively a decent player, i had some other accounts with silver rank but never above. But it's hard to get out of iron when every single game your bot dies 3 times before 5 minutes.

[@lefroste6370]

i stayed there for like 3 months because i just ran at the enemy team and had an average of 10 fps (5 or less in fights) ,then i climbed to silver 5 solely by picking twitch and running at them level 1 which was like a 90% first blood because apparently they didnt know what twitch's E was

[@thatguy5233]

@@league1809 sorry to say that but even then it's really easy if you are good enough. i was there because of huge internet problems and once i fixed it it was a breeze to gold IV. only then it started to get harder. iron people don't even feel real. i even called my brother to watch my games because it's just unbelieveable and it was such a good times actually (to be more precise, i was bronze IV before he even came from school, but it still was funny. he was really sad he couldn't watch real iron from what he saw in bronze+). the wierd thing is, the higher i was, the more toxic people were. i thought that people in iron are gonna be toxic asf but they were funny sometimes

[@thatguy5233]

my favourite moment is gotta be when i was playing yasuo (because i just can't play it and i'd feel bad if i tryharded vs them with my mains) and i was playing vs lucian mid (meta, back then) and he got really smoked along with his premade jungler but after the game he only wrote "you can thank your yasuo for carrying. i hope we can get a rematch someday". it was pretty cool.

[@ModestToast3073]

As someone who used to boost to immortal in valorant, taking tons of losses can be SUUUUPER boring. It's HARD to lose sometimes, but its not like you can just take a break on the winning games and pop off since it affects mmr so much. You have to be losing even in the games where you win and it's a serious toll on your mental when ranking up can take 10+ games.

[@jonahpeacock2561]

I had a friend who was hard stuck for years in iron but seemed to know a lot about the game it was suspicious until I found out he was actually blind

[@anycolouryoulike9160]

Interesting. There are some games blind people can actually get super good. I think mortal kombat or street fighter if I remember corretly. Def not the case for LoL. That shit makes me sad.

[@anycolouryoulike9160]

@@brynion2117 I think the dude is legally blind (has some sight) and his entire circle of friends play lol.

[@chemicals8582]

@@brynion2117 Probably because if he's blind, he can't read his teammates flaming him in chat

[@yungkenwud6397]

Wait are you friends with Lucky?

[@kevindegering2908]

lee sin mains ~ probably

[@georgeund7533]

“This is why it’s hard to get into Iron” - me and my duo friend everyday - “hold our beers” *13 losing streak in bronze unintentionally*

[@rick30521]

It's funny how I once helped a friend reach silver once and struggled more on silver 1 trying to rank up, than playing on gold 5, I play on LAN, and just like NA, everyone thinks they should carry the game (even with champs that are meant to support or enable someone else to do so). Also, people tryhard much more on the brink of reaching another rank than while being secure on one they deem decent enough.

[@youneskasdi]

My younger brother is iron2 without even trying

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@rick30521 Ironically, as a gold plat player before, I'm currently absolutely struggling to get out of silver1. Why? Every game I have a teammate going 10+ deaths in under 20 minutes. I know the meme of "yeah my team is the reason I can't climb", but this shit is just ridiculous. Had a vayne who was 4k hero damage in a 27 minute game. He didn't take a single turret too. But boy did he have the balls to flame and call everyone else boosted. And teammates that just don't listen to calls, and do shit engages and keep going alone in the jungle at minute 30. It becomes a coinflip of which team has more feeders and can throw the hardest. I get that I shouldn't expect much of silver players, but these people are TRYHARDING and feeding. I can't imagine trying that hard and still feeding. It's not even tense or close. Games are complete stomps on either side, win or lose. I'm probably the only anchored, middle ground player who neither feeds too much or gets ridiculously fed every game, a.k.a. a coinflip player in my region rn. League seems to be full of them nowadays.

[@matthewschmidt7466]

@@stankobarabata2406 u would get out if u were gud

[@stankobarabata2406]

@@matthewschmidt7466 Kinda hard to when almost every game one of the enemies is 15 fucking kills by 20 minutes. Skill won't help against a fed person, even a braindead can beat faker 1v1 if Faker is like 3/0 and the scrublord is a 15 kill Katarina.

[@ellisdee1933]

Easiest way to throw games (works 99% of all games): Step 1: Queue Mid. Step 2: Ban your junglers champ. Step 3: Pick Syndra with TP and full MS+AH runes. Step 4: Follow your jungler the whole game and throw his jungle camps with your W (max w first). Throw them as far as possible to get them reset. Step 5: Your jungler either gets mad and leaves or gets mad and tries to outrun you. This method works to 99% gl hf

[@Oisaly]

no ban?

[@aokaaa141]

get ban

[@1993httphil]

Step 6: Get banned after 5 games.

[@kennethknight5964]

now it makes sense why getting to silver was an impossible task that took RNG of the gods and it was completely based on my team. Silver to gold was a breeze and extremely enjoyable with good players. this hurts the game more then it helps it

[@dotonthehorizon9620]

It doesnt only hurt more than help, it only hurts the game, it doesnt help at all

[@zionlee1004]

You are literally lying. I can play with my shlong and still carry myself out of iron and bronze. You literally have 9 people worse than bots. Its not evencse to impossible. Its even more impossible to lose in iron if you are a human and have hands lmao

[@gaborcsuzi4504]

@@dotonthehorizon9620 Well, mathematically, all of those peoples trying to lose intentionally, rage quitting, afking, etc are helping you more than it helps the enemy, LoL players just tend to only recognize it in their own team. Lets say you want to win, you aren't afking, quitting mid game, etc. There is 4 slots in your team for such a player, and 5 slots in the enemy team. You have a higher chance (56%) that the enemy team gets one of them. If there is 1 of them in every single match, your win rate is instantly boosted to 56% by this fact alone. If their number is not even close to that 1 per game, then it doesn't really matter anyways, because it affects nothing, and its all just whining.

[@gamera5160]

@@zionlee1004 It's easy to climb in low elo if you have a 1v9 champ, but if you have a champ that relies on cooperation with your teammates, it can be extremely difficult. As a support player, playing in bronze has always been difficult, but climbing afterwards is much easier.

[@JebacPresretac101]

@@gamera5160 For people reading this, It's way easier to carry a game in Iron as supp (Leona) than any adc other than Miss Fortune (her teamfight changing ult). I am remmebering my games and start thinking some people are deboosters, but realistically, I play with an autistic friend and he is way worse than all of those deboosters combined...

[@sime361]

My friend boosted a dude to bronze 2, a few days later he was legit in Iron 3. I don't understand how it's possible.

[@cattysplat]

'Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.' - Albert Einstein

[@DoubleStudentLoans]

^. Yup. People who get that low are likely either physically or mentally handicapped. I am not even saying that to be mean

[@gizel4376]

my friend is the 3rd highest mastery Garen in NA with around 5,2 milion mastery and he's stuck in Iron and i swear he's not doing it on purpose

[@user-vo4lh9nc8m]

i can make a iron iv account easy lol i dont understand why so much cost

[@Duran762]

Imagine every rank had their own map. In challenger the map would be heaven theme then in Iron its like Zaun from Arcane.

[@ivailoivanov01]

Challenger would be shurima, Grandmaster would be noxus etc.

[@abdikeur6393]

every rank icon does represent a region

[@jedd7624]

@@abdikeur6393 the icon now is dogshit

[@wurmtron]

thats actually a good idea

[@EverythingBry]

@@ivailoivanov01 Challenger is actually Demacia, Shurima is Gold where I'm from : D

[@user-vd3pw3xk5s]

Instead of selling my Iron 4 account getting 500$ and quiting the game I just continued playing the game for 2.5years peaked Silver 2 and now dont hsve 500$..... Feels good I feel like crying

[@0utopistis]

dont play ranked games usless 4fingers noob...go play aram and pac man

[@user-vd3pw3xk5s]

@@0utopistis thanks for the offer but I rather keep playing with your sister

[@jbjunio]

💀💀💀

[@Bobby-wq8bn]

@@0utopistis wow a salty nerd :D

[@nickolayvlachkov7781]

No1 will buy an iron acc for 500 they go for 30-40eur

[@gasgano8255]

I tried to get to iron 4 once for the lols. Same ideas, don't make it obvious, lose games but don't make it a shitty, because obvious, experience for everyone else. It was completely Impossible for me. Like mentally I was not able to want to lose as hard as was needed. It is absolutely a skill.

[@TRVPHAUS]

bruh you start iron 4 wdf are you even talking about. YOU START IRON YOU DONT HAVE TO TRY AND GET THERE STUPIDEST SHIT I EVER HEARD

[@xddBunnings]

I think some people do it very poorly where they blatantly run under towers, you just find ways to disrupt your own teams gold advantage, steal your own junglers camps without them noticing, throw yourself into enemy minion waves to make it look less int to lower hp etc. You throw crumbs to your teammates help them get kills so they don't think you're a piece of sh1t but you try to ruin gold advantage every way possible, the bounty system is the trick to throwing matches.

[@Avatarbee]

"Today we will discuss why it is so hard to get into iron." Me stuck in iron:"... what?"

[@emprahsfinest7092]

same i got to promos like twice already im probably gonna get back to bronze this month but it's such a nightmare

[@eerfmod]

@@emprahsfinest7092 Watch more videos on the role/champion you want to play, wave management, and macro. Learn how to exploit the mistakes those in Iron are making, that is how I finally got out of Iron/Bronze. Still working on getting to gold but feels good to have made it to silver.

[@texTical54]

what was the site to sell Iron accounts again?

[@max-bc5uo]

I recently got back into league after a 3-4 year break. Been playing on my brother's account who hovers around iron-bronze. The people I encountered in iron were so bad I assumed they are bots. I only played 4 games and thought it would be funny to play upside down. Went 30-35 every game

[@mistalod]

It’s cuz everybody down there are bots.

[@max-bc5uo]

@Cumran I went into windows settings and made everything appears upside down

[@groyperfuhr4871]

next time you could try swapping around your buttons as well, use poiu instead of qwer that way you have to press in reverse order too

[@slatka_maco]

Literally tho, and the funniest shit is, these iron players get matched with silver players. So they ruin their entire game. Idk why these people play ranked already when they know nothing about League... It must be frustrating for them too, no?

[@nonumfrancis3109]

I'm high silver/low gold rn. i attribute my hardest climing experience to back in 2020 when I climbed out of iron and bronze. those were actually some of the worst games i've ever been a part of.

[@Magyar_Huszar]

There is a big misconception in this video which is that reports always do something. The only thing a report does is trigger the automated system to check the game. This means that unless you do something that can be seen by the automated system a report is useless. As an example the way i usually derank is by going triple bot and not going jungle or duo mid and abandoning top or something similar. I've been doing this since S5 on the same account using about the same method. This is because riot does not want to accidentally punish players that are new and trying unconventional tactics (eg duo top or something) The things that are currently dangerous to do as a deranker is: dying more than 3 times under tower in the first 14 mins. flaming in any way that can be seen by the automated system. Not doing champion damage for 10 mins in a game. Bassically anything else flies going smite mid nunu 0/17/3 is ok to the automated system as long as you don't cross the previously mentioned "rules".

[@brave1]

yeah, you do not need to give a shit about winning games at all, the only way to get banned is if you get ticketed and it's incredibly obvious that you're griefing, there's an account on na called oppai hero, just go look at it

[@Jawbrah93]

Miert intelsz, trollkodsz s5 ota? Nem ertem miert jo!

[@rayesafan9628]

Good to know! Not that I’m a de ranker, I’m just actually that bad, and I’m afraid of getting banned for playing bad

[@mondrometal]

You got me curious.. why are you de ranking the same account?

[@Magyar_Huszar]

@@mondrometal cuz first of all I have no life and second of all deranking to me is more enjoyable then being stuck at my ranked peak

[@andyeccentric]

Alternative title: Future career prospects if your country's economy implodes

[@cattysplat]

The other point is people who enjoy stomping noobs and like to smurf full time, actually have competition and challenge in almost every other rank. Smurfs are literally everywhere, however they are much less likely to be in Iron, simple because of how few there are, and how hard it is to get into Iron, it truly is a special club of it's own that keeps most players out, so being able to invade it and destroy everyone is like the ultimate smurf's dream of an ego boost.

[@abdusselamzahma7474]

Most ""smurfs"" are silver/gold players so that could be true, but a real smurf would already stomp gold games

[@justiceisanillusion5602]

@@abdusselamzahma7474 Yea, any d1+ can stomp any elo all the way up to d4 easy with 15/3 scores in most games.

[@วิชชากรสุขวัฒน์]

They are too good to be Iron as Thiere Brain cant Trick Themself to do it

[@gimmeasekkond7525]

@@abdusselamzahma7474 ye gold games r no diff than silver.

[@jacobesterson]

@@abdusselamzahma7474 With league you can easily be called a smurf if you found silver too hard and decided to make a new account to have a bit of a power trip. It's not like with actual high elo players sure, but people who are *actually* Iron 5 stand no chance in hell against even silvers, let alone diamond 5 through 1 and above. Hell a bronze player who has a really aggressive playstyle and dies to ganks all the time because they have zero map awareness would still probably trash an Iron 5 match. *Most* smurfs are likely silver and below players who are mad they can't climb, it's one of the reasons genuine new players find the game rough pre level 30 because half of the pre ranked players are smurf accounts and even bronze players beat new players.

[@Yoda_Gaming1738]

as a wise man once said, "if given the option, gamers will optimize the fun out of any game"

[@henryalpaca1536]

Wow, anyone else didn't know they were professional elo de-boosters?

[@Quirital]

i don't need to buy an iron account, i already made one myself

[@StevenAcunaBG05]

I've made this journey to the deepest side of ELO hell. I quickly found out how difficult it is to lose a game at that level.

[@TimoRutanen]

If there's another deep delver in the game, there's a 5/9 chance he's on the other team, losing just as hard as you.

[@Obelion_]

yeah i think we all tried anti boosting an account before, but you really hit a hard cap at maybe iron 1 where you literally have to compete with not only other "anti boosters" but constant inters and leavers where its really hard to make a negative enough impact

[@thoticcusprime9309]

@@Obelion_ No I didnt try. since i dont care lmao. iron doesnt exist to me

[@DongHuaPan]

Hope everyone had a great holiday! I'll be doing more videos on the black market scene, I'll be talking to a Professional Elo LOSER and showing you guys how he's able to make a living deranking accounts. And no, this is NOT an easy career path lol.

[@folkenberger]

I usually pay a lot of epople to demote my accs to keep using them as much as i can (to boost and duo boost), but ive never been able to get someone to demote an account to iron, its simply way to expensive to get someone that is tryharding to lose

[@seiori]

@@folkenberger Have my own personal account I got to iron. You can go through the hassle of losing. Or you can just take advantage of placements. Decided to climb on it now and I get +13 LP for a win. Best way to make one is to just play like 10 games and lose them for your placements. And then just wait till next season. This is at least how you mass produce them. You can spend the time losing, but it takes forever on a fresh account as your MMR needs to sort of settle down. We lost 16 games in a row and still didn't lose any LP. So we just left the account, came back next year and started placements in Iron 4. Then it's just a case of manipulating the MMR or leaving it as it is

[@BartZeroSix]

I have to put a thumbs down on this video, because of all the bullshit bait around the prices of those iron accounts. Truth is, an iron 4 account is worth $100-200, not "up to $500" like you said multiple times.

[@screamtheguy6425]

DongHuap I've been a viewer for 7 years. My brain is boosted with dopamine when you upload videos!

[@Sony-ny3xx]

what are you guys saying you gotta try hard to get iron 4? i just got it naturally, without trying at all. IMAGINE where i could be if i tried harder. i guess im just built different. keep trying to match my rank, but you'll never get to my level.

[@brawltrailmonX]

i wish you would've interviewed me for this i used to be the biggest b5 acc seller in euw in seasons 5-7

[@IIIIIIIIIllllllllIIlIlI]

We need to talk then :)

[@brawltrailmonX]

@@IIIIIIIIIllllllllIIlIlI I'm haven't been active in years I don't think there's much i can help you with

[@brawltrailmonX]

@Zinboo multiple ones i would supply most sites that sold them. my main customer used to be aussyelo no idea if they are still in business

[@brawltrailmonX]

i also used to sell to streamers and content creators directly

[@skya6863]

@@brawltrailmonX how many accs you'd sell during a year?

[@KyrosQuickfist]

Things like this are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to why games, gamers and gaming are just not what they used to be.

[@highflame4984]

Wow, before iron was added, I actually managed to get on the lowest elo of my server, I wish I knew about this then

[@Mhmmz]

Could’ve profited off ya pain 😂😂😂😂

[@SilencePandaa]

I have a friend who is unironically iron 4 and the thing is that he's on the last page of the OCE ladderboard (last time I checked he was 2nd last). I don't understand how these people exist HAHAHAH

[@savage_serpent1383]

Literally just means he doesn’t want to learn and thinks the way he plays the game is the right way

[@SilencePandaa]

@@savage_serpent1383 doesn't even take much to even be bronze 4. He plays like heaps of games but he would always be the lowest rank no matter how hard he tries. He was silver 1 in CSGO, iron 4 in Valorant, Copper in R6S. He was genuinely a shit gamer. I thought I would never see one myself, but he was a prodigy at being shit at every game he touched. He has over 1k hours on league and CSGO/Valorant and he watches videos on how to improve but he never improves.

[@oasise2364]

Thats actually sad

[@wildevelynnappeared]

@@SilencePandaa My theory is: these people that play thousand of games and are still bad, they have huge problems outside of the game, like, irl y'know

[@BigMuskachini]

@@SilencePandaa dudes iq is probably sub 90

[@howardholy]

Most people: "One day, i'm going to hit challenger" Me: "One day i'm going to hit iron"

[@themuffinbg516]

Me: "One day i'm going to hit iron II

[@notenoughcatfoodone2270]

as a genuine 0LP iron IV, i have never been so proud and insulted at the same time.

[@tyszq]

Back in the days when I was a booster, there was a time when our service hired too many booster, and it was really hard to grab an order. So instead I bought a bronze 4 account to play on it when there was no actual clients to boost. I simply made it to diamond and sold for ~100 USD. Managed to do a 74 games winstreak. Still, ranking up and selling accounts doesn't make sense, as you can make literally 10x more on boosting with same amount of games. Same for de-ranking, but it might be an idea if you're too shit to get a booster position.

[@cattysplat]

Yeah most people are too attached to their personal accounts and just want boosting. The people who smurf do it with the intention that the accounts are disposable and they do not care if they get banned or troll hard.

[@tyszq]

@@cattysplat It's not necessairly attachement to the account. The main reason people buy boosting (from my 3+ years boosting experience) is for social status and bragging to friends about their rank. If you randomly show up with another diamond account while being in gold for last 3 years, nobody will believe you actually reached that rank, but bought the account instead. If you have a 2 days winstreak on your main account, people are more eiger to believe you actually did this, and will likely be impressed. I'd say 95% of clients don't disclose to their friends about boosting and pretend they did it alone. Same for youtubers etc., that buy boosting for similar reason, so they have higher status in eyes of their followers. For example, one of the biggest youtubers in Poland was our client and spent thousands on boosting. Literally nobody knows about it but very limited number of people from boosting community.

[@Fishbro]

@@tyszq How tf do you boost reliably though? It takes me nearly 500 games on average to reach platinum and well over 1k to hit diamond, and being a jungle main I tend to get permabanned by 300-400. If I go as a top laner I get it done within 800 games taking 2x as many due to less impact, but I never get banned. How is it even possible to get a 74 winstreak with league's match making? Don't you get some unwinnable games where your top dies lvl 1, teleports back and dies lvl 1 again, dies behind his turret still lvl 1 and the enemy top has 3 plates, 4 kills, first tower, and is invading your topside jg and you're moving onto your krugs to begin your second clear. I main Trynd/Nasus so is it an agency issue or mechanic issue? I know carnarious reliably hits high elo as a nasus 1-trick so I don't think it's that.

[@tyszq]

@@Fishbro Firstly, boosting is usually done duo. In low elo, its nearly impossible to lose duo boosting. Even if your team is totally garbage, you can win the whole game with your 3 teammates having 0 kills. Id say 99% of loses in low elo are if you just match against smurfs or other boosters (that way you can get smashed on lane yourself, not to mention your silver teammates) Another fun fact is that in low elo, booster don't even focus that much on winning (because your chances to win are 94% anyway) but rather on winning as fast as you can, so you can play more games and make more money /hour. When it comes to higher elo (gold+), you can naturally lose more often. But in general regards to your comment, play better. Idk what else can I say lol. Focus on improving your skill and knowledge about the game rather than playing as much games as you can with low winrate. Simply the fact that you look at number of your games in terms of reaching certain rank, means that you have a wrong mindset.

[@higorss]

@@tyszq Sorry but how much $ did you make per month doing this?

[@Darque2391]

Imma use this excuse whenever I go on a 10 game lose streak now.

[@PartyMain]

After watching this video, I'm convinced that atleast half of my teammate's are trying to sell their accounts

[@alltidhundra504]

Lmao

[@medogamer5716]

Watching this while I am iron 4 with 0 lp😂😂

[@Wonderingax]

Been waiting for it after the short, I dont even play league but you Mr Dongy are just that entretaining

[@Rattolord]

I've gotten to iron 4 0lp 3 times now, and it's so hard. especially the first time took me so long, until I figured out the strat. What I found to work nicely is getting a good lead early, but only good enough to where you can kill any champ, and not make your lane opponent useless. Then you have to give your shutdown to whoever looks like a promising carry on the enemy team (lux, adc, hypercarries etc), but never get so behind that you can't kill everyone, cause you'll need to be collecting the enemy team's shutdowns and steal kills to keep your team behind. Also, with this strat you will 100% go jungle or mid. Champs for this strat will wanna have low range, good 1v1's and mobility. My personal tryhard favourites were Graves, Shaco and Kayn (yes, even mid, it doesn't fucking matter, trust me). You always kill whoever you want, get to big waves fast, and you can int without it looking too sus. My fav for-fun picks are on-hit Neeko, on-hit Lulu, cocaine Nunu. These requires you to never fall behind tho, cause else you'll be useless, and your team might get back in the game, I'm not joking, if you think that your 2 leavers on your team will for sure make you lose the game, then don't, cause these people are experts at throwing leads, and not finishing games. I would recommend everyone to go on an iron 4 journey to experience the atrocities that goes on the deepest depths of elo hell. You'll be surprised at how hard it is to even get past iron 2, and how much strategy goes into not tilting the enemy, and knowing that at any point you could have gotten a penta, but you just collected a shutdown and accidentaly flashed into the Thresh's hook pointed at the wrong reality and baited your team. whoops.

[@shieldgenerator7]

its crazy to think that theres this much strategy involved in intentionally losing

[@Rattolord]

@@shieldgenerator7 some of the things I've seen can only be witnessed, you wouldn't believe it otherwise

[@Paradoxof0]

I have also successfully gotten an account to iron 4 0lp. I've only done it once, and it took me about 30 games before I figured out my personal optimal strategy. I ended up with the same general idea: stay fed enough to get enemy shutdowns and always give your shutdowns to enemy's best player. However, I did not do solo lanes or jungle. I played as sivir adc (tbf I'm a Draven one trick so it's the lane I know best). I figured that the best strategy is not only to aid your enemies, but to sabotage your allies. You run around the map taking as much farm and xp as possible away from your team, which is easiest to do on sivir. You can also very effectively shut your support out of xp by manipulating the waves so that you clear the waves when your support isn't in the lane (iron players don't know back timings, take advantage of that). My supports would constantly be 3+ levels behind me. Unfortunately, the hand leveled account started bronze 4, so it took 30 games before the mmr dropped enough for it to demote to iron (this was season 10, so there was a much larger demotion protection than currently). My final sivir tally when I hit Iron 4 0lp was 8W 49L for a 14% winrate. And my overall winrate at that point was 13W 72L for a 15% winrate. I agree that the experience was something to behold. I had tried years ago to get Bronze V and failed, stopping at Bronze 3. This was a personal challenge to see if I could do it (without getting banned). There would be times where I knew I had the game lost and so I could pull out my actual diamond mechanics and make some sick outplays only to then stop right before killing them or just making sure I also die at the end. Most memorable stuff would be a 3v5 (so effectively 2v6) game that our team won, some really laid back for fun players, the time I got a kill as ashe by just right clicking the enemy adc once and literally taking my hands off my keyboard and mouse, and the supports that I added telling them I would duo a couple games with them on another account to make up for the loss (which a couple took me up on). By far the hardest aspects for me were: the tedious, slow descent that feels like forever, and the discipline to hold back, to not make the outplays that you know you can make. Best ways to overcome these: play in smaller sessions, just 2-3 games at a time. And try to create minigames of making the coolest fail outplays you can make. Like you said, flash into that thresh hook that was literally aimed 6 teemos away from you. whoops indeed.

[@Paradoxof0]

Afterwards, I started the winstreak grind. Hitting 48 wins in a row (all on Draven) before finally losing on the 49th with double afks. I then capped that off with a 32 game win streak before finally losing the 33rd game (83rd overall) at gold 4 mmr. So over an 82 game span, 81W and 1L (99% winrate) with mmr ranging from iron 2 to gold 4 (average rank of players in my iron 4 games was actually iron 2, because there's just so few players below that and I didn't continue to tank mmr after hitting rock bottom). It was statistically easier to win than to lose by a significant margin. 82 games at 99% success when trying to win. 85 games at 85% success when trying to lose.

[@Rattolord]

@@Paradoxof0 ye, some games are actually just impossible to lose, the throws are just so random. 22-65 with you holding 15 kills? enemy loses a 2v5 tower dive, and your team suddenly realises baron is cool and just runs it down and ends the game, while you were afk farming jungle, pinging your team back or something lol. winstreaking is significantly easier, cause you can usually win 1v5 since everyone tries to stop your lead instead of making leads of their own, but being so far ahead, and their uncoordination you just get to pick them apart piece by piece. Also, I realised by being in bot or top I couldn't really stop my team from stomping bot/top from 4 min, hence why I found mid and jung to be the best roles, getting to a lane and stealing the kill if they were on a suicide mission, or ganking and accidentally dying cause I "missclick" tower. I also found it super funny how I was never blamed, since I had 300 farm and 20+ kills, obviously I wasn't the reason we lost the game. It was for sure my teams fault I died in a 1v4 and gave 1000g to Jinx 3 times, right? :^)

[@Kotka595]

Report system hardly can detect deranking if you make it look like you have just a bad game. Running it down mid gets banned by automated system but obvious trolling like cancelling tp with trundle e gets banned only through ticket reports but Riot support will look smart deranker just being a bad player and not banning him.

[@tennebroussalley5678]

U gonna sell ur iron 4 account?

[@Kotka595]

@@tennebroussalley5678 nah Im just gonna continue trolling until its perma banned lol

[@shai310]

Yep true, I think looking as a bad player while you know how exactly to lose is kinda impressive on its own. Looking for an optimal way to lose to derank your account does require a lot of game knowledge as well.

[@SwissFech]

Its easy, try to steal as much ressources as possible and dont use it ingame dont be at objectives dont help push or drake or nash try to killsteal and feed the best enemy laner if enemy dies give him a free kill

[@dddmemaybe]

@@SwissFech Damn that's good. The shutdown system really does make it easy. Play a killsteal champ like Mobi-boots E-max Shaco mid with smite and hoard levels/gold for "last-hitting" and then "re-distribute wealth". So fucking funny ngl. I'd do it but I don't wanna do it on my main account nor buy any accounts so fuck it tbh.

[@franekdr]

Im Iron 4 0LP hardstuck for months. This Video gives me Depression💀💀💀

[@LukeyChung_OG]

As someone who is hard stuck iron I'm shock you can sell an iron account for that much

[@arcanefrg9747]

same bro

[@Eddy-dk6ug]

i hope you know iron almost entirely composed of people with learning disabilities lol

[@LukeyChung_OG]

@@arcanefrg9747 u too pain hope you get of iron elo

[@LukeyChung_OG]

@@Eddy-dk6ug well I guess your right

[@pixeldimond]

YOU'RE A LEGEND

[@SuperSaiyaman3]

12:53 lmfao the buildup for the roast was too good

[@Hash1Suspect]

It actually took me and my friend WEEKS of trying to ‘lose’ to get iron4 on accounts a few years ago and holy shit… it was so hard… I’ve quit league since then and it was by far the hardest experience I’ve had. Harder than getting high diamond when I played s3-5

[@martenl7327]

why did you quit league? =(

[@Hash1Suspect]

@@martenl7327 old school RuneScape makes me $, league makes me angry. Easy choice for me lol

[@zzzz734]

@@Hash1Suspect nowadays osrs gp is worth nothing sadly

[@PartlyXenon]

Please tell me you were five premade or your username so I can report you? xD

[@xddBunnings]

​@@Hash1Suspecthow do you manage that on rs? Doubt it'll work nowadays.

[@racecarrik]

Dang, if it's hard to get into Iron then that means the people there REALLY belong there 😂

[@mrbuckets2310]

Yes please encourage these people to throw games. Love to see it.

[@shaneoblack1672]

I've always wondered how people get into Iron, not the ones intentionally losing games but those with so low skill that they end up there. I'm sure if you get used to bot games you'd be placed in Bronze. My friend who didn't use a keyboard got to Silver (yes that means he clicked everything), anything below that is a mystery to me.

[@andrzejtutaj2226]

Did he not use the keyboard because he couldn't, or because he chose not to?

[@shaneoblack1672]

@@andrzejtutaj2226 He chose not to. He was used to playing strategy games without any hotkeys, so he played like that for about 2 seasons. I told him to play with hotkeys, now he plays a lot better, but yeah if a clicker can get to Silver elo I don't know how people can be lower than that. We also play from South Africa on EUW so we have to play on like 200 ping.

[@shaneoblack1672]

@Triple 9 Anyone can get Mastery 7 on a character if they play it enough, I'm sure he isn't going 0/10 in all of his games. But if he's in Iron he's lacking basic fundamentals on how to play the game.

[@pixeldimond]

What the actual f lol

[@lucaskp16]

My friends dad is a genuine iron 4. He mains garen mid and volibear support... he has like 2 m mastery on garen yet still manages to lose every lane

[@coducoke4548]

"even if you do well in jungle you will still get reported" to do the worst possible you "want to play solo lanes" as a jungle main I can confirm.

[@rustygear447]

As a jungle main, this is fact.

[@DarkChaos1986]

I played a 17/3/12 game as a Vi jungler a week ago, we lose because every other teammember was dogshit and the top laner was solely dedicate to feed the enemy team. Received a chat restriction because apparently my entire team reported me.

[@bobbarker399]

@@DarkChaos1986 yes okay but I guess you wrote some shit in chat and with the help of reports you got the restriction. Pretty sure you can't get restricted if you don't type anything related to insults or toxicity, not sure tho

[@DarkChaos1986]

@@bobbarker399 if you are trying to win a game that your team is actively throwing away, I'd like you to contemplate how many times you can observe that story completely stoic? Of course that I flamed that top laner for inting, but being the only player trying to win this game should not be taken into account? I died less, killed more and defended more than anyone in that sad joke of a game. And just because they are probably playing in team, they can get away with inting and throwing games?

[@bobbarker399]

@@DarkChaos1986 Yes, I know it’s shit and unfair af... But I just wanted to know if you actually didn’t type anything reportable…so yeah thanks for your answer and gl in future games

[@gerdfernandez]

I am dogshit in this game and stuck in Iron not knowing its worth hundred of dollars lmao

[@deciphree9192]

if you watch a single iron match, youll understand why riot never bans the 0/10 yasuo in your team

[@williamzhang153]

Damn, I never saw it like that

[@vencelfoldi8236]

I have trouble deciding whether this elo tanking service is more impressive from the supply side, or more sad from the demand side.

[@jak11d6]

Implement "Vote to Kick". Either boot the champion outright or have a intermediate bot take over. At least in this scenario the team with the de-booster has a chance. No more feeding that top lane.

[@eerfmod]

Yeah, sometimes you have a better chance 4v5 then with that one person that feeds 15+ kills and maybe 2 kills.

[@munteb6133]

so the person having a bad game will get forced to leave? XD

[@comeandlookupontheheart.3397]

@@munteb6133good old cs:go matchmaking strats lmao

[@Mhmmz]

That’s a terrible idea in any elo above bronze 5 they’ll just abuse the bot 🤦🏾‍♂️😭

[@Mhmmz]

And league is toxic that kid that went 0/5 and jus having it rough will for sure get kicked

[@alberiodonvincent3401]

This goes out to tell you how bad Smurfing in Competitive video games are nowadays. Everything is Inorganic

[@KevinTheCardigan]

The main culprit is the ban system.

[@xifily1957]

I managed to hit Iron 4 0 lp with 5 losses in a row in preseason alone. I was + 6-8 lp when i started trying for win. Didnt get a single ban and was sitting on a 15% winrate after somewhere around 60-80 games. Now im 65 - 0 after season start, But stopped playing due to other priorities

[@HandlesL]

I love how no matter where you go, every single league video (thats not a straight stream vod) will always have a clip of Tyler1 in it somewhere

[@chadashley1163]

it took me 856 games or 576 hours to get from Iron 2 0 LP to Gold 4 29 LP, the amount of suffering and madness throughout those months of pain

[@Chiga59rus]

I have never had an issue losing games. Still in Iron for the last 1,5 years. Account is not for sale...yet! xD

[@TheRondoallstar9]

Bruh I wanted to get good and I deranked from bronze 4 to iron and kept losing until I was 1 game off iron 4. Yesterday I climbed to bronze 4 finally and I just saw this video. You made it sound hard but I was actually trying to be good at the game and ended up in iron 3

[@gergelybecsei6833]

You are a pro for almost hitting Iron4

[@bobdole7292]

It is hard. The title is misleading. And so is some of what he says. Getting to iron is extremely easy. The hard part is that the people who buy the iron accounts need the MMR to be so low that they can go on 100+ game win streaks and still have iron MMR ( because if the MMR went up as it normally does with lots of wins the people would hit a point where their skill isn’t high enough to keep climbing- they wouldn’t be able to continue the win streak because they’re playing better players ) To get around that problem the people who sell the iron account have to lose hundreds and hundreds of games to drive the MMR down so much that even winning 100+ games won’t impact the quality of players. The MMR is so low that after 100 wins you’re still playing iron level players. This cannot be done with botting. The deboosters would get reported so many times in just a handful of games their account would be banned. Let alone hundreds of games. The only way to deboost like this is *manually* A real human has to actually appear to be trying to play properly and putting in effort but still lose the game. Imagine having to do that for hundreds of games. The time that would take. And keep in mind if your win % gets too low it can be problematic, so you have to try to keep it around 30%, as he says in video. That means all the time you’re wasting losing games while trying to appear as if you’re doing your best and not sabotaging the team is only worth anything for 2/3 games. The 3rd game is a complete waste of time, as you have to then intentionally win a game so that your win % doesn’t drop too low (or it will be obvious you’re deboosting and your account will get banned ) If you understood that you understand you’re talking about someone spending potentially 300+ *hours* to create one of these deboosted accounts. That’s if the games are 30 minutes. It could be worse. Some iron games drag on for an hour because no one knows what they’re doing. A random bad player’s account in iron isn’t worth anything 99% of the time. They win a game lose a game win lose win lose. Their MMR is fairly normal in that if they go on a streak they’ll climb

[@ravenoushydra7948]

@@bobdole7292 getting iron is easy, but iron 4 on its own is pretty hard, regardless of MMR.

[@matthewnegre8736]

Me, hardstuck Iron 4 for 3 seasons: Ah, yes. Totally intentional.

[@Noadvantage246]

This is so true, I tired to de rank an account once just for fun to see what iron 4 was like and it's VERY hard getting that low. At about bronze 3 it's really a toss up if you win or lose even when trying to lose. Everyone in the game is so bad all it takes is one decent player on your team and they can carry. Even when you're helping the enemy as much as possible without being sus there's a good chance they just throw anyways.

[@JrKengu]

and this is why the "ff15" mentality is HILLARIOUS and RIDICULOUS at the same time in these elos. When trying to win a game below diamond you should NEVER EVER surrender because everyone is sooooooo fycking trash that the enemy can and they WILL throw their lead 80% of the time.

[@FlexPaste]

it's a flipcoin trying to derank at this point, I've tried it too and got banned for two weeks instead but I was doing it with a friend so the enemy team was in a 3v5 situation and they still lost most of the times... 😅 yeah, I never reached Iron !

[@engelalex13]

It's easier if you do it on the first day or 2 of ranked speaking from personal expirence (have 6 accounts in iron 2 in i4 lul) everyone's usually getting sweaty tryharding to win placements on their mains so there's usually less actual surf accounts being played the first few days. In 2019 I actually managed to place the 4th worst account in NA only 1 bot lane duo with racist names and a random teemo otp beat me to i4

[@Noadvantage246]

@@FlexPaste Exactly enemy team is so bad you litterally can't stack the odds in their favor enough to make them win. Its almost worse if you try to feed them because then quickly get cocky and start doing crazy shit feeding and giving free shutdowns. I can firmly say it takes more strategy and macro to get to Iron 4 than it does to get to Plat 1. You truly have to be uniquely bad, AND be very unlucky, AND play a shit ton of games

[@codercommand]

Weird in my games all I need is one bad player on my team and I've lost the game. I'm a decent player, usually win my lanes, and I'm really good at team fights. I don't understand it. The average skill level of my team is often lower than the enemies, so I have these huge loose streaks and I can't do much even when I'm fed because the team diff is so large.

[@n9ne.n9ne.n9ne]

it takes 1-2 weeks of straight grinding to get into iron ik because i did a derank run from gold to iron… if you steal XP, Gold, Camps itll make it so your team cant 4v5. Some games are impossible to lose though lol like the games down in iron/bronze are so bad its funny but also the que times suck like 5-15 mins…

[@metalskeloman]

Iron is the perfect training grounds to fight & train , when you get a concept down you can see the effectiveness, also 4v5's are fun to win when a teammate AFK 's, and also see off meta builds be used correctly or incorrectly , the list goes on & on, pretty much league ranked is more fun in Iron, while professional play is usually won by the analysts during champ select , & then all it goes down to is a maybe %15 chance the countered team outplays with mechanics & map positioning & you would call that an upset

[@daringdarius5686]

"Their playstyle is so unique, that normal human beings need to try hard, to be as dog shit as they are" I really felt that. So, I'm not putting this out there, but one of my friends plays for a "rival" Universities League team... The guy was streaming their scrims against our actual rivals (we have a 45% win rate against them) and this team is, uhh, Grandmaster, Master, and 3 diamonds (D1, D3, D4). My friend joined this University (which is fairly prestigious, I don't want to give away who they are) and joined the team as a high elo Plat/low elo Diamond player. They immediately recognized him to be a very good player and asked him to be the Team leader. He then got his other friend (a friend of mine as well) from my School to sign on as the coach as he cannot officially play (he is a D4 player for 4 seasons now, he plays to diamond and then stops). The internal screaming I could hear, I did not realize how bad the team was... It's an Iron 2, Bronze 4, Bronze 1, Silver 2 and HIM. They actually managed to lose, in an official scrim, to another University's team in 11 minutes. The Jungler decided to first purchase TEAR on Hecarim and a longsword. NOT SHEEN. I'm an ex-Jungle OTP, who just so happened who used to run Hecarim as one of my ranked 1v9 hypercarries, and I was internally screaming. Good news is, the team itself is actually amazing, supportive, and have amazing comms... They are all just technically dog shit level players.

[@why_is_da_heavy_dead]

Muramana Hecarim is actually his best build right now.

[@skoodlemoose]

i watched a team lose under 10 minutes, firs therald spawned and enemy team just ended with it, they were playing stuff like ziggs/trist and other tower pushers and just walked it down mid and ended

[@bilaldemir8712]

You talked so much for this little relevant information

[@redrevenger]

@@bilaldemir8712 i want my reading time back!

[@YWNBAW69]

no one asked thiugh

[@abdallahreda1]

i had a draven and his duo thresh on one of my games and they were so fuckin good that draven scored a total of 74 kills in that game so i went to his match history and found that he was on a win streak for so many games in a row, i went deeper to investigate this player and i found him last season with his duo on a lose streak till they reached iron 4 so i wondered why would someone do something like this and now i know why, they wanted to get rank 1 draven and rank 1 thresh and they actually did it :D

[@adamward9423]

Im an iron 4 ekko support main this hurts me soul

[@spawqs]

i am now so proud of myself that i genuinely managed to place iron 2 in season 12 lol

[@Erik-pu4mj]

This was... fascinating and comedic. What a world we live in.

[@Heathcliff_1600]

I’m iron 2, 19LP. My KDA is 1.6/8.8/3.2. I average around 3 something CS a minute. League is a hard game to learn!

[@shenwoo666hellbrawl]

I now have to live with the dreadful thought that from now on, whenever I get into game, there may be an elo debooster actively trying to "fix" the game. I legit got hit at an existential level lol

[@tweedle634]

Having broken free from the addictive clutches of this game I have to say watching content on it is actually enjoyable. Before it would just make me want to play again and relapse. Stay strong recovering addicts.

[@xael-the-artist7708]

I remember trying to not play this fucking game as a teenager after quitting (season 5-6), the hardest part is the beginning. And tbh I really couldn't bring myself to play anymore due to the radical changes one season can have

[@warkah7557]

Just play Wild Rift if you feel the itch. But WR Diamond = PC Gold though.

[@tweedle634]

@@warkah7557 MAAAAAN i dont waste my time with ANYTHING riot anymore period. Once i broke the addiction i have 0 cravings.

[@orangu]

I was genuinely hardstuck Iron 4 for a while, every time i played, the queue was at least 6-7 minutes, and I always recognized at least 3-4 players I plat recently

[@francogonz]

Nice bro 💪

[@AsianRailgun]

I remember back in the day, seeing someone in Bronze 5 was impressive.

[@alefrichard7859]

Things is: You carry a lot = you get worse teams. You lose a lot? You get better teammates, that's why it's hard to get so low elo.

[@reinier5355]

9:20 is when he explains why you clicked on this video.

[@MacDaniboi]

A few years ago I tried to learn jungle and I made a new account for it, it got placed in iron 1, so I tried to get it as low as I could, but it was actually really hard to lose games, my strategy was to play hard carries, get myself way ahead of everyone else and then go full PvE

[@FNCMontragor]

Of course the one who knows how to lose has a French accent xD

[@mammanomaly]

As a player who was hardstuck iron with silver mmr it was hell clawing my way out of iron last season, i started at bronze 4 this season and now im silver 2 riot gave me neanderthal teammates and gave enemy team all the smurfs or account buyers when i was in iron

[@tommyhubbard342]

If you're below emerald, YOURE the neanderthal teammate

[@mammanomaly]

@@tommyhubbard342 idk man i'd say i'm doing pretty well for someone who hasn't played for a 10 years and im actually improving, i say i'm at least gold 4 level but by the gods my team always gets gapped hard by smurfs on enemy team

[@s0000ak]

I made three accounts in iron 4 and I'll tell you it's extremely difficult- the strategy he describes is kinda right; it took me 6 years to master it

[@jackhoule6388]

Where can i sell the accounts?

[@landenheine7645]

My main is iron 3, lol I'm the real master

[@landenheine7645]

And I don't purposely lose games

[@BaBammX]

I disagree with some of the points made in this video. I bought a botted level 30 account 2 years ago, it got placed in bronze 4. From there I lost about 70 games in a row with support Anivia Trundle and Nunu. Griefing as obvious as you can make it. Walling people off so they die in jungle pathways, interrupting the teleport of your own team members etc. I had not won a single game by the time I hit iron 4 and nothing happened to the account.

[@Skyler827]

You remember how he said the ban system only got better recently? He clearly implied it was broken in the past. Try inting like that now, for 70 games, you will get banned.

[@Red-yb8qp]

@@Skyler827 nah

[@Magyar_Huszar]

@@Skyler827 the ban System is still a joke xD. Yes it got a bit better in the sense that you can't litterally run it down anymore. But having a 5% win rate with an average kda of 3/12 is still not bannable since those are my Stats this season with 30 games played.

[@joshbignell8891]

@@Skyler827 its still broken. the only thing people get banned for these days is by offending multiple people in chat. run it down mid 100 games in a row and youll be fine as long as you dont type

[@AgentYellowWang]

@@Magyar_Huszar it bronze and iron why do riot ban mentality disable people?

[@JThompson_VI]

When I first played league as a kid I picked smite because I thought it did 500 damage to champions. I get why people end up stuck in iron haha

[@tyrellgordondover3553]

thats just a beginner mistake, prollu get bronze but iron takes Alot of non skill XD

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

I think everyone goes through that when they are brand new without someone to teach them. Smite used to be alot less descriptive in the text back in the day.

[@joseluisvargas8234]

Damn my brother and I have been playing since 2013 on and off and he’s hard stuck a iron 4 haha ima give him props now instead of being mean