Donner B1: A 303-style analog synth for $130!

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David Hilowitz Music

David Hilowitz Music

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@anonanon3545
@anonanon3545 2 жыл бұрын
We are truly in a golden era of affordable synth/electronic music gear. I am all for it!
@aquamarine99911
@aquamarine99911 9 ай бұрын
Hah, now my studio is a weird mix of 90s synths and modules bought back in the day, and a new bunch of Behringer (and now Donner) gear.
@ChrisLeeW00
@ChrisLeeW00 2 жыл бұрын
I love Donner, they really fill a market need. I want to play instruments, but not spend a fortune, and mainly just as a hobby. Casio used to be king of that.
@auxlen
@auxlen 2 жыл бұрын
Loved all my casios..affordable and fun.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 2 жыл бұрын
The Behringer TD-3 is a similar product in this price range. It's sometimes on sale for real cheap. I've even seen it for less than $100. The Donner B1 looks more modern and playable, while the TD-3 is closer to the TB-303 in look and feel.
@ireadysucks3026
@ireadysucks3026 2 жыл бұрын
Got a Donner practice pad once. their really just “you get what you pay for”
@DominicJacksonFilm
@DominicJacksonFilm 2 жыл бұрын
Beringer have been doing this for a while already
@lescobrandon8045
@lescobrandon8045 2 жыл бұрын
Correction, Casios sold in department stores are affordable, my Casio cost $599.00. In honor of full disclosure it's a workstation, not a Casiotone.
@HolloVVpoint
@HolloVVpoint 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know about any of these instruments, or how I ended up here. However David does such a good job describing the instruments and their uses, managing to make it interesting and educational that I can’t help but watch!
@TheMisterNebo
@TheMisterNebo 2 жыл бұрын
@hollovvpoint same!
@jebimasta4604
@jebimasta4604 2 жыл бұрын
With you there buddy! Algorithm done good, not a musician, love the content haha
@highdesertbiker
@highdesertbiker 2 жыл бұрын
Dude! that's exactly what I was thinking haha. the editing is AMAZING
@AlexsaurusRex
@AlexsaurusRex 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a musician and I want one.
@ChillSeaGoat
@ChillSeaGoat 2 жыл бұрын
Yup exactly
@theshuriken
@theshuriken 2 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up for Donner from Kebab to Synthesizer! such a great achievement and journey! 👍
@redwarf8118
@redwarf8118 2 жыл бұрын
Donner means Thunder in german
@deutscherkamerad3675
@deutscherkamerad3675 2 жыл бұрын
@@redwarf8118 die meinen bestimmt Döner haha
@redwarf8118
@redwarf8118 2 жыл бұрын
@@deutscherkamerad3675Ja, die amis können ja keine Aussprache.
@deutscherkamerad3675
@deutscherkamerad3675 2 жыл бұрын
@@redwarf8118 die können nix haha
@theshuriken
@theshuriken 2 жыл бұрын
@@deutscherkamerad3675 Es ist offensichtlich nur ein Witz, Kumpel
@rodmorrison47
@rodmorrison47 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this. Whether or not you're after a 303-alike this just looks like a really good, basic analogue monosynth at an excellent price and the two octave keyboard should open it up to those who can't quite get used to the 303 way of working. I think I want one.
@jonnyreverb
@jonnyreverb 2 жыл бұрын
This thing really wants to do the theme to Stranger Things... It's like watching the "DVD" logo almost hit the corner of the TV over and over.
@paradox9551
@paradox9551 2 жыл бұрын
That theme is just a very basic major chord arpeggio, haha
@emanuel3617
@emanuel3617 2 жыл бұрын
Now I know, it's there, but not there ugh 😩
@kcfreeman3021
@kcfreeman3021 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a jazz emu reference 🤣🤣🤣
@mothbox20
@mothbox20 2 жыл бұрын
You killed me with the DVD logo bit! 😅🤣
@baltimoreluke
@baltimoreluke 2 жыл бұрын
several different synths were used for the Stranger Things theme including the Roland SH-2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/onrVc4Sfop2XsM0
@dopesoup420
@dopesoup420 2 жыл бұрын
So far this is the best video. Most people I've seen get these for review don't even know what a 303 clone is....
@NickRatRadio
@NickRatRadio 2 жыл бұрын
this synth created a ton of garbage non stories up form a day before release till now!
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats on purpose. It's a REALLY crappy clone, but kinda decent in its own right imho.
@dynjarren8355
@dynjarren8355 2 жыл бұрын
Synths are a lot of fun to play around with. But I don’t want to spend alot of money on one. It sounds pretty good! Thanks for demonstrating!
@cokfenasiadanaliadanali7675
@cokfenasiadanaliadanali7675 2 жыл бұрын
yea specially when you have a computer with a cpu... not really need to spend on
@nathanstein589
@nathanstein589 2 жыл бұрын
@@cokfenasiadanaliadanali7675 That’s not analogue…
@PeterKudelin
@PeterKudelin 2 жыл бұрын
@@cokfenasiadanaliadanali7675 you don't really get it do ya :)
@cherrypepsi2815
@cherrypepsi2815 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeterKudelin go easy on him, he always had to spend so much time spelling his name that he could never focus in class
@kyletek3512
@kyletek3512 2 жыл бұрын
A solid review David. This sounds nice! For the interface it's kind of like a bridge between the TB-3 and TB-303. I quite like the TB-3 sequencer so it's nice to see the B1 encourage AIRA navigation. Regarding the JSON sequencing - this is fantastic! I'm so glad to see a sequencer move into other formats. I'm sure with some nice scripting you could create some amazing endless ambient sets.
@SisterRose
@SisterRose 2 жыл бұрын
I do wish they'd put in a sub osc though, a lot of good 303 clones/mods tend to have that - it means you can use it as an actual bass Synth while still getting those squelches. I would have put that in over the delay
@DavidHilowitzMusic
@DavidHilowitzMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, that would be helpful!
@tdzucker
@tdzucker 2 жыл бұрын
I would prefer CV in/out, which could turn this into an integral part of any setup, let me patch in my own sub, delay, etc!
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 жыл бұрын
@@tdzucker but wouldn't that be a Behringer TD3?...😏
@tdzucker
@tdzucker 2 жыл бұрын
@@BendApparatus yea but tbh I take pride in the instruments I own, except for Berhinger. I like their products and bought two secondhand, I think they do the job, but I take no pride in ownership
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 жыл бұрын
@@tdzucker understandable. Though I don't particularly hold any pride in material things. And to me they're all faceless corps... I get things based on my affinity for it. If I'm really interested in it... I'll gladly pay a premium for a particular brand... If I'm just mildly interested, I don't mind picking up the cheapest option. You're correct the td3 gets the job done. The tb3 on the other hand is pretty funny... it's like a cartoon version of what people perceive the O.G 303 to be...part of me wonders if this was intentional on Roland's part.
@EpsteezyFoSheezy
@EpsteezyFoSheezy 2 жыл бұрын
I had been eagerly awaiting demos of this! Very cool to see so many quality 303 clones on the market at such low prices.
@judsonsnell
@judsonsnell 2 жыл бұрын
A CV output would make this so insanely awesome. Of course, back in the mid-90's when a beat-to-crap TB303 would fetch thousands (the same ones sitting in pawn shops for $25 ten years prior) for under $200 would have been insane. I might get one just to relive the rave daze anyway.
@CT-ho6si
@CT-ho6si 2 жыл бұрын
303's were a few hundred bucks in the mid 90s, where did you see them for thousands?
@judsonsnell
@judsonsnell 2 жыл бұрын
@@CT-ho6si Mid 90's yes. But by the late 90's when every producer wanted to be Josh Wink? Yes, well over $1000 easily.
@leftmono1016
@leftmono1016 2 жыл бұрын
@@CT-ho6si - think I got mine around 1998 for £700. Box plus carry case and even had Roland batteries in it. Back in those days you had to work out how to program it by yourself. Loved it.
@bashful228
@bashful228 Жыл бұрын
It has MIDI in and out. You could get a two way MIDI2CV converter. Or build your own for $10!
@Carpenter0102
@Carpenter0102 10 ай бұрын
An og 303 will cost you 3k now mate
@Kipa12312
@Kipa12312 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is actually really neat! I love the 303 sound, so seeing these priced so affordably really makes me want to get one to mess around with.
@CmdrMic
@CmdrMic Жыл бұрын
I've had mine for months now and really love it! Sounds awesome. More slick and dope to jam on than my Beringer TD-3. Smaller, better build quality also. I am praying they do a sampler!
@hadamana
@hadamana 2 жыл бұрын
This is the only affialate link I have ever used. Not for any particular reason. Normally I just need to do more research, and by the time I make my decision, I'm already 100 clicks away from whatever video had the link. This video actually answered all of the questions I would have had, and the affiliate link (and DavidH code) were right there, waiting for me! This video was informative and not drawn-out excessively. I appreciate both of those things
@MrUglyStupid
@MrUglyStupid 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how just being genuine and concise will almost always be a better sales tactic than all of the fanciest social engineering and marketing techniques
@hadamana
@hadamana 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrUglyStupid that's truth,Sir
@TheZombo66
@TheZombo66 2 жыл бұрын
Guys finally in stock !! purchased it!!! used David's code excellent discount, thank you!!!
@prokesuk
@prokesuk 2 жыл бұрын
Oscar Peterson was very much into synthesizers. In a Keyboard magazine interview, he talked about reading manuals for synths he didn't own. He seemed to just enjoy it.
@xskailer7131
@xskailer7131 2 жыл бұрын
Just found out it is available again on Donner's website
@TROGULAR10000
@TROGULAR10000 2 жыл бұрын
It's cool, great price, way more interesting than a 303 or other clones. But for 50 dollars more it could have had live record unquantized, reverb, and automation. And it would have been nice if we started on the A under that C, which comes in handy
@rorz999
@rorz999 2 жыл бұрын
Unquantised has never been part of the 303 workflow/sound, and I'd rather use an external reverb and keep costs down, as opposed to a built-in one which probably wouldn't be very good anyway
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the architecture is quite different, but better. You couldn't really 'play' the 303 like a keyboard, but the keys were used for programming sequences. This goes for the Behringer clone as well. Having a playable keyboard on this alone makes it much better IMO. Also, neither the original nor the Behringer have a delay built in.
@rodmorrison47
@rodmorrison47 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Also, while the distortion on the Behringer is a useful addition and does sound pretty good it can be hard to balance the clean and distorted sounds. I prefer to use an old stompbox and compressor for a more balanced transition between clean and distorted. I think a delay or reverb would have been a better option - and this has got it.
@danzigrulze5211
@danzigrulze5211 2 жыл бұрын
When you switched it to square wave, I almost heard the Stranger Things intro for a second. I think that is the one good thing about the show, it introduces a huge new audience to old and current EDM, 80's synth, and New Retro music all across the board. One episode has a segment where they just started playing a Perturbator song that really fit the scene.
@happygilmore2100
@happygilmore2100 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I heard the same.
@r3dsnow757
@r3dsnow757 2 жыл бұрын
the stranger things arp synth is literally a stock ableton one if i'm not mistaken.
@ClicStudio
@ClicStudio 2 жыл бұрын
@@r3dsnow757 Actually they used an hardware synth and played the arpeggio themselves in, didn’t use an arp but in the end it’s the same result xd
@johnimg
@johnimg 2 жыл бұрын
so we have a Kebab in Europe ( Kepap) called Donner , i love it with chilli sausce !
@guser7137
@guser7137 2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh 🤔
@NutritionalZero
@NutritionalZero 2 жыл бұрын
This is one donner that won’t give you food poisoning.
@djvane1619
@djvane1619 2 жыл бұрын
Its döner... not donner
@dominicstocker5144
@dominicstocker5144 2 жыл бұрын
Döner
@RandyReeTV
@RandyReeTV 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that's right. Turkish Donner hahaha funny
@brutallyremastered4255
@brutallyremastered4255 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid-most informative. Really missing a “down home” cup of coffee and or selection of twee and infantile objects on your Synth test desk, though.
@spookypen
@spookypen 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm the only person on the planet who prefers the original sequencer where the pitch and time programming is separated. I can see this appealing to people over the Behringer for that reason.
@kyle4345
@kyle4345 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like this synth is in an odd place being priced between a td3 and the td3-MO while not being as close to the original as a td3 and lacking a lot less features as the MO. Seems like this is only for Uli haters (which is probably a large enough market). Wish it had something that distinguished it from others, maybe being able to blend waveforms or some added 'gritty' waveforms or a sub oscillator and a FM knob would make this stand out a bit more.
@claypf4795
@claypf4795 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a Cool Audio IC in that box providing the sound. I think it looks a lot more sleek and has a cleaner look than the other 303 knockoffs. They may sell some units on that alone.
@rars0n
@rars0n 2 жыл бұрын
The very first thing I noticed is that it's got two octaves instead of just one. That might be useful to some people. But I agree with you, I'd rather get a TD-3 than one of these, especially because they're routinely available for less than $100.
@RANDOMLOOPGENERATOR
@RANDOMLOOPGENERATOR 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the Sonicware Liven Bass & Beats, you may want to check that out, very interesting Wavetable Bass Synth and Drum Machine with fantastic sequencing and in-depth editing, £200.
@rars0n
@rars0n 2 жыл бұрын
@@RANDOMLOOPGENERATOR Sonicware's stuff is very interesting and very reasonably priced IMO. I'm not familiar with the Bass & Beats, I'll have to check that out.
@kyle4345
@kyle4345 2 жыл бұрын
@@rars0n They're a little name but making a big splash, at least for affordable synths. The bass n beats looks solid but I am torn between that and the XFM as both are impressive for the price. But since I already need a TD3MO and had my heart set on a Proton I think I might just take a step back and think about how far I want to go down this rabbit hole lol...
@DragonGrafx-16
@DragonGrafx-16 2 жыл бұрын
Acidhead here... 90% of the time I have the accent on MAX lol Though I use 2 TD-3s (I fall into the camp of loving the 303 sequencer which the TD-3 works the same exact way) as well as a TB-3, which is easier to program but doesn't sound as good.
@YouGuysAreAmazing
@YouGuysAreAmazing 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Love the flow of your vids and how you make it all seem intuitively easy. This def makes me want to play around with the synth!
@The_Other_Dan
@The_Other_Dan 2 жыл бұрын
If they come out with a version of the TR-808 I'd be all over it =)
@PocketOperatorGuy
@PocketOperatorGuy 2 жыл бұрын
That's a nice piece of machinery. It captures most of the acid house nostalgia. It kinda warms a part of my heart hearing this warm machine play. Good video. Very nice and informative review.
@scootergrant8683
@scootergrant8683 2 жыл бұрын
some of those sounds were very reminiscent of early 2000s game trailers.
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you're the first person to feature this! I don't think anyone else has. Nice video, David, as always!
@boriscat1999
@boriscat1999 2 жыл бұрын
It's tough to like the Donner B1 when the TD-3 costs less and has CV/gate out. And the Cyclone Analogic TT-303 Mk2 is only a little more expensive has CV/gate/accent out. The workflow on the donner is an improvement on the original TB-303 and TD-3, but maybe no better than a TT-303. (although different)
@xfghffhfg
@xfghffhfg 2 жыл бұрын
the TT-303 sequencer is really great, its really easy to use and offers way more than the most expensive clones.
@leftmono1016
@leftmono1016 2 жыл бұрын
@@xfghffhfg - exactly this. I was really impressed by the sequencer options on the TT. Takes it into a different league imho.
@CaidicusProductions
@CaidicusProductions 2 жыл бұрын
How did I JUST find out about this channel? You're a fantastic presenter!
@CaidicusProductions
@CaidicusProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Man, what an awesome presentation. I greatly appreciated your video and think you did an awesome job of showing us what this synth can do, as well as how much of a fantastic deal it happens to be. Well done Donner, you've made a heck of a synth for a really quite unbelievably low price.
@mediaphile
@mediaphile 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good for the price, but I'll stick with my Volca NuBass. The sound of the NuBass isn't identical to a 303, but I still really like it, and I think the design is a lot better than the B1. It is nice that there's distortion built in on the B1, though.
@krytenfivetwothreep2485
@krytenfivetwothreep2485 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I'd think about getting this if I didn't already have a NuBass
@rorz999
@rorz999 2 жыл бұрын
The NuBass is so underrated, it's insane
@JoshuaPickenpaugh
@JoshuaPickenpaugh 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one, thanks for the discount code David!
@jammin023
@jammin023 2 жыл бұрын
Delay is one of the cornerstones of good acid, so it's great to see it built in, but it doesn't seem like a very useful implementation. It's a little hard to tell from this video but it sounds like it's not tempo-synced, which would be a tragedy. One of the main reasons to build a delay into a machine like this is it would be easy to make it tempo-synced, and there don't seem to be many inexpensive options for doing that in an external unit. Design-wise, it looks nice, but that grid of identical buttons on the right with hard-to-read labels is a poor choice for usability in a darkened room.
@Chief12314
@Chief12314 2 жыл бұрын
I have no clue what 303-sytle or analog mean for synths, but it sounds cool and it was in my recommended for some reason.
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a decent product. I think I would choose this over Behringer's TD-3 because of the mmore convenient sequencer and built-in delay. But I already own a TD-3, and I don't see enough of a benefit to make a change.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 2 жыл бұрын
Change? It's fun to have more than one 303 running at the same time. I can't have enough different TB-303 clones. They all sound slightly different.
@maiastniki
@maiastniki 2 жыл бұрын
@@Engineeer Good idea
@paulyearley1084
@paulyearley1084 2 жыл бұрын
I already have a TD-3 and this is still a tempting piece of gear. As much as I love the sound of the TD-3, the worst thing about it is that Berhinger copied the garbage UI and workflow of the original so closely. It was a failure because it's kind of a nightmare to actually use - at least the modern clones have MIDI support.
@Si_G
@Si_G 2 жыл бұрын
I struggle with the sequencer of the TD3 so it doesn’t get used.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Si_G Sad. It takes practice, though. It's difficult to program it precisely, but you will encounter happy accidents.
@fluffycritter
@fluffycritter 2 жыл бұрын
I ended up buying one (along with a drum kit which I've been meaning to get from them for a while) and this is a lot of fun! Would you happen to know where to download the manual, though? The download link on the site currently goes directly to the software.
@Sesaon3
@Sesaon3 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at those eBay prices makes me regret selling my 303 and 606. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Great video David ... shame you can't MIDI automate .. that would have been the icing on the cake. Oh and the note selection looked a little clunky tapping 16 times to get to note 16.
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that how it was on the O.G?
@Sesaon3
@Sesaon3 2 жыл бұрын
@@BendApparatus My memory is not good enough to answer that! There is mimicking and there is torture ;-)
@BendApparatus
@BendApparatus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sesaon3 lol that's exactly what it turned out to be, torture... Once Behringer's clone hit the market just about everyone that didn't previously own (but fantasized about owning) the O.G. realized the ui/workflow on the original was miserable...lol Behringer went hardcore, only allowing the original sequencer workflow on the front panel (with those wonderful old school click/clack buttons)...BUT allowing you to use a modern xox workflow through the editor (among many other features). At least they put a randomizer on the front panel...lol Even Roland allowed BOTH workflows on their digital clone because they knew how miserable the O.G was... They feared low sales with only the O.G workflow...
@Sesaon3
@Sesaon3 2 жыл бұрын
@@BendApparatus Let's hope they can fix it in an update.
@PeterKNoone
@PeterKNoone 2 жыл бұрын
My first time seeing one of your videos......and I bought one as an affordable way to once again to attempt to goof around with electronic music. Subscribed.
@Migh7yb00sh
@Migh7yb00sh 11 ай бұрын
Just got mine on order, with current pricing and a discount, $104 shipped. Can’t wait!
@automationtraveler
@automationtraveler 2 жыл бұрын
The sequencer is awesome
@aquamarine99911
@aquamarine99911 9 ай бұрын
It was so damn cheap a few months ago, I had to pick it up. But knowing nothing about Donner, I assumed it would be a piece of crap, and haven't even bothered to unbox it. But this video really consoles and inspires me. $150 for such a classic, identifiable sound is amazing. Thanks!
@MichaelCoughlanmusic
@MichaelCoughlanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome product, awesome video. I am a rock n roller myself but really dug what Devo did to marry rock and synth back with their debut record. As a back line audio tech I used to really enjoy checking the functionality of the synths we'd rent before bookings - Korgs, Roland's, and Moogs. We even had Taurus pedals. I am pleased this tradition is being kept alive with such a value-centric unit like Donner's.
@Robert_Browne
@Robert_Browne 10 ай бұрын
I've been looking at drum and bass synths for weeks. A minute in and I grabbed one from Amazon. For that price, it'll show me what I need and want in the next one.
@thepoofster2251
@thepoofster2251 10 ай бұрын
Just bought this with your discount code. Thanks for saving me 17$ and thanks for letting me know this exists! You kick ass
@DEADRATCVLT
@DEADRATCVLT 2 жыл бұрын
8:27 im surprised u dont like how that sounds! that was my fave feature u played with mayb apart from slide 0.0
@piperofsimms
@piperofsimms 2 жыл бұрын
Well done David ! This is a steal for the bedroom musician. Thank you
@notanotherguitarchannel
@notanotherguitarchannel 8 ай бұрын
I like the idea of saving your midi information as text. I once used an Arduino to program midi tunes to play through my keyboard, and it was fun.
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille Жыл бұрын
How is it that no one talks about the aux in on this thing :O
@learnoldnewway4411
@learnoldnewway4411 2 жыл бұрын
I had fun watching and listening this 😌
@lumpyfishgravy
@lumpyfishgravy 2 жыл бұрын
JSON is perfect for version control like git or svn. Having it text means you can patch and merge more effectively than a binary blob.
@themexicanbob
@themexicanbob 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this thinking "oooh a 303 for $152!" I then realised I already own a TD-3. Still it looks a fun bit of kit.
@FurtiveSkeptical
@FurtiveSkeptical 2 жыл бұрын
Frantically tabbing to 10:04 ......Yes! MIDI in/out! Sold!
@FCASMRASR
@FCASMRASR 2 жыл бұрын
I like it - seems like a great techno add-on for us DJ/Producer types i can see that plugged into my mixer with its effects really adding a extra layer to my style |:) ty for this brilliant review David.
@TheyreStillOutThere
@TheyreStillOutThere 2 жыл бұрын
This popped up in my algorithm and I thoroughly enjoyed the presentation style. The mark of a good KZbinr to me is “can I watch them re-tile their bathroom and stay for the whole video?” If the answer is yes, I subscribe. Subscribed.
@larseikind666
@larseikind666 Жыл бұрын
I think it's good that synth producers also acknowledge the market that the guitar manufactorers have dug into. Cheap(er) good quality products create more musicians, and thus more revenue for everybody. And I don't think this little device would "steal" any customers from the Big Boys. It's just a nice way for a common person to learn about synthesizers without having to rob a bank. However, I do think the square wave sounds a bit too "triangely" for my taste, but whatever floats your boat.
@JoelMurphy77
@JoelMurphy77 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, former coworker. Bingeing a few of your videos today and rather enjoying myself.
@TheZombo66
@TheZombo66 2 жыл бұрын
Updates!! finally folks explaining to Donner about the inconvenience in transit and receiving it on July 8th!!! Thank Goodness!!! cheers!!! 👍😁👍🎹
@Robert-kx8mp
@Robert-kx8mp 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! This Donner Syn Bass looks interesting and if you hadn't featured it, I would never have known it existed. However, I love my Roland Cloud TB-303 vst, a lifetime key is $150, such a great sounding and productive vst instrument - instant acid. Not sure if I missed it in the review, but one of the key undocumented features of the original 303 hardware was how it would randomly populate the sequencer patterns when you replaced the battery (or so I'm told); I've discovered the random features on the Roland Cloud TB-303 are incredibly good for coming up with an acid groove and making tons of simple variations on the same groove, and you can drag the patterns into your daw as either midi clips or rendered audio; now I gotta admit someone gave me one of those behr 303 clones, but I much prefer the results I get working with the Roland Cloud TB-303.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 2 жыл бұрын
Roland's Cloud TB-303 is good. I havent used it myself, but I have the Aira TB-3 which is also based on ACB, As for the VST, I use ABL3 a lot. I thing they sell it for $100 and is regarded by many as the best sounding TB-303 VST.
@mimikova390
@mimikova390 2 жыл бұрын
with so my 303 clones. it does not really do it for me. But the slinky violin and the one with the reverb tank were wonderful.
@djjokerofficial
@djjokerofficial 2 жыл бұрын
2:47 Stranger Things wibe 🔥
@ActionlessLoveless
@ActionlessLoveless 2 жыл бұрын
i was a bit skeptical at the beginning (considering what td3 is twice cheaper) - but all in all it have few more different features which td3 (or td3mo for that matter) dont have - i'll consider it as an alternative to buying td3mo, thanks for your review
@bennymills_
@bennymills_ 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely love donner, got my bass from them for hella cheap and it's great!!! hope to see them go further into synth production
@niallmacdonald2710
@niallmacdonald2710 2 жыл бұрын
It'll be good when they don't only sell this through their American page. It appears to have not made it through to any of their EU outlet pages. Maybe later?
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 2 жыл бұрын
Donner came out with an analog synth??? wow, crazy!
@mister_syre
@mister_syre 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered mine via their Canadian site. 163$ CAD, with free shipping, is a hell of a deal!
@Anon-mk4ms
@Anon-mk4ms 8 ай бұрын
I have a Donner telecaster style guitar and it's actually a very nice instrument and gets a lot of play, it cost less than £65 brand new from Ebay and it's the first guitar that cheap that came with a gig bag and a string through body.... you almost never see string through bodies on budget guitars, it's always a top load bridge for those.
@joeguitar7164
@joeguitar7164 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a usable little synt. Would be nice if it was for purchase in the eu/uk stores. To bad it's not available there, can we expect it soon?
@__Jan___
@__Jan___ 2 жыл бұрын
I have this Behringer thing. But that is such a good design....
@daneguitarist1
@daneguitarist1 2 жыл бұрын
bro, love the videos that donner actually looks pretty sick! im probably going to pick one of those beasts up
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 2 жыл бұрын
Donner! On the radar!
@Nosoyunnombre
@Nosoyunnombre 4 ай бұрын
I loved this small minute of History! Amazing vid! ❤❤
@WARDISWARD
@WARDISWARD 2 жыл бұрын
03:30 Wrong. the decay controls the length of the filter envelope , NOT the decay of the notes
@matthewpublikum3114
@matthewpublikum3114 2 жыл бұрын
It's great they didn't go the traditional 303 look. Maybe a polyphonic version is next
@willswitchcraft
@willswitchcraft 2 жыл бұрын
So much more comprehensive than everything else I've watched about the B1.....but can you tell me more about the MIDI out?......does it function as a polyphonic, velocity sensitive MIDI controller......?
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 жыл бұрын
This is a REALLY impressive bit of kit for the price 👍
@dawnr8511
@dawnr8511 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone gave this synth a proper demo. Looking into buying one, but we are synth saturated right now. Maybe just for fun noodling on a rainy Saturday?
@monkey_breath
@monkey_breath 2 жыл бұрын
i like that the programming is similar, but a little less* clunky, also, adding a ratchet is the thing i'm actually super excited about, i have a few patches on my 303 that sprung to mind that would be cool to add some ratcheting to. also, onboard delay is cool, and then also the distortion sounds pretty nice, though, with all my pedals, the effects aren't as big of a deal, unless the aux in goes through the effects/filter, then, that could lead to some very interesting chaining.
@Engineeer
@Engineeer 2 жыл бұрын
I think its cool that they put distortion and delay into the 303, these days. These are the effect everybody uses. Less clutter on the table.
@monkey_breath
@monkey_breath 2 жыл бұрын
@@Engineeer yeah, less table clutter is good when you want to have a more clean workflow, but, a lot of the times, for me, it’s more about finding the right dostortion or delay, there’s a variety of them out there, and i like some of the weirder ones i have. That being said, i still do appreciate on-board effects and what they offer too, and like the idea that it has them built in so you don’t have to use them, but can if you want to without anything external.
@Skamanda
@Skamanda 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this synth, compared to the Behringer TD-3. The TD-3 is even cheaper, and seems a bit more authentic to the 303 experience (albeit with some interesting additions), but I'm too unskilled with it to understand whether or when the Donner or the Behringer shine over the other...
@BicheTordue
@BicheTordue Ай бұрын
1:49 maybe it's because i'm not old enough and wasn't there, but to me what is weird is the way it was marketed, a replacement for peoples ? you're trying to sell musician something thatt replace them ? and on top of that i have a hard time imagining that it was the original purpose, to me you have to be into music and tech to build something like that so they probably tried to experiment and jam with it, idk
@skaface1969
@skaface1969 2 жыл бұрын
Chicago Acid House, late '80s, came before Detroit coined Techno, early '90s. The Roland TB 303 is more synonymous with Acid House, although it made a comeback with Acid Techno some years later
@Alchemetica
@Alchemetica 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way musicians always suggest adding more controls/sounds/features/oscillators and interface connections while still thinking all of these additions won't change the price. Thanks for the informative review. OFC it raises the question which was often asked in the 1980s - should I buy this as it might become a classic. I purchased the TR606 back when it was released but not the bass unit, I think this unit would be a good match sound wise for my 606 without paying the going price for a 303.
@aethervagrant244
@aethervagrant244 2 жыл бұрын
yeah because there's no cheap 303 clones out there....
@boarderking133
@boarderking133 2 жыл бұрын
Should I buy this cuz it might be a classic? Noone should ask that.
@OttosTheName
@OttosTheName 2 жыл бұрын
The T-8 adds allll of the features. At barely any extra cost. And you can actually buy it outside the states.
@boarderking133
@boarderking133 2 жыл бұрын
@@OttosTheName my PC has all the features of every synth ever made.
@OttosTheName
@OttosTheName 2 жыл бұрын
The argument here is that features cost money. Yes your pc has more features, but is it under 200 bucks? I kinda doubt it.
@TheHamiltonRacing
@TheHamiltonRacing 2 жыл бұрын
It not yet available in UK!
@andrwwaugh
@andrwwaugh 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sequencer editor!
@andrwwaugh
@andrwwaugh 2 жыл бұрын
Love that it's just JSON for sequence data files opens it up for integration with other software editors if someone wanted to. Weird the knobs don't do CC Though it would encourage you to get more hands on with it
@mrdiggie3321
@mrdiggie3321 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the UI is MUCH better than what Behringer did. Good luck programming anything complex on the TB-3 without a laptop.
@paulyearley1084
@paulyearley1084 2 жыл бұрын
I entered a pattern manually (i.e., without the software) on my TD-3 once and I wanted to gouge my eyes out by the time I was done. It's so awful.
@NickRatRadio
@NickRatRadio 2 жыл бұрын
No polyphonic? Happy i went in a lil more for a microfreak.
@grav-x1430
@grav-x1430 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahh, i kinda want one now. i'm already hearing the 80's Synthwave playing in my head..
@lolocaust4967
@lolocaust4967 2 жыл бұрын
I love the styling of this synth. It looks gorgeous.
@michaels5166
@michaels5166 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much..I have been seeking a 88 key keyboard for years but didnt want to spend $3000+..This B1 will be in my house soon as well.
@LinkiePup
@LinkiePup 2 жыл бұрын
Genuinely love the weirdly organic sounds of the 303: when I can, I will 100% pick this puppy up.
@BosleyStarr
@BosleyStarr 2 жыл бұрын
Donner rocks, it'll be cool if they start making other synths.
@erc.erc.erc.
@erc.erc.erc. Жыл бұрын
Picked this up as my first hardware synth after playing with some midi controllers for months. Your video was a huge help in getting familiar with it. I am enjoying experimenting with it, but I will hit a wall soon I feel. I get a little frustrated when building shorter patterns, 4- and 8-steps for example. I think once you go past a step, there’s no way to clear out the rest of the 16 steps without inserting rests. So if I’m on an 8 step sequence and accidentally add a note to 9, whoops now you have a 9 step for the rest of that patterns life. No way to trim as far as I can tell. But no regrets. This is a very fun machine for someone who grew up listening to “techno”. “Everybody needs a 303”
@dmthandmade5674
@dmthandmade5674 2 жыл бұрын
These are Halcyon days for synth lovers (or even the mildy synth-curious) of modest means.
@weidnermusic
@weidnermusic 2 жыл бұрын
There is an old saying that goes : Do not use Behringer products ever unless you really have to. But there is an even more powerful saying that says "Do not even consider looking at a Donner product ever regardless of the immediate danger you're facing".
@AdrianGeorges
@AdrianGeorges Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Did not know this beauty before. Great tutorial with a nice voice.
@gayrambo4529
@gayrambo4529 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressed you got Roland from Big Black to make a cameo.
@nickhaldin8674
@nickhaldin8674 2 жыл бұрын
I want to like this but it looks extremely limited. Is there no attack control? For $150+ there are some very basic things missing. I say that the korg volca keys is head and shoulders above this for less money.
@DavidHilowitzMusic
@DavidHilowitzMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I have both and am inclined to agree.
@Robinripley
@Robinripley Жыл бұрын
I just bought mine based on this video. It's super fun and was legit worth it.
@DeFiSiYT
@DeFiSiYT 2 жыл бұрын
Cool! I've been thinking about a 303 lately... I'm kinda old school and love that Acid House sound! This looks like a very cost-effective option!
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