DoorDash - If I Don’t Tip, How Long Will It Take?!

[@SideGigGuy]

Based on feedback, I think it would be fun to do a “dash off”. Order from 10 restaurants, simultaneously. Put a tip on half, and no tip on the other half and see what happens. Thoughts?? And thanks for the engagement on the topic. We are obviously going to disagree, but I love hearing both sides. Thank you!!

[@MrsMathews]

Good explainer. While tipping culture (in general) has gotten way out of control, I always tip delivery folks. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t.

[@james-op9ep]

I use DD a lot, and I make sure to always tip, I think DD and most other food delivery services should just increase their actual delivery fee and give the increase to the drivers (and remove tips), this fee can be based on a distance to restaurant calculation or something. That way people don't have to rely on "tips" and customers can stop tipping based on a percentage as well which is silly in the delivery business.

[@SideGigGuy]

I definitely think pay transparency would help. Pay for the amount of time, and the amount of distance. Don’t rely on the customers tip as part of the pay.

[@charlesclaridy8646]

As Drivers: We Greatly Appreciate You and those like you. I order food on occasion and tip the way I would hope to be tipped. Thank You!

[@WhatsCookingTime]

They won't which is ridiculous I do it part-time along with Uber eats I'm good at picking my orders I make decent money. But any even small increase would not be enough

[@GrantTravels23]

DD should just offer $2 a mile and charge that as a flat fee. Add their $2 fee for them on top of that all as a mandatory fee. Take it or leave it. Dashers get their pay, customers almost always get their food on time. Everyone is happy.

[@bEtHeSdA_LAME_sTuDi0s]

They will never do that because their entire model relies on getting the trash delivered.

[@yamnjam]

I was looking at some screenshots from last December and the base pay back then was $4.25 or $4.50. Now it's $2 or $2.25, so they cut our pay in half. Peak pay is rarely offered and it's hard to make as much money. I have no idea who would purposely not tip even $1, I always tip when I get something delivered. There are good people out there though since I have had some who added to the tip after the order was completed. Thank you to all the good tippers!

[@musclerussell8109]

Who cares. Quit

[@Kris-ln1vt]

​@@musclerussell8109How damned rude of you!! BE careful...you order food and you never know what touches your food. ID**T!

[@Kris-ln1vt]

​@@musclerussell8109B**ARD HOW RUDE YOU ARE!!!! REMEMBER YOU EAT TOO! YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WL TOUCH YOUR FOOD! 😂😂😂

[@Kris-ln1vt]

Agreed! I would NEVER order food or anything for that matter, and not tip I'd be too embarrassed. It's been my experience that if someone says to leave the food at the door, they are usually not Tipping because they do not want to face you. I too work for Doordash and have noticed the base pay has been cut in half. When you add that on top of no this and the price of has has doubled under the fascist Biden regime, the side gig is no longer profitable and I'm wasting my energy and tearing up my car delivering for pennies so I've decided ots no longer worth it. Doordash still sends me text updates letting me know it's busy if I want to work but last time I worked I made less than 10 an hour just not worth it. Good luck and hope those GREEDY/STINGY People who don't tip get to feel what it's like when others EXPECT SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

[@Goldman_Bernstein]

Personally, I'm always tipping $5 when I order. I never have issues with delivery!

[@bencarter8423]

That is exactly why you don’t have any issues.

[@Goldman_Bernstein]

@@bencarter8423 right?

[@davidspiegel5159]

I don't take no tip orders period. That means I don't do challenges, I don't do streaks, and I'm very careful about stacks

[@crewtheaftermath4105]

Yeah right fn tipped before delivery and food gets leftoutside then stolen. Tipping before service is a ripoff when you drivers don't give a shit to actually deliver to the door and friking knock or ring bell. Fn joke employee.

[@Chgogal1]

The problem with taking no tip orders is, those are the first people to lie and say they never received the order, then you end up with a contract violation.

[@SideGigGuy]

Yes, I agree. I don’t think they realize they are hurting a person. They think they are just taking advantage of DoorDash, not dashers.

[@Kris-ln1vt]

I ALWAYS snap a photo of the food delivered, ALWAYS. They can't lie when there's a picture of them holding the bag! 😂

[@Kris-ln1vt]

​​@@SideGigGuySome people do it to hurt the delivery person. My sister had a person of another race lie on her twice on two delivery trips! One to their home and another to an office park "she actually got the same woman at work!" THE woman lied both times about not receiving her food! When my sister went back to the office park the next day to confront her about the lie, she was told by tbe receptionist that this woman does this to white drivers all the time! My sister recorded that and she was able to keep her job because she got that recording! People like that wo.an should be barred from delivery apps! Let her big racist butt go out and get her own food!

[@kingofrannoch]

Doordash got tired of bumping pay for those 2.50 7 mile orders 😂😂

[@hollyc6333]

I tip at least $5 -I’m a frequent DD user. I often will tip more, and will $10 if I place a grocery order. DD saves me a lot of time and hassle and I have never experienced any issues. I know folks use this as their primary or secondary income so glad to help!

[@SideGigGuy]

That is awesome to hear. Thank you for your tips on behalf of all dashers. The 5 dollar tips add up and are always appreciated. 😃😃

[@quickerecipes]

Yea, i don't deliver food with no tip and low base pay. I declined this one order from MCD for $4 with no tip (I'm in DC and we see tips in advanced), it was very close, 2.5 miles but i didn't want it because it was to a skyscraper. They sent me another order for $6.25 also 2.5miles to a school. I took it, was in the same parking lot as the MCD so i just walked to the store, as soon as i confirmed order picked up, they sent a pop-up for guess what, that same $4 order that i originally declined 😂, they said it added .02 miles to my route, i laughed so hard and decided $10.25 was worth the 2.7 mile drive so i accepted it. DD can be sneaky but I respect that play on their part. The apartment was next to the school and I was parked at MCD waiting for an order to I was literally the best person to deliver both orders. I just hope people learn how to tip. Even just $2 to bump a $4 order to $6 can make a world of difference to you getting hot fries.

[@Ash-zh5yg]

When a tipless food is delivered, it's because the system bootstraps them to a good order nearby.

[@VoidR]

Thanks for this vid! Now when people want to ask me what DD's deal is with extorting customers to pay the entitled dashers, I can just point them here. I don't know how many times I've made these same points in the past week. A result of DD putting out this notice without any explanation is I see a lot more very low tips and overall fewer orders in my area. I think the customers have taken offense and are pushing back a bit. Might just be me but is anyone else seeing this?

[@SideGigGuy]

Yup!! Even family and friends giving me crap!!

[@WhatsCookingTime]

No Tip No Trip

[@Kris-ln1vt]

Exactly my thought.

[@herrerajoey2]

Damn, this made me realize I tip really well. I tip $10 for any delivery, value of the order doesn't matter because they are still soending the same amount of time and effort whether it is 5 or 20 tacos.

[@SideGigGuy]

Yeah, I tend to think almost all tipping should be no less than $5 unless it it something that I am prohibited from doing myself. Like valet of the car when all they do is drive it into an adjacent parking lot. Those guys only get a buck, sorry. But yeah DD is usually 5 bucks unless I know they had to drive more than 5 miles round trip. Then I’ll try and tip 1.00 per mile. A lot of rural people do t think about this. And grocery delivery I usually will do 10%, and 15% if the order was accurate and timely. I think the good tippers like you really help us out when we get a no tip.

[@RideUpstate]

This was a good explainer, Jeff.

[@mudvalve]

Hey, Side Gig Guy, thanks for this information! I am a customer that utilizes DoorDash on a regular basis, so it’s interesting to hear how this works.

[@SideGigGuy]

You are very welcome. For what it’s worth, in most areas, $5 is considered a fair/good tip. Assuming 2.50 from DD and 5.00 tip is 7.50 for about 20 minutes of work. Around 20 bucks an hour. I tend to tip around that amount unless the store is a long distance. If the store is 10 miles from me, I tip $1 per mile. I’m glad you commented as that was just my intention to inform. A lot of people think we are employees and paid an hourly wage. We aren’t. If we aren’t on a delivery, we make nothing. And no benefits. I’m not complaining, I like it!! I’m retired and it is good side income. Again thanks for the comment!!

[@RobertEskew]

Side Gig Guy, I'd rather sit idle in a parking lot than accept an order that will pay less than $2 per business mile driven. Focusing on earnings per hour isn't enough. You need to consider if you're covering the cost of operating your car to deliver those orders. Remember, according to the IRS, it costs you $0.655 per mile to operate your car.

[@maxmotors9497]

You must stop referring to it as a job. It’s not a job. It’s a contractor dispatch system.

[@maxmotors9497]

That’s why you can’t get fired. If they could fire you for not taking orders- then it’s a job and they have to pay you wages and give you health insuarance.

[@michellepardue]

I can see someone’s not tipping when I get $2.50 to go pick up someone’s bag of burgers Or going several miles for $3.25 But not if it’s $8.00 for say … 7 miles

[@NomadicNirvana420]

Words mean different things to different people.

[@kevinflanagan6200]

It's also not a job in the sense of when he talks about people saying why don't they just pay better wages. It's meant to be a side gig no pun intended, in that it's more of a supplemental income it's not meant to be a job that gives you wages to live off of.

[@tyson32td]

@@maxmotors9497you can get fired they deactivate you

[@jjjordan9008]

You’re so right. I did a streak for the first time yesterday and after 3 deliveries, I was hit with a double order $2 each.

[@SideGigGuy]

Yup, they’ll pull it every trick to get it delivered

[@kevinflanagan6200]

This randomly popped up in my feed. I dont use things like door dash but its a good video title very click worthy. Regardless you explained this so well i learned a good chunk of how door dash works now and understand why you may have to wait for your order. I think they should hire you for pr on stuff like this.

[@SideGigGuy]

Hi. Thanks for your kind words. I was at a function or two last week and everyone was asking about this, and a lot of misinformation. Just wanted to clear it up!! Appreciate the note!

[@rokman5000]

You should have explained from the beginning about doordashers being independent contractors, not employees.

[@sexygeek8996]

These delivery companies are triple-dipping, often doubling the price: 1. They mark up the restaurant's price. 2. They add fees. 3. They expect you to tip. I can cook a one-pound steak for less than having a shitty fast-food burger delivered.

[@DT-tg5ps]

It’s call freedom of choice. Almost like the law of supply and demand.

[@SoftwareNugget]

They don’t mark up the restaurants price. They charge the restaurant a fee, then the restaurant passes it on by marking up their price.

[@sexygeek8996]

@@DT-tg5ps Yes, and my choice is to not use these services.

[@sexygeek8996]

@@SoftwareNugget It is still a mark-up in addition to the fees that they list on their bill. They want to hide part of the fee so the customer won't realize how high the fees really are.

[@stephy6199]

Wonder how much the fee is for each vendor. Im sure theres a surplus of cash on food mark ups after fee has been paid

[@cheeseburgeryumyum]

If you don't tip, then pick it up yourselves.

[@SkunkShrimp]

find a new job

[@cherrycabra8096]

@@SkunkShrimpf off

[@brblum]

​@@SkunkShrimpThey did. And it isn't delivering your food. 😂

[@brockhampton3078]

​@@SkunkShrimp A job is exchanging a service for money. Performing a service for $2.25 is not a job, it's charity work. Either tip appropriately or go get it bud because it's only our "job" to take deliveries when we are being reasonably compensated.

[@billpii6314]

I wonder what those people that think DD should pay us more, just how much do they think we should get paid ? And if they know DD has millions of drivers and hiring and giving them all "desirable" wages would cost them 100's of millions if not more. And that would only mean higher prices for them.

[@cheeseburgeryumyum]

Most people don't understand basic economics.

[@Rowgue51]

That's not how it works. You can't just keep raising your prices regardless of the actual value of your service. Doordash and similar services are already charging twice what it would cost somebody to just go pick up an order themselves. That's already an absurd delivery fee that limits the company's clientele to only morons and people with more money than they know what to do with. Pushing it much further than that would just put them out of business. It's a myth that the cost of operating your business can just be passed along to the customer without limit. The customer determines what your product or service is worth, not you.

[@thebowdasher]

Doordash company is making lots of money. They have been here for a while and their not going anywhere. Doesn't the pay rate depend on the state you live in? 🤔

[@SoftwareNugget]

@@thebowdasherThey’re not making money

[@SoftwareNugget]

@@Rowgue51That’s why they have to keep their costs down. Any way they can. Their goal is to have their costs be less than their revenue.

[@normanbrown8772]

I’ve worked for door dash for 4 years. I’ve got some basic rules on orders. 1) Minimum of $4.50 - $5.00 depending on how I feel and how busy it is. 2) A dollar a mile for every mile that I have to travel. 3 ) There are several restaurants that I refuse to go to for any reasons or payouts. One always takes too long after I get there and the other has a homeless guy who basically lives in the dining room and they do nothing about it. Those are my only two main rules. I’ve heard several customers comment/ complain about how expensive delivery is. I just remain quiet about that but the idea of any job is to make money and if it isn’t economically advantageous to do it then it won’t get done. I don’t know of any restaurants that have forced a customer to order so if you don’t like paying: go get it yourself. It would shock most people with how many $3.50 / 2 miles orders that I’ve refused. Obviously, there’s no tip on that order so that’s a order begging to be declined over and over. I don’t expect a $10.00 tip for 1 delivery but a few dollars is good.

[@CarlNichols-l4g]

I drive for DD and I see the tips as an incentive. Most people that don't tip up front will not tip at the end. Gas has skyrocket in price as well as insurance. We know when someone doesn't tip and will decline the trip. I pride myself on delivering food on time and hot. Apatments are the worst when no explanation is given on location. Certain restaurants are notorious for taking way too long on having food ready making Dashers look bad.

[@zizikitty]

Lately ordash has been just doing this thing where they'll group to really terrible orders together and if you're not paying attention you end up getting stuck with two bad orders.

[@SideGigGuy]

Yup, one of their many dirty tricks. However, in my zone they raised the hourly pay by time to $14.25. I’ll take that if I stay busy

[@fairesc]

These “stacked/streak/piggyback” deliveries are not fair. My 30% tip is getting some “no-tipper” their order first! I literally had to wait an extra ten minutes while zero tipper got delivered to first. Dasher took forever at the stop. 😠 I always up the suggested tip & go out to meet the driver so they can move on quickly. Also - I rarely order outside a 3 mile radius from my place! This just happened so I’m still a little salty about it…..

[@NoneNone-ty4su]

There is a consequence for declining orders.

[@SideGigGuy]

No, not really. You won’t get in trouble or deactivated. You just can’t attain higher status with low acceptance. But in many busy zones, it doesn’t matter.

[@toddzickel2548]

I would NEVER deliver a no tip order. Even as a $2 add on, forget it, I'll take an acceptance rate hit b4 i take a known no tip order. If they hide it in a stack, so be it but not knowingly.

[@SideGigGuy]

I hear this a lot and have a question. Is it on principle that the customer hasn’t tipped that you won’t take it? Or let me but it another way. If DD just paid us more on no tip orders, would you take them? I ask because I do a lot of earn by time, so I have no way of knowing. And my base pay can be 7.00 or more on some runs, and then no tip. When it’s slow, I don’t mind these. Thoughts??

[@themasonjars267]

I have most certainly driven 20-30 mins away from an area that has dash orders popping, to deliver an order for $8. It sucks ass to then have 20 mins to drive all the way back to a good area. It is most definitely ok to not take an order if it is completely out of your range. The beauty of it, is there are plenty of other drivers who may do it. I am starting to become more selective with my over all time it will take to make the delivery. It is tough to make that call in 30 seconds, while already driving.

[@antant7777]

For people who do not do door dash, let me explain. Let's say you are getting the $13 an hour. Well it's not really $13 an hour. You have to divide that in a time frame of the once you press accept and then once you press complete. So let's say it only takes 15 minutes well DD will calculate the amount that you will get after you drop it off.

[@thebowdasher]

Doordash has been lowballing me for a while now. I accept the big offers. And I decline the low ones. That is it for me.

[@Jeff0608]

Definitely not my friend it's getting real hard here in pell city I don't think they understand how much we do for them I been seeing orders for 3 bucks for 15 miles we don't got by the hour here yet I hope this turns around soon I love being top dasher

[@SideGigGuy]

I really hope we have a good holiday season. I've noticed that my lunch shift pay has really gone down. Early mornings are now better for me. Hang in there.

[@lakoncers13]

I hope your not taking those 3 bucks for 15 miles orders to keep your top dasher status

[@gregkareem9824]

U didn't answer the question

[@bigjoe322]

This is for those that doesn't like to tip go get your own food doordash is a luxury it's not a necessity for those that don't know how to tip properly here's something that could get your order faster 1)tip $3 if the delivery is within 1 to 5 miles from the restaurant 2)tip $5 if it's within 5 to 10 miles from the restaurant 3)tip $10 if it's 10 to 15 miles from the restaurant 4)if the order is 20 miles from the restaurant good luck getting your order you might get lucky if you tip $20 but it is doubtful you'll get anyone to take it Remember you don't have to tip but if you want that burger it might be worth it to tip the driver or you could get off your butt and go get it yourself it'll probably be cheaper anyway 😂😂😂

[@theMadDasherFL]

Between earn by time and the diamond program, I think those orders are getting picked up more often than not. I don't think this prompt was a good move on DoorDash's part.

[@SideGigGuy]

I agree. And then to brag about it in a press release really seems like too much.

[@robertronyak8244]

Some people put up a big tip and then take it back. There’s to many fees that don’t go to the dasher. It will be interesting to see the long term for door dash. No tip = cold old food and mad people that stop using the platform.

[@feellnfroggy]

Consequence now is losing the platinum rating perk of dash anytime and preferential orders.

[@tyharris9994]

Notice how he left that one out? Paid content creator.

[@winolaautomotive1131]

The only issue I seem to be (possibly) running into is even if those non-tip orders are stacked in, there seems to be a correlation between stacked order deliveries and low ratings.

[@RobertEskew]

Non-tippers and low-tippers tend to give drivers bad customer service ratings. I've earned my current 4.97 customer rating, in part, by not accepting no-tip and low-tip orders.

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

I think another reason is they are getting cold soggy late food because of their own choice and blaming the driver for it.

[@SoftwareNugget]

Not in my experience. And if they do, it’s usually for a reason that DD will exclude.

[@MrAsantana5311]

Very Informative no more dashdoor for me

[@9753flyer]

Tips are for service.. get my order here on time and be courteous and you will get a tip. I will NEVER tip in advance I work in a tip industry and demanding a tip up front is absolute BS

[@SideGigGuy]

While I agree, that should be the norm and cultural, no pre tip makes the order value smaller. Maybe the only way to solve is flat pay and less transparency… can’t believe I’m saying that. It did surprise me how many people where I used to live would zero tip. It was the norm. Over 50%.

[@shmo8958]

When you get no tips from 90 out of 100 customers who offered no tip at the start would you keep taking thoes kind of orders . half the time the base pay only covers gas . Its like you are volunteering instead of working .

[@SideGigGuy]

@@shmo8958 I would not. I only take offers with a dollar value I find reasonable.

[@9753flyer]

@@shmo8958 a tip is for service provided... If you don't like the deal you're getting in the employer that you're working for that's your problem not mine. After I have seen the service that you provide I'll decide if you get a tip. That you don't understand tips are for your performance not for the work that your employer is supposed to be paying you for, is also your problem.

[@9753flyer]

@@SideGigGuy you have no idea if you're going to make more or less until you provide the service that a tip is supposed to be for, not expecting that tip as part of your pay ahead of time. If you have a problem with the pay that you are receiving for doing X job, minus the service that the tip you hopefully receive reflects, that's your problem because you're working for the wrong employer. To assume that a tip is mandatory to get good service, is the problem. I agree there's a problem with the pay culture in this country, but again that is something between you and your employer. Why do you think employers get away with paying you a substandard wage? Because this exact attitude enables them to get away with it.

[@samuelgreen3966]

The way I see it if people didn’t tip there would be no business and people would have to get their order themselves to all you people who think you shouldn’t have to tip your driver and want service think about that !

[@micotheentrepreneur]

Great Video!

[@ethano9527]

About steak pay they won’t pay for any reason you don’t complete it. I didn’t get paid 3 times on my 6th delivery. The first one was a glitch it was a Pizza Hut COD. The second one was shop and deliver and it was one item that the store didn’t have. The third one the card would not go through at the register. The employee told me about 5 dashers came in for this order that couldn’t be completed. I call DD and they said I would get paid for 2 of them. They later changed their mind saying the order wasn’t completed and it’s meant to not be so easy to do. The streak pay was only for 2 weeks in my area.

[@virgo4200]

the problem with earn by time you get alof of those no tippers that will try to scam you and get free food...earn by time has a higher chance of contract violation because of scammy customers

[@SideGigGuy]

There is that also. I try to capture Dashcam whenever I can. Obviously can’t if it’s inside a building or apartment

[@redfive5856]

I had 2 no tip orders back to back the other day. I took them because the $/mile was good was surprised it was all base pay.

[@PhilipSAndrews]

DD have learned to Stack it with Tipping orders going in that direction. Ive delivered many orders to no tip orders first. (Details after second order completed) Then the person who has tipped is waiting. Believe me they question me. And these are my normal customers I deliver many times. I have learned to screen shot this in case I get questioned. Idk I think this kind of sleezy to get those no tip orders delivered.

[@johnwayne397]

u can remove the non tiping order after accepting the batch

[@PhilipSAndrews]

@@johnwayne397 witch one is the non tipping orders?

[@PhilipSAndrews]

@@johnwayne397 ive also encountered before i complete the stacked order (taking a photo before completing the delivery), DD adds another stacked no tip order. Like they forcefully want me to accept a no tip order while taking a photo. This is getting really annoying.

[@brianschneider5292]

Doesn't sound like DD is a very good paying gig.

[@SideGigGuy]

I really don’t think it’s that bad where I am. But customer tips make up a majority of my pay. So, in that respect, DD doesn’t pay well.

[@johnwayne397]

ive said this before but in more detail they dont give u a tip option based on nearest driver, what they need to do is like uber show a few drivers nearby that are so close to the restaurant, and you can look at the drivers rating and how close they are, lets say theres 3 drivers near the restaurant the cutomer can look at all 3s rating and a few other things, and choose, the higher rated driver farther away or the lower rated driver closer or visa versa, then send them a tip bid, it doesnt have to necesarily show the tip, but it can show the full payout vs the mileage like it does now, on the driver end, unless they choose to still hide part of it, but on the customers end it will say these 3 drivers are this far away this is there ratings when u hover over the driver it will say he has to drive this far to go to the restaraunt then to you...give an estimate of mileage then give a base minum tip example to the customer for that and they can choose that or increase it, maybe even have it say, that if you tip this much hes getting this much per mile and have a sliding scale, regardless the customer needs to see upfront where these dashers are before ordering and tipping

[@TheJadedDriver]

It’s not that DoorDash is slowing down the no tip orders,it’s that drivers just don’t take them! Why would a driver deliver to someone that doesn’t tip, when you can just decline it and accept an offer from someone that actually gets how DoorDash works?

[@HoffyRS]

If you dont tip im not moving my car for you.

[@gilbertomartinez6981]

Seems to me that just like some some restaurants have a minimum dollar order before their in house delivery drivers take to the streets, it might help us gig delivery drivers if delivery apps stop accepting such small orders. And we as delivery drivers would not need to cherry pick as much because ultimately we also have a bottom line that must be met. Otherwise its like we drive and deliver for charity.

[@robkuester1699]

I don't care if it's 1/2 mi away these people don't deserve their food on no tip orders

[@TaushaTW]

When I want to tip cash I will not tip in the app.

[@billpii6314]

They, DoorDash, are simply telling the truth.

[@crewtheaftermath4105]

So. DD is still trying to force the tip. Hate it. Liked it when tips were optional and I tip in person After I get my order so I know what kind of delivery I got. Some of these DD drivers leave your order outside. Which gets it stolen. So I tipped for nothing. Hate this method they have. I like to do it old way, get food first then tip like the pizza guy old school,tip after delivery not before.

[@SideGigGuy]

I hear you!! I think it is wrong expecting the customer to pay the dashers salary via a tip. DD should pay at least a bare minimum, which isn’t their going rate of $2.00. Thanks for the comment

[@swisscheeseoo7487]

They say if you don't tip, your food may take longer.. but if we still pass on the order, we still get marked for it when they say it's the drivers choice .. cancel rate hits us without protection

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

I have about a 10% acceptance rate. It's been down to 7. Your acceptance can go as low as needed. You won't be available for top dasher so now open dash now,. You just need to schedule ahead.

[@alanD228]

Tip should be low when you're the 1st pickup and 3rd stop plus the food is cold, just saying.

[@SideGigGuy]

Good point. I am big fan of post tipping when everything is ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@WhatsCookingTime]

2.50 for 15 miles LMAO that's at minimum 30 bucks . I wouldn't take less than 40 and it's got to be mostly high way

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

Agreed minimum 30.

[@TedTheAtheist]

Sounds like Doordash should pay their peopple more, then.

[@SideGigGuy]

That would be nice.

[@lakoncers13]

We are not “their people”

[@billpii6314]

Thanks for explaining it to the clueless masses out there. Also, DD should let us decide per order if we want the tip or the drive-by time, I think that might work out for them getting these low tip orders delivered of course that would mean DD would be paying out more so probably not going to happen.

[@SideGigGuy]

Good point!

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

I live in a mostly rural area where the neighbor town doesn't have restaurants. They try to send me 8 miles all the time. That's 16 to get back to where there is another restaurant. Your idea would help get those delivered.

[@kennethcollier4660]

I don't know what you're talking about we do know if you tip before we even pick up the order example if I get a order it says $2 delivery that mean you didn't leave a tip at all and I am not picking that one up but if I get one and it says $9 driving 2 miles that means you left a tip

[@SideGigGuy]

Yup. When I order DD, I’ll put a small up front tip to get it going, usually 3 dollars. And then if everything goes well with delivery, I add on 5 more.

[@be5181]

As a driver, I dash by time and accept nearly every order. Where I’m at, I can clear $100 in a 6 hour shift. I do it more for the exercise and to know my area. It works for me but not for everyone.

[@SideGigGuy]

You are right. Feels like we are going about it the same way.

[@wicky201]

Haven't seen the Streak thing in Las Vegas.

[@ANDY-jo8ip]

I never tip and never had a issue lol

[@SideGigGuy]

If you’ve never had an issue with DoorDash (regardless of tip) you are one lucky person. I’d play the lottery!!

[@gulftherapy]

There is no reason not to tip. If you can’t afford to tip you can’t afford food delivery.

[@Jeff0608]

Actually I've seen them go as low as 2 bucks

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

Base starts at 2 in my market now. It was 2.25

[@ohger1]

They should eliminate tips entirely and just add the charge directly to the check to pay for the service. Too many people try to outsmart the system by not tipping while others do, when it's clearly required to make delivery feasible. Better yet - people should get off their fat asses and get the damned food themselves (98% of people *can* get it themselves). Talk about first world problems...

[@belkisorozco9438]

All services have to be paid, don´t bother people can do it by themselves, if they can give services should pay by this if they want other get the foods fot them

[@sharky2675]

People should be forced to tip and they should have to pay a mileage fee if its far

[@burninglight]

$2.50 my area is $2 is not profitable especially if there’s a lot of miles in involved. No way I will do it, could be 2.50 for only a few miles but a lot to consider wait time and traffic. Could take 30 or more minutes to deliver and all you got paid is $2.50. You absolutely made no money and you actually helped pay for the order to be delivered, so you have lost money.

[@mikewoo5488]

I won’t touch a order that don’t have a tip

[@9753flyer]

Your loss.. I tip AFTER if you do your job and get it here on time and be nice at the door since tips are for your SERVICE, not your 'pay' If you need a tip to do the job you signed up for, you need to get another job. Yes, I work in a tipped service industry. People like you are one of the problems with the service industry.

[@SideGigGuy]

The way the platform is designed is what causes this. If you walked into a restaurant as a server, and above everyone’s head was a dollar amount for how much you would make to wait on them, everyone would try and get the high paying tables. I’ve recently started doing grocery delivery with Shipt, where even if the customer pre tips, the driver doesn’t know it. And if they post tip, it can be weeks later. It takes a real leap of faith to do those as it is a lot more work to grocery shop, check out and pay, load groceries in car, deliver, and then unload. I’m glad most people tip with Shipt. But many who use DD don’t tip. (Many do). I’m treading lightly as I’m the kind of person who tips anyone that comes into my home.

[@raspberrymoon5144]

@@9753flyer drivers are not employees. Our “job” is to be profitable after paying for gas, taxes, biz fees, maintenance on the vehicle and a host of other expenses as a business. Enjoy your entitled cheapskate nonsense while the majority of us choose the $10+ tipped orders who also tip in person on delivery as well. 🤣

[@BigMod167]

​@@9753flyerit's not our loss it's actually yours. We can reject your offer and wait for a higher-paying offer. It shouldn't be called a tip, it's actually a bid for service. In the end, you're no tip order may be sitting on the shelf getting cold.

[@lakoncers13]

@@9753flyer let me guess you work at Starbucks you have green hair and you’re a raging liberal

[@MyAnimeDomination]

just go pickup yourself, no reason for delivery unless its miles away

[@gilliganwilliams1993]

Hourly is garbage, you get the smaller orders.

[@BuffaloTrackker]

It's been my case several times that DD will send me 4 offers and I'll get them delivered.. the 5th will come 15 minutes before the streak is over (after waiting 45 minutes) and there's no way in hell to finish it on time..

[@S_Dsilvia]

No driver should do any orders that are less than $2 per mile

[@glorgau]

Remember if you don't tip "enough", you food will get spit in it. How much is "enough"? It's up to you to guess.

[@entrim]

I will drop a no tip order on a stack.

[@bobbuilder-wo9tv]

Just tip and then call after and remove the tip.. done.

[@Evolved-Tradez]

funny earn by time in my area is 12.25. I don't do it

[@stormysyndrome7043]

At that rate, might as well be working for McDonald’s here.

[@micosstar]

HDR video?!?!!? nice came from youtube recommend

[@SideGigGuy]

Did the quality look better?? This was first video shot with iPhone 15. I couldn’t tell much difference since it was just me on white background. Could you tell? Or is that called out in description? Thank you very much for letting me know!!

[@Jeff0608]

I've been tricked by doordash where they throw in 2 orders it says hey this is a diamond order and when you drop off the first it doesn't show you how much they paid until the next order is dropped off then you will see and one will be no tip the other will be the big tip

[@SideGigGuy]

Yeah, they are crafty when they add it on right when you show up at the store. (most distracted)

[@Jeff0608]

@SideGigGuy yeah great video by the way you was right on point

[@SideGigGuy]

@@Jeff0608 Hey QQ. I dashed today by the order and the experience was different. I was getting next offer BEFORE I finished the drop. (Like Uber eats) Does that happen to you?

[@Jeff0608]

@@SideGigGuy you mean before you pick up or during your drop off

[@SideGigGuy]

@@Jeff0608 During the drop off. Like 1 minute away or walking up to the door. I got two attempts while trying to make one delivery. I took the 2nd one. But DD didn’t ever do that. UberEats did that all the time.

[@RD-ce6bb]

Its not a tip its a delivery fee

[@BigMod167]

That is not what you want people to think. Most orders already have a delivery fee attached in the customer sees and knows it. Some customers think we get that money but we don't. It should be called a bid for service if anything.

[@RD-ce6bb]

Makes sense@@BigMod167

[@benchmark3332]

In my market $2.00 is the base pay

[@leathemaltesedog]

If you don't tip, you might not get the order.

[@introspectivetones8572]

A lot of you guys are in denial. There millions of drivers and lots of them are taking these no tip orders. Your order “May” be delayed but more often than not a dasher is taking the order right away. If this wasn’t true base pay wouldn’t be 1 to 2$ on all the apps.

[@elaynereed5843]

I thought you said that the Dasher can see how much the total amount is.. then you started talking about pay by hour he stated the dasher cannot see the pay if it's the same app. I'm not understanding

[@JohnDoe-fz3nu]

Door dash does not care. They still get their cut from the sale.

[@timothyslaughter476]

I see doordash now wants me to tip.....well here's 25 whole cents young fella!! This entire tip prompt is a joke. These damn customers know this game better than the drivers. That's clear as day!!!!

[@lakoncers13]

That’s why your order sits on the shelf. almost any time I go to a Restaurant there’s someone’s order that’s been sitting there for 45 minutes plus, soggy and cold. I usually take a picture of it and laugh at the person who will at some point during the day get the food they already paid for.

[@timothyslaughter476]

@@lakoncers13 I wouldn't order from any of the these apps in a zillion years. I've seen you guys!!! No thanks. But I do the work...lmaooouuut!

[@RobertEskew]

No Tip, No Trip

[@timothyslaughter476]

@@RobertEskew well then I can tell ya about 100 offers I declined because of no or maybe a 50cent tip just yesterday that did get delivered. You and I know about no tip no trip.....not good enough. We're in business with idiots!!!

[@nicholasbutler2365]

Door dash is insanely overpriced to begin with, they charge more for all of the food, the charge a service fee, then they charge a delivery fee on top of that and then expect you to tip on top of all that. It’s bull shit. I tip on door dash but not a percentage, I give the driver $3-5 for an order no matter the price and I do so in cash

[@tracyjohnson5201]

This driver can't afford DD yet I'm expected to drive 4-5 miles for pickup then drive to customer with a dark yard and no street lights and no response when I attempt to contact then navigate back to zone for $2-$2.50 F DD and f that customer. Flag them and never accept that address again.

[@lakoncers13]

Tipping in cash at the door and not leaving it in the app only delays your orders. I got a $20 tip in cash the other day on an order that was only $2.50 the base pay. The guy was so thankful that somebody had finally brought his food. I told him if he had literally just left a five dollar tip on the app he would’ve gotten his food much earlier after obviously thanking him for the large cash tip.

[@nicholasbutler2365]

@@tracyjohnson5201 no you can decline the order, personal choice

[@nicholasbutler2365]

@@lakoncers13 I don’t agree but even if it delayed the order I’m not tipping for a service I haven’t yet received, thats stupid

[@yalirodela8533]

I wish base pay was 2.50$ we getting fukked outa profits every day

[@jeffreynelson4149]

It is actually $2.00 dollars that is the base pay low. I would never take $6.50 for 12.1 are you actually a dasher? Anything under a dollar a mile does not ever get accepted. No one will take it.

[@jeffreynelson4149]

They do throw the low balls on add routes but you can't automaticly decline because some of them are good money for 0.06. I don't think you actually dash your very uninformed if you do.

[@SideGigGuy]

Actually a dasher, yes. My strategy is just different. I report my income each month, there is a playlist on my channel. I agree with you, anything less than 1.00 per mile not worth it. But I’m dashing by time, so $13.75 plus tips works in a generous zone.

[@nicoj3660]

Corporate greed

[@414ruckmylifeMKE]

Average base pay I'm offered in my area is between $1.50 and $2.00

[@RobertEskew]

The typical maximum base in my area is $2. I wouldn't drive one mile for $2.

[@troysandoval512]

Ole Clickbait video I thought you were going to show the actual order how long it takes to get no tip delivered

[@SideGigGuy]

That is one critical metric that is missing. You got me. An experiment is in the works.

[@charlesclaridy8646]

It was a VERY POOR CHOICE OF WORDS by Door Dash. They should have explained all of the aspects of the charges and the issues drivers have to consider. Disagree about the "Np Consequences" because low AR drivers do not receive the same priority on good orders and that comes from Door Dash! And... Low AR Drivers cannot Dash anytime!

[@SideGigGuy]

Yep. They could’ve done much better, DoorDash, I mean. Even a two tier system, where the customer can choose to pay more for faster delivery would have worked better. But now they’re actually making the customers look cheap. Even if they are being cheap, DoorDash doesn’t know if they’re going to tip after the delivery or at the door.

[@lakoncers13]

I can keep a 5% AR and still dash anytime buddy. it’s called Uber eats. Also keep believing that higher priority thing on orders I still get 15 $20 orders all the time on DoorDash with a 5% acceptance rate.

[@daviddillemuth7268]

Actually $2 is minimum now

[@unowild]

If you have a job and you dont do what is expected of you, you should be fired. The customer isnt responsible for your wages.

[@maxmotors9497]

Unfortunately in this case they are stupid. It’s a gig, not a job. When I did it I decided what I did and that was the freedom afforded me by the system I which I operated. If you aren’t paying me I ain’t working. I do repair work now and if I quote you and you think it’s too high I might be in for a negotiation but I’m in control, I get to decide to leave, and they can too. Screw you for wanting something for nothing.

[@theresa7044]

It’s not a job. Each order is an individual offer. If someone offered you a job with no pay, would you take it?

[@brockhampton3078]

@@theresa7044 Exactly this. Anybody who makes a point like this person has no idea what they're talking about or how Doordash's pay model works.

[@explore4643]

No tip no trip..!! Idc

[@SideGigGuy]

How do you feel about 1.00 per mile?? I’ve been working on a video discussing profit, revenue, and time. I feel like making more money (revenue) is directly related to time.. just working more hours regardless of offer. Where making more profit is about cherry picking the good orders. I was surprised to learn that I could pretty much take any order, even at .50 a mile, and it didn’t impact profit as much as I thought. And while it did impact the amount of time I worked, my hourly rate was just slightly lower. (Because I stayed busy) Unfortunately, I’m having a hard time putting it together because it is dry and boring with a lot of stats. But watch for it!!

[@shallowbay1701]

Speaking of keeping one's "job," couldn't help but notice the screenshot with a 4.56 rating and very low on-time percentage. How has that person not been deactivated. Must be a dirty multi-apper taking 3-4 orders at a time. Ridiculous 😂

[@dionnesimoneissmitten4436]

Nah, that could easily come from taking no tip orders. No tip customers are horrid for leaving bad feedback and the order bounces around in the system making it late. Also if they take shopping orders, those are easy to be late. Shop orders killed my on-time rate.

[@Googoogagabanana]

Door dash is so freakin scummy, tips are stupid, just pay ur workers a livable wage!

[@yalirodela8533]

I just got one 2$ only😢😢