Dota 2 Guide - Roles

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@mohamadamirulabdlah6089
@mohamadamirulabdlah6089 5 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Sea Server, all roles are merged into 1 type = Carry.. no matter what hero u pick, it will played as carry
@ZotekWins
@ZotekWins 12 жыл бұрын
Heroes usually possess several of the roles inherently. Night Stalker fx. is mainly a ganker, but he can easily be made tanky. Or Broodmother, who is mainly used for pushing, can also carry if given the feed. Each hero has their roles listed when you're selecting them.
@TheDevourerOfPancake
@TheDevourerOfPancake 11 жыл бұрын
Carrys are far easier to play then supports and i encourage them to my new friends. Right clicking after a support has worked their ass off giving you kills. And at the end you can brag about your better kill death ratio because the support actually sacrifices themselves for you
@TheWontTell
@TheWontTell 10 жыл бұрын
And when you start doing that, we just nod silently so as not to break your balloon-like ego. Or we just realize you won't do it right and name someone else the carry.
@GjoreIliev
@GjoreIliev 10 жыл бұрын
Dude early game supports can push the game , after 25 min carry and semi carry rule the game is so simple , when you play dota for 1-2 years you think that you know everything .... but (is always a but in this game )
@TheWontTell
@TheWontTell 10 жыл бұрын
Giore Iliev However, it relies on the carry actually farming. If he sucks at farming, he won't get gold as fast, meaning he won't have the gold advantage. And then when the 25 minute mark comes up, he is suddenly not as strong as he was before.
@crystalmascot3107
@crystalmascot3107 10 жыл бұрын
That's were the "limitation" of a player kicks in, experience have showed me that player who plays support first then go carry are most likely better than those who just go carry all the way. Being a support will give you a better reflex since you'll probably depend on the skill you have and yes it is harder(mainly because of the frustation of buying items for the team having one mistake and completely throwing the game(example is wards) but it is better to play as a support first.
@TheWontTell
@TheWontTell 10 жыл бұрын
Crystal Mascot Well, there are two other roles that could work. Initiators and lane supports. You know, the ones who aren't hard supports
@WolfHunner
@WolfHunner 10 жыл бұрын
Me: Anyone wanna support? Guy: I will. Me: Okay. (Doesn't buy courier or wards, builds Soul Ring, 2 wraith bands, tranquil boots.) Me: Shaman you said you're gonna support what are you doing? Do you even know what a support is? I play support every game now cause I don't wanna risk it with people who have no idea what they're doing. Not to sound arrogant or anything.
@KagirinaiYonaka
@KagirinaiYonaka 10 жыл бұрын
yeah.. support is very important.. like a saying.. it's good if you carry the carry, but it's wiser if you support the support..
@davidp.7725
@davidp.7725 9 жыл бұрын
HighLevi lol a had same game exactly with shaman who said i'll support and he go to hard for farm alone for 20 minutes :D maybe same guy ? :0
@WolfHunner
@WolfHunner 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that
@amalluminati
@amalluminati 9 жыл бұрын
+HighLevi you the realmvp bro
@thekappa6529
@thekappa6529 9 жыл бұрын
When I play support, I ward and pull and create space but my carry cant last hit to save his life. When I play carry I can last hit but my support never wards or helps me.
@andrewnelson3823
@andrewnelson3823 11 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Disabler, Roamer, Escape, Lane Support and the other role thats not been added in Dota 2 since old players knew it in the Original Dota is the Spell Caster Role
@Airhan12
@Airhan12 11 жыл бұрын
First of all, lane support is the babysitter which SUNSfan mentioned disabler.roamers, and escape are just what they do I mean like for escape all they do is escape death they dont do anything special for the team just escaping death and for disabler all u do is like stun a target and ur done like pudge or earthshaker and for roamers they are a bit like junglers since they do move or ream the area a lot
@ploglo13
@ploglo13 11 жыл бұрын
Airhan12 Actually,escapers can bait the enemy team into bad situations. Greed is so easy to exploit in dota.
@Airhan12
@Airhan12 11 жыл бұрын
ploglo13 well how is escapers gonna bait the enemy team when they escape and they just come back to the fight? especialy for those escapers with invisability
@sfriedrice4445
@sfriedrice4445 5 жыл бұрын
Its 2019 and theres still no spell caster
@rijalimbu810
@rijalimbu810 4 жыл бұрын
2nd day in dota and cant understand u guys
@KimberPrime
@KimberPrime 10 жыл бұрын
Windrunner is a great pusher too: Powershot cleans up creeps and Focus Fire deals good tower damage.
@PetrakisPetrov
@PetrakisPetrov 10 жыл бұрын
You forgot some roles, the Flammer and the Russian.
@Darionn17
@Darionn17 9 жыл бұрын
oh and the fail carry who reports you if u carry him with a support ^^
@ELRoSRoND
@ELRoSRoND 11 жыл бұрын
it is especially if u managed to get H.o.Tarasque& blade mail annnd pipe.. but u can also add him to initiator role as well plus helps to escape as whole team sometimes too..
@V2D678R
@V2D678R 8 жыл бұрын
I tried to watch this on my account, only to find it age-restricted. Looking forward to see why.
@axelcore92
@axelcore92 8 жыл бұрын
there's no reason
@rodolfojosemiquilarenagonz1927
@rodolfojosemiquilarenagonz1927 12 жыл бұрын
also a very good tank/initiatior is tidehunter, and a very powerfull tank/inititator is treant protector, i think there is a mixed roll between ganker/semi-carry that would be Bloodseeker and Gondar (Bounty Hunter)
@Goabnb94
@Goabnb94 10 жыл бұрын
I think there needs to be report for not playing according to roles. I hate the mid that never ganks. I hate the roamers who never come to your lane and helps, sole supports who still refuse to buy courier or wards, etc. I would love to see a new game mode (for experienced players) where players are randomly assigned a role (eg, 2 supports, 1 hard carry, 1 mid/ganker, 1 offlaner, or something along the lines of this). Players can then only pick heros that meet the definition of the role they are assign. That way, they have to play that role or be reported for not doing it. I'm sick of having a team of 3/4 hard carries.
@B20C0
@B20C0 10 жыл бұрын
"I hate the mid that never ganks." This sentence alone shows everybody that you have no clue of Dota, as there are some heroes that are great mid heroes but should concentrate on getting farm and/or destroy towers instead of gank, for example Dragon Knight or Naga Siren. You have to pick according to the needs instead of picking ultra hardcarries in every game. For example if you have a Naga mid, you cannot go for Antimage/Phantom Lancer/Void because you will have no chance in midgame if your enemy isn't dumb. In this case it's smarter to go for 2 semicarries/nukers + 2 supports, as this will help you to sustain early- to midgame. It also means that the sidelanes have to support each other and the mid. Complaining about sole supports not buying anything also tells me that you play at a pretty low level because there should never be only one support. When I play support in pubs and the last pick of my team isn't a support I refuse to do all the report stuff, too because me getting some utility items instead of constant wards doesn't hurt the team as much as this idiot picking a 3rd carry. Period. Also you should ask yourself if there is a sole support, why didn't you repick?
@Goabnb94
@Goabnb94 10 жыл бұрын
B20C0 The only time you shouldn't leave mid to gank is when you have heros who aren't strong early game in its safer to get get farm in mid. I would expect a Medusa mid to just stay because she cannot gank well. But having Pudges and Huskar, who are really good at ganking, but don't do it...they would benefit more from getting kills off in a successful gank - Pudge especially for gaining strength with every kill, and if they have picked up an urn. I have been in games where are lanes get pushed hard, we get no help from the mid hero who could gank to alleviate the pressure. About sole supports - yes I am in comparison to some players quite new to the game. But pub matches are, at least until you get to really high level, dominated by people who pick carries with no regard for team composition. Its not my fault for a team that wont pick considering the team line-up. Most pubs have few supports, that is just a fact. And when it happens, I'm sick of being expected to do everything as I often pick support just so there is one - but I'm sick of being treated as the punching bag for people to take their rage out on because I cannot do everything alone (rage often because they do stupid things, or because they are countered by a proper team). And sometimes I do go carry, merely so I can practice it and get better. If I ever last pick, I will pick according to the team composition. Sometimes I first pick, and if people don't pick support, they have no reason to complain for no wards. If they last pick carries and our team is full of them, its clear that they never cared about team composition in the first place. But sometimes you will see somebody pick somebody like silencer, and despite already having 4 other carries, they also try to carry and don't support. In this case, I'd like to report them.
@B20C0
@B20C0 10 жыл бұрын
Goabnb94 You can't report people for being bad and making bad decisions. My advice for you is to play ranked matches and improve there. Once you get to a certain point you will not have those problems anymore.
@SonOfHubris
@SonOfHubris 10 жыл бұрын
i feel the same #Goabnb94 its jstu so pointless i order gank for an example: i order gank in 5th mintue of the game and then after 5 mins when i die then they gank -_- and i requested gank like 5 mins ago its so annoying or supports try to ''carry'' game andthen killsteal all the time and then dont help or support at all
@SonOfHubris
@SonOfHubris 10 жыл бұрын
B20C0 dude even ranked mathces are full of assholes like the guy said, now i paly rubick alot and i ks sometimes just so i cna afford boots to help my team (max 3 ks per game) and then they rage for everything like goabnb94 said its just fuckign pointless to play suports in dota noone appriciates uyour help fro an e.g.: i secured litteraly 16 killls fro a hard carry who at the end had all his items and then i ks form him double kill so i can afford aghanim and be more helpfull wiht cc spells that enemy tema had
@thelordofdarkcheese
@thelordofdarkcheese 11 жыл бұрын
The two main roles are carry and support. The others are basically sub-roles for how the hero is played well within that carry or support role. For instance Lich is meant mainly for a support role but his attacks can dish out a large amount of damage in a short amount of time putting him under the category of a nuker also.
@kenvincent19
@kenvincent19 11 жыл бұрын
Bristleback can be a good tanker too..
@Ultraegehan25
@Ultraegehan25 10 жыл бұрын
Brist wasn't in Dota2 at the time when this video was made probably
@LamixFace
@LamixFace 5 жыл бұрын
Going to give Dota 2 another try after a million years, this video was pretty ace to the base. Thank you.
@ewanhassall7350
@ewanhassall7350 9 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks assassin should be a class. Generally invisible, high dmg nukers, who kill off low health heros.
@fransedoravelino4744
@fransedoravelino4744 9 жыл бұрын
ewan hassalll like bounty hunter??
@ewanhassall7350
@ewanhassall7350 9 жыл бұрын
I was saying that we should classify the hero's we already have as assassins like riki, not create new heroes for it.
@RathrDash1ng42
@RathrDash1ng42 11 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit of a newbie as well but to my knowledge a snowball is when a hero gets a few good kills early game which allows them to level faster and earn more gold which allows them to be more effective and more deadly later in the game so they get more kills and gold which makes them more effective and the process cycles. The reason this very noticeable on Pudge is because he also gains strength for every kill with his passive ability Flesh Heap.
@baradbalraj3104
@baradbalraj3104 11 жыл бұрын
Hey guys im a seasoned veteran of League of Legends and I want to make the switch to Dota 2 because it looks better and "funner"? Are the roles similar?
@HorkyPorky
@HorkyPorky 11 жыл бұрын
Yea Just warning you though most LoL players don't do so well in Dota 2
@GrayderFox
@GrayderFox 11 жыл бұрын
Horky Porky I've never heard this before. What happens?
@HorkyPorky
@HorkyPorky 11 жыл бұрын
***** It is a real time strategy game. In it you have to buy items and level up in order to destroy the enemy base. You choose from a variety of different heroes to play, each one with its own abilities, and an "ultimate" achieved at level 6. When you first try it I would recommend a coach. (ex, a friend who plays Dota 2 or League of Legends)
@GrayderFox
@GrayderFox 11 жыл бұрын
Horky Porky Oh, thank you for the explanation; I was asking after Barad's question, though. I already have experience with League of Legends; I've recently started playing Dota, so I was interested in his comment. :P Thanks though!
@mateuszgremlin7535
@mateuszgremlin7535 11 жыл бұрын
I switched from lol to dota 2 and after 130 games i can finally tell dat i can play this game. Dota provides more powerful heroes than lol so that means it doesnt forgive mistakes. Thats why its not noob-friendly so u must be very patient not to quit this shit. The most annoying thing at the beginnig is the variety of animation times like, auto attack, spell casting or even hero turning. Second is courier and units control. If u master those things u will not back to lol cause its soooo booring. Merry christmas.
@lemonkeisinpain9096
@lemonkeisinpain9096 11 жыл бұрын
Her swap saves the carry. Her aura buffs the carry's damage. Her wave of terror lowers the armour of enemies, allowing easier kills for the carry. Her stun is allround a great spell. I love playing vs as a carry with deso and manta, but she's mostly seen as a support because of her abilities.
@mumikaric6942
@mumikaric6942 10 жыл бұрын
So basically anyone who wants to play this game for real, has to stop doing anything else in his life, otherwise you don't know shit about this game. Yea I got the roles idea, there are pretty much 10 theoretical roles, but to understand which heroes suit which role and to understand why and whos the best you need to check them all out and play like 100 games and to put your soul into it, so much work
@RedGallardo
@RedGallardo 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm feeling the same. I wanted to just know what is this game, why is it so popular and how to play it but it seems it's extremely unfriendly, maze-like and stressful, from gameplay and tactics to awful narrow-angle screen and ugly graphics. And they somehow make so many people play it they have this 2 mil prize tournament... Welcome to Zombieland!
@kipzs6724
@kipzs6724 9 жыл бұрын
if a videogame can be stressful to you, i shudder to think of what happened to your life. I dont really see how dota 2 is mazelike since theres only one map lol. And the gameplay and tactics are only terrible to guys who play simple shooter games which honestly are for literal rockheads who cant handle anything more than just aiming and shooting. And you dont even have to play every hero. Usually the one that visually appears the most appealing to you will be the hero youre most comfortable with. About "terrible graphics" dota 2 came out in like 2009-2010, and at least its graphics live up to expectations (yes im looking at you watch dogs)
@mumikaric6942
@mumikaric6942 9 жыл бұрын
Le Kipzs its not that simple as you say it is. I was playing today and again when you don't know every hero it's hard to play because you don't know who fits who, so I played and then people are calling me noob and stuff cause I didn't know that I should have stand still when some hero used a magic on me, cause I didn't know that heros skills. you must like play every hero a few times so you will know whos doing what and how to counter and how to take less damage and to know when to run. It's a hard game if you want to be a good player. everybody can just get in there and play for fun but you just won't be a good player if you just play "for fun"
@kipzs6724
@kipzs6724 9 жыл бұрын
If u wanna know what each characters abilities are just take a few minutes to look through them in the loadout menu
@RedGallardo
@RedGallardo 9 жыл бұрын
Le Kipzs It doesn't help one bit to know that, say, Io has Spirits call unless you see how it works in the game and you have no idea how to use them before you watch someone else playing and manipulating them. And that's 1 skill, which takes a minute to carefully read and try to understand and memorize, then watch a 10 min play video which may or may not answer all your questions. So 1 hour medium per skill research to know what it is, minus be able to use. 109 hours only to know who has what. Not less than 48 full hours, that's for sure.
@Moonandsun1337
@Moonandsun1337 12 жыл бұрын
So i came over to dota recently from League and i must admit this was really helpful
@macedonianking54
@macedonianking54 8 жыл бұрын
what about the escape?
@christianiohuertas8230
@christianiohuertas8230 8 жыл бұрын
Helmes Tsar Heroes that can escape fast when they are ganked by others
@proadam09
@proadam09 12 жыл бұрын
@Rubentje7 It's funny, because snowball is actually a really well known ability in Dota1, that belongs to a hero called Tuskar (not in Dota 2 yet). In the context of this video though, the term snowball describes gankers. Pudge and tiny both "snowball" into very dangerous threats if fed with a couple kills early. Pudge gets flesh str for each kill and thus gets more powerful, and Tiny may not be THAT dangerous really early but if fed can get a quick blink and can get out of hand fast.
@dzk6714
@dzk6714 8 жыл бұрын
you didnt mention the best ganker in the game Bloodsekeer
@dzk6714
@dzk6714 8 жыл бұрын
Fled From Nowhere yes the best nobody can escape from rupture and what is 1k ?
@user-ry2rb2qe4h
@user-ry2rb2qe4h 8 жыл бұрын
+The Star 1k as in your mmr
@dzk6714
@dzk6714 8 жыл бұрын
Anri Apilis mmr is just a number
@emilbrandwyne5747
@emilbrandwyne5747 8 жыл бұрын
lol you can tp out of rupture and you can try to fight him
@dzk6714
@dzk6714 8 жыл бұрын
Emil Brandwyne i know rupture is useless against troll ,i wait and crush bs like a bug
@SparedTime
@SparedTime 12 жыл бұрын
I love these guides. It tells me a lot of information and helped improve the dota communities.
@DreamsOfWastelands
@DreamsOfWastelands 12 жыл бұрын
Support is by far the easiest roll to learn, as it means your mistakes don't necessarily result in as much detriment to your team as a roll such as carry. It is also a good way to learn the game as you go, because as you support other heros you'll learn them as well. Easy supports to start out with would be: Vengfull spirit, Crystal maiden, Venomancer, Lich, and Tidehunter.
@Arvensa
@Arvensa 11 жыл бұрын
An assist count as well as total deaths on team/map would be useful in determining whether a player has 'fed' o any degree in a game. A supports' view of death is that they should if it will save a more useful member of the team or if it is necessary to enable some situation heavily favorable to their team (something like a tripple-kill or a good push). 0 kills is good if your carry or someone got them.
@TheZedman5000
@TheZedman5000 10 жыл бұрын
I like how the speed that team took down that tower and barracks was slower than I did it as Lycan at level 20 with about 350 damage average, and an insane attack speed. Solo won the game then, I got attacked by the whole enemy team but barely survived, and creeps finished the Ancient. It was glorious, they lost so hard. Lycan, man, he gets crazy with a few dead towers and a massive sword.
@yungstaplegun
@yungstaplegun 12 жыл бұрын
The main roles are Ganker, Support, and Carry. Jungling, Nuking, Tanking, and Initiating are just things heroes can do. You can be a Jungling Tanking Ganker (Axe) or a Nuking Initiating Carry (Nevermore). But usually if you're a Ganker you shouldn't be a Carry, although in some cases it might work (Vengeful Spirit).
@Maximillionum
@Maximillionum 11 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, Tank, Pusher, Ganker, and Jungler are optional. Though it is also possible for certain heroes to fulfill multiple roles, like Pudge is a ganker and a tank.
@wheelchair89
@wheelchair89 12 жыл бұрын
yes he can. He can also be a very good support in the lane, make sure you gank a few times in the early to mid game, to ensure a good game throughout. Equip yourself with a stout shield too. To tank up attack. Start with a lower NC camp then move your way to stack them up. Your ion-shell should do you good =)
@Reppuu
@Reppuu 12 жыл бұрын
@MartinezMKD His corrosive skin not only slows the enemy attack speed, but also their move speed, it also cause them to receive damage. Kinda like Spectre. That passive works it best when an enemy is attacking Viper. And when you want enemy to attack you, you should build it tanky. Also that corrosive skin increased Viper magic resistance by 25% on lvl 4. But it depends on the situation or your playstyle. As for me I prefer building tanky if there is no tanker on my side.
@atreuskratosson755
@atreuskratosson755 5 жыл бұрын
Oh what nostalgia. Classic dota2. I miss the good old days of dota
@KKlawm
@KKlawm 12 жыл бұрын
This is a great example of all the potential roles in the game. I sometimes feel there is another role, ANTI-CARRY, which is a hero who through removing attack speed or damage, severely damages the enemy carries potential. Examples would be Bane, Viper, Razor and item choices such as Eye of Skaadi and Shiva's Guard. But there isn't enough heroes like this to be a role. Also what about Disabler?
@TheCombatarmshero
@TheCombatarmshero 12 жыл бұрын
Sand king is a good pusher, when i play as him he has the ability to take out large heros and creeper waves like nothing. However he is very dependant on leveling and semi dependant on items. Makes a good tank as long as you have the items.
@JamesMichaelDoyle
@JamesMichaelDoyle 11 жыл бұрын
its because he is a melee carry that has good built in lifesteal to counteract the harass he takes when he goes in for last hit. also paired with someone who can stun or slow will allow lane dominance as they would fear the chain slows/stuns = death.
@Kitsune81
@Kitsune81 11 жыл бұрын
Great beginners guide, with hero examples to demonstrate the roles. Now I know why it took forever to kill someone playing Axe, didn't know he was built as a tank by default haha.
@ChocolateAntFarm
@ChocolateAntFarm 12 жыл бұрын
@Rubentje7 it's a character that acts like a metaphorical snowball. They start out not very powerful or dangerous but they keep going and going until they become an unstoppable force.
@Rangrok1k
@Rangrok1k 11 жыл бұрын
4 int can work. Get someone like Obsidian Destroyer as the Carry, pair him with someone like Lich to put in the easy lane, Storm Spirit or Queen of Pain as solo mid, Dark Seer solo long lane, and then Enigma or even Nature's Proph as a Jungler.
@Kitsune81
@Kitsune81 11 жыл бұрын
Initiator = Is the one that INITIATES teamfights in mid and late game. Usually because they have AoE nukes/stuns (Like Enigma). So they start with the stun and the rest of the team can jump on them. Ganker = A hero that tries to find solo targets (early game) away from towers. Usually heroes that are good 1v1 (like Pudge) or with great burst damage (like Tiny).
@kainono
@kainono 12 жыл бұрын
@MrNoizeFish Actually tank is a armored vehicle that can withstand lots of damage before becoming nonfunctional, so any hero who can build enough defenses to withstand lots of damage can be called a "tank"(i didn't wanna do it, but since you decided to go for specifics you left me no choice...).
@n00bdax
@n00bdax 12 жыл бұрын
Jakiro is support with AoE nukes and a little pushing power. There are no summoner spells, though Hand of Midas works similarly. The Problem: it takes almost 1.9k gold to farm and doesn't pay off in gold before you were using it 20 minutes (earlier in exp, keep in mind it doesn't work on ancients and Roshan).
@JLmrtins
@JLmrtins 11 жыл бұрын
for the first question i dont know the answer, for the second i think the support is the one who buy wards, courier and the team items, such as arcane boots, mekanism and stuff, the land support i think is the guy who keep harrassing the enemy heroes, so the carry can get the last hits and most of the XP
@Broda1989
@Broda1989 11 жыл бұрын
Good guide, however there are hybrids. As somebody said lycan jungler / carry, enigma jungler / pusher / initiator / ganker etc. The best lineup is 1 carry, 1 semi carry ganker, 1 hard support, 1 semi support and initiator.
@Pancakepoison
@Pancakepoison 12 жыл бұрын
Initiators have better AoE in their spells and has effects commonly used to disable many heroes in a team fight. While pushers have smaller AoE spells which have less cooldown to kill creep waves faster than any other role.
@KotaTheFemboy
@KotaTheFemboy 12 жыл бұрын
sort of. in DOTA (and HoN for that matter) there are items that give abilities similar to the summoner spells in LoL. there's an item in DOTA (who's name is escaping me at the moment) that, when used, will instantly kill any minion or non-boss jungle creep and give extra gold for it.
@Gosumoni
@Gosumoni 12 жыл бұрын
@jackbwise umm.... he did talk about initiators. Also, only few of the initiators actually go for Tanky items. ES for example has no "need" to stay alive after he jumps in and uses his combo. If you actually have gold to spare after getting your mana boots and blink, you are better off helping your hard support with warding or by building CC items etc. than going for items that help you stay alive longer.
@AccidentalMentalPic
@AccidentalMentalPic 11 жыл бұрын
No, 'snowball' refers to the 'snowball effect', that something small (i.e. a few kills here and there) can grow into something large and devastating (i.e. good equipments and skills and stuff), just like a snowball racing down a hill, gathering more snow as it goes, and growing bigger :)
@thelordofdarkcheese
@thelordofdarkcheese 11 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Lion also has disable skills. He's a pretty effective support, nuker, disabler.
@Redemolf
@Redemolf 12 жыл бұрын
Being able to "brust" or "nuke" enmies is to deal a huge ammount of damage in a very short time span/instatly. Examples include: Zeus, Luna, KotL, Tiny and Earthshaker
@JakeDances
@JakeDances 12 жыл бұрын
Attenuate. Sunsfan likes to make up words. The definition is similar to Compliment, Mitigate or Reduce. To attenuate the skillset of a hero that needs to take a lot of damage would mean to build health items or damage reducers like armor or damage block so that they can receive more damage without dieing. Hope that helped
@mog89
@mog89 12 жыл бұрын
@Dakeyras83 Yeah you have a point. Having solo exp and good gold on every hero would of course be the perfect scenario, but obviously very hard to achieve. The fact remains that most of the better teams usually go for a "no gold" support hero that spend most gold on wards/smoke/detection and it's usually quite successful. There are heroes that doesn't really benefit much at all from having expensive items. Lich being such a hero, maiden to some extent and arguably a bunch of other heroes.
@Akuma2unlimited
@Akuma2unlimited 12 жыл бұрын
@OxMxFxG123 There are tanks in dota but the makers of DotA just simplified it into 3 roles: Carry, Ganker, and initiatior. Viper can be a tank if you build him with Hp items. Purge can be a tank if you build him with Hp items but you have to be a BOSS. And Cw can be a tank but his skills become useless late game.
@HyperGolem
@HyperGolem 12 жыл бұрын
@dragonblade9x Naix is an anti-tank and an awesome jungler. Tidehunter is a support and initiator.
@ashieboy1995
@ashieboy1995 11 жыл бұрын
In my honest opinion, I think supporting is the most difficult role. The reason being that as a support, you can set the pace of the game. Choosing when to leave your carry to gank another lane, when to pull, how to pull properly, when to ward, how to ward, when to deward, etc etc. As a carry, all you do is farm farm farm farm farm, take the credit for the win. Honestly, without decent supports, no matter how good you are as a carry, you can't farm that well.
@misora25chan
@misora25chan 12 жыл бұрын
In some ways, yes since Brood's 1st skill is similar with Enigma's 2nd. But more often, Brood is always seen on lanes as a carry and a pusher.
@shinichitruc
@shinichitruc 12 жыл бұрын
You should play supporter/babysitter role with one click stun/disable as they are Items independent, buy wards for team, death does not really matter in late game.
@ImbaTaggen
@ImbaTaggen 12 жыл бұрын
Two things i love: Push competition! When the enemy is pushing on lane and my team pushes another lane! Its so fun to see who defends first! And who win with that defend... And babysitting with a good ranged carry so i can go into the enemy jungle and mess with their jungler! Either they gank me or i keep putting their jungler out of their jungle!
@shuraikh6491
@shuraikh6491 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that the guy who gets trivia by synderen in ti10 used to explain me about roles in dota years ago
@FelipeIlI
@FelipeIlI 11 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, I've watched this video when I first start playing Dota and couldn't understand all of it, but now, after a few months playing, it all seemed much simpler to me.
@FPSabrina
@FPSabrina 11 жыл бұрын
I have a tip that helped me at least know things about Dota 2. 1.) Watch Dota 2 Mythbusters 2.) Play every hero 1-5 times against bots, cheats on if you're really new While you don't get much idea from how they play in a real match, you get to know all the spells better and can have a general idea of what a hero can do to you.
@Gamesbrandon
@Gamesbrandon 12 жыл бұрын
That'd be enigma, the skill you saw was black hole, a targeted aoe that disables units even while magic immune, and pulls them closer to the centre where it does more dmg.
@trangiahuy260593
@trangiahuy260593 12 жыл бұрын
it can be a tanker, semi-carry- or ganker depend on the way you play and build it
@dragonjohn7445
@dragonjohn7445 12 жыл бұрын
Jakiro can actually fill most roles except carry (Unless the other team picks all squishy supports for god knows what reason), He can move to the jungle later on so he gets a bit of farm for some items without taking lane farm from a carry. He shines as a ganking and pushing support though, as his abilities make most heroes cry early and late game alike, and having some items to support your team just makes you a complete nuisance to deal with
@MrDantela
@MrDantela 12 жыл бұрын
actually jakiro isnt picked up a lot but he can be consider a support-disabler mostly.there something similar to smite.its an item called hand of midas.but it is used mostly to increase someone's income and not to make jungling easier or faster.since it has a cd of 100 and also gives 100 gold upon use.if u want to make your jungle easier you can just ''pull'' ur creep camp
@Makari126
@Makari126 11 жыл бұрын
best dota 2 video ever made
@borjeman
@borjeman 12 жыл бұрын
@MrSilki2 Heroes that dont necessarily have the sustainability as DPS in lategame like a carry but can be built like one and still be useful. Example: QoP who is a ganker/initiator who can become a carry if her farm greatly exceeds the farm of a hardcarry. On the other hand is a hard carry like faceless void whom is agi-based, farmdependent and doesnt require long cooldown abilities to deal damage in the lategame. Other semi-carries could be, Spirit breaker, Kunkka and many others.
@EonRifft
@EonRifft 12 жыл бұрын
Although in some pro team a support might sacrifice themselves for the carry, I would be against doing it with randoms as you do not know their skill level and you might need to be one of the core members if they suck. In this case, consider trying to slow the enemy hero, block their path (if enough hp) or just do some damage to make them think twice. Dota games rarely go how they should.
@da10x
@da10x 12 жыл бұрын
This is a great guide! One little bit of criticism: the voices used for the names of the roles was a little weird lol.
@Frozlix
@Frozlix 11 жыл бұрын
Disablers are more like a hero category then a role. Having disables are not depending on the role or play style and every role have typical heroes we could call disablers.
@tinyninja4
@tinyninja4 12 жыл бұрын
@lloga2 it's more that you build razor as a tank, since his ability static link already gives you a great source of damage, and the damage debuffs on enemies makes it even harder for them to kill you
@tafulcan
@tafulcan 11 жыл бұрын
I think so too. I started dota2 after lol I think that dota2 is better because the character balance is very good so there are no op champions if not sustained and the variety of roles make it more amusing to play.
@kainono
@kainono 12 жыл бұрын
@jackbwise Actually tanking can be quite important on team fights. If all your enemy's spells are on cooldown the chance that you are going to win the fight is quite high. Of course that a good team won't burn all cd on 1 hero, but even just 1 or 2 spells can make a big impact on the fight.
@laaarsas
@laaarsas 12 жыл бұрын
@MAATIR y, "real" tanks are some kind of carrys, they must deal lots of damage and they need much farm. The heroes he mentioned are "tanky" and not pure tanks. The difference between carry and tank can sometimes be hard to define, but generally carrys do more dps than tanks and doesnt tank as well. tanks for me are necro, dk, alchemist, doom, krob, dusa, spectre, (undying), thats about it.
@thiagownz
@thiagownz 12 жыл бұрын
Actually the best tanks in dota are Centaur Warchief and Abaddon (Both not released yet) who used to play dota 1 will agree with that, since centaur self scale well with strengh and return damage, and abaddon has a shield and a IMBA ult who can turn 300 hp in full life if used well.
@cyberneticReverb
@cyberneticReverb 11 жыл бұрын
Farm is well, the amount of gold you can "farm" from enemies, a relatively low farm means a low gold per minute, which means less high quality items, etc.
@aerialcloda
@aerialcloda 12 жыл бұрын
snowball means that a hero like pudge or tiny will grow stronger and stronger as long as they have a successful early and mid game (pudge gains str for each hero kill for example)
@kainono
@kainono 12 жыл бұрын
@RockingTheFro Usually nukers are under the support label (support, not hard support or the infamous ward b****). Since they don't need lots of gold (normally just for a arcane boots or something similar) they can get items to support the team, like Mek, Pipe or Drums. Lich is a perfect example of a support nuker.
@kainono
@kainono 12 жыл бұрын
@SeismicPulse She can be a jungler, but she is best played as a aggressive pusher + aggressive jungler (which means jungling on the enemy jungle).
@HallsteinI
@HallsteinI 12 жыл бұрын
@A5GRedwing666 Dark seer in particular is ridiculously fast in the jungle during the early game. He's capable of leveling just as fast as the solo mid laner. The trade off is that he has to spend 100g specifically to do so.
@msanto99
@msanto99 11 жыл бұрын
A guy with one or more ability that can be used at a great frequency. Examples include Keeper of the Light and Venomancer.
@Kitsune81
@Kitsune81 11 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, He does use a lot of practical terms. Carry = Hero that becomes strong after he gets his levels+items, usually the one that will CARRY the team, cause he will kill all other enemy heroes. Support = Warder (for vision on the map and to see invisible enemies/wards) and supports the Carry, making sure the carry can get his exp and gold at the start. Support doesn't KILL creeps & doesn't farm (only leeches exp from standing next to the farmer). The carry needs the gold the most.
@adrianobrumdecamargo7786
@adrianobrumdecamargo7786 9 жыл бұрын
Because of your videos DotaCinema i learn how to play very fast, I thx you.
@Breeelax
@Breeelax 12 жыл бұрын
This should be a must-watch for people that activate the beta!
@Iblis478
@Iblis478 12 жыл бұрын
They'll eventually make a guide on all of the heroes, if I recall. So you may see Bloodseeker on the channel again soon.
@Rangrok1k
@Rangrok1k 11 жыл бұрын
Sven is probably best played as a carry IMO. He can go support, but that's more if you screw up early game.
@KingOfFamiliar
@KingOfFamiliar 12 жыл бұрын
Well, not all junglers necessarily need to farm. Off the top of my head, Enchantress and Chen are great gankers even right off the bat. I'm pretty sure Chen doesn't even need to farm much to be effective either since he's pretty much a support who just happens to do the best while in the jungle.
@JamesMichaelDoyle
@JamesMichaelDoyle 11 жыл бұрын
i actually did this in an all random dota 1 game. skadi and assault cuirass, mek, and vlads. we had 5 carries, so i stacked aura items and the skadi let me slow their main carry and have some hp to live. i bought the wards and such as well. it worked out ok.
@bentep0511
@bentep0511 12 жыл бұрын
@ThatCylindricalGuy timing is the key for pulling
@TheBigHunger70
@TheBigHunger70 11 жыл бұрын
Any lane pusher are counterpusher, since they can destroy enemy creeps in seconds, which they did mention. Chen is more of a towerpusher, which makes him not so good for lane-pushing.
@borjeman
@borjeman 12 жыл бұрын
@Ayevee39 There is a reason why AA is such a good mid hero. It is pointed out in the guide aswell.
@catASHtrophe168
@catASHtrophe168 11 жыл бұрын
Back in Dota1 when there are no specific roles given to heroes. Where Vengeful Spirit and Venomancer were played as carries. No one used "durable" back then, but as sure as heck they did use "some1 pick tank pls" and they'd go for Axe or som'n.
@MirageVelondor
@MirageVelondor 12 жыл бұрын
In AoDlronMask's defense, he does actually say "extentuate". You can hear the "t" clearly. Wether he made a mistake and actually means "accentuate" or not is beyond me.
@thetrialshot
@thetrialshot 12 жыл бұрын
Queen of pain is more likely side carry or semi carry, she can out carry all heroes in the map 30 minutes in the game but when its like 40mins her ulti wouldn't do much..
@hjula87
@hjula87 11 жыл бұрын
Am about to start playing this game and i always watch stuff like this before entering the fields :P
@MrPrankmastergeneral
@MrPrankmastergeneral 11 жыл бұрын
Kotl is best defending hero/counterpusher. Frost Wyvern is also gret counterpusher because of safety of range of their spells. Chen is great pusher but he is louzy at counterpushes. There are subtle differences there.
@MeeSiamMaiHumSG
@MeeSiamMaiHumSG 12 жыл бұрын
He said "accentuate", not "extentuate". ac·cen·tu·ate Verb: Make more noticeable or prominent.
@EndlessM1ke
@EndlessM1ke 12 жыл бұрын
@dadush4 I'd put nuker in the ganker category. As for semi-carry- that seems to be to be a term used for carries that don't have a lot of utility. Example: sniper. He's a carry, but if going against another carry head to head will often lose to another hero that has better utility (like void with his bashes).
@Bachinator009
@Bachinator009 12 жыл бұрын
No role is truly easy, so it is really which one do you prefer, then practice that one. I play mean support Lich/Invoker/Lion/Omni
@MMoEmpire
@MMoEmpire 12 жыл бұрын
Dota 2 Guide Roles: Carry: 0:12, Support: 1:32, Initiator: 2:55, Ganker: 3:26, Pusher: 4:41, Tank: 5:48, and last Jungler: 6:34
@Rangrok1k
@Rangrok1k 11 жыл бұрын
Look up PurgeGamers. He recently uploaded a video where he and his team wins with only Dire Intelligence heroes. In Dota, there will always be at least one exception to every rule.