DOUBLE ah capacity of Tool BATTERY PACKS 18v 20v Milwaukee Dewalt Makita Bosch Ridgid M12 Ryobi MAH

[@JAC13]

been doing this for years, when a battery pack quits charging it is usually just one battery maybe two that causes the issue. harvest the good cells to fix other battery packs or make bigger battery packs. great video 👍

[@MrGsteele]

Worth emphasizing for newbies, since you show a tin of paste flux open: do NOT use plumber's flux. Plumber's flux is acid flux. Make sure you get rosin flux, as used for all electronics. Acid flux is still available, still around, and it's easy to mistake one for the other visibly. Likewise, if you are using flux core solder, make sure it is rosin core, not acid core. I'd bet there are thousands of toolkits/toolboxes of "dad's plumbing stuff" with acid core flux hanging around the garages and cellars of many a family. Likewise, lead-based soft solders are best (ventilate!), as they melt at lower temperature than lead-free solders, lessening the chance of damaging the battery. Wiping the iron's tip to expose a shiny surface will improve heat transfer speed compared to soldering with a dirty soldering iron tip, also lessening the time spent heating the battery.

[@davidbarker3591]

I always use 63/37 leaded rosin core solder. Has one of the lowest melting points, 347*

[@snocrushr]

18650 18=mm diameter 65 =mm length 0 =round form

[@sixtyfiveford]

You're 100% correct and I knew that too. I had to go back and it looks like I said 650... Hey but a 650 millimeter long battery would have a heck of a capacity.

[@TRX450RVlogger]

sixtyfiveford lmao I had to check the comments to see if anyone cought that too. I was gonna say that's one hell of a long battery hahaha.

[@cliffnordquist3153]

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[@therealjammit]

Fairly close. 650=65.0 mm. "LCR18650".L= litium ion, C=cobalt, R=cylindrical www.benzoenergy.com/blog/post/li-ion-battery-model-name-and-the-meaning-of-the-letters-and-numbers-on-the-battery.html

[@not2fast4u2c]

I Like having tools to take stuff apart that you are not supposed to take apart lol

[@sixtyfiveford]

Well Said!

[@kevinragsdale6256]

Ive never bought a security bit tool, I take a small enough flat head and break the center stud out of all of them so i never need to do it again.

[@davidbarker3591]

For $8 you get a nice set from T7 through T40. You can't break out the center pin in a 40...lol

[@gepwxaqdfsidsesg1548]

First video ever from North America with the correct pronunciation of soldering! Congrats from London.

[@doublewide6]

I like the Milwaukee 12V line, I find them to last pretty long. I also have backups in the charger which is 10 feet away. I like the fact that I can replace them for about $40 for 2 batteries every 2.5 years. Those big batteries would be good for outdoor jobs like battery powered chainsawing.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I really like my Milwaukee M12 tools, I just hate the lower grip. I have large hands but it just seems awkward vs every other hand tool ever made to fit hands.

[@rickyperkins232]

@@sixtyfiveford is it wise to use genetic batteries? I have always use OEM

[@805ROADKING]

Good stuff Bud, the higher AH is well worth the effort!! I just bought a 6ah for 19.2 Craftsman so far so good, we'll see how long it last!! You're right it's alot cheaper to buy a factory pack than replacement batteries, the pack cost $30 and no work involved!!☺

[@sixtyfiveford]

The more Ah the better for long jobs.

[@michaelosmon]

I've been saving the lithium batteries from my wife's ecigs, I have a bunch. I've used them in a few different things and it's been very interesting to me. It hadn't occurred to me to open bad drill batteries. I had a few been sitting for years and when I opened them a majority of the cells were 3.5v or better. You said in another video that makita has a self brick thing if it fails to charge a few times in a row. Well my batteries are makita so i harvested what was good and charged all the good cells so I'll be ready for my next failure. Thank you for sharing your skills knowledge and experience. I appreciate you

[@patrickstockton8003]

Hey, I could 3D print some cases for you! I only have rigid batteries. But if you were able to get dimension for the battery pack extensions I could work up a model in CAD that we could print out. Or, perhaps we start with the rigid and expand to the other packs. What do you think?

[@ysmi1r_160]

You are like the Dr. Frankenstein of power tools

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome, I'm glad you liked it.

[@mute8s]

I love it. Your dog floats up onto the workbench while my chihuahua acts like he can't jump 12 inches off the ground to my bed so that I pick him up and put him up there. Yet if I put a dish on the bed he is up there no questions asked. (Yes I know he has me trained as well as you have your dog trained)

[@sixtyfiveford]

Ginger is a jumper for sure.

[@1waukesha]

Wicked. Man, thats sure a collection of cordless tools! Nice!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it.

[@ww321]

I finally converted mine over to LiPo's. I like 12v drills for small drill bits and small screws. My old 9.6v stuff I run on 12v too.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome.

[@emmettturner9452]

Loved the ending. Pointing and saying “who’s that?!” would always get my dog so excited! …even if no one was there. ;)

[@jasonknight1469]

Love everything you do. Keep up the work. How in the hell has nobody picked you up on a show, or something cool. Earlier way rock on.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks Jason. -Moe

[@johnclarke6647]

DeWalt uses white silicon in their batteries - just regular old paint stuff. It keeps the batteries from moving in the case and stabilizes the spot welds.

[@Iowa599]

Lol. More rows can deliver more amps, but the tool may not handle it! It's pretty weird, but sometimes the battery helps by preventing high current by dropping voltage, which prevents wattage the motor can't take! IE: my 14.4v Dewalt drill became corded…when the battery was toast I replaced the cells with a 20' long cable that ended in battery clamps that I hooked on to a car's battery. Since the lead acid was ~500cca the drill got all it asked for, but couldn't cool for it, & the magic smoke escaped!

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's actually just the opposite. A motor won't pull more amps than it needs. However with lower voltage comes higher amps and that's where the excess heat is created. We'll use your scenario for example. A 14.4v drill may pull 40amps under moderate load or 576watts(volts x amps). Now drop that voltage to a 12.6v car battery and run it through 12awg cord and your only going to get around 9-10volts under load. This means to deliver the 576watts the motor needs around 60amps to do the same work. That's where your heat comes from. Now real world with these batteries. I smoked and melted the brush holders out of my drill and twice out of my angle grinder as the voltage under load drops so much. Since running the angle grinder on a 8ah 4row pack for over a year now it has never even got close to overheating.

[@Iowa599]

@@sixtyfiveford yeah, it won't pull more amps than it needs, and I push until it slows (cause that need)

[@sea-ferring]

Frankenbatteries! I love them!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it. It's amazing how much more power the tool has.

[@dominicmcnamara]

ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR WORK. Have you considered this pet project... Create a frankenstein 30Ah 18V (50 18650 cells) BACKPACK, with a connection port. Probably better to use 40 21700 cells. Then, just create a 600-900mm cable into your powertool. That way, you can run all branded power tools off the one back, just with their own lightweight cable, keeping the weight down to near skin-only. Better, with 30Ah, you're just not going to see voltage sag and you could go a whole day without changing batteries, no matter what brand tools you use. And, being a proof of concept backpack, it doesn't need to look premium bespoke pretty, rather just chonky-powerful.

[@sea-ferring]

I tried one of those dewalt gyro screwdrivers the other day - they are so cool!

[@sixtyfiveford]

I thought it was broken when I got it. I had no idea and it goes against the natural pull the trigger drilling. It took a day to really get use to it but I love it now.

[@gunneralpha7490]

I’ve had one for several years now and it is one of my favorite tools. I have literally assembled thousands of units of product with it and it has never let me down. The combination of max speed, numerous torque settings and instant directional change was a game changer for my small business. Now I have a few of them and even have one stationed at my drill press with a quick change drill chuck key I made for high speed bit changes. It’s also deceptively rugged! Well worth the $100 each.

[@sea-ferring]

@@gunneralpha7490 i am definitely getting one when I can afford it.

[@runiniscrazy]

I'm a bit confused on the balance charging? Are you just wiring it in parallel with another set of balance wires? How does it effect charging?

[@therealjammit]

Old comment but I'll respond: If you hook all the batteries in parallel, you charge them all up at the same time. If there is a weak cell it won't be overcharged because the stronger cells are still charging. When you're finally finished charging, all the cells have the same voltage. When you re-wire them in series they'll start off with the correct voltage. If you have a series set of cells that have different voltages they aren't balanced. If you try to charge an unbalanced set of cells you have to stop charging when the first cell reaches 4.2 v, even if there's still a few cells that are low. On an lead acid car battery if you have a few low cells you can keep charging. You can "push" a lead battery too far. The fully charged cells will just pass extra current to the lower cells. A lead battery can be over charged and a lithium battery can't be over charged.

[@thebeast166]

My friend I just started watching your videos and let me tell you you really opened up a lot of doors for me because I use a lot of outdoor equipment and I've been wanting to get into the electrical battery powered blowers lawn mowers weed wackers. And thanks to your video I should be able to make enough battery packs to last me a whole day. So I'm going to give you a little tip myself I recently bought a 3D printer and it's not expensive one it's a pretty you know decent price and I definitely recommend for you to include that in your videos so you can be able to fit more battery packs if you 3D print outer casings for your batteries that you make

[@ruraltraveler8652]

Excellent I think I’ll do all my Milwaukee like that. You’re right the grinder eats up the battery fast even worst is there new 12 v die grinder just crazy on battery. Nice dog

[@7minibike2]

That e 6000 glue is good stuff I use all the time for projects great video man thanks

[@sixtyfiveford]

They just need to make an quick cure version and it would be the best.

[@kirkjohnson9353]

I never really knew much about it except that some people love it. I ordered some through his link up above. I keep a box with a zillion kinds of glues and now I have "the duct tape of glues" added to the line up. I can see that it would be handy for a lot of things.

[@lordrichard8184]

I’ve been wanting to make a bigger battery pack for my hyper tough tools. They do sell a 4ah battery (with a mower as a bundle) and I’m not about to buy a mower for the battery. I was thinking about buying a different brand battery pack and re packing it into a hyper tough battery. Great video!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Absolutely. Just make sure they are the same mah cells.

[@rafaelrivera9807]

Would like to see a video on the process of how you made the plastic gap filler out of the 5 gallon bucket. Thanks for the great videos. 👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

[@jasonrucker4884]

jaw drop, Im looking at all my older packs in a whole new light!!!

[@johnclarke6647]

Forget soldering these batteries together - buy a good spot welder. It is also good at adding balancing tabs to the cells, too, or lengthen the positive or negative leads to give you enough room to attach their leads

[@OvelNick]

At this point I'm just as stoked about the outro as I am the video! LOL

[@jackmioff000]

Make some speed solder to almost instantly solder them and not input any heat in them, you don't even have to clean them before but you do have to clean them after

[@jojopojo9516]

Great idea and great video. It's worthwhile to mention that you're doubling the capacity of the tools and not the output, in case anyone may be confused. These are still 18/20v packs and so are bound by that limit.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Actually Yes and no. You aren't increasing the voltage but you are the available amperage. Each 5 cell series set can deliver around 15-30amps depending on the cell characteristics. So having 4 parallel series sets gives you 60-120 of amp draw capability vs a standard 2 parallel pack that only has 30-60amps. The shared load over 4 parallel 5 series cell sets mean there is less voltage drop so the tool operates at a higher voltage for longer. This equals a more powerful tool, less heat inside tool which means longer tool life, cooler running batteries and longer life span for the battery cells themselves.

[@jojopojo9516]

@@sixtyfiveford I suppose the discrepancy here is in how we are describing power. What you said is right. A bigger battery pack allows operation at a useful voltage for longer but that, to me, is capacity and not output. No matter how big the battery pack, the unit is still bound by the design of its internals. If the unit is rated at, say, 30,000 rpms, a bigger battery doesn't change that, only that it can operate at its rated rpm for longer. To me, if something is twice as powerful, I'm thinking specific output (rpms or whichever metric) and not time, though it's technically not wrong to say something is twice as powerful if it lasts twice as long. Anyway, I'm enjoying the channel. It's insightful and fun.

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@jojopojo9516 I agree with what you are saying. The thing is the voltage is not constant and changes under load. So 18/20 volt battery are 100% identical and at full charge they're 20 volts, nominal their 18 volts and dead is around 15 16 volts. If you throw a single series row pack on the tool fully charged it would probably drop down to about 15-16 volts under full load. You would see a decrease in tool performance almost by half. A double series pack would drop down to around 17-18 volts under load as you have two banks sharing the draw. Now you take a four series pack where four banks are sharing the load and your voltage is going to stay right at that 19 volts and easily be able to deliver twice the power and RPM to the tool under load vs a single series pack. For example I can take my Makita or Milwaukee cordless ratchet (both 12 volt) and test the no load RPM. The Makita at full 12 v spins at nearly 800 rpms and when the battery pack drops to the low side of around 8 volts it spins at 400 RPMs. At the nominal voltage of 10.8 volts It's hovering around 600 right in the middle. The Milwaukee does the same going from 200 RPMs down to about 100. This is common with all tools brushed or brushless.

[@tomnekuda3818]

You're really handy and I get a kick out of your uploads. Those damn companies sure rip a guy off on these batteries.

[@sixtyfiveford]

They really do.

[@andrewnajarian5994]

Having the fat handle may not be great, but having the ability to put one of those little 2ah batteries in can really help in a tight spot where you don’t have the room for some big honkin’ club-footed tool. It’s actually the reason I like 12v as opposed to 18-20v tools whenever I don’t need the extra power.

[@MrGsteele]

Separate issue: no link to the torx bit set that you show. Many are made of cheap carbon steel that might as well be frozen banana, given how easily they disintegrate. It would be interesting to know which you chose, and how well you think they have held up in use. Excellent series, by the way; lots of useful direct and side note information that inspires confidence that you know what you are talking about. Keep up the good work!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Torx Bits; I know exactly what your talking about. I bought this set amzn.to/38Fia4X almost 2 years ago and have used it with my Makita impact and have not deformed them at all. If I recall they seamed to have the best user ratings.

[@mikejones5358]

I always love seeing you're dog at the end.of the video it's so smart

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it. She picks up these tricks so well, I have to try and think of new things to teach her.

[@adammosher5818]

I'm so glad you do videos like this

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it.

[@mohawksteel2215]

You impart so much info in a short period of time .... thank you. lol, how do you get your brain to shut down at night so you can sleep. KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS.

[@jonanderson5137]

Pedantic point at about 1:55 18650 is 18mm diameter. 65mm length and the 0 is the style of battery. 0 in this case being roughly cylindrical. My EE brain screams at the naming system, but I didn't design it.

[@banga8080]

Bro I'm about to take apart all my 2ah battery packs hope this sh!t works 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾😱🤔

[@rustycrustytriesstuff]

Nice! Haven’t run my 3D printer in a month or so. Let me check it out an as long as everything is running properly, I’d be glad to print you out a few pieces. Just need some dimensions of what you need.

[@CalPil0t]

I'm not 3d printing able, but my son is, and I was wondering if someone has something on thingaverse for this already...

[@rustycrustytriesstuff]

CalPil0t it’s very possible. Have to know what batteries he’s doing to check. It should be pretty easy to create something on tinkercad if not.

[@CalPil0t]

@@rustycrustytriesstuff www.thingiverse.com/thing:3125638 Haven't looked for others as yet, but I am sure they are there...

[@sixtyfiveford]

I just need to bit the bullet and pick one up. Any recommendations on brand or videos to watch?

[@CalPil0t]

@@sixtyfiveford I will be visiting my son (MIT mechanical engineer) tomorrow for several days, and will get back to you on brands. He has two Ender 3's, but there may be better choices now. Also, Mrpete222 aka Tubalcain has done some 3d printing, and I believe he has an Ender as well.

[@sparcnz]

Great videos, glad I found your videos. I have a DeWalt battery that I accidently dropped in a puddle of water for a few seconds, now does not work. Washed with WD40, but still no luck. Need to know how to remove the battery pack from it, an 18v/4AH pack and try and fix. Only about 6 months old. Going through all your related videos. Thanks for putting these up.

[@michaelslivensky8741]

I came to the comments section to see if anyone else commented on plaste fux (paste flux mis-speak). To my surprise nobody else has yet. Great video. Thanks for the great content as usual.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, I noticed that during editing. Doing these videos and taking to yourself out loud for hours makes you a little crazy.

[@michaelslivensky8741]

@@sixtyfiveford I get it. I've been trying to make my own videos for youtube... not successful yet. With the neighbors kids and such running into the shot.

[@michaelslivensky8741]

I just thought the KZbin censors would have beaten me to the comment. Keep up the good videos.. you've helped me a bunch here and there.

[@davidbarker3591]

I did!! I use Alpha Fry rosin paste flux with their 63/37 leaded rosin core solder. Have both .031" (.8mm) and .0625" (1.6mm) always on hand.

[@michaelslivensky8741]

Ghost revived...👻

[@blackscotydog]

Yep my wife turned me on to shoe gue and E 6000 always around my work bench.

[@sixtyfiveford]

They just need to come out with a quick cure and it would replace super glue.

[@Anonymous-it5jw]

sixtyfiveford Would CA accelerator work? Or UV light? Or a heat gun?

[@-fazik-3713]

Love the Frankenstein-esque vibes on those batteries :D.

[@69uremum]

You can buy a 12v battery powered spot welder made for spot welding the tabs to the end of cells for about 28$ on ebay or amazon. You can power the spot welder off of a car battery or a 12v lipo, one of the high discharge RC type packs.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Those are not powerful enough for the thicker nickel strips on power tool batteries. You'll need at least a $150-$200 spot welder to do this.

[@69uremum]

I have a sunkko spot welder and a 28 dollar spot welder that uses mosfets, and the 28$ one can source more current from a lipo than the one that plugs into a 120v outlet. i've made plenty of battery packs for tools, dyson vacuums etc. a google search of some forums will give you all the info you need. You are not always right, ask people who actually use one what it can do and can't do.@@sixtyfiveford

[@vennic]

Black and decker made a small gyroscopic drill about 5-6 years ago, the trigger was on the palm side of the handle. It was amazing, I beat the snot out of it. Then when mine finally broke, found they stopped making it :(

[@sixtyfiveford]

I had no idea anyone was making them. I bought it not knowing and was pleasantly surprised.

[@DAS-Videos]

I will be converting to 18650 cells in the future. I wish someone would make a battery pack that could have the cells put in individually, like most flashlights have. That screwdriver is nice!

[@sixtyfiveford]

That would be awesome! Slide off a side cover and pop them in and out.

[@jameswallace7351]

I agree so much it would be nice

[@emmettturner9452]

I keep stumbling on cases for DIY DeWALT battery packs. I’m considering using those for combine two smaller DeWALT 1P5S packs (1.5Ah x2) since they are already made to hold a 2P5S.

[@PizzaCologne3]

can't wait to build mine with LG M50LT 21700 5000mAh 14.4A Battery

[@shinymud7]

You can dremil out the screw safty nip and use a regular torx. Fyi

[@sixtyfiveford]

True if the screw isn't recessed.

[@webduster1]

Would have like to seen you build the box extension Great video.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I actually forgot to record that bit.

[@hunt4fish]

Great job explaing how its done ; can't go wrong with having more power in those little tools for sure.......thanks

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

I'll agree with you I hate the Milwaukee 12 volt batteries but not for the same reason I don't hate it because of how girthy it is I hate it because of the design of being pulled out fairly easy when dropped or if that bottom Black cover gets worn it'll come right out I've had so many batteries fall apart if you're using the right angle impact or the wrench accidentally put stress on it all the time when you're torquing something down and that will pop out the battery and damaged stuff but I'm okay with 18 volt a little trick with the 18 volt too if anyone wants to know one of the differences between high-end power tools and low end power tools is fitment of between the battery and the plastic casing of the tool you'll notice Milwaukee and DeWalt and other Chinese companies have a lot of Play between the battery and the tool something like a Snap-On has no plates very snug just put some tape on your battery so it fits in there a bit tighter less likely to loosen up and damage a connections on the power tool

[@darinjohnson2285]

cool channel! i made i few adapters myself out of wood and copper wires to jump from contacts to contacts. but thank you soooo much for compiling ALL those links in your video description!!! i came to your channel for your camp fire powered water heater video, but i can't find the next video of your open flame test?!? ..or the previous video of you bending the electrical conduit,, was that EMT tube? 1/2 inch?? would the heat convection power be enough to power the system without the bilge pump?? thanx dude! again, great channel!!)))

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks. Test the heater: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnXPkHhnm7ymqNE Bend conduit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH6UYqWAa7Bnj9U

[@icicicles]

The dog is always a bonus! This video made me think of taking the cells from an old Toyota Prius and make a battery pack? Think you can make a video with that concept? Just a thought.

[@sixtyfiveford]

It really depends on the cells. Not all 18650 cells are the same. Some are High Discharge like we need in power tools and some are standard/low discharge. A typical 18650 lithium cell can deliver around 5 amps of constant current where a high discharge can be as high as 40amps. You could wire enough standard discharge in parallel to deliver 30-40amps but that would be 6-8 rows of 5 in series or 30-40 total batteries. The standard/low discharge cells have a longer life overall as less heat is put into them through cycling, so I would assume this is what cars are using.

[@waltp3373]

If it's not a plug in Prius, those aren't lithium cells. They're NiMH. You can't mix those with lithium and they're much lower Amp hour.

[@alanhunter2235]

Can you please send a link for the screw driver bits with the security tips. Thanks

[@sixtyfiveford]

amzn.to/38Tq1w0 These are the ones I've been using for that last 18 months. They're long to reach into the small holes some of these packs have.

[@ozzstars_cars]

Created a monster! Powerful video.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I had a blast using them all today. They last forever.

[@calvinhe7583]

I just wonder if this affects charging. But this is an amazing video....definitely going to try with the small ryobi batteries

[@sixtyfiveford]

It takes twice as long to charge an 8.0ah vs a 4.0ah but thats it.

[@calvinhe7583]

@@sixtyfiveford will definitely try combining batteries now. Thanks so much

[@bobthompson4319]

Iv thought that they should just make battery's that you can just lock them together and stack them up where the bottom of the battery is the same as the part on the tool that the battery goes in. then stack up 3 12ah battery's if you want. it would be the best thing ever for stuff like the Milwaukee m18 table saw or a miter saw where extra power will be needed to use it for any real amount of time and still have real power.

[@TrojanHorse1959]

Great video, idea, and execution, thanks Moe! P.S. Maybe in the future, you could show us how to make a cheap, tab spot welder to fasten the nickel strips to the batteries? P.S. I love that dog! She just "floated" up onto the bench. Lol!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Tab welder is on my list and I think about it every-time I do these. Thank's I'm glad you liked it.

[@niallwildwoode7373]

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[@TrojanHorse1959]

@@niallwildwoode7373, Thank you!

[@airecraft1]

Do you think you put a Milwaukee lid on the top and a dewalt on the bottom that way it’s already set up for different brand tools

[@savage6394]

Kind of a cool idea. Only problem I see is that the tool probably wouldn’t just sit upright anymore

[@airecraft1]

Savage63 let’s see what our buddy comes up with

[@sixtyfiveford]

Holy Crap that is a great idea.

[@airecraft1]

sixtyfiveford I know you can do it

[@davidcoudriet8439]

Always learn something here. Cheers!

[@Marc-Andre_G]

I dont agree with you for the milwaukee 12v battery format. Bcus with that desing they can offer larger capacity battery while keeping the compact format ( ex: their 6ah when is on the tool is about same size as dewalt or makita 2ah battery ) and makita/dewalt 4ah 12v is almost as big as a 18v so its not compact anymore. That is just my opinion.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Every other brand abandoned this poor design in favor of ergonomics. I know the purpose but Dewalt, Makita, Bosch, Ridgid and more had the exact same internal handle design 10-15 years ago and gave it up. If it was great, Milwaukke/TTI would put fat handles on other their other brands. I have most brands of cordless tools and use them all. I can go from Makita to a Dewalt to a Ryobi to a M18 Milwaukee and it's only when I grab the M12 do I realize how crappy it is to use. Don't get me wrong this isn't an insult to the people who use the tools or love them as I think the M12 is great, just a crappy handle. The batteries could easily be stacked 1 solo and 2 side-side to make them go deeper into the tool and have an ergonomic grip. Dewalt has an 8v line that does 2 side-side cells in the handle that is a joy to use. That being said, working on cars, tractors, or anythign else I have never had the 4.-6ah batteries get in the way where I had to swap it out for a 1.5-2ah.

[@ZeusAndKiller]

If you ever need cells for Ryobi, might as well just buy replacement 1.5ah batteries from direct tools outlet online. They charge $12.18 for a 1.5ah battery. Better than an individual cell for $6.

[@sixtyfiveford]

True but they also generally charge around $15 for shipping. So if you buy a couple say 2 packs at 24.36 + 15 your $40 or $4 a cell. That's too much for and I would not waste too much effort/time with 1.5ah cells and only spend money on cells that are 2-2.5ah. For instance you can regularly buy new 2 packs of 4ah Ryobi for $80 on sale at the Home Depot. That's $4 a cell for 20-2ah

[@davidbarker3591]

I just bought 30 EVE 25P cells. 2500mAh with CDR of 20A. Direct competition for the 25R. 18650 Battery Store had them for $1.49 per cell. Instead of a weak 1.3 or 1.4Ah pack, you get 2.5 Ah pack...

[@Lulanda93]

If your gonna do a lot of them and want to put quality cells such as what comes in OEM go ahead and get a cheap battery spot welder and properly bond the tabs to the batteries. It definitely holds up a lot better than the solder does when tools are thrown around.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Spot welding for sure if you're going to build an entire pack from scratch. However, the solder does give a better connection and stronger bond but can damage the cell if you dump a ton of heat into it.

[@Lulanda93]

sixtyfiveford I’m confused how is lead solder which melts under heat stronger than steel on steel spot welds? No pun intended serious question.

[@sixtyfiveford]

@@Lulanda93 Surface area. The average spot weld I see in battery tabs is 4 pin sized spot welds. They take little force to break off. Solder does the entire tab surface area to cell. You wouldn't be able to pull them apart without just ripping the tab before the connection.

[@Lulanda93]

Makes since to me, I dig it!

[@michaelsparrow8033]

How bout running multiple packs together in a series connection (say 10 x 20V-8AH for 200V-8AH) For a higher volts output different application (Say a bad-azz go cart or something like that) And it would only cost around $750 buying the packs online so: would it be feasible or would it cook all the cells?

[@sixtyfiveford]

It would work just. Generally, the reason to raise the voltage is to lower the amperage draw from the source(batteries in this case). So the expensive high discharge cells in tool battery packs really aren't necessary as you're going to be drawing a lot lower amperage due to the higher voltage. I hope that makes sense. Essentially let's say you have a 1000 w motor. Watts= Volts x Amps 1000watts= 20volts x 50 amps. So you need 50 amps. Bump the voltage up to 200 volts and now you only need a 5 amp draw.

[@michaelsparrow8033]

@sixtyfiveford yeah Ohms law. But we still need to use the transformer for HV morors at work: Volts still push amps, and while the power draw is the same 1000 Volts gets an HV motor up to speed many times faster than 120. And since the current draw stays much higher during acceleration: the risk of smoking the panel is much lower.

[@autodidacticartisan]

I'm kind of an electrical newbie so this might be a stupid question but how exactly does a 16- Gage wire carry upwards of 60 amps of current without immediately melting

[@Xtelligence]

Great video. Can you do the same thing with the flexvolt battery line up?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yes. You just need to spend a little time sketching out the wireing lineup but it will be a simple piggy back. When in 20v mode it is using 5 cells in series and 3 parallel sets. In 60v mode it just divides those 3 parallel sets so you have 3 x 20v 5 cell packs =60volts

[@lastresort1757]

I’d love to see a 30ah ryobi battery just massive

[@AndrewBrowner]

i prefer the Milwaukee m12 design to the other brands, i find it gives a much better form factor/access, the flat style 12v seem just as bulky as the 18v lines, that 3/8" stubby is my next purchase for sure, with the smaller batteries that thing will get almost anywhere your hand will fit and with enough power to snap off 5/16" bolts

[@sixtyfiveford]

The 3/8 stubby is awesome but it is pretty dull with the 1.5-2ah batteries. It's way to head heavy and the impact blows are severely weakened without having the weight/leverage of a larger pack on the base.

[@MindCrime550]

1:47 You should be able to tell 18mm diameter doesn't really match up with a 650mm length, I mean that's 36:1 650mm is 25.6 inches. 18650s are 18mm by 65mm.

[@michaelsparrow8033]

Talk about barney style. I guess most ppl dunno about series vs parallel connections...

[@oxmachines]

Been trying to record all the dimensions of all my Batt-tools sos I can 3-D print up my own oversized cases and then just use all the aftermarket cells. ⭕️❌

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah I send off a bunch of stock battery cases to a guy a few years back. He was going to get all the dimensions and make oversized packs for me. The hardest part is the cad work and it never came to fruition.

[@biggun98056]

Where can you buy the battery cells love the video thanks

[@sixtyfiveford]

Power tools require high drain cells(generally 18650 with 15-30amp continuous discharge rate) which sell for $4-$8 a piece individually. Not cheap. The cheapest and easiest way to buy them is in premade power tool packs. So buying a Ryobi or other lower end battery when on sale you can get High Drain cells for around $2-3 a cell. And they are already linked together into a brick. When you start shopping around, even directly from China you realize tool companies really aren't gouging for batteries as much as it feels like. Samsung, Sanyo/Panasonic and LG are the main battery manufactures and put out good products. There are a lot of off brands that put out cells with fake stats that will never come close to performing.

[@user-hm6hf4yf8y]

I would like to put my 48 volt 18a/h ebike battery in a back pack and use it for a leaf blower. Any ways to get adaptors with a four feet long cable to do this?

[@carlmiller1034]

Very well explained and shown. Thank you very much. I always enjoy seeing what you are creating next. Well done!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank you very much!

[@IsaKocoglu]

AWESOME tutorial!!! I also like using the place ... ahem... what he said @ 8:36 😅👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

I got a little tongue tied there....

[@IsaKocoglu]

@@sixtyfiveford yes yes, “tongue tied”... **taps nose••

[@E.IS.M.I.A.]

I’m pretty sure someone has already stated this but just in case: Milwaukee has a patent on "18 Volt" batteries so companies put "20 volt” to get out of having to pay Milwaukee royalties if that makes sense, it’s not typed very specific but it’s dumbed down

[@rolfbjorn9937]

I highly doubt that Makita pays royalties to TTI....

[@joeguildjr8581]

Can you replace nicad batteries with lithium in battery packs e.g.....all nice for all lithium. ?

[@sixtyfiveford]

No. Mainly because a Nicad charger won't charge lithium. You best bet is to make an adapter kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2PIkn55r8tjasU

[@randybobandy9828]

You can't just keep adding more power by adding more cells. The issue is the bms has a discharge limit and won't allow a tool to pull more amps than the bms will allow.

[@sixtyfiveford]

The BMS isn't connected through the discharge circuit, only through the charge circuit. The battery terminals go directly to the tool supplying upwards of 60amps.

[@rickyshuptrine2831]

I didn't see a link for the security torx bits

[@davidbarker3591]

Milliontronics Amazon...$8 for a set of security torx..

[@tkskagen]

More details on your Dewalt Screwdriver Please!!!

[@sixtyfiveford]

I had no idea when I bought it that it was gyroscopic controlled. I thought it was broken when I first took it out of the box. It took about an hour to get used to it and now I love it.

[@AndrewMiguelez]

This was awesome. I want to try now.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it.

[@kenball8526]

You are a gifted dude!

[@MartinLopez-ys5dm]

...I usually go to settings and listen to him at 1/2 speed when an adderall dose is missed.

[@popparock6506]

love the shoe goo tip! great vid!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

[@nickhigley9231]

I have a question, on the older 18 volt batteries can you add 2 together and have a better battery with longer life?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Absolutely

[@benmiller5015]

Awesome video as per usual from you

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it.

[@scott-kf1bi]

Awesomely smart dog.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Hey Thanks.

[@RobbsHomemadeLife]

Loved the Shoe Goo.

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's my go too for everything.

[@Neuther1]

Sooooo, seems like a man of your skills could make an adapter to run 2 batteries in parallel. Maybe installed vertically?? I don't know exactly but I bet you could figure something out. And it could be cool!

[@sixtyfiveford]

That would be neat.

[@RickP654]

Hey 65Ford, I am curious. Are Craftsman 19.2 batteries made up with 18650's also? If they are, that would be nice to know. I could never figure how they come up with the lithium ion battery packs to be 19.2 volts. I know the old nicad cells were 1.2, if memory serves correctly. I thought about maybe building my own packs at one time, but the cost was so much that I wouldn't be saving hardly anything.

[@sixtyfiveford]

The 19.2v lithium packs are going to be the 18650 cells inside. This was a transition time when Sears wanted to keep the same tool line from a Nicad platform to the Lithium. So Sears just called them 19.2v so people knew they could use them in their older 19.2volt tools. They are still 5 cells at 3.6v nominal/4.0v fully charged so 19.2v does fall in the range. It's not very cost effective to build packs from scratch. This guy has a tear down of the inside of your battery kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIPXgWmil755mZI

[@davidbarker3591]

I just rebuilt (2) Craftsman 19.2v packs with NiCD and (1) Snap On with NiCD. Tenergy makes a nice sub C NiCD 2200mAh with new paper and tabs for $26.99 for 16 cells. Easy to rebuilt...

[@jghorton1076]

8:30 Listened to you say it a few time laughing like a kid. I might just be too high?

[@E9859-v7d]

Nicely executed, I like the part about the section of a bucket to close the gap. If anyone has 3D print molds to create the 8Ah packs for ridgid hit me up .

[@turbovw62rag]

any idea how much you can add to a Milwaukee m18 2.0? how much can the m18 BMS handle? are all the BMS same in the 2.0, 5.0, 8.0, 12.0? thanks

[@sixtyfiveford]

The BMS is the same.

[@mnight207]

Love these videos, Mo. Hey, can I send you one of my old Minnesota license plates?

[@sixtyfiveford]

I don't have a Minnesota Plate. That would be neat. My email is sixtyfiveford at gmail com

[@coptechgold]

I don't see the screw driver bit link/.

[@sixtyfiveford]

These are the ones I've been using amzn.to/2NHQXqz

[@alejandrocardenas1523]

Great video, I tried to 3d print a battery case extender...but it didn't work out. Im not skilled at 3d modeling. I have m12, 20v dewalt, 20v black & decker if anyone knows where to get the stl files.

[@haydenwilkins4252]

That paste flux is tricky stuff. @6.30

[@davidbarker3591]

??

[@stevendouglas3860]

Nice . From UK ,Liverpool .England.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thank's I'm glad you liked it.