Double Cut Tutorial! How to fell a tree that's bigger than your bar.

In this video I talk about the easiest way I know of in regards to felling trees/stems that are bigger than your chainsaw bar. I learned this stuff from a class I took with Inbred Jed down in Oregon called "The Art of Felling Timber." Check that video out for some really big tree destruction! 🌲
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[@firedtradesman]

Your last 3 or 4 videos have been just brilliant. Such a wealth of information. Thanks so very much for taking the time to share your work and techniques with us. I have a 60" elm next week and a 32" bar. Your way is different than what I've done in the past, but superior, so I'll be using what you've so kindly shared very soon. Sending respect and gratitude your way.

[@guiltyoftreesoneastsidetre4792]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@1d1hamby]

Make sure you practice it a few times before using it on a large tree.

[@lavi5hp]

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[@luluschannel9862]

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[@icedestoryer7550]

@@guiltyoftreesoneastsidetre4792 husqrana chainsaw how heavy

[@bobjones8864]

I love that you don’t mind showing high school photos. Shows you accepted who you were, good self awareness.

[@noahwilson6772]

I cannot express enough with words how much your videos have helped me along in my journey so far with trees. You have enabled me to provide for my family in a more efficient and safe manner. Thank you man. Much love.

[@davetobias3788]

Excellent presentation, and thank you for leaving in the errors or imperfections - those are perhaps the MOST instructional!

[@aldente3585]

Dropped my 4th tree using only the skills I learned from watching Guilty of Treeson. All have been safe and landed perfectly. Thank you! One was hollow from rot, well shaped like a C. Would love a video on dealing with rotten and odd/leaning trees. Anyway it’s been a long summer waiting on this new video! Thank you and send us more please.

[@dreamingrightnow1174]

You're the best at breaking it down and making it understandable to someone like me with almost zero base of knowledge. You answered the questions as they popped into my mind, like I was there asking them.

[@kai-rouvenseeger4852]

Very cool, like in the art of felling timber, can’t get enough lessons to build up your expertise🥳

[@Jimmy-372]

You may be providing the world with educational videos and are doing it quite brilliantly I may add, you are also a human being that isn't perfect and , well, that's ok. I, as well as most everyone else watching, rarely do things like this perfectly. I respect you for sharing all the raw content, no matter what. As long as the good Lord keeps his watchful hand upon us, and keeps us safe, and we are ALWAYS mindful of the dangers involved, we get to go home to our families. Thank you for sharing your life work with the community.

[@limbridk]

Yeah. We learn a lot from seeing the mistakes. Perfection is a bad teacher.

[@Matlock69]

It felt like it’s been ages! Glad to have you back!! Just get Jed in on the next one!

[@ericharrington9601]

Glad that they are back as well and their excellent information in a visually detailed way. 😎

[@legauch1241]

One day I’m going to be an arborist like you. You definitely inspire me lots with your videos. Ty

[@jeremybuchanan4759]

Thanks for taking the time to share this. I appreciate your humility and willingness to share your knowledge - always enjoy your videos!

[@petefellwock7778]

Enjoy your teaching! I've gotten many tips and knowledge of how to do this safely. Enjoy all your videos.

[@salvitoregachione1237]

You’re the best, you don’t need to share info with us novices but you do for the good of everyone.

[@drewscreations8551]

Very good info! I love how you take the time to stop and explain things. A lot of guys don’t do that. I appreciate it!

[@limbridk]

You really make the best teaching videos on felling. Us homeowners that are just taking down smaller trees, like lets say 8 to 10 inch diameter trunks, we can still learn and use knowledge from these larger fellings you do. Our bars are also tiny, so it all comes together. I'm extremely grateful and I'm sure my wife is even more grateful that because of your videos I haven't killed myself or felled a tree onto our house :D

[@maranatha.media.c...]

Hi thank you so much 😊 for your help I wish I could say the to the half of how much you have helped me! I'm a American man living in a country that is not too helpful on instructions but in other ways, you have made it possible to cut these big hardwood trees. It's supper dangerous but your instructions have given me confidence to calmly and methodically go about something I've never done. For this poor man you've made me rich! Thank a thousand times again!

[@PooleingGs]

Just started watching last week and I can’t get enough of this guy. Fun to watch and learning so much. Thanks

[@nonyabiz8064]

In this COVID pandemic your videos are a return to normality for me. You’re obviously a passionate professional and I appreciate the time you take to make these videos. May you and yours be blessed Sir!

[@rockymorrow4743]

Me and father do this for a living also and I was only 6 months into learning when he passed away and you guys have literally saved the family business for me thank you so much.

[@guiltyoftreesoneastsidetre4792]

Wow I am so sorry to hear that. I am glad to hear we helped though ❤️

[@samuelbrown1413]

A lot of the trees on my land are in the 38"-45" range. Again, you've given me some Great tips on how to take done some of the older, bigger trees.

[@americanpatriot6055]

Your videos are better than my wife's Hallmark Channel! I could watch these videos straight through Christmas this year. I'm kinda up in my years and the things your crew do are amazing... gives me goose bumps. Y'all guys just please be careful.... what y'all do each and every day has a lot of risks involved. Keep up the videos.. I enjoy the practical tutorials of logically cutting down a tree.... I enjoy the explanations of why you cut a tree down the way you do and the safety precautions you take. Wished you guys lived in North Carolina!

[@flowinsounds]

cheers for your videos. Just dropped my first seriously large tree (2x my 18" bar length, although I did it from either side as I hadn't seen this particular video of yours) and I felt confident and safe the whole time. You've given me a wealth of knowledge and understanding. things that i've noticed that would be great to learn more about are: Sycamore maples are brittle. I've dropped 3 now, and each one was different in terms of hinge width, and each one snapped the hinge well before I expected (20 degrees off vertical). the first one snapped with a 3" hinge, the last one with a 1" hinge. Both had similar leans. Be good to learn more about different woods and their hinge needs... The other thing that had me considering my life decisions was the big one I did yesterday. In the end, it turned out the internal fibers ran at a massive angle, but I had about a 1.5" step up from my face cut (a regular one) to the back cut and in the end the tree refused to drop until that hinge was minuscule (from the outside), Couldn't shift it with wedges or a winch so had to go in and carefully reduce the hinge from both sides until it finally let go. I felt that perhaps there was some gem of knowledge that I was missing, but when it fell, it was clear that the fibres were running through the hinge diagonally, so it was still effectively quite big. Would appreciate more insights into deviance and gotchas like that.

[@mturner221]

Sounds like you chose to put your face cut in line with an old branch or burl of some sort. In my experience the grain will always be more predictable if you pick a straight section of trunk with no branch collars or weird growths to cut your face.

[@briankennedy1313]

Oh my that is a badass saw. Like the dogs.

[@briankennedy1313]

Wtf

[@jimb4978]

Excellent video,which will help me fell a 24" dia. tree with an 18" bar for my next project.Thank you.

[@ronaldwilkins6056]

I'll trade ya, I got a 3ft x 4ft elm that mutates into four 20-24" trunks at about 7ft up...and an 18" saw.

[@murphy4trees]

With all those small pieces to whittle away at the face, the cut would be much easier if you used a traditional or an open face.. angled cut first. You keep crawling around on your knees and bending down to look up into the cut. Up and down over and over again to try to match the cuts, without overcutting to mess up the gun, and then cleaning out the apex. That was a little painful to watch. If you need the Humboldt to save flushing off a log that's going to the mill, then maybe it would be worth the trouble. Or if you were trying to get the but to slide forward off the stump and hit before the top to avoid breaking the trunk that would be another good reason. With the open face you could do the whole face from your feet and have a much better view of what is going on in there. It would be SO MUCH EASIER! Also a lot easier to adjust the gun after the face is made of you need to. At least twice as fast on the face and a lot less likely to accidentally leave a dutchman. Also if you plunged the start of the back cut from both sides, you wouldn't have any trouble trying to get the height of the back cut set properly. You could also center plunge the hinge from the front to leave a post on each side, which would make that cut a little easier as for that simple a fall, you really don't need the full hinge to go side to side.

[@ttoddh1]

No idea why 31 people didn't like you vid. I truly enjoyed it. It was not sub-optimal. The would occur when you landed on your truck and shredder. That would be the bad part. Enjoy your vids. Keep it up. Fun to watch.

[@williamnyce4725]

Cool I tried to leave a comment on the recent one on something like this when your bar is too short.. but found this one... so now I know.. Awesome

[@asimplierlife3104]

If I may be so bold as to offer a small tip - regarding taking a little too much of the hinge in the middle of the tree. When you bring your backcut up to the proper hinge width on the far side, use your gunning sight as you get the gut of the tree. When your gunning sight aligns with your original target line, your hinge should be of a fairly consistent width. Wish I could explain it better - hopefully you can pick out my general point from that ramble.

[@jeremiahjohnson5278]

That's how I was taught to do it.

[@murphy4trees]

you explained it just right

[@brettblack7049]

You got it! Nice to use on smaller trees too so there is no need to go to the other side to take a peek.

[@donniestrohfus5158]

"Ooh, look at that bug!"

[@c.n.h4841]

When doing a back cut Wrap the tree in sting and spray paint it and remove the string gives a clean line

[@kevinamack6]

Nice job on that one. Most average guys like me dont have long bars.

[@Eric-gi9kg]

I had to take down a Locust using an 16" bar Pualon, after my bigger Husky broke. The base was just under 36 inches. Used this method...it took a bit of time..but worked beautifully.

[@treemugg1254]

Thanks for sharing this, this is definitely helpful content, I have ran across this situation a few times where I didn’t have the right size bar with me, very important to take the time to get it right than trying to rush through it!!!!!

[@slimshady6718]

Instead of having someone spot u , u can cut on the sides from the v round to the back and just mark the bark with the saw that way ur cut will be lined up nicely 👍

[@carterhibberson2390]

Hey mate can you do a vid about your saw

[@PimSchouten]

He got that! Really need to look that, the vid is amazing

[@chriss2981]

Awesome work. Love watching your videos. we all make mistakes mistakes man, anyone who does this work for a living will know! Great job man!

[@mattwood9981]

Thanks for the time and the tips.. Keep em coming

[@treesandsomethingelsebigtr5371]

Excellent cut of hinge

[@bradarmstrong3952]

Thanks so much -- this is just the deep cutting information I wanted! Your explanation was great

[@madhatte73]

Those dawgs got some 'splainin' to do , Lucy.

[@jameyhenderson7271]

Outstanding. Excellent.

[@donetteshonna2906]

Very helpful. Many of us don't have large enough saws to run the longer bars.

[@danielchristie7009]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!

[@davem5116]

Thanks mate great video Always fun and instructional

[@mvblitzyo]

Excellent tutorial 👍🏻

[@aaronamoroso72]

Very informative. Thanks.

[@8848Red]

Putting bar oil in a detergent bottle with the catcher is a great idea!

[@zeke1eod]

Excellent video, time is on your side! Great pointers thanks for sharing. God bless

[@henrikl1394]

Nice Ax, Gränsfors, You can never go wrong with them. I split wood for hand and use the same ax. So sharp, Never need to use a splitting wedge. Just more force and will do the job.

[@NovakBojan1107]

Great job.. Thank you for all the effort to film all this vides.. Keep up good work 👍😊

[@Driver732]

Great video. I had several poplars topped so I could fell the "sticks" without hitting anything in my suburban yard. I got the 28" one down with a 20" bar but my back cut was pretty bad. I started out ok with a bore cut but as your video mentioned, I tried aggressively pushing and dogging it around and the cut ended up sloped. Anyways tree came down fine and of course, the 28" bar I ordered two weeks ago came in today when I don't need it anymore.

[@peterpiron6517]

very informative and entertaining ,always enjoy your videos! Thanks 👍🏻

[@unddannkommtbierinsspiel]

Very helpful, thanks!

[@Sc.Luv2sc]

Been missing you! Keep cutting and videoing....

[@TimLPINE]

I just did one of these on an umbrella redwood- 40+" DBH and a 20" bar. Nice to get some confirmation on my approach. In the end I also was a little bit low and cut in the center of the hinge but it came down where I aimed it and no one got hurt (cept the tree :)

[@guiltyoftreesoneastsidetre4792]

Nice job!

[@ChopperDoc181]

Looks like you got a Gransfors Bruk large splitting axe there. Good call. I too enjoy nice things.

[@joshrowe2275]

Great video! I’m glad you made a few mistakes, makes me feel better about myself hahaha. Even the pros aren’t perfect all the time

[@crazyguy32100]

Fantastic video. We mostly drop firewood: poplar and maple and have to double cut lots with a 24" bar since many are >30" but always do the classic cut and hope. Will have to try this next time. I did find the landing noise a little underwhelming for a tree that size though..........plop.

[@hammer1212]

Excellent instructions! Thanks

[@xpslinger8171]

Excellent video showing the art of patience when setting up to flop a large diameter tree. Love your videos, glad to see you posting again. Been looking for a nice felling belt rig, just searched the weaver brand and found it. Thanks for citing the name Nice GB ax btw

[@briankennedy1313]

XP Slinger I’m starting to like Husqvarna over Stihl for felling. Do you recommend changing to a .50 or just leave it .58? Buying a 572xp in October. If you bring in an old saw (running or not) with purchase it’s $150 off.

[@xpslinger8171]

Brian Kennedy I run .050 on my saws because it’s simply more common to find in local shops.

[@digbyodell2924]

Very nice, the thing you didn't mention was it's a snag so you said leave 10% holding wood? That didn't look like 10% but, that's the nature of snags I think is that they don't have swing weight so you have to start wedging them early and be even more careful of the hinge because it usually has to go much narrower to move a big snag and there's a better chance the hinge is compromised because it is a snag. Kind of a double whammy to be aware of.

[@1d1hamby]

Lengthening the hinge wood at the back of the face cut allows it to flex more and hold on longer.

[@stephencrouse6032]

1- Unless the log is for sale, use a conventional notch which is easier because gravity works with the angled cut, which also is better seen. a. Cut the horizontal cut so that the side handle of the saw is facing the desired felling direction; 1/3 through the tree is normal. b. For the angled cut, start with both corners where they intersect the horizontal cut, then complete cutting the remainder. Use a decent angle so the falling tree gets some velocity before the two faces of the notch hit. 2- On a tree that requires little wedging, just cut both sides to narrow the tree. (Note this is just because the bar is shorter than the tree diameter) 3- Cut the far side of the back cut to within the 10% of the tree diameter not cut (hinge/holding). Then complete the back cut by pulling the saw toward you. 4- If the tree does not fall on its own, leave the saw in the back cut to prevent a backward fall, and drive in a wedge to lean the tree over.

[@DiamondTreeCompanyFortCollins]

Great points....I mostly use conventional, but if I want the log to lay flat and avoid lawn divots, I will use the Humboldt... just another option and skill to use.

[@jamiewood4280]

Excellent, pro tip, in production felling you have to be fast so tidying up the face is a waste of time. Also bore in behind the hinge to 'set' it try to keep the bar tip in the same place and walk around tapping wedges on the way.

[@mturner221]

In production felling you dont need to be anywhere close to as accurate as you do in residential. Yes both jobs are difficult and dangerous. But with residential you really do need to spend the time to make your cuts perfect. In the woods, its fine if youre a few feet off target. Not so much when you're felling between 2 houses with families inside.

[@nhmountains5683]

Thank you Jacob!! I hope you got to eat your lunch after you dropped the stick. Please keep the videos coming.

[@donnierobertson3088]

Nice job and video like always

[@lukemartyn6500]

Love the new belt...

[@Build-A-Bike]

What brand of axe do you use? Can you do an axe video about size, Weight and application of axes?

[@davidwyby]

To not overcut the center on the back cut, watch the sights on the gun carefully...try not to overshoot. OTOH, leaving the hinge fat in the middle will make it hard to wedge over. Perhaps leave it thick side and then gut it from the face. It may be safer if the bar is closer to just half the tree than almost the whole tree. Then you can leave the corners thick, and if you dip in too far, you are only gutting the hinge. With a longer bar, if you dip in too far, you remove a lot of hinge.

[@murphy4trees]

you mentioned the traditional or open face is easier to cut in the world's greatest video. SHort bar on a pig that isn't going to the mill seems like it might be a good time to change your approach.

[@jasonmichaeljimenez]

Gotta do a video on the West Coast Saw Falling Dawgs. Thanks for sharing, I appreciate the time and knowledge.

[@jasonmichaeljimenez]

And the faller’s belt.

[@user-wp5fe8ec6l]

Great logical steps to solve the problems for perfect end result. Satisfying to see the final clean scarf cut but then I wonder "htf do people carve intricate statues with a chainsaw??"

[@sugarbushtreeservicezebina3495]

Ms170 with 8" bar is my guess, lol! That sounded like a 661 or 462 maybe.

[@anonimoanonimo3622]

Awesome job...

[@supernube5051]

You got to love tree surgeons ...no wonder it takes them so long to fell a tree. I hope that felling school was free lol.

[@user-wp5fe8ec6l]

KZbin is free. And now you know how to do it 😀

[@Freight_Train]

I was like, yeah I know how that is...until he said the tree is 45" in diameter and his bar is 32". I was struggling with a 22" diameter tree and 18" bar. Hah. Still this is good info and will use it next time. I love your videos and explanations.

[@marklam8548]

Ya coulda donnit with your 22",,, you little beaver.!

[@johns3106]

Pro tip...this stick could be easily and safely dropped with a bar as short as 18" or 20" by boring out the center through the face and then "double cutting" the back cut. I find that unless you are cutting 40"+ dbh stuff ALL the time, short bars are a lot easier to manage than 30"+ bars.

[@lsittmann]

I know this is a Johnny come lately viewing but just found your channel & really enjoy it... Yes indeed as Sir Dave mentioned earlier 9 mo's ago .. Great techniques and cut types from the last several video's.. Great Job, Great entertainment, & such fun for us old guy enthusiast & wanna be's that could never do this type of work for a "whatever" reason... Might be showing my armchair ignorance here, but are you guys up in the northwest not proponents of back side box hole cut with the 30/60 ton bottle jack (tree size compliant) that I've seen on other KZbin channels... Is that a bad thing and is their a defining reason you wouldn't suggest it... Just curious as I've not seen it used as yet... Thank You

[@Chris_Porro_Land_o_Naps]

most importantly don't twerk your blade. best part of whole video. : )

[@jhuntley575]

Lol

[@aborntexan]

Awesome video as usual. Do you have any tips for getting the face cut / back cut level? I really struggle with that for some reason. I've tried wrapping a scrap of rope around the trunk as a guide....helps

[@DudeBellingham]

What’s that nozzle on the gas can that you are using? Good video with great tips and tricks

[@michaelbyrnes1822]

Just water your tree ! From 1 Colorado aspiring arborist, to everyone with pine trees. Let The Beatles fly if they hit your tree, dig a hole on the hillside big enough 2.5 gallons of water into. Repeat daily 2 weeks then cut back to once every other day. Yes if you catch them early, you can save any Beetle tree. Just water your tree

[@philmoore71]

really interesting. after watching a few chainsaw idiot videos, i appreciate the skill even more

[@lashlarue7924]

good job 👍

[@scraytonify1]

why not used one of those blue landscaping strings and a level to mark off where to put the back cut? Just wondering, I am not a tree cutter but have been watching your videos

[@astrosinge5230]

hi! good explanations! thx ! Please, any informations on your 661c. what's the stuff did you change please?

[@steveherring6660]

nice job!!

[@robbob_the_climber]

Would you mind telling me the model of cameras you used to film this? Love to content brother 👍👍👍

[@northernpeso29]

I have always cut the notch out from above the horizontal cut. Is it better to cut up to the horizontal cut as shown in your video?

[@hubertwhitlock9968]

I would like you to demonstrate and show your sights that you look at a little closer so that I can see what you're talking about

[@sugarbushtreeservicezebina3495]

It's a raised line on the side of the clutch cover and top piece and starter cover. Not all saws have them.

[@qstrian]

Have you considered wearing protective gloves & removing your ring?

[@tsousley18]

Do you mix your fuel in the saw and not before ? How do you do that? Thanks

[@hammertime7349]

Getting level on the back gut is where I always have problems

[@kerrysirry1206]

Good video! I wouldn't have thought to use fabric softener for bar oil. What bar and chain oil do you use? Thanks for putting more videos out.

[@1d1hamby]

I like to use a large cleaned out liquid dishwashing soap container for less spillage and sucking the oil back up when I overfill.

[@oscarbermudez9584]

How do you know how far do you cut on the other side if you dint gun in?

[@davidba7418]

So when can you and can't use the kickback area on the chainsaw? I'm new here

[@jnltreemasters1269]

Question what kind of bar and chain oil is red

[@tbabajan]

Is that one of those Weaver belts Buckin helped them design????

[@keenanhosking659]

Really good stuff. What was the axe that you were using and the now you are using a new one ?

[@Ougk]

be careful friend i think 9:42 almost touch the running blade!

[@scotttyler2750]

Is that a gransfors bruks? And if it is what one is it and do you like it for a all around axe

[@trbjrnjnssn]

It looks like it. And I would guess it isnt an allround axe if it is the splitting one. www.gransforsbruk.com/en/butik/products/splitting-axes-en/