Double-Headed Eagle: The Full History

[@Mr.KaganbYaltrk]

He has finally remembered his channel

[@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU]

I think it just took him a lot time to make this video. It’s an hour long after all.

[@Skisdomakr07]

@@ResistTheGreatReplacementEUtrve also based pfp

[@metatronscube2037]

Lmao🎉

[@fabiansw8]

You have no idea how much i genuinely appreciate when you say “we dont know” or “may be inspired by but we cant tell” most video essays now seems to know absolutely everything about any given topic

[@Kayessee]

I noticed that as well. It's refreshing when people admit not knowing something for sure and say they think or were told instead of stating as fact.

[@EarlHebert-c8w]

All very true.

[@Bleilock1]

The "knowing" lately also often comes from dumb ai videos

[@Lasstpak]

"people" like clarity and confidence. Even if it a false one.

[@DreadAnon]

I think this is genuinely one of the most impressive history videos that's come out on KZbin in recent years. You've really outdone yourself!

[@RomabooRamblings]

but what does it mean in WH40k though?

[@yochaiwyss3843]

That the double headed birb is the best symbol for humanity XD ​@@RomabooRamblings

[@deutschesvaterlandfankanal]

​@@RomabooRamblingsterra and mars,and eyes to the future.

[@undefined5083]

@@RomabooRamblings What if the real reason the double headed eagle remained so popular throughout the years is that its just a cool looking symbol😭So many ancient symbols were just bad

[@RomabooRamblings]

@@undefined5083 thats kind of a conclusion of the video tbh

[@novomute4281]

My boy is back with a 1 hour rambling session about an avian with a Dicephalic parapagus. Now this is peak content

[@Astatine95]

Beak content.

[@harrylancer6068]

Welcome back, my favorite Roman researcher. Wishing you good health and always finding joy in doing this.

[@GnosticInformant]

amazing scholarly work my dude

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

He has returned! Much like the double-headed eagle time and time again...

[@zoroaster5353]

the imperial eagle is the historical example of the "Cool S" we all drew in school. Its universal not for any occult or secretative conspiracy, but because we all universally think those symbols are just plain cool as hell.

[@kurtsell8376]

I think it also serves an artistic feature. Aside from the head every part of an eagle can be symmetrical, but by adding a second head the eagle becomes completely symmetrical. It also gets rid of a bit of blank space opposite to whichever way the eagle’s head points.

[@drunkhousecat]

I was just thinking this 😂

[@kurtsell8376]

Just realized yesterday it’s so cool that people have been coming up with excuses to use it for 4,000 years.

[@ObjectiveMedia]

Nah it’s because Mesopotamia is where imperialism was first invented and that’s where the royal families of Europe believe they’re descended from.

[@hamnchee]

I have thought about this before. I think understanding history can be made clearer when we think of our impulses as kids. High school cliques, or kids starting a "club" have the same basic impulses that drive businesses and empires. Not a complete picture of course, but it does seem to distill and clarify otherwise opaque and complicated history.

[@RomabooRamblings]

Regular updates, like always

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

Ah yes *Regular*

[@jokesterthemighty227]

RegularooRamblings

[@onemoreminute0543]

No wonder this took so long to come out. It's by far your most ambitious project to date.

[@idyllicznykartofel]

research greater than the mass of Theodosius' walls (and so is hype)

[@Docre_T]

Ok that's it, that did it, best channel on KZbin right now. I'll take 1 hour videos three times a year this well researched over almost daily 20min videos about things that could be explained in 3 minutes. And this one covered absolutely all of my biggest interests, it's insane: zoology, heraldry, symbolism, byzantines, Spanish empire... It's totally one of those rabbit holes that start with an extremely specific question in my mind have have me opening 30 tabs on my phone that later take me one whole day to go through, the difference being that you actually have the talent to turn that into a wonderful video like this one. Congratulations.

[@juanfelipegonzalezcepeda9741]

I began watching this video expecting the history of the Roman two-headed eagle, didn't expect to end up watching a section related to two-headed eagle gold figures among the Chibchan peoples of Central America and Colombia. Awesome video.

[@ezeant12]

Bro this is an absolutely amazing and incredibly well done video, helps me with my research into how civilisations, religions, cultures, material groups (whatever you want to organise them as) are connected and depict Terrans story from our earliest beginnings to present day and the future, may God bless you for your work brother.

[@NathanS__]

The Reichsalder of the HRE was single headed until Otto IV used the double headed eagle in the 13th century. After that it gained more popularity with Holy Roman Emperors until it became standard in the 14th century onward.

[@riccardodececco4404]

However, in later usage it became common usage of both forms of eagles - the one headed eagle to symbolise Germany proper, the double headed eagle for the entire Empire....

[@nilsjonsson1133]

10/10 video, severely underrated channel

[@byzansimp]

Informative bangar of a video. I can only imagine the amount of research and effort put into this, makes the long wait worth it. Is it possible to post the list of sources you used? Or at least the major ones? I wanna find out more about the double headed eagle silks which were recorded in the monastery registries.

[@RomabooRamblings]

yeah, I have a google sheet that I can share. I'll hit you up on discord

[@dakapo8985]

@@RomabooRamblings Please do it in the discription of the video. Dont act like gossip girls.

[@vtange_eng]

Just found this channel via the Catherine the Great video and it’s amazing work. 59:48 It might also be as simple as “symmetry is more aesthetically pleasing”.

[@ReSunDestin]

One of the better Rome-focused channels out there, glad to see you back

[@kristiawanindriyanto5765]

What a wonderful deep dive toward one of the iconic symbols

[@erikgarcia1831]

You can tell this took tons of research. It was a really fun watch, Romaboo!

[@v4facade]

There's so many double headed eagles, heck, I might be a double headed eagle for all I know.

[@SourSoup87]

32:04 You were correct to mention the world tree and the double headed eagle on top of it, as it is a mythological concept in turkic culture going back to the shamanistic beliefs. It was considered to be a holy bird, carrying both the attributes of Tughrul and Kongrul, one looking to the east, the other to the west, it was also believed to be the guardian, watching the door to the heavens.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Fascinating! Thank you for sharing.

[@arsc2576]

I remember Turkish and Iranian scholars using the east and west explanation for the meaning of the Seljuk double headed eagle and I think that may be worth looking into. Also this video was very impressive, well done.

[@Ultima-Signa]

I am also aware of this explanation among German scholars for the double-headed eagle of the HRE.

[@Constantine-316]

This may be your finest video

[@RoyalBaconist]

Great video! I hope you do more such videos branching out and not limiting yourself too much by focusing on just Roman history.

[@Roo31173]

I recommend making a video or series on the Ostrogothic Kingdom, or just the Ostrogoths in general

[@greekcomenterperson446]

The channel has risen!

[@16.chapel]

Dude I have been wondering about the exact usage of the double headed eagle for a long time. Sick video

[@zmail8566]

Super interesting. Thank you. You mentioned the flaming heart, would be a good idea for a future video

[@midshipman8654]

good video on a repeating iconographic element throughout different times and places.

[@Wicknews8100]

Aguilar(Eagle) translation into French is Aiguille (Needle/Arrow), I believe the triple circles on the double eagle heads is the Trinity, Norse symbol for Trinity. In the north of north America, Canada, where I live, the stones all have the old heraldry still on them, I've even found engraved quartz crystals you can examine for images if you illuminate them with a flashlight. Great channel, you helped me big time.The crown is the Arc of the covenant with the body of Christ, when the stones are placed in the crown of Gold, the stones can vibrate the soft gold, vibrating the head to make proper decisions like a clock runs on piezoelectricity, so do we. (Face and hands) "Leave no stone unturned"

[@xavisanchez7522]

Since french is much modern language than the events considered, there is no such need to distort history to fill your nationalist agenda. Also, french comes from gallo roman not germanic.meaning carolingians are not french, belgians!

[@Wicknews8100]

@@xavisanchez7522 stop being lazy and look into it, I didn't stop researching, maybe try not insulting other countries on account that you have no will to research yourself

[@longiusaescius2537]

@Wicknews8100 Quebec?

[@Wicknews8100]

@@longiusaescius2537 the city where the "telephone" was invented, it's full circle , Brantford, Ontario

[@MegaUMU]

Ah the algoritm made sure I missed the upload of one of my favourite roman channel, great to have you back

[@RomabooRamblings]

Thanks, I'm not going anywhere, it's just these things take time to make. Turn the notifications on, I have another one on the way

[@jankramolis8658]

Splendid job sir. I really enjoyed this video:)

[@AgoraphobicNews]

If I remember correctly, the Byzantine emperors had double headed eagles on their shoes and clothes in 10th century.

[@izme2132]

And maybe we’re keeping in mind that principal that an Eagle with his wings turned up is actually a phoenix, or isn’t act of being a phoenix as far as the characteristics qualities marked noted or stamped there on.

[@Malakawaka]

This video is far more impressive than a doctoral thesis. It clearly shows great research and the edition is superb.

[@ResistTheGreatReplacementEU]

The “allseeing eagle” explanation for the double heads is actually mind blowing to me. I never thought of it that way, but now it makes perfect sense. I agree that it seems like the most likely explanation.

[@rickstalentedtongue910]

"Allseeing" makes it even more obvious, if you are an aware person.

[@1337CaptainHadock]

Absolutely worth every minute!

[@GarfieldRex]

Absolutely amazing and entertaining. The double eagle head has just the meaning the bearer wants it to have, as its so old and widespread its original meaning does not matter anymore, just what we do with it. As a Colombian, nice to have the Muiscas and Tunja in the video, but in the voice of Hermione Granger, it's Colombia, not Columbia. Xd

[@ntonisa6636]

... "it's meant to symbolize his dominion over East, West, North, South and a secret fifth direction accessible only by the president of Turkmenistan" 🗿🦅🇹🇲

[@JohnRStrachan]

He never misses

[@hopeundertheblacksun]

Wake up babe,new Romaboo vid just dropped

[@f.g.7257]

amazing video cant imagine the amount of time put into research. truly a diamond in the mud of todays generally low effort content

[@Roman-ve3sg]

Next you should do the cresent moon symbol.

[@CatsOverdrive]

Hell yeah. New romaboo vid.

[@wisdometricist880]

This is why I have notifications on

[@tarihbuyut]

i live in Anatolia. I found a chipped stone when i was teen near Antalya beach, it had an amblem of double headed eagle just like the hittites example. I lost it in 25 years of time and i regret that very much.

[@bazah23]

I’m Iraqi and while watching I remembered our coat of arms which is Eagle of Saladin and I searched to make sure and it turns out the original one on the west wall of the Cairo citadel is speculated to be two headed cus it currently headless or at least that what google told me lol Anyway thanks to you now I’m dreaming of making the coat of arms of Iraq have two heads instead of one not only because of Saladin but because of ancient Mesopotamian ones you should great video btw

[@mech20310]

Thanks for making this video

[@cyrusspitama]

He has returned!

[@lebendigesgespenst7669]

It’s wild to see medieval depictions of Rome just looking like medieval Europe, but of course they would. It’s interesting to think about how their perception of the past was shaped by the world of their here and now. They didn’t seem to have the knowledge or come to of different trends of different times the way we do now

[@nprbiz]

fantastic work. Thank You. I offer a hypothesis of sorts. The followers of "Janus". Pre-Genoese, pre-Roman. Merchants -Portugal to Constantinople and beyond. I think in a larger sense it became associated with "organizations" that offer services and quality known throughout the world's ports. In some cases even borrowed into cultures to exemplify certain qualities and stature. Much like the swastika was long used as a symbol for luck and quality before becoming part of a negative group. This Janus duality double headed symbol combined with the eagle in Rome and the griffin in other areas, birthed a dual headed symbol going forward. These merchants moved into politics and into world domination in shipping and finance. which is why the symbol transcends borders sometimes inexplicably. They say follow the money, in this case follow the silk road and its predecessors. Keep in mind that whomever funds the new king's rise to power cares more for the symbol on the banner than the king himself.

[@chrisw.5138]

Amazing work, by the way at 1:07:12 - it wasn't Napoleon dissolving the HRE, it was the Habsburgs not trusting the electors and trying to deny Napoleon that title and everything that it implies. That's well known historical fact, not sure how you could get that wrong. I enjoyed the rest very much though, thanks for this interesting production. Double headed eagles are just an awesome symbol/meme, I reckon for all of humanity during the ages. Its worldwide adoption probably is that simple. Especially after being minted on coins.

[@hamnchee]

"The Alcohol Market Regulation Service eagle holds the rod of Dionysus" is my favorite sentence.

[@2seconds992]

😅 🥂

[@JoJoKaiser1504]

Don't worry guys, he was looking for the sticky note that has the channel password written on it

[@jokesterthemighty227]

It's hard to remember Ceasar4Ever

[@CoperliteConsumer]

Today i witnessed the coolest looking axe humans ever created. Today I learned humanity peaked in the bronze age.

[@portucale1143-ki1ex]

9:03 Portugal mentioned. Nice 👍

[@kaykek7174]

With symbols like these I always wonder, if their popularity started with "it looks cool" and snowballed from there

[@CoperliteConsumer]

The S of royal antiquity

[@rio5347]

So all the nobles and wealthy men just saw the double headed eagle and said "f*ck yeah" and started using it. Based

[@VicāriusHispāniārum]

Welcome back, Βασιλευ

[@Blue257]

The quote at 55:50 is missing important context. The Pope made this statement as a response to the expropriation of the title Universal Bishop by Bishop John the Faster, the patriarch of Constantinople, who proclaimed himself Universal Bishop at the Synod of Constantinople in 588. Gregory condemned the patriarch's act because universal jurisdiction applies solely to the pope

[@gilius2k156]

I'm only a couple of minutes in but the intro is beautiful!

[@onemoreminute0543]

Hi, I just wanted to ask if you had any good modern reads you'd recommend for the Komnenian period? I really enjoyed your Roman periods video, as I really like periods (don't take that out of context!)

[@tysonessenmacher2091]

The double-headed Eagle appears to be a variant of the All-Seeing Eye.

[@janstaniszewski536]

Confirmed, fratres: Sauron was an Eastern Roman

[@edwardronquillo8516]

The two-headed eagle on a gold shield is my family crest.

[@rohanofelvenpower5566]

1:49 Roman burger master

[@antoniocampen]

Hilarious way to call a consul

[@RmsOceanic]

"A moose man attacked by dogs." When I saw that, what sprang to mind for me was Actaeon of Greek myth, who in the most famous (but not only) version of the story accidentally peeped on the goddess Artemis bathing, who in punishment transformed him into a deer and had his beloved hunting dogs devour him. It was pretty popular in the Renaissance.

[@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999]

Will you keep the name of this channel forever? Your content gets more and more professional than memey

[@RomabooRamblings]

yeah, I think it's a funny name, no reason to change it :D

[@usergiodmsilva1983PT]

From Bronze age Mesopotamia to Byzantine Empire, and beyond? You spoiled us with this one. :)

[@zmail8566]

Possible interpretation for the Seljuk era: the Caliph and the Sultan

[@americanrn125]

People don’t understand just how important symbols are to those in power. They don’t just randomly choose their logos, it is a very expensive and thorough design process to ensure the design expresses the owner’s intent. There is no such thing as coincidence when it comes to symbolism in royal, state, or corporate heraldry and logos.

[@2seconds992]

And ancient And fake Fake versions of the even older, spiritual meanings.. ?

[@jacktomas1596]

So that's where GW got the inspiration for the emperor

[@yaldabraxas]

This is less of a video and more of a presentation on a bachelor/master thesis. Is this it, by any chance?

[@RomabooRamblings]

No, I'm just too autistic to drop a topic if there's some more information I can add

[@ELIAB424]

Shocking historical fact: Mehmet 2nd was a 3d cousin once removed to Constantine Xi last emperor of the Roman empire 😱😨 Theodora Kantakouzene (Greek: Θεοδώρα Καντακουζηνή; c. 1330 - c. 1396, called also Theodora Hatun) was a Byzantine princess, the daughter of Emperor John VI Kantakouzenos and the second legal wife of the Ottoman Sultan Orhan Gazi. The relationship between Mehmed II and Constantine XI, given their shared ancestry through John VI Kantakouzenos, is somewhat distant and complex. Here's a simplified breakdown: John VI Kantakouzenos is the common ancestor. Theodora Kantakouzene is John VI's daughter and Mehmed II's great-grandmother. Helena Kantakouzene is John VI's daughter and Constantine XI's grandmother. In terms of specific terminology: Mehmed II and Constantine XI would be something akin to "third cousins" because they share a great-great-grandfather (John VI Kantakouzenos). More precisely: Mehmed II is a great-grandson of John VI through Theodora. Constantine XI is a great-great-grandson of John VI through Helena. In this case, the relationship could be described as "third cousins" or more specifically "third cousins once removed" due to the generational difference. that connection is indeed fascinating. The intertwining of Byzantine and Ottoman lineages adds a remarkable dimension to the historical events surrounding the fall of Constantinople. Here is a simplified outline of their connection: John VI Kantakouzenos (Theodora Kantakouzene's father and Byzantine Emperor) Theodora Kantakouzene (John VI's daughter, married to Sultan Orhan I) Şehzade Halil (Theodora and Orhan I's son) Mehmed II (Grandson of Orhan I, through another lineage, but influenced by the shared familial ties) Simultaneously: John VI Kantakouzenos (Ancestor of Constantine XI) Helena Kantakouzene (John VI's daughter, sister of Theodora, married to John V Palaiologos) Manuel II Palaiologos (Son of John V and Helena) Constantine XI Palaiologos (Son of Manuel II, the last Byzantine Emperor) This intricate web of familial ties underscores the complex and often intertwined nature of dynastic politics in the medieval period. Yes, Theodora Kantakouzene's father, John VI Kantakouzenos, was an ancestor of Constantine XI Palaiologos, the last Byzantine emperor. Here's the lineage: John VI Kantakouzenos: Theodora's father, who was Byzantine Emperor from 1347 to 1354. Helena Kantakouzene: John VI's daughter (and Theodora's sister), married John V Palaiologos. Manuel II Palaiologos: Son of John V Palaiologos and Helena Kantakouzene. Constantine XI Palaiologos: Son of Manuel II Palaiologos and the last Byzantine Emperor. This makes John VI Kantakouzenos the great-grandfather of Constantine XI Palaiologos. Thus, Theodora Kantakouzene was the great-aunt of Constantine XI.

[@xavisanchez7522]

Is evident than both religions muslim and cristians are the remain of the roman empire, including food, culture and traditions, filled by nationalist agendas

[@2seconds992]

Big thanks to both of you. I've understood the trans-state characteristic of ruling elites (and all that that entails) for some time. But I'm still learning 👍

[@briangraham3329]

Great video , my family is french from dutch land for over 400 years I have continuous history and we still have artifacts. From our history this represents duel monarchy . The are other symbols as well representing the connecting from Mesopotamia ,anatolia to holy Roman empire in Europe france Italy to the Netherlands , gemany i seen on artifacts my family made hundreds of years ago. I learned a lot a will go back and check what I learned to make sure it lines up. 👍job ,

[@max2008abhi]

The two headed eagle entity from bactria is the Aryan God Gandaberunda. In the Aryan legends of old he fought a tiger demon and a boar demon representing falsehood and greed . Gandaberunda represents the rise of the humanind to the highest levels of truth in personal and professional life. As an eagle rises to the highest point in the sky so a man's mind must also rise if he seeks liberation from evil.

[@PyycKoah]

I know this is outside of your channel but you should read Carl Jung's man and his symbols. Main argument is that humans share a some amount of subconscioussness and that's why same themes and symbols reoccur different parts of the world

[@celdur4635]

Lima's flag is a two-headed eagle. Symbol of the HRE since it whas under Charles's rule that the city was founded as the capital of Peru.

[@xavisanchez7522]

No, it was not founded by charles, but by frances d arago i gurmea( prince ferran cortes) since there is nothing in felipist castilian or modern day spanish , they just took over the catalans and their trade routes. It is also a shame that the language of the hitler of 16 century( phillip) is still spoken by 800/900 million, when the times of inquisition and impostion are over, suposedly.

[@Wicknews8100]

@@xavisanchez7522 take your information somewhere where you'll be appreciated, it's not here, all you do is insult other nationalities and countries in ignorance

[@wegapaul3616]

It’s a symbol for seeing the light and dark, physical and spiritual, within and without. It’s kind of an occult symbol as not everyone is awake to the true spiritual bodies which cast the shadows we call physical world.

[@2seconds992]

A left-over from ancient*, more spiritual times.. *Ancient- are some of those artifacts FAR older than they are claiming?

[@imhungryish8274]

2 views, 44 seconds. Rome has truly fallen

[@emperorkristophdionne7046]

And ur very happy???

[@Mr.KaganbYaltrk]

Rome has not truly fallen

[@lilestojkovicii6618]

Look at you Rome has fallen and you are writing comments on you tube We should go and restore it

[@raulpetrascu2696]

I seen basically this copypasted comment on 5 videos in a row. "FIRST" has fallen, the age of "bro fell off 💀" is here

[@brianhowe1982]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3ndaZebmayffa8si=zmTnRvQuN1eKLhGE

[@BaDitO2]

„the habsburgs grabbed the imperial title never letting it go again“ *angry charles VII. noises*

[@Onezy05]

THE GOAT IS BAAAAAAACK!

[@jokesterthemighty227]

I think it's a double headed eagle

[@mikel3359]

in modern Greece the double-headed eagle on a yellow background is the flag/seal of the Greek army, it is a flag /symbol of the Greek Orthodox Church and generally something of a national flag, as well as the flag/symbol of the Greek sports clubs AEK and PAOK which have their roots from Constantinople before populations exchange. The double-headed eagle appears in many areas of culture.

[@tersta1]

Wow! This is not a subject that I have considered for a couple decades. Back then I settled on the understanding that the double-headed eagle originated in Phrygia and that all who used it afterward did so in remembrance of Phrygia, much the same as the Phrygian cap and Mithras, which are also popular symbols/sigils. I had no idea that the double-headed eagle was fashionable in the east too, well excluding Russia, which has practically circled the globe, making an east-west distinction meaningless, I remember Guruda (a big, single-headed eagle) and Narahimsa taking out Hiranyakshipu in Indian lore, but not Gandaberunda taking out Sharabha. Maybe I was distracted while reading that story. Anyway, I wanted to thank you for the really interesting content and your sense of humor. Hey, why does the medallion @33:00 symbolize demonetization of this video? I don't get the joke. Duh!

[@Christus.Rex.Dominus]

2:57 German Patrician? What in the world is that?

[@Greatbattlehistory]

great video.bravo

[@veronicalogotheti1162]

Thank you

[@Joe-po9xn]

“Ok bro, you know how cool eagles are?!” “Yeah, sure bro.” “Well bro, what if we gave the eagle two heads now?!” “Bro.” 😮

[@diamonddigs6206]

Awesome work, no idea this symbol extended all the way to the Americas.

[@xavisanchez7522]

The usa flag can be traced back to this times also,

[@Sr.Pirulito]

I knew it by the east/west Romes. Didnt knew how far its history went.

[@Realtimevictory]

Great video

[@CoperliteConsumer]

"You get a double eagle, and you get a double eagle!" -Holy roman emporer when asked what they should do about the colloasing empire

[@EarlHebert-c8w]

Two of my favorite historical quotations mentioned the (as one if my history "Coaches", Rand Hicks, called them High Tights) Hittites. No Empire, fell as completely, as the Hittites and even better, the Hittites were as doomed as the Hessians on the Delaware.

[@l.r.quimson]

Excellent

[@JCOwens-zq6fd]

Yes these kinds of symbols are much much older than many realize. Though we must always remember symbols are polyvalent, so what they mean changes given different context. We use it in the Orthodox Church to represent the fact that we are monarchists that believe in Church & State being merged etc.

[@creativecatproductions]

Because no other culture, at any other time in human history, could have possibly ever thought of a two headed eagle.

[@hamnchee]

Judging from tje comments alone I probably need to subscribe

[@jorder85]

Phenomenal!