DOUBLE TOP IS BREAKING SUPER SERVER...

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@leha9con241
@leha9con241 10 ай бұрын
Bro just casually commits war crime to my solo q
@rinaldskudlans7236
@rinaldskudlans7236 10 ай бұрын
Literally
@nightjisoo337
@nightjisoo337 10 ай бұрын
I literally had this happen to me in a game yesterday. It was against me on top and luckily the yi camille lane fucked up a few times so I got ahead with early kills and could just kill them in 2v1 early although the yi still ran down our adc laze
@caioteixeira1541
@caioteixeira1541 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, it took more time than I guessed to people start having success with double top. When I see riot new changes, and them talking about reducing jungle agency in the game I knew it wouldn't take long for people to try the dota meta. Where you have 2 double lanes and solo mid, and jungle camps gets farmed by whoever needs the gold and have enough tempo to do it.
@aliyutube
@aliyutube 10 ай бұрын
I dont want this to happen
@rr211pp12
@rr211pp12 10 ай бұрын
That shift in the meta might actually be good. Playing as an auto-fill jungle is so unrewarding.
@daystormzx2733
@daystormzx2733 10 ай бұрын
​@@aliyutubeexplain why u dont want this to happen
@daystormzx2733
@daystormzx2733 10 ай бұрын
Actually a good take, this gonna be a new fresh air
@AlluckyTV
@AlluckyTV 10 ай бұрын
Riot won’t let jungle become irrelevant. They’ll just revert changes and buff jungle and thr cycle will repeat
@somasaasaa4850
@somasaasaa4850 10 ай бұрын
I like it I hope master Yi doesn’t become meta but I’ve always thought that the game would be more dynamic if supports could go top aswell as bot
@expiredramen3640
@expiredramen3640 10 ай бұрын
in season one a player had to roam from top to bottom we had paths like today jg does until some guy called madlife picked tresh sticking with a ranged teammate and became meta. nowadays top is the lane with most xp and gold for meeles so yeah is kinda thebausffs big brain strategy, gather more resources than the other team even if it is troll and your bot got destroyed. might only work with some champs as yi carry more than a sup but if the other team play along switching lanes it will be crazy off meta.
@Nako3
@Nako3 10 ай бұрын
A combination of 2 going top and both doing camps/jungling would be interesting too
@Стефан237
@Стефан237 10 ай бұрын
I hope it does, idiotic whining Phreak brought this.
@ethosterros9430
@ethosterros9430 10 ай бұрын
@@expiredramen3640 meta is what is highest success rate for least effort with most consistency. A lvl 1 cheese strat where you spam drives and have no jungler isnt gonna go far when people stop seeing it as a troll. He basically elo boosted a bit and will fall back down within the month. Also that clip where they afk top for 6 minutes with no punish means its gotta be low elo.
@DefyingBlade
@DefyingBlade 10 ай бұрын
Didnt he say that guy is GM w that on SS? I think that works tbh. Especially when its a new strat. Same goes w the Janna Top and what not​@@ethosterros9430
@Sora-oj2zr
@Sora-oj2zr 10 ай бұрын
I got this against me in a normal game a month ago and our top got destroyed then game was over. Gonna go and watch that replay now that i just understood what happened
@snowwitch1752
@snowwitch1752 10 ай бұрын
your top got destroyed cause no one is there to even help him, your jungler is too busy clearing camps while no one is contesting anything literally. Not saying this shit is not scum though
@drbidbakpeen2725
@drbidbakpeen2725 10 ай бұрын
who were the duo champions that they played against?
@badbadman9412
@badbadman9412 10 ай бұрын
​@@snowwitch1752ok but why is it scum tho? They aren't using any exploits or bugs. They are using an unconventional strategy that they cooked with their creativity instead of following the same meta like robots. This is how league is supposed to be played.
@snowwitch1752
@snowwitch1752 10 ай бұрын
@@badbadman9412 How is it not a scum you basically shit stomping NORMAL GAMES like bro, if it was ranked sure you gained LP for it but the guy is clearly talking about his top getting shit on by 2 people diving him at level 2 + 3 minnion waves. I met the abomination in my chilling normal game 3 times first 2 i was playing top and then i changed to jungle and shit stomp them instead, i'm playing on Thai server im pretty sure they aren't low elo on our server D1 and Master duo shit stomping gold people on normal games surely isn't a scum move
@AmericanIlluminati
@AmericanIlluminati 10 ай бұрын
@@badbadman9412 You're both right & wrong, players are going to cheese games no matter how they can, and that's not technically wrong. However, it does completely ruin the flow of the game. Now, the blame for the falls completely on the game Devs. Like the video stated, this is a result of them nerfing Jungle. If you mess with the meta on the Dev side, then you can't be mad how players respond to it. However, it does ultimately ruin the flow of the game like I said, and that makes it ultimately unfun for everyone.
@machal4499
@machal4499 10 ай бұрын
„Diving top provides more stable gold income”… this sentence represents the state of jungle this patch perfectly.
@Unknown-gc7tn
@Unknown-gc7tn 10 ай бұрын
Honestly very good strategy by abusing Yi q. The q resets turret agro and since you shove every wave, the opponent is isolated causing huge damage with e - q. This however won’t work against all top champs. 1. Those with heavy early cc (jax e, poppy e) 2. Those that are super tanky early game (include zac and sion cuz of his passive, sion dies but can get gold, xp and kill in return, malphite) and 3. Champs that can proxy the first waves (rammus, singed). This strategy basically requires you to get that first dive (levels 1-2) perfectly since if one dies on the first dive or you fail to kill on the first dive, you can’t continuously dive and snowball. Since you have no jungle, you lose priority on objectives without snowballing.
@LZeR0_BadOnMyEnd
@LZeR0_BadOnMyEnd 10 ай бұрын
Wait till they see Ksante press W
@krulak292
@krulak292 10 ай бұрын
I'd even argue this doesn't work in lower ranks. Now you might say why. Because lower elos do not respect early trades. They will heavy trade with both of you like a monkey, making this strategy useless (somewhat). It also doesn't work against lots of champs.
@Okami400
@Okami400 10 ай бұрын
@@krulak292 your reasoning on why it doesnt work in low elo doesnt make sense. If they dont respect the trade then they just die faster
@krulak292
@krulak292 10 ай бұрын
@@Okami400 no no no. They trade their health even earlier then expected, resulting in people being too low before the tower dive lol.
@dark_drifter
@dark_drifter 10 ай бұрын
​@@krulak292 bro its a 2v1 i dont think that matters anymore at the point where they're diving, plus they have pots
@gervasfuhrmann1506
@gervasfuhrmann1506 10 ай бұрын
Man... Now im gonna get a jungler picking top in my games....
@caseykawamura8718
@caseykawamura8718 10 ай бұрын
Riot made a mistake creating systems to counter funneling in the past. The thing is, the game is ideally played with a carry in the jungle able to affect the whole map and be at objectives. They needed to rework master yi and let the meta change. Instead they have gutted the gold and exp from jungle in order to force a bad meta on the game. They will break this too somehow in order to keep a duo botlane and cause massive problems in the community because people are frustrated.
@АлексейПруцев-ф4р
@АлексейПруцев-ф4р 10 ай бұрын
tbf master yi wasn't the only viable carry for funnel, he was just the most popular one, so changes to account for that had to be made. how they were made is a different story
@pedroluiz6391
@pedroluiz6391 10 ай бұрын
@@АлексейПруцев-ф4р True, I played diana and taric funel on brazilian grandmaster (when duo on master + was possible)
@Thiago-o7c
@Thiago-o7c 10 ай бұрын
nerf master yi XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
@Thiago-o7c
@Thiago-o7c 10 ай бұрын
Master yi, q, is like tryndamere r, yone e, or yasuo passive, they are melee adc, they need survivability because of the nature of carrys
@caseykawamura8718
@caseykawamura8718 10 ай бұрын
not nerf, rework idk what it would look like though. It's just ideal for the funnel.@@Thiago-o7c
@pikakillah_8015
@pikakillah_8015 10 ай бұрын
When farming jungle camps was so bad 4 months ago and junglers realized they should just gank, people got super frustrated and said jungle is too OP, then riot nerfs lane xp sharing for junglers and expect junglers to still deal with this role. The average jungle experience is after 10 minutes you are 2 levels behind, 300 gold behind, and you cant even do any objectives without your teamates doing something. You need every gank to work out to even be even with a solo laner.
@jessehickey4686
@jessehickey4686 10 ай бұрын
Why should you be able to farm boars in the forest and be even with a solo laner who has to spend literally every second trying to dodge/trade/track last hits? Jungle role should basically be a second support, not a carry.
@martin712
@martin712 10 ай бұрын
@@jessehickey4686 jungle feels worse than support
@VKakaVicky
@VKakaVicky 10 ай бұрын
@@jessehickey4686are you iron? Support is a massive carry role😂
@redridingcape
@redridingcape 10 ай бұрын
​@@jessehickey4686 Because it sucks to play this game when you're behind, and jungle puts you behind by default. I don't care if it is "fair". There's a reason that jungle is one of the least played roles in soloQ. It sucks to play.
@pikakillah_8015
@pikakillah_8015 10 ай бұрын
@@jessehickey4686 Im saying don't expect junglers to want to play jungle when they expected it to be a carry role and now its a support role. Imagine if they made mid lane a support role with the argument that (junglers cant sit under tower).
@quieness
@quieness 10 ай бұрын
We should all be doing this now; strong toplane support that can force dives (Like Yi, Elise) and get masive leads to end the game by 15. Maybe they finally fix the game this time xd
@baro4067
@baro4067 10 ай бұрын
honestly i know so many top laners wode quit after a single game of this shit working
@Amaling
@Amaling 10 ай бұрын
That sounds like a better game than one where 1 in 5 players are afk
@daydrip
@daydrip 10 ай бұрын
no. it would just become meta if rito doesnt stop it :P@@baro4067
@idontlikeyou.7192
@idontlikeyou.7192 10 ай бұрын
@@Amaling its not about player being afk, its about riot phreak deciding to nuke entire role so it wont have that much agency around the game (oh ye now its just transfered to 1 lane and here u go with snowball nature)
@xazarl3381
@xazarl3381 10 ай бұрын
It wont work though you see yi has no smite your jungler starts red runs top you now dont kill him ur top laner levels up ahead of you has tp and mission failed.
@Ahrimas
@Ahrimas 10 ай бұрын
Could be really interesting for the meta, we could see a rise in super tanky cc focussed tops who can survive the tower dives and greedy farming junglers who take advantage of the extra jungle camps.
@iRiDiKi
@iRiDiKi 10 ай бұрын
The strongest jungle champs right now already is ones that can giga farm (AP champs lul) and those who can invade (graves, nidalee) Kha and Nocturn are fallbacks. People playing all the tanks and bruisers is just because they're stuck and not wanting to adapt. You aren't behind on XP if you play AP champ whereas if you play a J4 you'll be so far down it's stupid
@krzysztofratajski9218
@krzysztofratajski9218 9 ай бұрын
maokai comeback
@AntonLFG
@AntonLFG 10 ай бұрын
Wait so I had a game yesterday where we had two top.. but it wasn't the former jungler that went. It was the support malphite.. that took smite, then went top and left Nilah alone botlane vs Samira+Lux. Needless to say we won, but maybe that Malphite is the future /s
@daydrip
@daydrip 10 ай бұрын
but this is a no smite strategy
@guilleyx
@guilleyx 10 ай бұрын
Leaving Nilah alone is like the most stupid thing since you dont take advantage of her passive. You just got trolled hard.
@kenkenken61
@kenkenken61 10 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to see this in pro play 😂😂
@SeafightLeRoiTitan
@SeafightLeRoiTitan 10 ай бұрын
You won't because this strategy is not viable when people play together, to counter this strat, just take 4TP in ur team, play defensive, chill and wait 10min : the second jungler is lvl 4, enjoy ur free LPs
@janhob7250
@janhob7250 10 ай бұрын
​@@SeafightLeRoiTitannot just that. This strat seems to rely on yi to make a 2 champ level 2 tower dive happen. Walking up, yi hits first, then all in and yi Q's just before the final tower hit hits yi. Imagine how risky this even is and yone gets double kill @min3. Then you have a useless jungler and free gold for enemy jgl. It's fun indeed but not a reliable strat imo.
@刺枫林
@刺枫林 10 ай бұрын
several heros can conter this ,but if top chose the wrong hero will be doomed
@sergiofranco6088
@sergiofranco6088 10 ай бұрын
You are forced to take smite as jungle in pro play
@poku2869
@poku2869 10 ай бұрын
A possible counter I have thought for this strategy is sion. With his passive, you can start w and even if they can kill you under tower, you still get minions under tower after death. Then you can build tank, by going something like tabis, which would greatly reduce dmg from yi. Otherwise, you would still get something like chainmail before tping back. Maybe going for warden's mail later. Then it would be very difficult to dive you. You could also have a jungler come lvl 2 (though very diffuclt in soloQ) and counter gank after they get lvl 2 from buff. Preferably a strong jungler for this such as quinn or elise. With your jungler and you verus the enemy two lvl 1 champs. You should be able to not get dived on the first wave.
@zluckystrike3d204
@zluckystrike3d204 10 ай бұрын
The possible counter is having a human top playing jax fiora olaf aatrox yone riven akali darius with brain
@NewMetaTV
@NewMetaTV 9 ай бұрын
Or just dont be supp 80 iq also helps
@krzysztofratajski9218
@krzysztofratajski9218 9 ай бұрын
Singed
@mrmal8532
@mrmal8532 9 ай бұрын
morde is okay too
@walkelftexasranger
@walkelftexasranger 10 ай бұрын
Welcome to another meta of "Fuck you Top lane in particular" strategy!
@pxy-gnomes9781
@pxy-gnomes9781 10 ай бұрын
Maybe this kind of strategy is being good on regular servers as well. I played a game on this Patch 13.14 (regular server) in which a supposed enemy Sylas JG (Flash + Ignite) did a complete Jungle Diff against our regular Jungler at least until Mid Game. Basically, a Sylas "JG" and Pantheon MID kept inverting between 2x1 Top Lane and 2x1 Mid Lane, besides Ganking (I was SUP). They mostly dominated the objectives until somewhere Mid Game; but without Smite, in the end we were able to come back and secure Victory (probably because of Compositions and patience); Sylas does not necessarily scales as well as Master Yi I guess. I don't know if it was a Spell mistake or on purpose, but whatever it was, the fact is that it proved to be quite impactful in some way, even if not a Master Yi doing exactly the same steps you do. Thanks for 'breaking the rules' and showing how unbalanced the game is! Riot says they want Unbalance: fun before logic. So show them some real FUN that works! 😹Like Janna Top with Smite.
@nicolasconte1354
@nicolasconte1354 10 ай бұрын
Only way I can see a jungler coming top in my games kekw
@amirulfadhil3658
@amirulfadhil3658 10 ай бұрын
ahh yes 2-1-2 laning. this brings me back to the early days of LoL. used to do this with my group of friends, simply because none of us know how to play jungle yet lol
@kroneexe
@kroneexe 10 ай бұрын
So me and my brother running singed/fizz top in 2014 was ahead of its time?
@NotNecessarily-ip4vc
@NotNecessarily-ip4vc 10 ай бұрын
The counter to this is enemy team double jungles.
@EnterTheXen
@EnterTheXen 10 ай бұрын
Master Yi funnel always makes a comeback
@davidli6931
@davidli6931 10 ай бұрын
But now he's reverse funneling. He get his toplane fed.
@cheshirest9067
@cheshirest9067 10 ай бұрын
Worse, it's double funneling, both Yi and top get fed
@DoYouEvenRift
@DoYouEvenRift 10 ай бұрын
I've seen support yi no jungler a few times recently and EVERY TIME it pops off and carries. Seems op and no one knows how to deal
@mcELINER
@mcELINER 10 ай бұрын
Yes, because counter would involve the actual jungler to shadow top to make dives fail (this would mean that both top and jungle has cc to fuck up the tower dive). Pretty sure this fails if you don't get to kill top in early game.
@saltrxn
@saltrxn 10 ай бұрын
@@mcELINER this would 100% get ruined by jngler just starting top side and pathing straight to lane, then invading into Yi's quadrant. Now enemy jungler doesn't even need to gank to match laners. Pick a hard scaling jungler like Kindred and it's gg report Yi.
@philliprust6712
@philliprust6712 10 ай бұрын
@@mcELINER or a jax that can just dodge all your aa
@haryok8940
@haryok8940 10 ай бұрын
I just picking sion/riven/jax and making fun of their dive:
@xesila
@xesila 10 ай бұрын
hi I have been playing yi with this strat for over a year which I even made a video, but the problem with the strat is teammate who run down me like every 2 game when i play yi like that, im happy someone think to play river yi, on only river yi account i finish master with 65% winrate in euw so the strat work well you will just lose so much game because our team get tilt so just insta mute all when they start to talk and gl
@Freakattaker
@Freakattaker 10 ай бұрын
This is just cheese guys. If you see Ignite JG in your game they got paypal'd. Sprint to side lanes and put a deep ward in lane brush to spot him out and ask your JG to start on the side Yi/Ign JG intends on cheesing. Have them lv2 counter gank the stacked wave dive and you have a free game cuz they have no JG income.
@Richmoneh
@Richmoneh 10 ай бұрын
yeah if jungler can cover until top gets lvl 3 then top should become undivable. There are many champs like Irelia/Sett/Jax/Fiora/Camille... who have incredible mobility or anti-burst at lvl 2 or 3 which I don't know what you would do about.
@nate558
@nate558 10 ай бұрын
Just got to enjoy this strat in NA Em, top got dove into tp into death and left the game; this is a horrible direction for the game to move in and jungle needs buffs to counteract this quickly
@ugestacoolie5998
@ugestacoolie5998 10 ай бұрын
I watch this guy on a chinese platform, the strat usually goes like this: Sylas + Master Yi, there's burst and control on sylas, continous damage on yi, both have self sustain with their W Both buy support items so damaging the opponent top laner or attacking the tower gets 60 gold Master Yi usually eats the minions, unless he has the penalty from the support item, then Sylas eats Master Yi usually has Hail of blades as main rune for the burst early game, both bring ignite They usually ban Jax and Shen for their ability to block basic attacks and make them not very divable lv1 lv1: see if can take enemy top by surprise get their health low, if not, shove wave and wait till both gets to lv2 lv2: sylas and master yi dives the opponent lv1 top, master yi first takes tower aggro, then gets out with Q invincibility, if opponent top TP back, just kill them again lv3: Jungler is probably getting around, so both set up wards to see where the jungler might be coming from, they either base or trade 1 person with opponent top so they are valuable again lv4 - first tower: Opponent top can't resist so they just push tower, their usually get this tower by 6 minutes into the game, by now enemy top is basically useless with no gold and exp. first tower - second tower: Probably both have their first item now, so they just go bot and see if they can kill the bot laners, if not they just push tower, again bot can't resist as well, if enemy mid and jug comes they are glad to trade heads. Afterwards: They are up by like 2 complete items and the enemies just can't resist, so yeah You might wonder why this is viable, cuz jungler gets 4 camps shouldnt they be hella strong, problem is top is getting harrassed and they probably will call jungler, if they ignore and just dive into killing camps, the camps are thicc, does tons of damage, and gets little reward, they won't be in the position to gank anyone, and top's tower is gone. If they do go help, 2v2 they have double ignite, support item bonus stats, while jug only has the egg that brings 0 stats for combat, and there's a useless top with no cs.
@LevelForge
@LevelForge 10 ай бұрын
I think jgl is strong enough no need to buff
@Blackfrog67
@Blackfrog67 10 ай бұрын
6:18 very smart play they deny him more exp but most importantly they reset his bounty, he was not worth any gold after that many deaths but now he is back to giving 300 gold, he got the gold on shutdown but his exp and gold are still too much impaired for him to have a game. Pray junglers don't cover dives though ^^'
@valerianchole
@valerianchole 10 ай бұрын
Ah. yes. my favorite game -- Dota 2
@filipmencl3583
@filipmencl3583 10 ай бұрын
Counter: Jungler knows this strat, hovers first 2 dives and its gg
@KCKSkel
@KCKSkel 10 ай бұрын
yeah it's so easy to counter that I don't even get the point of the video.
@hugodasilva198
@hugodasilva198 10 ай бұрын
​@@KCKSkelits a niche strat which is not known
@asadtariq2307
@asadtariq2307 10 ай бұрын
u are wrong he wastes time yi just dont have to do anything for 2m and yi will be lvl 4 and jungler lvl 2 or max 3 and he will never be able to catch upto them.
@Freakattaker
@Freakattaker 10 ай бұрын
@@asadtariq2307 Yi will be sharing exp and the JG will go screw off to his other quadrants of the map and come back to break freeze later. It's not gonna work when the cheese is so easy to read with Ignite no smite JG.
@ethosterros9430
@ethosterros9430 10 ай бұрын
Yea has to be bronze with no jg or sup coming for 6 min
@ArthurGenius
@ArthurGenius 10 ай бұрын
imo it's more of a cheese strat and can be countered if ppl get used to it and start to understand it
@BlazingMagpie
@BlazingMagpie 9 ай бұрын
This strategy should be easy to shut down, especially if you know it's coming straight from loading screen: 1. Jungler should start clearing only top for first levels and clear the camps if a way he can rotate for your tower level 2 (be on krugs or gromp depending on side). 2. Top should only try to stay in exp range, retreat to tower if not possible. 3. If they crash wave 2, jungler moves towards top tower to prevent dive. 4. If initial dive doesn't happen, jungler starts vertically jungling on top side to be ready to clean up any attempted dives.
@YuhengGuo-i9p
@YuhengGuo-i9p 9 ай бұрын
The name of the originator of this video is "mortal-blade", the blade in game sekiro ; shadow died twice.
@TheKaratejesus
@TheKaratejesus 10 ай бұрын
This would work best if one of your teammates takes unsealed for getting a single use smite for a baron to end the game
@cronosdimitri4584
@cronosdimitri4584 10 ай бұрын
smite without jungle item aint outsmiting enemy jungler, just gotta force fight before and kill enemy jungler
@TheKaratejesus
@TheKaratejesus 10 ай бұрын
@@cronosdimitri4584 it does actually do the same as the enemy jungler's smite. It's based on number of spell swaps you have done.
@xmalin1
@xmalin1 10 ай бұрын
​@@cronosdimitri4584smite via spellbook upgrades
@marianorivera3272
@marianorivera3272 10 ай бұрын
I just played Garen into a Gragas×Kayne top duo and I"m honestly not sure what to think of it. 1 didn't die but I was way behind in CS and I really didn't have fun even if we won because their top duo didn't create enough pressure to counterbalance their lack of jungler.
@shuowang-gm3gz
@shuowang-gm3gz 10 ай бұрын
their jungle has no money if he choose to 2v2, besides ,it's hard to fight against Yi and thief man because your jungle egg has no numerical addition and they have two fire
@Lukz99
@Lukz99 10 ай бұрын
i dont get the part that they are playing on 14.1 now
@Legaliaaa
@Legaliaaa 10 ай бұрын
tried this, if u have an early game top its literally unbeatable. yi can almost solo dive any top alone just lvl 2 to 1 with ignite and if their jungler doenst counter gank the 1st dive the game is completely over
@ferhatius3943
@ferhatius3943 10 ай бұрын
I feel like this could also be really strong with shaco who just puts boxes so the Jungler doesn't come xd or elise with her diving potential as well
@enginsama4204
@enginsama4204 10 ай бұрын
I am beta player and i am jungle main. This season i stopped playing lol because jungle is never have been weak like that.
@sakeb1
@sakeb1 9 ай бұрын
what if the enemy jg starts top camp, gets level 2, and busts you both when you are both level 1?
@tomaszducki9155
@tomaszducki9155 10 ай бұрын
Ironic, start to learn the game by playing duo top, get good enough to play jg, get even better and return to duo top 😅
@H3xCore
@H3xCore 10 ай бұрын
so technically season2 all over again?
@OdronoeL
@OdronoeL 9 ай бұрын
What are the master yi and ornn runes? whats the orn build?
@Oinkiepiggy
@Oinkiepiggy 10 ай бұрын
song list please
@hisoka8202
@hisoka8202 10 ай бұрын
Counters : Yi ban or Jax top picked coz only Yi can rly do that lvl 1 and 2 and Jax has E champions like Garen with W start or champs that are hard to dive lvl 1 like Sett W start are also probably a counter to that, coz if u don't take a lead early u instantly lose the game right since u can't snowball and ennemy top isn't behind and has exp x2 like ur jungler
@wxShenronLoL
@wxShenronLoL 10 ай бұрын
jax e doesn't stop yi u know that right XD, it might save him level1 but then they will dive jax when the wave crashed and gl, and what garen is gonna pick w first.
@hisoka8202
@hisoka8202 10 ай бұрын
@@wxShenronLoL if they want to dive Jax presses E and they just don't have enough dmg to dive him wdym, lvl 2 Yi can only auto attack and Q, master yi Q applies on hit and Jax E blocks on hit dmg, the other champion will also rely a lot on auto attacking lvl 2 if u see no jungler u know u're getting cheesed so u just pick W and respect, if u don't let ennemy team cheese early they can't snowball and it's basically ff for them u just go in exp range so u don't get chunked and u're not divable
@wxShenronLoL
@wxShenronLoL 10 ай бұрын
@@hisoka8202 no i don't think you read what i said. if jax doesn't get lvl 1 e his dead. but if he does then yi and X will crash the wave, yi gets his first strike passive by hitting the turret on minions, then they will engage. if jax presses e, yi will tank the turret for 1sec till it's guaranteed that even if jax hold's his e it won't hit yi. and they just dive him after that, ez. also, u're not gonna outpush 2 players, and if you try to do anything against it you're dead, cuz yi is simply the highest dps champion. if you don't believe in yi dives then look in yt lol dobby yi top :)
@hisoka8202
@hisoka8202 10 ай бұрын
@@wxShenronLoL why would u want to push lol ? u're 1v2, just stay in exp range and don't lose HP jax always take E lvl 1 99.9% of the time have u ever played yi vs jax ? jax E lasts longer than yi Q, so Yi just gets stunned at the end of the counterstrike => he takes dmg and he can't auto Jax coz he's stunned yi Q is on-hit and jax E blocks on-hit so u'll take very low dmg, + the other champ is lvl 2 so he only has 2 abilities, most dmg u deal lvl 1 and 2 are from auto attacks also u can just leash ur jungler that starts topside and then he comes top, u start 2v2 but ur jungler is lvl 2 and they're both lvl 1 and u take prio, if u don't have prio anyway u won game since ennemy didn't kill you with their cheese
@wxShenronLoL
@wxShenronLoL 10 ай бұрын
@@hisoka8202 what jungler? you are jungler playing double top as the support, i think we're not on the same page here are we? also yi q is 1 sec, jax e duration is 2sec, after 1 sec jax can recast his e to stun faster. which means if you wait 1 sec + 0.1 sec you won't get hit. usually what yi players do there is hold their w or get their double strike before they q. if you are yi otp you win this, mby if you aren't then you could lose that fight but otherwise yi wins this 100%
@timtam861
@timtam861 10 ай бұрын
the clips only showed quite squishy champs lvl 1 like yone and trynda, i doubt this would work against someone like jax or ornn or a range champ like kennen
@Blud-chan
@Blud-chan 10 ай бұрын
And then the enemy jungle comes on any of the dives, kills you both and the game is over at 2:20 gj
@ClickHere4Naruto
@ClickHere4Naruto 10 ай бұрын
You have 4 wards it's pretty easy to avoid
@rexofired
@rexofired 9 ай бұрын
Had this happen to me, Riven and Master Yi vs Garen that was not a fun experience. Feels even worse as I got flamed for dying to them under turret level 2.
@Light-qi8ol
@Light-qi8ol 10 ай бұрын
its like season3 and earlier normal queue. many times there would be noone playing jungler. sometimes only one team had a jungler.
@sonnenblume4
@sonnenblume4 10 ай бұрын
had this exact pair top (yi sylas) but sylas also went support item like an idiot so he had no income because of csing. If the enemy team is smart and play slow, they can just get every obj easily and outscale dpeending on their comp. I remember i was very frustrated playing with this because the yi was full build at 20mins but somehow couldnt carry and died to any cc lol while we had no jg and played 2vs3 bot since the enemy jg was smart enough to camp our weakside. Their aatrox who had like 15 deaths? Still more useful than the sylas lmfao
@angelfury8182
@angelfury8182 10 ай бұрын
I've been trying double top with smite ever since season 14 items hit the PBE. The main problem is that the enemy top laner and enemy jungler will be ahead of both of you in levels. You lose fights easily due to being underleveled. The most success I had was a Ziggs top and Ivern top with smite. The strategy was to steal jungle camps and break the enemy top tower as fast as possible.
@ignacioperez5479
@ignacioperez5479 9 ай бұрын
take the smite out of the equation, remember it nerf the exp you get
@mbirdymanaphon4265
@mbirdymanaphon4265 10 ай бұрын
Wait LPL server already get to play the new map?
@NickT00nY
@NickT00nY 10 ай бұрын
that yone has swiftness boots, how can I take this vid seriously?
@Szu-lul
@Szu-lul 9 ай бұрын
I don't believe this is in any way viable once this strat is known. I would imagine there are so many strats to counter this and once top laner is somewhat stable the game is basically over. Every other lane will win on average because no jungle pressure. Literally no objective control. It is just an early game cheese strat that loses you the game if it doesn't work out.
@geegee5970
@geegee5970 10 ай бұрын
S14 is out in China?
@Cyd99
@Cyd99 10 ай бұрын
So.. what happens when the enemy jungler just goes red then top
@Unknown-gc7tn
@Unknown-gc7tn 10 ай бұрын
Wait… what if they get a Elise-Yi or Kled-Yi duo top… they have double dive disengage…
@user-cl6rr8ih8t
@user-cl6rr8ih8t 10 ай бұрын
Whats the name of the anime at the beginning ?
@JacquesWarny-dl1js
@JacquesWarny-dl1js 9 ай бұрын
i think jungler vids are the best cuz it's the only role that concerns every lane we need more of that
@ugestacoolie5998
@ugestacoolie5998 10 ай бұрын
I watch this guy on a chinese platform, the strat usually goes like this: Sylas + Master Yi, there's burst and control on sylas, continous damage on yi, both have self sustain with their W Both buy support items so damaging the opponent top laner or attacking the tower gets 60 gold Master Yi usually eats the minions, unless he has the penalty from the support item, then Sylas eats Master Yi usually has Hail of blades as main rune for the burst early game, both bring ignite They usually ban Jax and Shen for their ability to block basic attacks and make them not very divable lv1 lv1: see if can take enemy top by surprise get their health low, if not, shove wave and wait till both gets to lv2 lv2: sylas and master yi dives the opponent lv1 top, master yi first takes tower aggro, then gets out with Q invincibility, if opponent top TP back, just kill them again lv3: Jungler is probably getting around, so both set up wards to see where the jungler might be coming from, they either base or trade 1 person with opponent top so they are valuable again lv4 - first tower: Opponent top can't resist so they just push tower, their usually get this tower by 6 minutes into the game, by now enemy top is basically useless with no gold and exp. first tower - second tower: Probably both have their first item now, so they just go bot and see if they can kill the bot laners, if not they just push tower, again bot can't resist as well, if enemy mid and jug comes they are glad to trade heads. Afterwards: They are up by like 2 complete items and the enemies just can't resist, so yeah
@lolborq
@lolborq 10 ай бұрын
can you post the guy's channel? i speak chinese and would like to watch more of his videos :D
@soma3093
@soma3093 10 ай бұрын
@@lolborq platform:bilibili, id:不死斩剑圣。
@Szu-lul
@Szu-lul 9 ай бұрын
I like how you say "just kill them again" if they tp like they didn't just lose 80% of hp for their first dive
@Blitzkit
@Blitzkit 9 ай бұрын
now this is the new "gold funnel" comp for this season? too many factors played to this. - new jungle change - map change (more symmetrical) - no more stopwatch and such this is basically pos4 in dota2 where you become a menace and stop your matchup to farm fortunately master yi is probably the only capable champ that can be mobile and has a broken tower reset mechanics (vlad with his pool of blood, but yeah, he scales and has long cd on that pool) I'm more curious how riot will answer with the next patch. either re-buff jungle again or nerf everyone else (by having another weird xp/gold change)
@jurekandrzejewski6671
@jurekandrzejewski6671 10 ай бұрын
isnt it nerfed when you have 2 support items in your team?
@menchoxe5544
@menchoxe5544 10 ай бұрын
Ok now we really have a video that breaks the server.
@graziamaravalli1925
@graziamaravalli1925 10 ай бұрын
This strategy is terrible. So easy to counter and put the double top extremely behind and auto lose the game However i really hope it will become popular so riot games will be forced to buff the fuckin jungle BRING BACK THE GOLDEN AGE OF JUNGLE: SEASON 6!!!!
@maestrofrags3436
@maestrofrags3436 9 ай бұрын
thats how usless jungle became
@jakobkivil1125
@jakobkivil1125 10 ай бұрын
Time to go ranked and if team suspicious link incoming !
@thiccbutt1835
@thiccbutt1835 10 ай бұрын
hahahahaa
@thoren01
@thoren01 10 ай бұрын
finally the AJA prophecy is foretold
@azurehecate4882
@azurehecate4882 10 ай бұрын
why top tower don't have shield? before 5 min
@vgamedude12
@vgamedude12 10 ай бұрын
Finally different strategies in this game. I give it a month before riot and adc mains bitch and complain that the game is actually being different and they change it. Any time literally anyone else carries the game all the marksman babies line up to whine that their 10+ year monopoly on the carry role is challenged.
@mapachett2979
@mapachett2979 10 ай бұрын
el top enemigo: estoy cansado jefe xd
@Vladivoz
@Vladivoz 9 ай бұрын
Just had this shit in a D2 game where BOTH junglers nunu & yi did this strat everyone was completely confused but we somehow ended up stomping so I won't complain
@goldenarmour7975
@goldenarmour7975 9 ай бұрын
Riot put Junglers in a corner so ofc this was bound to happen.
@CountetPK
@CountetPK 10 ай бұрын
Удивительно, ни разу в их игре не увидел танка на топе. Одни сквиши. Как удобно.
@chillguyyy
@chillguyyy 10 ай бұрын
does china already have 14.1 changes?
@001vamp
@001vamp 10 ай бұрын
seems like the super server has been running 14.1 games, since its just the super server im gonna say they don’t have the patch yet and itll be a global release
@Soriichi
@Soriichi 10 ай бұрын
If you try this in low elo. Youre just asking for your account to get banned. They wont be able to wrap their head around such a strategy.
@anhucnguyen155
@anhucnguyen155 10 ай бұрын
We're just goona play dota in 2024 League
@paynedesu6204
@paynedesu6204 10 ай бұрын
And people still claim that Jungle is broken.
@aymanelkati3500
@aymanelkati3500 9 ай бұрын
support should go top as fast as possible, and jungler should path top early to help
@GriffinHQ
@GriffinHQ 10 ай бұрын
people say jg is op but dont realize literally anyone can ruin the game for others, this just shows jg is actually WEAK cause look how much more gold and income you generate by just simply not going in the jungle lol
@Kultyras
@Kultyras 10 ай бұрын
Song please, its for a science project :DarudeSandstorm:
@aryados1520
@aryados1520 10 ай бұрын
It just proves how broken the gold generation of support items is.
@whimsicalchronicles8798
@whimsicalchronicles8798 10 ай бұрын
ah yes getting 7 kills in 5 minutes is definitely a problem with the support item giving too much gold
@matheuskirisame
@matheuskirisame 10 ай бұрын
Really nice way to play the game, but knowing how Riot nerfs any fun strategy they'll force the jg role to be smite locked and earn less money and xp from plating and minions early game to avoid it
@sedrickthompson8049
@sedrickthompson8049 10 ай бұрын
I hate this strat as a jungler but it’s funny how a way to stop this strat is to nerf jng even more lol
@matheuskirisame
@matheuskirisame 10 ай бұрын
@@sedrickthompson8049 It's sad how jg is nerfed everytime something off-meta turns meta in the game, that's why i started to play mid with roaming champions to at least play "somewhat" equal to being in the jungle.
@Nightwalk444
@Nightwalk444 6 ай бұрын
This is just River Shen lmao
@seriogamarkovas5407
@seriogamarkovas5407 9 ай бұрын
🗣‼🔥🔥 WE GETTING DISOWNED WITH THIS ONE LETS GOO!!
@AASHHASHASHASHASHHA
@AASHHASHASHASHASHHA 10 ай бұрын
I legit locked in Master Yi jungle, but because my team troll picked I decided to take ignite instead of smite to force someone to dodge. No one dodged. But we won. And we won easily.
@L0Ls0ul
@L0Ls0ul 10 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear, my top laner rage quit
@DisastrousCake
@DisastrousCake 10 ай бұрын
I really like it, but I highly doubt Riot will allow this to be meta for any remarkable period of time. They seem to hate innovations like this to the meta. At some point they decided the game should always be 1 top, 1 jungle, 1 mid, and 2 bottom. It also seems like a very difficult strategy to pull off, so I don't see it have much success below masters because all of those players are too used to playing the standard way.
@nanashialfarr
@nanashialfarr 9 ай бұрын
They mostly will nerf support itens I guess.
@fabricionbraga
@fabricionbraga 10 ай бұрын
Remember, Agurin took rank 1 doing the exactly opposite of this
@adhirajdhyani
@adhirajdhyani 9 ай бұрын
Is it neccessary to have Yi in a double top strategy? I'd love to try this strategy with some other champ that can be as good or better than Yi. If anyone has any recommendations, pls give.
@taroken8846
@taroken8846 9 ай бұрын
Yi is great since he dive and change turret agro to minions , mabye elise can work but i'm not sure if her dmg can match yi and caccon is harder to land than Yi Q
@adhirajdhyani
@adhirajdhyani 9 ай бұрын
@@taroken8846 That's a fair point I guess. I have tried a couple of champs for the double top strat but so far only I have been successful only on Warwick, that too simply because the enemy made a mistake of having a 1v1/1v2 trade vs my champ. I guess I'll have to practice Yi to make this strat work.
@vasilandreev6617
@vasilandreev6617 10 ай бұрын
Ok.. thats disgusting. Unfortunately my team would never help execute it
@njm92495
@njm92495 10 ай бұрын
i never understood why jg never went bot like that. 3v2, push turret then 2 bot goes mid making it 3v1
@vymere9728
@vymere9728 9 ай бұрын
I mean they basically showed this against Yone, Yasuo i believe and Trynd. It would be more impressive if he did that on Darius, Urgot, Volibear or K'sante. Champs that actually are played top. I get the strategy but I doubt you can use it every game regardless if you win or not.
@MaD0915
@MaD0915 9 ай бұрын
If the enemy jg has a brain , its insta top invade. Majority of top lane champs can play under tower and outscale. No obj prio, helpless boy and mid, down lvls.
@calenholden7691
@calenholden7691 10 ай бұрын
Jungle is still broken but support items are even more broken
@ClickHere4Naruto
@ClickHere4Naruto 10 ай бұрын
Nah jungle isn't broken Jungle should be broken as that's just how the role is meant to be balanced, they say they want more champions in jgl but keep taking resources away from jungle, leaving farming junglers starved.
@arutoria1541
@arutoria1541 10 ай бұрын
I tried this for a month, ez to win in 5v5, not ez in solo/double. Nobody thinks no smite meta can win😢 We claimed it is Korean meta to comfort teammates but actually it’s from china
@geni_fetahu
@geni_fetahu 10 ай бұрын
If people start doing this they are going to have to buff jg again. I hope it doesn’t catch on.
@gustavo18x
@gustavo18x 10 ай бұрын
this skin came with fiora project riot telling future of master yi top meta XD
@TheRawJaws
@TheRawJaws 10 ай бұрын
I think its hard to play. Well imagine this: you go duo top, but enemy has a bard roaming up and jungle coming early levels to stop you from killing top. And top knowing its double top against him, doesnt walk up like a bot, but wards the middle bush and stays in exp range. Now your bot lane needs to be a heavy poke lane right, otherwise you cant kill the enemy adc. Watching this video I got the expression of enemy watchingtop like a cuckold, meanwhile it wouldnt be so hard to counterplay "chinese super server"
@GrahamNostale
@GrahamNostale 10 ай бұрын
Man this is so fun I even won a 4v5 easily wtf Thank you for this bilibili cooking
@Roziu135
@Roziu135 10 ай бұрын
Why your videos look like 360p?
@BlueJoobYTGaming
@BlueJoobYTGaming 10 ай бұрын
This only works cuz they won top in NA they would be bad and be behind if u just play vayne top or range
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