Doublelift - IS APHELIOS OP?

[@18skeltor]

2:06 " S H O R T R A N G E D "

[@sukithdayaratne2572]

Aphelios is the literal embodiment of "Blink and you'll miss it."

[@rayxiang6874]

It’s more of a statement than a question tbh

[@Mournlied]

is more like "I don't need to know what I'm doing, it just work"

[@amirahani3196]

More like blink and you’ll miss it cuz your dead

[@eugene12310mobile]

He is literally a keyboard faceroll adc

[@sukithdayaratne2572]

@@rayxiang6874 The honest problem with Aphelios is that, even though riot designed him to be "GIGABRAIN 200 IQ" to play, his damage is so high that there's no reason to play him affectively like pros do.

[@Gambley]

9:15 "I can dodge" * immediately doesnt dodge a skillshot * Taken out of context this is pretty great

[@DailyDRV]

DL at the start: *Maybe* DL at the end: *How is this allowed*

[@MrLightjimmy]

wow that perfect youtube refresh

[@pashkanorm]

*APHELIOS IS CLOSE RANGE GUYS! YEP!*

[@Privateskante]

Bro what does he mean close range xD

[@princesurein7275]

Niko Soria very low range guys haHAA just don’t fight him if he has sniper rifle 69head

[@yinnyonline]

his autos are low range, his abilities arent

[@Timings]

@@yinnyonline Everyone knows

[@archie7622]

@@yinnyonline not his caitlin sniper autos

[@zane2662]

200 years on Doublelift is like 400 years.

[@matthewmatthew5141]

200 years.

[@GuidedByCompassion]

3:25 I am speechless at how fast that hyper fed Nocturne just MELTED.

[@RobCanadian1]

1:50 Auto attack + chakrams deals exactly 666 damage.

[@liammccarthy9388]

Every game of league is just APHELIOS VS EZREAL APHELIOS VS EZREAL

[@Kuba-tn7ks]

True

[@baby0891]

Is aphelios op? Me:is that supposed to be a question?

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

He isn't op, just straight up broken, like is isn't strong all the time but that one time he just pops the fkin team.. only flamethrower and chakrams remain to be nerfed

[@danielz-v4083]

Hi Im Faker I legit think the only way to properly balance flamethrower is to actually remove it. It + his busted ass ulti make it the strongest skill in the entire game by far. It’s just stupid somebody thought yhat would remotely be a decent idea

[@huanndo]

3:15 Kindred from Việt Nam >3

[@damianboi8523]

play Mr 200 years in the lcs pls

[@namename8004]

"League of Legends on Hard Mode" I feel like that would have made for a better title.

[@collinkeith7917]

That edit with the question mark was hilarious 😂

[@Grooviebones]

Assassins, bruisers and mages go 5-0 in lane. Nobody bats an eye when they go mega carry mode and 1 click you. ADC goes 5-0 in lane and can get 50/50 crits to deal massive damage. "Absolutely brokened, pls nerf."

[@daotainvasion]

actually true like sneaky said , its like people forgot that adc's are supposed to do dmg

[@ductrungtran6156]

Grooviebones and bruisers are still broken as hell even if they do get ahead. ppl just like to shit on this role for some reason

[@carly8555]

i really agree with this. i think aphelios is way overloaded-- but so are a lot of other champions within the game. it's almost as if they're upset that they can't just press one button on the adc and kill. yes, marksmen do a shitton of damage. that is literally their role in a team.

[@ea1766]

‘adc is a weak role’ remember

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

@@daotainvasion though they are not supposed to outtank 3 tanks at once

[@Roflmao6173]

Honestly all they need to do to nerf aphelios is to just remove the interaction with runaans. It makes his mid-late game way too strong with it working with every single gun. Why should he get a single item that makes him so overpowered once he gets it when it doesnt work with draven q, Caitlyn headshot, vayne silver bolts, etc.

[@taelongx]

Ya Aphelios is pretty trash without Runnans. ADC has been in a shitty state since last year and I think Aphelios is the best new 1v5 Champion they added for ADC players

[@probablynotabigtoe9407]

Maybe not completely remove it but Nerf it.

[@joaopatricio854]

And why can't an adc be broken like aphelios? Like there is so many broken Champs in the game that are just unbalanced, why it can't be an adc aswell?

[@David-jn1gg]

@@joaopatricio854 eggg xactly

[@Jack-vx5ge]

if its so overpowered, why doesn't he build it first?

[@traptinreality2668]

Did Riot just sit in the office and think: " How can i make an ADC that can kill everything without even hitting them? AOE autos?"

[@balajikarunakaran76]

1:53 that was pretty balanced 😜😜

[@dannyjiang6027]

The thumbnail made me think of skinny Thanos.

[@kalvinuhde4978]

Ahh yes the big weakness aphelios has “tons of damage”

[@obijuankenobi3814]

He means tons of damage with no survivability. He does a lot of damage but gets easily one shot by assassins, mages, and bruisers. He walks up with flamethrower and does crazy damage in an AOE, but then Zed or Khazix walks up and deletes him. Aphelios is the definition of what an ADC should be: Hyper carry late game, should need some peel from team to do damage (not too much though, right now ADCs need TOO much peel from their team to exist which is a problem), can't take a lot of damage unless he's fed/ahead with conq stacked up, and has clear strengths and weaknesses

[@rickniu4153]

Friendly reminder: Aphelios has been nerfed numerous times since his release and he's still in this state

[@johncook4536]

WasabiLover that’s what this last patch was for. It’s literally impossible to r the team with infernium now and kill them

[@emanueleragno5616]

@@johncook4536 before it was possible as full build vs full build now it's only possible if you get and advantage (which isn't too hard on aphelios let's be real)

[@shallower6544]

@WasabiLover not anymore... Infernum isn't that broken now....

[@shallower6544]

48 wr tho his wr is much higher in high elo than low elo

[@shallower6544]

@WasabiLover severums Lifesteal is much more broken than infernum...

[@yenel1843]

Couldnt aggree more with the Yummi Statement

[@minwara7055]

1:29 anyone else see the ghost scarl go into the mid bush?

[@kurtdupree1254]

Wow, good eye

[@Parapoint13]

Assasin: *Does what the class is supposed to* ADCs: *Surprised Pikachu face*

[@yinnyonline]

well it's kind of bullshit when a 5/0 adc can still get oneshot by a 1/6 katarina or talon, assassins or not

[@hamsterfromabove8905]

Adc is the only role in the game that can go 8/0 and still die for free with no chance to have lived. When's the last time you saw a 8/0 mid or 8/0 top die to a 1/5 character of any type. ADCs have to walk on egg shells the whole game. Every other class gets to have it easy once they are ahead, because they become unkillable.

[@forseris]

Finally people with brain...

[@Parapoint13]

It's also the only role that can reliably dps from range, not just burst. Great at taking objectives as well, and generally scales better with items than any other role. I'm not saying there isn't some fine tuning to be done with balance, but I do think the "gap" isn't as big as people think. Imo ppl forget the role is supposed to be weak at some stuff because it's strong with other stuff.

[@lcaros_]

Hey, one question. What do you think of Kaisa rn? Is she playable? How and into what kinds of matchups should she be played?

[@johncook4536]

Yeah she’s actually strong right now if you’re good with her. I don’t recommend her into cait and Yasuo but every other lane with her is playable.

[@lcaros_]

@@johncook4536 i used to play her a lot in s9 but then she suddenly got so weak so i switched to mf and vayne and they were really consistent BUT now i see kaisa everywhere again and wonder if i can play my girl haha. Thank you so much for the reply, i usually ban cait cuz the harrass when paired with a poke support is absurd, i guess ill pressure my teammates to ban yas too from now on. Thnx so much

[@ryancrail2145]

I think the real question is why do we still have the rune that gives a mini ghost when using a summoner spell.

[@JungIeDiff]

Green weapon laughs from that low range

[@Alex-do5ke]

8:34 Wew The Outplay!!

[@yhlee1205]

Low range but half screen abilities. Weaknesses doesnt matter if enemy dies before they get to you.

[@DanielHall212]

one of his weapon which is usually the first one you get in the game gives u an aa range as long as caitlyn so idk what he's complaining about low range, other weapon have a pretty decent range like xayah.

[@Roflmao6173]

Not to mention crescendum rewards you for being in close range when the main goal for adcs is to stay as far away as possible while surviving to deal damage. He basically has everything any champ could ask for. Insane lifesteal with severum, aoe long range cc potential with gravitum - which even slows every attack like Ashe, insanely high aoe damage with infernum, long range damage with calibrum, close range damage with crescendum, free attacks that don't stop movement while giving movement speed with severum q. And the fact that the q on every gun gives him additional autos for free.

[@DanielHall212]

@@Roflmao6173 it seems like he needed an excuse so that if he loose as aphelios, he would not look bad and have something to complain about.

[@andrewzheng4038]

@@Roflmao6173 honestly I have no idea what this champion is It's like some eldritch abomination created by fusing Jinx, Caitlyn, Ashe, and Urgot into one champion

[@DanielHall212]

@@andrewzheng4038 why argot though

[@Emma-eb5zb]

What patch is this? before or after the nerf?

[@terryshin3899]

Are these clips post or after nerfs

[@h2wht69]

200 YEARS

[@gaze2156]

What Aphelios needs is: Crescendum chakram bonus damage is no longer increased by crit; chakram bonus damage increased to 35-240% (doesn't need crits to do decent damage, but top end isn't as ridiculous) Infernum flame waves do 75% bonus damage on a crit (was 100%) (the area already gets bigger, he just doesn't do as much damage to secondary targets on a crit) Infernum R - secondary targets take 35% damage from overlapping flame waves; bonus spell damage increased by 50 at all ranks, bonus AD ratio increased by 5% (This makes it so that Infernum R actually does something against a single target, but won't be a guaranteed nuke against a clumped up team). Gravitum only slows enemies moving away from Aphelios; slow increased to 50%, decaying linearly over the duration. (Gravitum shouldn't cover Aphelios' weakness to dives. Instead of free kiting AND chasing, he only gets chasing. Gravitum makes him inescapable, not undivable.) Gravitum Q root duration reduced to 0.5 seconds, but grounds enemies on cast, and afterwards slows them by 99%, decaying over 1 second. Cooldown reduced to 10-8s (was 12-10s) (Aphelios' root is easier to accomplish compared other roots on ADCs like Jhin or Xayah. A shorter duration on the hard CC, but a longer slow while stopping dashes, lets it be useful without it being lockdown). Let's be clear, these are nerfs, but this would open up room to buff the parts of him that aren't as good, like: Severum ult no longer heals on hit. Instead, targets hit by the empowered auto take 30/50/70 magic damage over 2 seconds. Aphelios is healed for 100% of this magic damage dealt as long as he is within 1800 units of the target, and his autoattacks refresh the duration. (This would solidify Severum ult as the sustain option, letting Aphelios leech off the enemy team for as long as he remains in combat with them). Calibrum ult range increased by 100. (a simple buff, giving the sniper option more range compared to the others to finish people off from afar) Crescendum turret now applies 25% of on-hit effects. (opening up more room for on-hit Aphelios, synergy with Essence Reaver) Ult in general - empowered autos can't crit, but do 0-50% bonus damage based on crit chance, affected by crit multipliers (making the ult have more consistent synergy with crit, rather than lucky crits)

[@cleveranonym74]

He IS op... If he's on the enemy team.

[@danieldt89]

Does anyone knows what's the name of the song at the ending of the video?

[@roguegn]

Imagine an ADC that can fight at long-range, close-range, snipe you with a Q just like Caitlyn can with her Ultimate, can put up a tower, has a weapon specifically for life steal, can slow you, root you, scale harder than any other adc, take 80% of your hp with one auto-attack, and has a flamethrower that can not only clear waves, but can also hit multiple targets behind 2 lines of minions. Someone at Riot probably thought he was smart and said: Let's make an ADC that can do what 10 other ADCs can do, what could go wrong?!

[@DarkSlayerTK]

Ah yes, 200 years

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

Chakrams + flamethrower is still 200 years

[@gian_zx1197]

is this post nerf 10.13?

[@3gtheepic]

200 years

[@Pedro-vl7yr]

Do you know any good adc streamers to watch for learning?

[@yinnyonline]

specifically for learning? sneaky

[@skyholdzt]

Yes

[@codynguyen9029]

how do you smurf in challenger?

[@nightzer8633]

FACTS: Aphelios is not OP. The one controlling it in this video is the one who's OP.

[@lukebookout8703]

Let me have what you’re smoking

[@nightzer8633]

@@lukebookout8703Sorry u can't it's only for CHADS

[@ohlookitisacat7404]

The current Aphelios is at least pretty tame compare to the pre-nerf Aphelios though. Now you can't just press Q and yolo into the enemy ball for a 1vs5 ez penta.

[@denvershen933]

Nice Jules Gaia editor :)

[@MrTrollmas]

i want to main adc, is the q click on obligation to play it properly ?

[@S4Revolution]

what?

[@charlesberge8622]

Nice plays and Thanks for giving more reason to permaban aphelios x)

[@FeelingTipsi]

The Odesza shirt though 🙏

[@cellfishdominicbernas8137]

Doublelift has doubleshaft if im not mistaken

[@travisimon3269]

Aphelios is what happens when you give a ranged champ tiamat

[@blop-a-blop9419]

Basically Aphelios' weakness is that he has limited amunition on his OP weapons. Which makes him need his limited OP weapons to be really OP.

[@blop-a-blop9419]

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[@AndreIrie-fm7zj]

I'm sad aphelios is characterized by his damage and not his versatility

[@seanrowland3620]

I think Yuumi is supposed t be the champ you give your girlfriend when shes starting out and wants to play with you. That's what she should be. My question is do you think some champs should be banned from competitive play? I think its a slippery slope, but often champs are nerfed for competitive as well as casual and ranked. They all operate in the same space and because of that, competitive can be a detriment to the casual experience. It means that anyone trying to learn has to try harder to play. I think this is why people are leaving the game and new people are not joining. League will always have players, but it's not getting new ones, and it's hard to get friends to play it because it's so complex. Yuumi is terrible for competitive because the best can exploit her, but I believe the intention was to create a noob-friendly champ in league.

[@disabledhorse6030]

I'd do that to hint at her I want you to ride me ;p

[@opekuos]

yes he is

[@khoaddox6294]

oh this Kindred's guy is a Vietnamese jungler

[@Testsubject32]

This is the first time I've been able to watch your video's since the TL breakup. It's been too painful for me... I hope TSM is taking care of you. I just want you to be happy Doublelift.

[@stephenyoshida8145]

1:20 How did DL know that Nocturn was top? Was it just because he wasn't at bot?

[@Argemz]

He saw noc on the minimap before noc ults

[@아이-f3u]

Why does he have no vision

[@bluepizzey8469]

Kindred is Vietnamese lmao =))

[@annieleohardt9644]

QuyDEPTRAI :)))

[@hetmat7267]

kindred xứ Việt :))))

[@huypham-pq9um]

Lol

[@nguyenminhthu4680]

Quý đẹp trai mới chịu cơ :)))

[@thatguy1922]

This was before the new nerfs though

[@arky5674]

is he finally gonna play it in lcs now?

[@luckyimpulse4035]

1:55 "thats some pretty balanced damage, 80% of his hp on one auto" 350 on a crit bc hes feed and another 350 on his 15 chakrams VS an adc.. seems balanced to me but im a noob so w.e

[@GewalfofWivia]

Yeah he has an ENTIRE LEVEL up on that Kalista and A WHOLE SINGLE ITEM, of course he should be able to do 700 damage with a single auto. OMEGALUL

[@kurtdupree1254]

Just because you know where the damage is coming from doesn't mean it's balanced.

[@RafaelCDet]

@@kurtdupree1254 it is balanced if you take into account how hard it actually is to get 15 chakrams just because pros can get it easily doesn't mean it is actually easy to do

[@preabo]

Aphelios low range? You forgot that he could snipe you from 2 towers away?

[@eiajdjejjsj8284]

Aphelios is not op, you are op doublelift.

[@ynotsammy]

The only way the other teams can win is if they 4 man bot early to put DL behind. If they let him farm he'll carry. If the 4 man fails then he'll carry. Small window for them.

[@sashalishchyshyn5523]

severum is the best gun for ganks. imagine being towerdived and you just press r to get 300hp×the amount of people hit

[@thekitagirl]

Did you make sure Leena wasn’t talking? 😂😂

[@Bagelpwn17]

Why is Peter streaming in a different location? Is he streaming out at TSM HQ? Did he and Leena break up?

[@brettboaz9051]

That’s his and leenas house I think

[@lazproductionz4885]

short range? What are you smoking

[@asimmustafa1284]

Can you make aphelios guide video

[@alexanderporto_]

Is this 10.12?

[@sixsix4867]

Did you move again?

[@linklandin9795]

21 minute formKEKW

[@SamAn-dj8kh]

200 years once a rioter said

[@OwGash]

Double IE proc at the 2 minute kills lol

[@dclyrics8030]

BRTT >>

[@matthewadams561]

Yeah

[@lonebriefcase]

To answer the titles question with another question: “is that even a question?”

[@domenplesko5623]

Me in p1: tryharding looking for every enemy mistake and trading... Doublelift in challenger: idk how to play the game

[@yuki-tan]

*aphelios is op* doubelift : picks syndra

[@Holasoyfelipesochao]

the "he has low range" should be "he conditionaly has range" imo

[@MatthewTheUntitled]

That got nerfed :D

[@malcolmgraves2428]

The only nerf aph needs is you being able to auto his turrets without activating them. Thats literally it.

[@SKILLZTHIEF]

yes

[@iceilliden1910]

HOW MANY YEARS?!

[@z4tqv]

Its 2000 not 200

[@hathnak97]

Is this 10.13?

[@MrMertakhai]

>Aphelios >"low range" Kappa

[@123zachstar]

I hate yuumi, but one thing I can say in her favor is that if your ADC is garbage, she’ll be underfed and useless. Really only a problem in Low ELO

[@nicolasrosales6163]

why have you only played aphelios once the whole year? maybe do that instead of beta picks like ashe or kalista

[@tannerweinheimer7839]

Hahha. When "Low range, No escape" are the perceived weaknesses we are in trouble. He has a massive movement speed buff, lifesteal and a root to escape. He has a sniper rifle, turret and ult to do huge damage from further range than Cait Q or Jinx W. The thing is busted his kit needs massive reworks.

[@travisimon3269]

Since when does he do this much damage?

[@z4tqv]

Since before the nerfs

[@kroth3049]

Aphelios is a design failure since he takes way more knowledge of the character to play against him than to play as him. To balance him there will have to be a major change to his character. I honestly don't have a clue how to fix him though. I am assuming he was supposed to be LoL version of the Invoker from DotA. The problem of moving the Invoker to the ADC role is it gives a champion with a ton of abilities great autos as well. The Invoker also required a lot of knowledge and reaction time for the person playing him. You can get by with just autos and spamming abilities on aphelios. Invoker was balanced by an absurdly high skill floor aphelios does not have that.

[@dbPopRocks]

Let me answer this guys. Yes

[@DavidMoiii]

Rừng VN hay sao kìa

[@So_Wholesome]

Is aphelios op? yes

[@poom323]

Aphelios = Better Sivir, Better Twitch, Better Jinx, Better Caitlyn

[@aimanallimin1235]

i got my first penta with him soooo

[@liamsal9968]

was it a r flamethrower penta? XD

[@aqibhasan3157]

Liam Sal mine was a chakram Penta lmao

[@ryelyndesch1018]

not anymore unless you one trick him. he has like 2 winning matchups, 46% wr, and a shit load of counters