The 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness is an Off-Roader Wagon

[@Xerthedragon]

Does "muscular styling" somehow mean "add black plastic everywhere"?

[@ericlucci2829]

that’s what they did with the new wrx too lol

[@ryane6719]

For the average consumer, yes.

[@J-Allen19]

I have a 21 Onyx XT Outback and I think it looks dramatically better and less plasticky.

[@DougDeMuro]

In 2021, "off-road styling" does mean that yes.

[@mattmolloy636]

@Paul S what new Land Cruiser? Toyota stopped making them.

[@marran8140]

"Nine and a half inches is a pretty big number." Doug DeMuro 2021

[@LXW-Arts]

That's almost a ruler so yeah.

[@BBulletin]

Bigger than most folks' number.

[@antonroux6737]

don't worry - he'll be back to 4.3 inches driving his Ferrraris soon enough 😂

[@CoastShuttle]

Does size really matter?

[@jonaveul]

Just a friendly reminder, before daddy Doug, we had Saabkyle. Only real ones remember

[@p_enta5012]

I love that dude

[@xerifeda1st86]

Teeeerr⁵e não sei

[@lokihurd4421]

hey guys how’s it going

[@LouieYouTube]

tOdAYy!! > Thisssssss

[@davidcosta9358]

yooo i remenber him!!

[@thecardiaccookdiaries]

I've owned an outback wilderness for over a year now. It isn't meant to be this insane rock climbing off roader that some videos try to compare it to; its not a wrangler or bronco, etc. It also does bridge the gap that a lot of people want, which is regular road driving comfort, extremely good AWD tech that does surprisingly well in most weather and mud/sand/snow/rain, and the ability to have the space to fit quite a LOT in something that isn't truly an SUV or Truck but a wagon. I moved from KS to TN in this, and was able to fit most of the essentials in this and still keep my dog in the passenger seat. It handles quite a bit like a very long sedan thats been lifted, but the interior is nice for every passenger in the car, its extremely comfortable to drive, and you have the space to have a full family, and leave a cooler and set of golf clubs in the back without it feeling like you're driving a truck. I cross shopped this with a 4Runner, and thats a pretty capable off roading vehicle, but it feels a lot less nimble, and drives much more like a big SUV/truck than this does. For families with kids/dogs, this wilderness interior is basically made to be hosed down so easy to clean, but still very comfortable to sit in, and has heated front and rear seats. Only issue I have with the wilderness is that the MPG isnt very good, I can probably max out at 24MPG on highway, average about 20 in general. with the always on symmetric AWD, my hypothesis is that they keep the CVT on board (which has improved) to try and squeeze out the most MPG they can knowing that the always on AWD will eat at gas mileage. They increased the drive ratio for the wilderness, which apparently is supposed to help with low speed power to help with off roading getting out of crevices, etc. in real life, if you floor it you get some turbo lag, but it accelerates more than you'd expect a vehicle like this.

[@joefunsmith]

Living in the part of California where it snows at least a foot of snow every year, I predict I'll see more than a couple of these pop up in my "neighborhood." When your driveway is dirt or gravel at a 12% grade, but you want to travel the other 99% of your commute in comfort, a vehicle like this is exactly what you want.

[@MtnNerd]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@Wynorrific]

I mean at that point you're better off getting an older Land Cruiser. Just as, if not more, luxurious for cheaper and not only that but, more reliable and better in the snow

[@maynorsanchez1342]

@@Wynorrific or to save even more a Mitsubishi montero sport or the 3rd gen montero which is what we use for winter

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

@@Wynorrific yeah, if you wanna get 12mpg sure.

[@UnitedStates.]

Lol. This is exactly why I am buying the wilderness. Driveway is gravel 15% grade 1/4 mile long and when it snows hopefully it will take me all the way up.

[@NickWeissMusic]

AMC got it right with the Eagle. Legends know.

[@jackpolack3315]

Lol I still drive an 81 as my winter daily. Handles the ice just as well as my old subie

[@corey7219]

I'm so happy that Subaru still makes a hatchback stationwagon.

[@BrendenPragasam]

They still call it an SUV

[@sherpafan033]

hatchback station wagon?

[@CWINDOWSsystem32]

I think it's just Subaru and Volkswagen that still sell wagons in the US.

[@clothestravel]

Subaru doesn’t really make a traditional wagon anymore, as it’s more of a crossover, wilderness or not.

[@clothestravel]

@@CWINDOWSsystem32 nope, neither. VW discontinued the Golf Sportwagen and Alltrack after 2019, and Subaru stopped making traditional station wagons when they came out with that fugly Outback, as it’s more of a crossover. Nowadays, at least in the USA, station wagons are the purview of Volvo, Mercedes, Audi, and Porsche.

[@Freddyboy583]

I bought an Outback Wilderness last week. The power and handling from this lifted wagon is surprisingly fun! As someone who has only had normal cars with adequate power, the turbo in the outback is exhilarating to me!

[@FlintIronstag23]

With looks like that, they should have named it the Subaru Outback Consulier.

[@TSL73]

Or the wagon queen family truckster

[@wesgregg6451]

Subaru Posermobile, Yellow Crap Edition.

[@KTMsteve]

Haha gold

[@DougDeMuro]

hahaha, excellent.

[@Squeakthehamster]

@@DougDeMuro hi Doug!

[@basedury]

finally an auto manufacturer gets it right and offers smaller wheels on the “off road” model. the trd rav4 and the defender both give you way too big of wheels for being an off road model.

[@BikingwithJP]

@UC1uLHp1usl1Kujot9VwAtig smaller rim but the same size final wheel diameter means there is more rubber/sidewall flex. The extreme opposite would be low profile tires - they would be absolute garbage off road. I actually downsized my 18" to 17" for winter tires on my Outback and it also protects against those pesky potholes.

[@NobleOmnicide]

Don't even get me started at the idiots that buy the 4Runner "Limited". Those rims look idiotic on the 4Runner and are clearly not meant for off road purposes at all. Yet dummies can't help themselves buying 4Runners for trips to the mall.

[@BikingwithJP]

@@NobleOmnicide yes lol I seen a “big off-road” SUV with low profile tires miss an off-ramp and try to take the grass between the highway and the ramp… if you’ve ever wondered what 5000+ lbs looked like figure skating there was a lot of pirouettes but they failed to get to the exit ramp… or back on the highway it seemed.

[@Databyter]

Amen, and they would have gone even smaller, but couldn't because of their new Brake Calipers. I think they should offer a smaller caliper option for those that want 15's 16's since it is hard to go bigger diameter wheels with those wells. Databyter

[@AHungryHunky]

@@Databyter You used to be able to slap 15 inch steelies on things and then mount 31-33 inch tires and have plenty of sidewall. Combine it with a 2-3 inch lift and the shorter narrower SUVs of yesteryear where good to go anywhere without much worry. Today modern safety standards dictate they need to stop readily, and the only way you are getting 4000lbs of steel to stop faster is with bigger breaks which takes up real estate in the wheels. That unfortunately means that the 15 inch wheels of the past are basically gone and replaced by 17 or 18 inch wheels, which naturally need bigger tires to maintain a decent sidewall. Otherwise, you get the Defender like TFL that needed 3 spares to get home. To be honest having owned said vehicles of yesteryear, I don't mind the modern brakes when I'm just driving on the road and anyone looking to off-road should skip all the electronic "off-road" goodies like air suspension and terrain management and buy something with a basic 4x4 system and suspension that's designed from the factory to be upgraded with lifts and tires like a Wrangler, as all those goodies will make upgrading difficult if not impossible later.

[@Dashi18n]

I’m not even sure Subaru even classifies these cars as wagons anymore

[@MichaelOKeefe2009]

@Magie Ma Stop fucking spamming!

[@eithanrafer6556]

Slam it and it looks like a wagon

[@benjaminsmith2287]

They could call them planes or boats for all I care. They are raised wagons. Subaru is just marketing.

[@TheMsdos25]

For a while Subaru classified them as light trucks to get around fuel economy regulations.

[@milesfann33]

@@effy4619 I'll only make love with you if we do it in this Subaru Outback Wilderness!

[@georgepapo]

A thoughtful review on a great all round machine, but 11:20 takes the cake for the biggest voice crack I've heard recently

[@GreaseLightning02]

Lol it goes up about 5 semitones 😂

[@flossenking]

Oh that's a big one 😂

[@rockmonsta1033]

I was looking for a comment abt it haha

[@michaeldurrett8388]

Doug finally hitting puberty

[@flamah10n]

LMAO

[@HomerJ1964]

“Synthetic Leather”. Those used to be called vinyl seats, and they were awesome.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

The new generation thinks it's vegan leather, which is just fancy for vinyl.

[@shimmyeckstein6421]

@@iHaveTheDocuments it is technically vegan leather. We still know it's vinyl tho.

[@volvo09]

I remember getting into an argument with someone who thought the seats in their car were leather. I had to look up the stats on the car and show that BMW offered "emulated leather" or some other ridiculous name, as an option in that car and that it was just "vinyl seats with leather patterns on it". Vinyl is ok, but there is 0 breathability to it, so it gives you that "humid - pants stuck to the legs" feeling on long trips. Leather and cloth lessen it, and it's gone with ventilated seats.

[@waveformdistortion]

I'll agree that calling it "synthetic leather" is dumb, but they definitely were not awesome. Vinyl seating is pretty awful to actually sit on when it's new, nevermind when it gets a couple years old and starts to crack.

[@Databyter]

@@waveformdistortion They don't call it synthetic leather, this BOOB does. It is a synthetic designed to be weather and water resistant to be cleaned easily and beach/camping friendly and is somewhat leather like. As far as I can tell this guy is a sarcastic ass who is just making fun of a really good improvement to the Outback. Databyter

[@TucsonDude]

I own both a Crosstrek 2.5L Sport and a Jeep Rubicon. I barely drive the Jeep anymore except when truly off-roading. Subaru's are awesome.

[@FrankieProkop]

Subaru Outback: “You have become the very thing you swore to destroy!”

[@maxivy]

We are overdue for a Carspotting with Doug video.

[@ralphlambda5359]

man, if I was in the market for an outback, i would 100% consider this trim in a dark color. Like the work trim of pickup trucks, something nice about bumpers that can actually bump stuff and not worry about paint.

[@WonderfulAircraft]

Drinking game idea; every time Doug says "wilderness" in a weird way, take a shot. You'll be blackout in no time 😆

[@Adielstien]

Haha you beat me to it!

[@bryduhbikeguy]

GOooooold.......

[@doctorgrover2287]

The styling is definitely quirky but I wouldn’t call it a feature.

[@generaldistrust]

@@yungboicontigo9278 i just report spam

[@auraskadante6273]

Beautifully said

[@phasmata3813]

He keeps mocking the "wilderness" concept with wacky tone, and I get that the vast majority of people have a ridiculous habit of buying more vehicle than they need because they never actually leave the pavement, but this will be a hell of an excellent vehicle for people in the rural northwoods. Doug has clearly never spent much time in more rural areas of the northern Great Lakes region or Canada. There *is*, despite the mockery, a use case between city grocery-getting and brodozer rock-crawler, and this will be so good for that.

[@martinw3577]

Yes your'e right. He's just playing stupid in my opinion.

[@flip_moto]

yeah the mocking inlflection is way over the top. The Crosstrek XV has this plastic and its great to have when out camping in TX, NM and CO when the double track gets tight and the brush and foliage would normally scratch the hell out of the paint. Its not crazy offroad, but lots of families get off the beaten path even though Doug apparently thinks backcountry camping isn't wildernessy enough.

[@phasmata3813]

@@martinw3577 Yeah, you're probably right. There have been other things he's done and said in the past that really can only be explained as putting on an act for his core demographic. I have a hard time believing he doesn't know more than he lets on.

[@omisan771]

The normal Outback is fine for all that without needing a Wilderness "upgrade".

[@crud118]

Watch Alex on Autos for good car reviews, watch Doug for entertainment.

[@mqbitsko25]

Doug, the Subaru's AWD system is vastly capable. What it lacks, compared to the 4Runner, is an low range in the transfer case. But Subarus have true ALL wheel drive that can embarrass trucks and Jeeps in situations where traction is the deciding factor, as in snow or sand. You can't get a machine that takes better advantage of any available traction than a Subaru or a true Audi Quattro.

[@lucyfan1976]

You hit the nail on the head. Both Subaru and Audi have true AWD systems that can put power and traction to all or just even one wheel only. I watch all those tests where so many SUV's get stuck and only the Audi and Subaru can make it through just about anything.

[@ejshelby5460]

Is the common Audi A4 a true quattro?

[@lucyfan1976]

@@ejshelby5460 Yes all Quattro models are Just like the Subaru all wheel drive models. They are all true all wheel drive. They could put 100% of the power to the front or the back or to one wheel only and still get you out of a situation. Most of the other all-wheel-drive systems cannot do that which gets them stuck a lot more often. You could take a Subaru outback, an Audi Q7 and a Honda pilot. The Honda pilot will get stuck In those specific situations if three wheels lose traction. Obviously part time systems or systems with low range Gearing that are capable of locking an axle do not apply. You take any one of the jeep systems with the TWo speed transfer cases or the locking differential those will do just as well and better.

[@macedindu829]

Doug really, really, reeeeelly likes saying "wilderness."

[@ccalvinn]

I think leaning into the silliness of it works because of how stupid and showboaty the car is about a trim level

[@mrallmine150]

People should take a shot every time he says wilderness…the new Doug drinking game

[@fondu-design]

WILLderneSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@EngiNetion]

WILderNESSSSNESSSS

[@aklmad]

After watching the video, I still was left wondering if this is the Wilderness version of the Outback.

[@sharkonwheels2220]

We're now on our 4th Outback in a row - love 'em. Early 2016 (2.5 Limited), late 2017 (3.6r Limited), 2020 (Limited XT), and last night acquired a 2022 Geyser Blue Wilderness. Fantastic vehicles with incredible residual values! Oh, um, Doug? It's copper accents, not gold. :)

[@amosburton]

I have a Z-71 Tahoe with good off-road tires and was recently out-mudded by a hippie in one of these, needless to say the ol' ego is still a bit bruised...

[@kdrapertrucker]

Could be worse, you could have been out mudded by a lesbian in a Crosstrek wilderness.😁

[@deadzone8]

Doug, the gold accents you missed that these are actually covers for attachment points, the ones in the bumpers cover hidden recovery points, and the roof rails are fixed mounting points. Sure this isn't a hardcore off-roader but those recovery points are a nice touch when there's some automakers try to peddle their SUVs as "capable" and no recovery points, looking at you Kia.

[@PGNuwan]

I was gonna say the same, how did he miss it? they are clearly marked with arrows.

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

He also missed that, unlike previous outback generations, this comes with a full size spare. That makes a big difference off-road.

[@PGNuwan]

@@SecretSauceyjuice Thats good to know too, Is it only me that noticed recently his videos become less informative and more about his personal opinion with bit of sarcasm if he personally doesnt like it, perhaps this is dus to lack of prior research or not spending enough time with the vehicle that he review.

[@SecretSauceyjuice]

@@PGNuwan he's always added in a little personal opinion. You're probably just noticing it more on vehicles you're more familiar with. Most of these reviews are after only having the car for a short time and so often I am impressed with the fun facts we get, but you'd think he would do a little more research on some aspects.

[@sadubone]

Those gold accents all have arrows on them (on the bumpers point towards the release slot for removal) suggesting they move, the front and rears are likely tow hooks. Is that the case? Kind of neat actually. Can't really blame anyone for trying to cash in on things these days.

[@cheekibreeki1270]

yes the gold accents on roof racks and bumpers are recovery locations or tie down spots

[@pooolish334]

Doug getting lazy on us

[@ItsAlive111]

Gold accents my @ss, lol

[@AlymerKiteboy]

@@pooolish334 Getting?

[@Real_MisterSir]

Yes that is correct, they are for locating anchor points on the main frame. It's quite normal for designers to highlight these areas for their rugged concepts, more rare to see such details actually make it to production due to cost cuts and higher-ups deeming them less relevant for the generic customer.

[@Stormcoaster101]

This will be driven exclusively by people who go around with a bike rack permanently attached to the back of their car but the most wilderness they see is the bushes in a Whole Foods parking lot.

[@EZ-pt5gd]

Same can be said for G-wagon owners in PNW 😂

[@ThingsYouMightLike]

Everytime Doug says "Cars & Bids", he should progressively open up his arms more and more, until he gets so animated that he's doing the Bernie.

[@maxreimann6734]

can we get a nature show with doug where he shows us the quirks and features of the actual wilderness

[@flamah10n]

imajine here showing a b-hive.

[@bryduhbikeguy]

This is dirt.I mean really dirty dirt,not regular dirt like you see next to other dirt...Thissss is really,really dirty dirt,and I'm going to review it.

[@SoapMovie2300]

no, because Doug is as shallow as it gets regarding any actual usage of vehicles

[@andy31419]

The gold points are tie down and tow points. They added additional tow/pull points from the normal outback.

[@bensliberty]

I like doug but it really bothers me when he misses big points like this.

[@andy31419]

@@bensliberty I think he missed a lot of points on this one. There is so much more than he talked about.

[@AdmiralKakarot]

Getting a throwback to the old AMC Eagle here.

[@fj60driver]

Except this is ugly

[@LearnAboutFlow]

Gets the same gas mileage. Oh how far we've come in 40 years

[@righty-o3585]

Lol I just said the same thing. It's a modern AMC Eagle

[@santileonsteinberg1441]

@Magie Ma Stop this please

[@aaronwilson5978]

Facts

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

12:45 - Originally, "Outback" was just a trimline package for their vehicles. Sometime in the late '90s, they started selling it as if it were a separate vehicle (The "Outback" was the Legacy with Outback package, the "Outback Sport" was the Impreza with Outback package) but all the actual vehicle info still said Legacy or Impreza. Even into the late '00s, when they had nearly firmly separated the lines, the actual "name plate" of the vehicles still had the "base model" in it. (My kid's '08 Outback was still officially registered as a Legacy.) It's funny how for a while, Subaru sold like a dozen different "models" of car, while really only having two real models, with a dozen trim lines between them. Even now, the Crosstrek and WRX are still the same basic vehicle underneath (the Impreza.)

[@destroyerarmor2846]

They are learning from Toyota. Same car different name, tweaked headlights design to fool people

[@RL82]

Pretty much almost all correct until end. They did the same thing with the impreza/wrx as they did with the outback/legacy.. Almost. Wrx was a trim level of the impreza, then they split it off and the wrx became its own car, not based on the impreza anymore. The outback and legacy still share much of the same parts catalogue.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

@@RL82 Ah, I didn't know they finally made the WRX a new base model. Assumed it was still on the "Impreza platform". (Looks like the change was made with the 2022 model year, no wonder I missed it!) So they're up to *FOUR* base models now! :-P (Impreza, Legacy, WRX, Ascent.)

[@RL82]

@@AnonymousFreakYT Nah, it's been it's own separate base car with two main trim options since 2014 (WRX, WRX STI).

[@nicklasveva]

Just look at that oil filter placement. Absolutely gorgeous. I wish my car had that placement.

[@lllllllllllillllllll]

I was looking for others noticing this! It's an even better placement than near the drain plug because this one won't make a mess on the ground when you unscrew it.

[@nicklasveva]

@@lllllllllllillllllll My Saab has it placed next to the engine beneath a bunch of hoses and shit, so you need a huge extension for that. Luckily my friend had the right tools for helping me change oil.

[@Ratzfourtyfour]

All manufacturers could have done it like that for decades.

[@lllllllllllillllllll]

@@nicklasveva Likewise on terrible design, Honda places the oil filter above the exhaust headers on their sport bikes. There's next to no way you get that off without getting oil on the headers and then having to deal with the smoke after, though at least you can reach it easy.

[@MichaelEilers]

“Thinks it will do OK” - Doug are you aware that Subaru has 3 of the top 10 fewest days on lot cars? Crosstrek, Outback and Forrester? These will never be on the lot for even a day, every one of these will be ordered at full sticker and 3 month wait before picking it up.

[@BobbyDazzler888]

So not OK?

[@kimberlywentworth9160]

Yep, I had to fight to get my 2019 Forester back in 2019. Subaru's are very practical and very good cars. They are fantastic in the snow and ice and hold a lot of stuff.

[@Cluelessvlogs]

Yeah went to my local subaru dealership and wait time was 1-2 months cause the ones being delivered were already being held for buyers then they come in

[@Kolby9241]

Can confirm. Ordered in late July. Getting here in a week or two.

[@ThatJessOutWest]

Anybody else feel compelled to start a drinking game every time Doug says the word, "wilderness"?

[@jeremiahsullivan9583]

I think Cool Factor if only 1 is kinda low. It is definitely cooler than the base model.

[@leslieangus47]

I’ve had a black Wilderness since the end of July 2022, I was one of the first in Boulder to receive theirs (I’m not that cool normally lol), and it was a no brainer to go with black. I tinted the front windows to match the back tint, and it is so stealthily bad ass! The blue one is too showy for me, and my neighbor has a white one that looks good but again, is not a car I’d want to look at every day. I drive for work as a home health physical therapist, and I ski ~50 days a year, so I wanted a beast in the snow, that could also be a daily driver with decent gas mileage, and that’s what the wilderness is. You can’t make it slide in the snow and believe me, we’ve tried! For my second winter with my wilderness, I had Michelin X Ice snow tires put on rather than try to stretch the Yokohamas for another winter. This car is perfect for us Colorado moms who need to get where we need to be, whether it’s a pow day at the mountain, driving kids to school on a stormy early winter morning that’s dumped a foot of fresh overnight, in the desert around Moab, and towing our pop up camper last summer. I’m really grateful to have this car:)

[@liamhodgson]

Rural mail carriers are gonna be looking at this salivating (they have been switching from RHD wranglers to Subarus lately)

[@subaruanon]

Subaru used to sell RHD Legacy wagons in the states for the first two generations exactly for that purpose, even built here in Indiana just like the normal LHD ones. Wish they'd get back into that but they need some serious factory expansion to accommodate cooler, more niche things like that now. They're selling every last car they can build they minute they hit the lots.

[@franklinbarksdale6928]

@@subaruanon they'll never sell RHD outbacks anymore. The margins on higher trims like the Onyx, Touring, XT, and Wilderness are way higher than mail cars - mail carriers wouldn't be going for higher trims, probably just base/premium.

[@motodrang4287]

Just ordered mine, it was really nice on the test ride. I wanted badly to hate the Subaru and get a 4 runner but for me the suby won hands down. Already have a truck so didn’t really need another one.

[@matt.coignard]

My local Toyota dealer said they'd match the price of their 4Runner with the OBW I've got coming in. I almost did it too, but the 17MPG on the 4Runner ruled it out on the commuter car side of things.

[@cloudoftime]

​@@matt.coignardI picked the OBW over a 4runner too. I could not get a price match from Toyota though, not for a TRD off road anyway (for the locking diff). As for the MPG, the OBW does beat the 4runner, but not by a huge margin.

[@jeffk464]

Rugged means stuff doesn't break when you go off road, not that it has more ground clearance

[@jakebenavente6391]

I wonder if subaru execs ever feel cyber bullied everytime doug makes fun of their “wilderness” marketing term

[@hfvhf987]

Instead of thinking of this as an off-roader, think of it as a farmers family car, that's their real end use a lot of the time.

[@bindingcurve]

It would be nice if the roof rack was offered on the standard wagon.

[@kaylzshter6153]

If the entire car was that matte black plastic, it would look much less awkward, and probably pretty badass.

[@Duncan256AL]

I bought a 2005 Subaru Outback 3 weeks ago!! I’ve had many cars but it’s by far the best one I’ve had and it’s gonna get the most respect I’ve ever given a vehicle of mine!! I love it!

[@samkossak9086]

The gold accents on the bumpers are marking recovery points and the ones on the roof are tie down points. Although if you get a hitch the hitch mounting points are block the rear recovery points. You also forgot to answer the light integrated into the rear hatch, it provides light to camp when the door is open.

[@JSS75]

I’m so glad at 15:41 Doug got the full Subaru experience, in other words, what I believe to be the most beeps and warning sounds in any vehicle on the road. Luckily a lot can go off but I thought it annoyed me in my 2018 Outback and then I got in a new one, oh boy 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@PabloSanchez-qu6ib]

On a scale of beauty for wheel arches, the Mercedes gull wing is in top and this Subaru on the bottom.

[@themostbeautifulworldever]

best comment ever

[@ericlucci2829]

so you’re comparing an iconic vehicle to some shitty plastic terribly made car by a bad manufacturer lol

[@zacharyflack5620]

Fun fact my dad actually bought the 98 convertible trans am that is in the cars and bids ad in this video. We just got it shipped here in va and it looks gorgeous! Thanks Doug and Car+bids!

[@TK0O0O0O0]

I think the Outback is a great all-rounder and for the money you really can’t beat it. The wilderness trim doesn’t interest me though. The roof rails are cool, but you can’t get the HK audio system, cooled seats, face recognition, heated steering wheel, etc etc with the wilderness, and the standard Outback is almost equally capable even with the base engine.

[@DirtStarMaster]

Except for the outdated engine. Just buy a Toyota if you value your money

[@BugOnAChip]

Tf you need facial recognition for in a car lmao

[@jasonhass9845]

No heated steering wheel in the Wildernees? That doesn't make sense lol

[@mathieuclement8011]

@@DirtStarMaster The FA24 engine is one of the latest from Subaru, what are you talking about lol

[@beamdriver5]

@@DirtStarMaster the Subaru FA engine is less than ten years old

[@bobonthis9520]

I have one, owned it for a year so far, love it. This is my second Outback, traded a 2013 in with 160,000 trouble free miles on it. Subaru FTW 😀

[@DocHolliday3841]

Doug said its missing serious off-road equipment like a locking differential. Perhaps he doesn't realize it has the same symmetrical AWD famous in rally racing. I have an outback I take camping & hunting & it does better than expected

[@ryane6719]

Rally racers do 100mph, off roaders are crawling. Not really relevant, Doug’s point is valid.

[@artemzhirkov3295]

Classic Doug there. Has no idea how the car works, but can tell you about all the golden stitching

[@heytherebato]

@@artemzhirkov3295 You don't know what youre talking about.

[@pedlpower]

Since Subaru uses the ABS to shift power from the slipping tire, I wonder if a locking diff and LSD would be of much benefit. Given what most people need this car to do.

[@matthewschneller]

This car is made for people who go to the dealership saying " I want something I won't get stuck in the snow in "

[@samhansen527]

Sort of unrelated but I have those tires on my “regular” Outback and they are phenomenal. Great on the snow and trails, grip well on the road for an all terrain, and reasonably quiet.

[@Secrecy30]

I had those installed in my old Forester and agree. Yokohama Geolandar AT is one of the best all terrain tires out there.

[@rotamota3200]

Someone should get Doug one of those pointy-hands-on-a-stick thingos to point at things, lol

[@bcyr-CO]

I sort of feel that Subaru has lost touch with what the Outback was supposed to be. It was never meant to be a serious off roader, but just a simple, sturdy wagon that could go through some mud or deep snow when you needed it to. I personally love my little '03 outback, and the times when I do take it up into the mountains, it does just fine. I'd imagine that most people who buy these Wilderness models probably won't be doing anything much more "off roadie" than what I put my '03 through (which is simply just rallying around on muddy gravel roads). Also, ditch the CVT and put in a cool 5 or 6 speed manual. Then the Outback would be a step closer to its former glory.

[@ericlucci2829]

trust me this isn’t an off roader. if you take thing thing off road as they advertise, it will break. the transmissions and the fa24 engines leak under normal driving conditions. the ascent can’t tow worth shit. i wouldn’t push these hard at all.

[@cannaroe1213]

@@ericlucci2829 this. save 25 thousand and buy a quality Legacy B4 and throw aftermarket locking differentials on it, there are videos of it being every bit the 4runner up a mountain, and with great fuel economy. Just make sure you put "compound" (i.e. plastic) headgaskets on it, they're cheaper and last way longer than the multi-layer metal ones, at least for engines under 600hp, which is at least a stage 2 in subaru land haha. imagine paying so much money for less than 300hp in 2021 xD oh subaru

[@ericlucci2829]

@@cannaroe1213 i mean i work for subaru, you don’t have to talk me out of not buying one. haha

[@Markjw25]

@@ericlucci2829 I work at a Subaru dealer. I would never buy a new one. Just awful cheap built overpriced piles of shit. And I don't know why the ASScent ever got made. No tow power, flimsy interior build. Can literally almost rip off the lower dash piece on the left side of the steering wheel. And don't get me started on how many damn bad transmissions have been replaced by the service department. Then of course there's always a recall for something and no remidy to fix it, or parts are backordered...yeah REAL reliable lol.

[@Cubulation]

This thing is legitimately a beast, I've seen crazy videos already of it off road and even seen some myself off the beaten path

[@MartinJones123]

It's looks though?!

[@tiedyeeli]

The new Wrx looks crazy!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[@joshuajacome8803]

We live in a time when a wagon makes a better impression of an SUV than most SUVs today...

[@damndude94]

Doug, you came in clutch with this review. Been looking around all morning for one!

[@duaneafields]

no clutch, no doug pressing a clutch on this. all morning, you ain't got to lie Craig, you ain't got to lie.

[@jhrodriguez08]

This wilderness trim fits perfectly to the Forester, unfortunately Subaru doesn’t want to give Turbo Power to the Forester because it’ll kill the Outback

[@spirosk7984]

I am a big Subaru fan. Was fortunate enough in my life to own several Mercedes Benz cars, three Bmw's (one of them was an E39 M5) and a Porsche Clubsport. However my best driving experience was behind the wheel of a stock Hawkeye black Sti... What a car... Would love to own a previous model Outback but for the time being my Xc60 T6 Awd is really fast, safe and comfy.

[@spiderscurry5614]

same

[@carypyke935]

All Outbacks are built in Lafayette, Indiana....I recently retired after 30 years there...so if built in the USA means something to you..this is a great choice.

[@berkalper4742]

wow that front overhang is monstrous, I did not realize how far the nose sticks out until you panned the camera down.

[@michaeldurrett8388]

It's a reality of Subaru's awd setup. The axles are already canted forward a few degrees. Any more and it would be problems.

[@LifeAsDad]

I took a shot every time he said “wilderness” and well im having my stomach pumped.

[@vcat150]

I wish Subaru would chill out on their plastic fender and bumper styling.

[@4lc441]

I kinda like it on this. On the new WRX though... yeah that's a disaster.

[@butundo]

We got the Forester Wilderness, which is a better vehicle than the outback for our needs. While it doesn't come with a turbo, it's higher roofline is better for visibility, and it fits our 2 big dogs better.

[@theunknownguy265]

11:19 doug first voice crack

[@crabbypadty393]

This seems like the perfect car for people who live in a city and want to pretend they go off-road.

[@qbertq1]

You've just described 80% of the 4x4 pickups and SUVs here in Colorado.

[@TucsonDude]

Yep, my Jeep Rubicon stays home most the time while I'm in my Roo.

[@Carlisho]

@@qbertq1 *90% of those vehicles in the whole world

[@Markjw25]

That's literally 99% of Subaru owners in general.

[@crabbypadty393]

@@Markjw25 that’s true.

[@lamborghinihexagons5502]

I’m excited for the Rhino GX review.

[@GrandSamurai69]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time doug says outback or wilderness

[@mcky_msh]

Just got back from the ER-- did you know that they have a cool vacuum that goes in your stomach? So cool!

[@GrandSamurai69]

@@mcky_msh lmaooo

[@simontrippy]

I love this - it harks back, it’s not technically an SUV either. It’s true to its roots and doesn’t look like all the other muck out there. It’s sparks Adventure and for that it should be commended!

[@joeljr570]

Yeah, and off-road doesn’t necessarily means rock crawling, it does look like a very fun car to drive on dirt

[@paultrigger3798]

it means i can drive through deeper snow

[@nirvana3887]

the word wilderness will be echoing in my head for a couple of days.

[@chrisdrummond8893]

I wish I had a dollar every time Doug says " wilderness" when he doesn't actually have to say" wilderness" or " wildernessy".

[@ikeaaron]

I took a shot every time and now I'm in the hospital.

[@chrisdrummond8893]

@@ikeaaron Feel better, man.

[@moijesuismoi99]

These Subaru outbacks are awesome off-road and very capable . The 4wheel drive system is actually quite advanced and you could definitely climb steep hills and trails with those despite what Doug says.This could compete with a Hilux or 4runner off road.Don't underestimate the Subaru due to it's SUV/Wagon looks

[@albieclementi]

I came here to say the same. You are totally correct! I have taken my Subies to places beyond where the trucks have turned around. They are very capable tools in the hands of a driver who understands what they have. I started back in the day with an '83 GL (wish I still had it), and have worked through the years and models and have landed on the 2006 OBXT manual 5-speed. My favorite of them all. The Wilderness looks really great, but I will stick to the 2006 for it is one of the last good models that allowed you to be the one in control of the vehicle...I am old-school and have trouble being comfortable with how much new cars think and choose for the driver...also, I won't become dysfunctional due to a botched firmware update due to no cell signal...which is most of the places I take a Subaru.

[@ParisChristianne]

I think the thing people get confused between trucks and Subarus is the kind of off-road driving they excel at. Symmetrical AWD will beat out any 4x4 or AWD truck in snow, gravel, mud, steep trails, etc. However, when it comes to crawling over rocks and large debris and doing the kinds of trails that you only do for fun not to get from point A to B, a 4x4 with locking diffs and big AT tires will outperform a Subaru.

[@patrickgroll2046]

I don’t know about that. I own a regular Outback and an old V8 4Runner and the latter is way way _way_ more stoutly built. Maybe this is much more heavy-duty than a normal Outback, but I kinda doubt it

[@coloradomoto3001]

Sorry but this just isn’t correct. This vehicle has a continuously variable transmission, pulleys and belts controlled by a computer that aren’t designed for actual abuse the way a traditional 4 wheel drive system (with an actual low range) is. There are plenty of videos on KZbin of people (like TFL guys) trying to crawl vehicles like this on a trail fit for a 4Runner, Wrangler, etc, and as soon as they hit a grade too steep or hardcore rocky terrain, the computer just shuts it down. In TLF’s video, the driver disabled every traction assist feature possible, floored the gas, and it just did…absolutely nothing, because that’s the way the computers on these are programmed. Even if the engine had the torque for this kind of use, the computer cuts it off because a fuel-efficient CVT isn’t designed to handle that kind of power from the engine and resistance from the wheels. Why do you think actual off-road vehicles never contain CVTs? Further, the approach and departure angles matter a lot when you’re actually doing more than just a dirt fire road, unless you want to scrape and drag your chin and tail on every obstacle. Vehicles like this are outstanding in the snow, comfortable for daily driving, and can handle dirt fire roads and some minor trails. Don’t let their marketing fool you into thinking they’ll keep up with a low-range 4 wheel drive vehicle actually designed for trails.

[@DonHavjuan]

With a hilux? HAHAHAHAHAH

[@straightbusta2609]

So this is the SUV version of the wagon version of an SUV with a car like driving experience?

[@joeljr570]

Its not and SUV, just a dirt wagon

[@rakeshiyer5637]

I'm drunk now as I participated in "take a shot everytime when Doug says 'wilderness'"

[@milesjohnson5620]

I come here every other month to hear him say “wilderness”…. I pronounce it like he does when someone asks me what car I drive.

[@kellingtonlink956]

That’s the nicest AMC Eagle I’ve ever seen. Kidding aside... Subaru did a great job trying to capture the less-Costco CUV market. Or rather those who will always pay a little more, just for the sake of standing out/showing off. Thanks for the video.

[@kellingtonlink956]

“Less OF the Costco CUV Market”

[@H-Town_Rides]

30 years from now he will love the exterior

[@AndisweatherCenter]

Awesome video Doug! This Subaru looks so cool! This Outback definitely looks more SUV then station wagon

[@benjaminsmith2287]

IT doesn't look like an SUV. It's long and low in the body, not tall like a crossover/SUV. It's raised up high but it has the lines of a wagon.

[@Bella_Andrea_4]

I’m genuinely impressed by this vehicle quality interior ,Doug !! Looks like Subaru really stepped up!

[@GromGuy19]

Dear Subaru, please make the Outback a wagan again.

[@paul4800]

Huh, I had it confused with a pickup truck for a minute there.

[@GromGuy19]

@@paul4800 I bet lmao

[@paul4800]

@@GromGuy19 I mean it just doesn't look like a wagon at all. Must be a pickup.

[@GromGuy19]

@@paul4800 it looks so much like a truck I thought it had a Super Duty badge on jt .

[@andyhaas3620]

The Outback actually is not as much of a wagon as it used to be. In fact, it is not really a wagon, it is more of an SUV than it used to be. Those gold accent points are actually tow hook covers and roof rack tie down covers.

[@baronvonjo1929]

Its definitely not a SUV. It's not a crossover either. Lifting something up and throwing plastic on it wont change what it is.

[@ezrablasing]

Really like this thing personally. The Geyser blue is quirky and it is certainly more muscular than the regular Outback. The wheels are sweet too. Can't wait to see a video on the Forester Wilderness.

[@DerekFletcher1]

I don't know what it is about this car but I like it more than anything out there (including suv's). My wife and I are looking and this is most likely going to be the one. It's perfect for living in a remote community in Canada. Nice work Subaru.

[@class1xgames599]

Does anyone know if the Golden accents on the bumpers are just for show, or is there really a recovery point/tie-down under them? I've noticed Doug tends to not understand the off road world and frequently gets small details wrong about vehicles with off road features. So I wanted to get a confirmation from someone.

[@kamX-rz4uy]

Front and rear tow points according to Subaru

[@martinw3577]

Yes it is covers. Sometimes he seems to make fun of cars he tests instead of beeing serious. And I don't see the gold? Isn't it moore like orange?

[@Itsjustmenate]

@@martinw3577 it’s actually a copper accent. Subaru salesman

[@martinw3577]

@@Itsjustmenate ok, copper sounds right. So why is he mocking around about gold? Just to be funny?!

[@Cluelessvlogs]

Martin W well seems like he didn’t know that they actually had a function so that’s probably why

[@madorca8162]

Could somebody be so kind as to do a super-cut of every time Doug says "wilderness"?

[@piefecta3012]

ive seen other people review this and they were really surprised by the off-road capability

[@martinmessineo4964]

Doug, you forgot to mention the standard all time all wheel drive, revised X-Mode, and the numerically higher final drive gear ratio (taken from the Ascent). Subaru mimics lockers by applying the brake on the wheels that are slipping. Go off-roading in one and you will be genuinely surprised on their capability. And when it comes to snow driving, they're tough to beat. My wife and I bought a 2019 Outback Touring 3.6R (last year for the 3.6 boxer six cylinder). At 75mph we average over 30mpg, it has some of the best headlights I've ever experienced, and luxury appointments that put it head and shoulders above similar vehicles in its price point. I forded a small creek in ours with a sharp steep uphill turn right after and it didn't even struggle. I should also mention that, at the time, I was towing a 2000 pound camper. These things are friggin mountain goats.

[@kenwiebe2473]

It's funny you mention how the black cladding around the wheels makes it look weird, yet you wouldn't even look at your defender without the after market ones on, I think they look fine and on the good side of fine even, look at it from the perspective of the meaning of the car, love your videos also keep it up, can't wait to see that maverick you teased at the beginning

[@kamX-rz4uy]

I think they look ugly but I give Subaru a pass because they are functional. When going through puddles off-road they keep water away from the windshield.

[@maxd9632]

Clearly designed by the Pontiac Aztec team.

[@jonlosito2004]

Nah.. that was the new 2022 WRX

[@anthonyku017]

Doug missed the opportunity to do an Outback review parked out back behind an Outback Steakhouse along with other Outbacks

[@GQ08]

So Doug has reviewed two Outbacks and STILL hasn't mentioned the full-time AWD?! It's a major differentiator for Subaru among customers shopping for a family crossover...

[@TheRausing1]

I don’t care what anyone says, that care is absolutely awesome.

[@timbrown9731]

Just remember guys before SaabKyle we had John Davis from MotorWeek…

[@ericwest7253]

I had out Outback before they switched to the CVT transmission. I never hesitated to take it anywhere, trails, mud, snow, etc.

[@theo21021]

If Chrysler still owns the AMC eagle name they should bring it back to compete with the outback, they could sell them in jeep dealerships. Right now the outback has no real competition. An outback with a hemi would have me sold.

[@rambobannana]

And make it 4wd NOT awd so it can actually go through mud and loose terrain

[@theo21021]

@@rambobannana Exactly, base it off the Grand Cherokee. They already have the platform and drivetrain.

[@rambobannana]

@@theo21021 great idea

[@nipperdawg1865]

Chrysler current business model is stuff a hemi in everything I dont think this will fit in the lineup

[@DougDeMuro]

The Outback's competition is SUVs and crossovers -- especially since it's now sized like one!

[@freetolook3727]

Doug needs a new category for Doug Score...off roading. - Ground clearance. - Hill grippiness. - Get out of mud holes. - Rock climbiness.

[@cruiseadmiral]

Absolutely! - Ground clearance on the parking lot - Hill grippiness on the dealerships' backyard hills - Get out of mud holes in the dealerships showrooms - Rock climbiness one block away of a dealership