GT7: 2023 Ultimate Guide: Suzuka Gr1 Series Strategy Guide Cafe Menu

The Hardest race in Gran Turismo 7, the Gr1 Prototype Series at Suzuka. I've re-made and fully re-tested this race with the most recently update to GT7 to explore which cars work the best, what the best strategy for fuel, tires and weather plus a full lap guide to help you along the way.
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Porsche 919 Hybrid Gr1
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[@Doughtinator]

UPDATE 1.31 Changes a few things with physics and PP calculations, I re-tested this and doing 1 stop strat with the Porsche 919 but using Medium tires still works

[@tpayne3047]

I appreciate your thoroughness my man!! I never go back and leave any updates on my videos 😂

[@Doughtinator]

The truth is. I enjoy doing this race 🤣🤣

[@tpayne3047]

@Doughtinator did your car’s PP change after the update? I bought the 919 but my points are about 30 lower with the exact same setup

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah it’s way lower than in the video. Which means you can run medium tires. Though the PP is lower it still performs well 👍🏻

[@rinkumultani6515]

on my race it start raining pretty heavy at lap 5-6 its my 4th try and same keep raining lol i guess im unlucky

[@BranMcRay]

I finally beat the race in the time it took for your video to finish. The difference maker, the only thing I even changed, was maxing out downforce. I didn’t even win but I was using the LM55 so I’ll take third in that and collect my menu book finally thank you.

[@arnymon9340]

Thank you for the updated version of video! Helps a lot more than previous one.

[@Doughtinator]

Glad it was helpful! 👍🏻

[@otisdriftwood3829]

I'm having a love/hate relationship with this race since it's part of the weekly challenges. Thank you for this awesome (if slightly older) video.

[@YuckFou0x0FFFF]

FINALLY I was able to beat this race with the 919. You REALLY have keep an eye on that weather radar. Setting TC to 5 helped too

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Good job man. It’s a hard race 👍🏻👍🏻

[@floreaclaudiu1150]

Gt7 is a joke,done this race finish 10th no pit stop at all,ai cars pit in 1 sec they out

[@Doughtinator]

I might do some research into this. I’ve heard this a lot 👍🏻

[@floreaclaudiu1150]

@@Doughtinator i have checked on reddit ,people complaining about this ai thing ,this game ia almost impossible compared to the older versions

[@lebronejhames7265]

Dude this game is so easy just use this guys no pit strat and it becomes a cake walk was literally 39.928 seconds ahead of second I literally lapped 5 ppl

[@sequenxial]

@@lebronejhames7265build

[@bendysproductions4647]

How did you manage a no pit stop ? My pr is 9th place 3 pit stops on daytona track with ferrari vision

[@danzn6lv]

Was doing terrible with the GR010, got second place 1st try with the 919. Thank u lol

[@AD1978leo]

I grabbed 1st place after using this strategy! Thank You!!!!! 🙏

[@Doughtinator]

Nice one 👍🏻👍🏻

[@StudioOCOMATimelapse]

Thank you man!!! 🤪 I've tried a lot of time without making it since I saw your video!!! 👍 I've bought the Super Formula Honda because I had only 1 million left and thanks to your adjustments, after 2 attempts I won!!! 🏎

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Good job. It’s a hard race 👍🏻👍🏻

[@StudioOCOMATimelapse]

A good strategy always pays off 🤪 Thanks again for your very good explanations 👍

[@kaitlynsworld9235]

Finally passed it thank you so much

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Good job. It’s a tough one 👍🏻👍🏻

[@RRT_NightShifter1]

I started GT7 using chase cam. As I got more proficient, I moved to bumper cam, then to hood cam. I love using cockpit view but some, like the Porsche 919 are horrible. So I tend use either cockpit or bumper cam. I love listening to the whine of the transmission.

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah transmission noise sounds awesome. I used chase cam when I started out with controller.

[@papayamadness1019]

I've always used bumper cam or bonnet cam since gt3 . I find chase cam alot more harder for some reason

[@WB-14]

any cam apart from cockpit makes it a kids game, sounds like ego is driving you,

[@RRT_NightShifter1]

@@WB-14 I appreciate your reply. However, what I don't appreciate is your passive aggressiveness. I'll use whichever cam I choose, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks. Keep racing your way mate. Cheers.

[@ScottPC]

Thanks a lot for this! Appreciate you taking in my comments! New sub!

[@Doughtinator]

Thanks man. Always happy to help. Appreciate your support 👍🏻👍🏻

[@sportfan27]

Thx for the setup, i was really struggling with this race (controller). Best i could do was 2nd place. I finally won with medium tyres at start en switch to soft at the end of lap 6. I had the race without any rain luckily. FM is switched between 3 and 4. 💪👍 At the finish i had a 12 second lead.

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Good work. It’s a tough race 👍🏻👍🏻

[@dark-criby6726]

thanks for the tips i did the race. ima subscribe

[@Doughtinator]

Nice! Thanks man 👍🏻👍🏻

[@magicwaffl3z]

Thanks for this video! Spent all last night trying this race only to have my best result be 6th. Gonna use your tips to get it done

[@Doughtinator]

Hope it helps man. The random weather plays a huge factor. The race is more straightforward when it doesn’t rain 👍🏻

[@magicwaffl3z]

@@Doughtinator funny enough in like the ten different runs I did it only lightly rained once. Now that I know how to handle the course I'm sure it will downpour on my next try 🤣

[@Doughtinator]

🤣 guaranteed. It’s strange. Some people are saying it rains all the time for them 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@magicwaffl3z]

@@Doughtinator just came back to say on my first attempt after watching this it indeed did rain terribly the whole race 😂

[@Doughtinator]

Oh man. The game listens! 🤣🤣

[@JK18.]

Nicely raced mate

[@Doughtinator]

Thanks man 👍🏻👍🏻

[@2w0nGranTurismo]

Jus finished in 2nd with the 908 HDi Peugoet Gr.1 Car on Hard Difficulty. I also spun out jus as the rain started😂

[@Doughtinator]

The 908 is a solid choice 👍🏻

[@SSRT_JubyDuby8742]

I have done it four times for the accounts, really enjoyed it, I had rain three times 😁. I wish that there were more like this or the divine comedy. I use roof cam, when on controller it's chase cam 😁 Like deployed 👍 😎🎙🏎✅️

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Thanks for the support Julian 👍🏻👍🏻

[@CorporateZombi]

I'm playing on PSVR2 so it's cockpit view all the way baby!

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. PSVR2 in LMP1 cars would be so exciting! I really want to try it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@DonatoXlll]

Changed some stuff around and used the mclaren vgt instead, but the strat helped me get 1st. I rained very hard which oddly helped me i think.

[@Doughtinator]

Nice. Happy to help man. Good job on the win 👍🏻👍🏻

[@jonathanfth]

Great Video helped me out I did the 911 no stop Strategy and it worked out Great even tho I had too stop one time because it started raining and I had too change tires. Dont fuel ur car in this Situation and u will win. 🫡

[@Doughtinator]

Nice one. It’s a hard one 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Godeepgts11]

Thank you so much for going over this one again! I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to reply with the track times ( as you asked) , but I'm hoping to use your guideline to finish in the podium!

[@Doughtinator]

No worries man. Hope it helps. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Godeepgts11]

@@Doughtinator it did! After looking last, the SF19 won it easily. I was 100% using the incorrect car in that instance 😅 One pit stop on 8 for gas/ RH the whole time, heavy rain on 5-8 but still managed on average 1:50 per lap. Thanks again for your help!!

[@Godeepgts11]

@@Doughtinator edit, as a bonus. The roulette ticket finally gave me something good! A Toyota ts050! About time 😅

[@MetalGear_Markie]

Just got first in this race because for this video thank you 🙏 months of trying too with no luck at all

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome man. Nice one. Glad to help 👍🏻👍🏻

[@MetalGear_Markie]

@@Doughtinator I even got pushed into the sand on lap 7 from someone spinning out and still managed to hold position. Ran full lean the whole race and put intermediates on lap 6. Rain started lap 7 till the end but the car had consistent grip I was able to push just as hard in the rain 😎👍

[@tongkachu]

thank you. do you have guides for the other 2 races? can't seem to finish it using the toyota

[@Doughtinator]

I have guides for the other two races. They were made with an earlier version of GT7. The tire wear was much less then. I do think the strategy will still work though.

[@OutCast907]

Even with the Bugatti VGT, I'm not fast enough, my brain cannot proceed that you have to go really faster than any before

[@supercededman]

A great video, Chris. Every race I've had there it has pelted down. I actually tried the Bugatti Gr1 (Chiron VGT?), and was doing okay until it lost TOTAL grip on the hairpin - more than once - and sorta acquaplaned off, in the DRY. In your opinion is this a feature of the new physics, where cars can just lose total grip and crash? I've even had this happen with the Porsche 904 But, back to the race :-) The Super Formula looks the way to go, I reckon. I'll try it, but the Porsche fits the bill for the spirit of the race - Gr1 cars. The open-wheeler seems a little like cheating, lol. Now, it is over to your merchandise shop. You've earned some loyalty and I've earned some gifts for myself! EDIT: I use VR, and some of those cars have a REALLY narrow FoV. I guess I could try out the view from the cockpit (which is adjustable in VR) in the VR Showroom, but the Super Formula may be the way to go if I want a good view!

[@Doughtinator]

I’ve not experience the loss of grip you mention in this update… yet. I’ll keep an eye out for it. The weather in this race is VERY random it’s so hard to tell. SF is definitely the most normal car to drive. Just be careful on corner exit until you’re beyond 3rd gear. Thanks for your support Steve. Just watching/liking/commenting videos really helps to show KZbin the videos are worth pushing to other people 👍🏻👍🏻

[@fernandocrisp2151]

Does this car lower the impeller during the race because it is a hybrid? does it lose power?

[@SUBZERO8K]

Does the overtake work on the SF19 in this race? Noticed it had the HUD element for it but didn't see if you used it or not.

[@Doughtinator]

It’s a VERY good point. It does work however I found it best to not use it for a few reasons. It makes it harder to plan for fuel. The overtake button does drink a bit more fuel when in use. Secondly. It’s more things to think about. The car is already fast enough. Suzuka is a hard track. Keep it simple and consistent. 👍🏻

[@lincolncampbell2014]

I used the stock Gtr Lm Nismo. Level Easy. Racing Mediums. finished 15th place😅.

[@lincolncampbell2014]

I also used Racing Intermediates.

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah the NISMO Gr1 car is really hard work.

[@EmperorSheepy]

Won this in the 919, started on hards, rain started on lap 4 so pitted for full wets and took it easy for the rest of the race. Fuel map 3 for the whole race and a quick top up during the pit stop. Was playing on a PS4 with a Thrustmaster T150 if anyone was curious. Thanks for the guide!

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Good work on the win in the wet 👍🏻👍🏻

[@underworld323]

I got rain on the last lap😂

[@Doughtinator]

Oh boy! 😳

[@grantanderson3709]

Since I got the PSVR2, I find there's no other way to race! It's SO MUCH BETTER! There's no comparison to being able to look through the turns.

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah I can image VR is incredible 👍🏻👍🏻

[@grantanderson3709]

@@Doughtinator I hope you a chance to try it.

[@user-jr8ou8iy5t]

I have completed 3 months and have not been able to win. The type of vehicle I use is Toyota TS050 16 Hybrid. What is the solution and what is the best vehicle to use in order to win?

[@Twisted_Fusion]

Well this car cost more money than the amount that I get for doing it so I think I’ll just hold off on this particular strategy

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah it’s not a money making race

[@neilmirto7009]

👍👍 like deployed

[@Doughtinator]

Always appreciated Neil 👍🏻👍🏻

[@FourFour2theFloor]

I've been told the lm55 gets the job done fairly easy. But is it the gr1 version or non gr1 version?

[@Doughtinator]

I’ve heard that’s a great choice. I would assume it’s the Gr1 version. But check a few other comments that recommend it and ask them. A lot of helpful people in here 👍🏻

[@yashara1e]

How do you measure pp without clicking the button? In car settings menu Awesome video BTW really enjoyed your knowledge, great effort 👍

[@Doughtinator]

Thanks man. You can press the triangle button after each change. 👍🏻

[@travelpigs7855]

100% this guy is playing on easy mode. It rains every single attempt on my runs either lap 2 or 5 and A.Wilk dose not pit laps 3, 6 and 9 he pit lap 4

[@Doughtinator]

A lot keeps changing with patches and updates.

[@kalascovs]

I just did it in my first attempt A little bit of luck A used the Super formula 2023 with Fuji tunnig and medium tires On the first lap the rain started So i pit, put IM and refuel Nobody else pitted, so at the same exit lap i overtook everybody Pitted again on the 8th lap, IM again, no need to refuel Win with a lap of advantage

[@Doughtinator]

Awesome. Made the right pit call 👍🏻👍🏻

[@sogekingable]

Can use super formula car in this race?

[@Doughtinator]

Yes you can. It works really well 👍🏻

[@Rahchasportstalk]

👍🏾

[@fxvx1553]

26:00

[@monacirk5951]

Hello, as another colleague here says, I can't get to the PR points that you have. Seems like the values have dropped. I'm going to try to run the race without stops. By the way... the race is very very fun!! Greetings and congratulations from Spain! (excuse my english)

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah the PP numbers have changed with each update. I re ran this race again recently though. Check out that one 👍🏻

[@sebasx417]

​@@Doughtinatorthis my case i do the changes but i have 910 of pr

[@unclelive6918]

F1 type car work good with this track

[@Doughtinator]

Yes. A solid choice 👍🏻

[@ElectricTSL]

Hey Chris, funny enough I found this one quite easy but if you can help me win the neo classic cafe race at the red bull ring let me know. Have no idea what car to use, so far nothing works🤣🤣

[@Doughtinator]

Interesting. I’ll take a look at this one. I don’t think I’ve even tried it yet 😳🤣

[@tugw9125]

@@Doughtinator I beat this one with Suzuki Escudo if you lucky to get it.

[@supercededman]

From memory I used the 1983 Golf, tricked-out to the max. I think I even had Nitrous, but I could be wrong.

[@haidenchristian391]

Could you test it out again in this update

[@Doughtinator]

Here is my latest attempt. Should still work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJy0dHmfoqmXZ7c

[@PedricCoumbe]

For fuck's sake, I'd finally finished this race, I was in first place with a 10-second lead, and now... I've run out of fuel... I'm literally going to destroy my console!

[@Doughtinator]

Eek!! You can do it man. Keep at it 👍🏻👍🏻

[@ivandeadmage8]

Mazda LM55 Vision its was easy

[@luoyianwu]

On 1.31 this 919 Hybrid 16' setup now has 908pp. I wonder what the new best strategy is

[@Doughtinator]

oh boy... its all changed again 🤷‍♂️

[@finlayfriend313]

😭😭😭just bought it for this shit

[@itsjayzz7611]

oh that’s why? man i was wondering why his pp was so much higher. is this even possible with 908 pp? edit: actually i just completed and now my car is 930pp? idk good video tho

[@sebasx417]

​@@itsjayzz7611how you do this?

[@justadonut1]

I know this is off topic, but I gotta ask anyways. I understand that every Gr. 3 vehicle can’t be ranked because they are better than others for certain tracks, but what about the ones that are just generally worse and I shouldn’t buy at all? Here’s all the Gr. 3 vehicles: ⬇️ Aston Martin: DBR9 GT1 ‘10 V12 Vantage GT3 ‘12 Audi: R8 LMS Evo ‘19 R8 LMS ‘15 AMG: Mercedes-AMG GT3 ‘16 SLS AMG GT3 ‘11 Afla Romeo 4C Gr. 3 BMW: M6 GT3 Sprint Model ‘16 M6 GT3 Endurance Model ‘16 M3 GT ‘11 Z4 GT3 ‘11 Chevrolet: Corvette C7 Gr.3 Dodge: Viper SRT GT3-R ‘15 Ferrari: 458 Italia GT3 ‘13 Ford: Mustang Gr. 3 Ford GT Race Car ‘18 Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II Honda: NSX Gr. 3 Jaguar: F-Type Gr. 3 Lamborghini: Huracán GT3 ‘15 Lexus: RC F GT3 Prototype ‘16 RC F GT3 ‘17 McLaren: 650S GT3 ‘15 Mazda: Atenza Gr. 3 RX- VISION GT3 CONCEPT Mitsubishi Motors: Lancer Evolution Final Gr. 3 Nissan: GT-R NISMO GT3 ‘13 GT-R NISMO GT3 ‘18 Porsche: 911 RSR (991) ‘17 Peugeot: PEUGEOT VGT (Gr.3) RCZ Gr. 3 Renault R.S.01 GT3 ‘16 Subaru: WRX Gr. 3 BRZ GT300 ‘21 Toyota: GR Supra Racing Concept ‘18 FT-1 VGT (Gr. 3) Volkswagen: Volkswagen GTI VGT (Gr. 3) Beetle Gr. 3 Here’s all the Gr. 3 Vehicles: ⬆️ I understand that every Gr. 3 vehicle can’t be ranked because they are better than others for certain tracks, but what about the ones that are just generally worse and I shouldn’t buy at all?

[@Doughtinator]

Interesting question. Without any setup work or tuning. The mid engine cars are typically harder to drive. Lambo. Ferrari. Audi etc are all hard work. With a bit of tuning they can be great. But the default setups aren’t ideal. The newest AMG is a solid choice 👍🏻

[@justadonut1]

@@Doughtinator Thank you so much man. I appreciate the heads up.

[@justadonut1]

@@Doughtinator I’ll watch your tuning guide videos to tune up the vehicles.

[@Avloman]

How is your Porsches pp so much higher than mine? I used the same tune and upgrades and I got to 908.

[@X-raymania]

They lowered the pp with the new updates

[@thejjzz]

I win this with Super Formula with one pit stop.

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah super formula is a great choice for this race 👍🏻

[@harryreesby8656]

Has anybody tested this race with Ferrari VGT? As I used that car for the other 2 races and got first on both without any problems

[@lincolncampbell2014]

Did you try the GTR LM Nismo?

[@bradgeorge1851]

This car is expensive but are really the best car

[@Doughtinator]

I think the 919 is the best Gr1 car. The Super Formula car is a little cheaper. 👍🏻

[@bradgeorge1851]

@@Doughtinator I was using the Nissan and that thing was rearwheel and sucks at the corners then I tryed the Porsche and it stick like glue on the track due to being 4wd

[@sebasx417]

One people can help me when i start the race i have 927 of pr but when i do the tune of the video my pr down to 910 what i do wrong?

[@Doughtinator]

Things may have changed since recent update. I think I did another remake of this video on my channel. That should help 👍🏻

[@sebasx417]

@@Doughtinator thanck you because i cant didn t pass the nivel is so frusant

[@user-xo2zq7sl8u]

How many times in pit stop??

[@Doughtinator]

1 pit stop

[@ricstanley8769]

Why has your one got a higher pp than mine when everything is exactly the same..... Mine is 904pp yours is 944pp... Im confused

[@Doughtinator]

The PP calculations have changed since I did this vid.

[@pabz3218]

What was the difficulty level? Normal?

[@Doughtinator]

This was all done on hard difficulty.

[@pabz3218]

@@Doughtinator meanwhile, I was only able to get 3rd place in normal 😆

[@Doughtinator]

It’s a hard race man. Don’t underestimate it. 👍🏻

[@pabz3218]

@@Doughtinator took me three months to do that as well! I'll try the tips you provided. I've never had a dry race there, I'll wait for that

[@Amrrrz]

Thanks a lot man 🙌🏽🤍 very helpful

[@Doughtinator]

Happy to help man 👍🏻👍🏻

[@exo_ash]

I just used f1 cars for these races

[@Doughtinator]

Yes they work really well 👍🏻

[@boeitniet7408]

It is im possible level 31 is my level

[@technicallyscared2346]

I just used the F1 car and smacked them by 30 secs

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah that’s a very solid car to drive 👍🏻

[@yeeetbix__]

How did you get 930pp?

[@X-raymania]

The new update that happened after the video lowered down the pp of the car

[@X-raymania]

So u can’t get it that high anymore

[@X-raymania]

But he said using medium tires will still work

[@X-raymania]

Read his pinned comment and replies

[@BlockkBoy_]

This game is fun but damn it’s Fucking stupid at times

[@Doughtinator]

I hear you man. Some proper hard races in there 👍🏻

[@pmtfranco]

Nop, Still doesn't work no matter the car I try or the configuration I try, its literally impossible with normal luck. Idk what u do to have that amount of luck to never get rain, or only get a few droplets. On my races it always rains for 2 to 4 laps, flushing water like crazy, making u do 2 pitstops if u don't want to keep spinning round and round. Then u can't obviously counter this by putting soft tires because it exceeds the PP limit. So facing this, these 3 races are literally impossible to beat unless u spent 5M on a car that appears once in a lifetime on the unique dealership, or u have an immeasurable amount of luck to never get rain. And don't come answering this that I drive bad or any other lame excuse, I literally play this game on a controller with no driving assists turned on, and made 1st place in every single other race besides these 3 (and the neoclassic challenge because I don't have 5M to spend on a car). I'm not hating on you, its just this game is not balanced (as we see from the GTR being broken in a various number of pro races).

[@haidenchristian391]

I don’t think it works anymore

[@Doughtinator]

Here is my latest attempt. Should still work. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJy0dHmfoqmXZ7c

[@tugw9125]

The I.A is ridiculously bullshit here. I don't mean in the difficulty, but heir awareness of you is non existent.

[@Doughtinator]

Yeah. Ai awareness is not the best 🤣🤣

[@linomiguel360]

This race is impossible to win

[@trendinguk]

Ive tried SO HARD WITH THE TOYOTA BUT I CANNOT GET TOP 3

[@Doughtinator]

The Toyota isn’t quite as good as the Porsche 919 👍🏻

[@trendinguk]

@Doughtinator ended up grinding to get 1Million and bought a Super formula car and came first 😂 had enough of that race

[@Doughtinator]

@trendinguk nice! Super formula gets it done 👍🏻👍🏻

[@ricstanley8769]

Chatting shit mate .....car constantly spins out.

[@Doughtinator]

I’ve redone this race in a more recent update. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJy0dHmfoqmXZ7c

[@jonathanfth]

Skill issue

[@cpt-420]

wheres the tyre temp app plz @doughtinator

[@Doughtinator]

Search for ezio app on Apple Store.

[@cpt-420]

@@Doughtinator thank you👍