Sony APS-C wide angle lenses for vloggers: 10-20mm F4 PZ, 15mm F1.4, and 11mm F1.8 Review

[@RichardoBrit]

Hey, parts of this episode look really bad…

[@hikertrashfilms]

That’s because these snowflakes refuse to give the public full 4K & 8K. They are giving you breadcrumbs compared to the real quality these bodies and glass yield

[@ucnguyenminh9393]

Yea like it was filmed with defective lens or something, they should have disclosed it at the beginning of the video!

[@falsemcnuggethope]

@@ucnguyenminh9393 Can't believe how they didn't notice it in post. Not at least disclosing it is a real hit for the reputation of a camera review channel.

[@jlwilliams]

Hey, was this the same lens you used for the Fuji XH2S review? That looked really soft…

[@antonykeane5586]

@@falsemcnuggethope hope you’re being sarcastic, they’re “very aware of that” as they mentioned at the very beginning

[@benni1015]

The 11 and 15mm could be pretty fantastic for astrophotography. Fast maximum aperture, sharp wide open and that at such a wideangle, that is really nice.

[@RyougiVector]

As long as the coma isn't a problem when kinda stopped down

[@benni1015]

@@RyougiVector i have just seen christoph Frosts review on the 11mm and it seems like coma is no issue, even at F1.8. The lens got strong distortion but is fantastically sharp.

[@Tropfl]

I'm a simple man. I see Chris and Jordan, I thumbs up

[@falsemcnuggethope]

Parts of this video looked really bad though, wonder if they noticed.

[@frankfeng2701]

Third-party competition: Tamron 11-20 f/2.8 ($800) Samyang 12 f/2 ($350) Sigma 16 f/1.4 ($400) or Viltrox 13 f/1.4 ($430)

[@falsemcnuggethope]

Hey, parts of this episode looked really 𝒶𝓇𝓉𝒾𝓈𝓉𝒾𝒸.

[@Astrolavista]

I'm going to have to get that 11mm for my ZV-E10 :)

[@ziginox]

Is the 1.4/15mm G the first APS-C lens to have an aperture ring? I'm also shocked how small it is, compared to the beast that is the Sigma 16mm 1.4 DC DN. Hopefully we'll see the 10-20mm compared to the old 10-18mm f/4, curious to see how much better it is. Maybe this means we'll see more Sony APS-C bodies soon?

[@SuperLisandro86]

And also compared to that fat Fuji 16mm f1.4. Probably it has more in camera corrections, but I would took that over the huge size anyday.

[@ziginox]

@@SuperLisandro86 no kidding, although the Sigma isn't absolutely terrible.

[@TW-iu9zy]

… the 1.4/15 takes very sharp pictures and overall good looking images. Best WA prime for Sony APSC so far. 👍🏻

[@Mn-xh9ps]

I see those lens like a way for sony to say "APSC is not dead, we will come back soon" and it gives me hope. Their APSC dont need a lot to be killer camera, just ibis every where with good active stab, 422 10bit, 4k60, less rolling shutter, and voilà..Those 3 very wide and light lens are also a déclaration that sony apsc will/are/want to become the "vlog king" and kill the game, 11mm f1.8 will have heavy success if they pull the good apsc camera that go with it.

[@bondgabebond4907]

I have the A7R3 for high detailed shots and the a6600 to take with me everywhere I go. I love the a6600, the size, its ability to take really great pictures. I'm looking at the 15mm 1.4. I gave my daughter my 16mm Sigma an my a6500, so I am missing that ultra-wide fast lens. So good to see aps-c is alive and well.

[@Penguins247]

Just wait until Sony release their camera based around the 26MP stacked CMOS APS-C sensor that's just appeared in the Fuji X-HS2 :)

[@Mn-xh9ps]

@@Penguins247 Yeah I m waitng for that ;)....I m a bit afraid for the price and not sure that those stacked sensor will be in sony apsc line..even if it s not stacked sensor I think they could do a better controlled rolling shutter sensor than the old 24mp with old BSI tech...price is one of the thing that sony apsc did well, not cheap but powerhouse for the price :) When I see the fuji xhs2, it s great but 2500dollar/euro...I would just go full frame (A7 IV) for the price (and fuji apsc are big/heavy and expensive lens, close to FF)...so I still hope that sony will manage impressive apsc in a light weight, small package, moderate price. and I m not sure it s possible (especially with stacked sensor)

[@Folly_Inds]

For the same aperture, the old sony 10 - 18mm exists with in lens stabilization. I think that'll fill my needs better even if it does have more breathing

[@saifaldin_]

For video only, that’s a fair point. For still images, there’s a significant improvement in image quality.

[@pergunnareriksson]

I saw one review of this new lens praising it while also comfortably saying that the 10-18 is old and basically not worth buying in 2022. That rubbed me the wrong way as I'm sure the 10-18 still is a very competent ans useful lens. I've been following that reviewer for years and his comment means I'll definitely view his videos with a different perspective from now on.

[@saifaldin_]

@@pergunnareriksson The biggest problem with the 10-18 was sample variation. If one manage to get a lens that’s not de-centred, then it that’s quite a good setup (especially for video). I particularly like the size and weight of that lens. Having said that, even on the best copies, the outer edges never really get super sharp when stopped down - at least not compared to some newer offerings.

[@Folly_Inds]

@@pergunnareriksson There was some manufacture issues with the early makes for the 10-18 but I've got a later one I picked up used, and it works just fine. certainty for the sort of hobby use I get out of it. I think weather of your body has Ibis or not would be a good deciding factor. also perhaps look into the budget cost for both the lenses

[@truthseeker6804]

these are the exact lenses canon needs for the rf-s

[@KlipsenTube]

Sony did create the NEX line to reduce size, weight and price, but have since worked toward increasingly bulky, heavy and expensive camera bodies and lenses. Even the A6600 is much bigger than any NEX, and, with mostly FF lenses being introduced since the FE mount appeared, many E mount owners were probably feeling a bit disillusioned in Sony's intentions with APS-C, so this is very good news. My days of carrying an A900 body and several big, heavy lenses on long trips are gone. Today, the A6600 and two or three light lenses - now including the 10-20 mm - is all I want and need.

[@thebitterfig9903]

Previous episode: "I feel like we've been reviewing a lot of ultrawide lenses."

[@MarioPalomera]

I don't really understand what is it with Sony and their APS-C line strategy anymore. 3 new lenses and no new cameras??? just months after killing/freezing many models...

[@1barnet1]

I like these new lenses though. Especially that 11mm F1.8 looks fun.

[@Elgsdyr]

I have a feeling we'll see some new APS-C cameras from Sony soon. Especially the 15mm looks way too serious for Sony not to as serious about the crop mount in general in the future. And the freezing of models was because of parts shortage. It was openly stated so.

[@apricanephoto]

I agree with you. Also these are not the lenses I would have imagined Sony coming up with. At this point I'd like to see something to rival the XF150-600 and a similar camera from Sony, otherwise I think they will have trouble staying relevant for photographers. (Although, tbh, seeing as how stabilization sucks on Sony cameras, I'm not sure that even such a lens would make me stay with Sony APS-C at this point...)

[@ziginox]

@@Elgsdyr Canon just released some APS-C bodies, and we all know how much Sony likes swooping in immediately to steal the limelight. I think we'll be seeing a release soon.

[@MRPC5]

They want you to buy the full frame models. The apsc line is pretty much dead.

[@Pharesm]

SONY's three lenses are literally pissing on Canon's APSC body release! Impeccable timing... Canon has no fast, bright, wide lenses - not even on the road map...

[@elvinlawcc]

I bought all of them. The 15mm is the sharpest lens, second sharpest one which is out of my expectation turn out to be the 10 to 20mm F4 wide angle lens. The 11mm F1.8 performs well but not as good as the two others. I think I will sell the 11mm and get myself the Sigma 18 to 50mm DC DN zoom lens! It has the constant F2.8 aperture.

[@bijosn]

You are the second person to say this

[@thesestillmoments]

Y’all just spewing out so many reviews… I AM HERE FOR IT. MORE. WE NEED MORE.

[@GlucoseYummy]

please do a photography review of the 15mm 1.4, would really appreciate that

[@HappyHubris]

Now Sony needs to put a video-proficient sensor in their APSC lineup, instead of Jello City.

[@frankfeng2701]

It's a total disgrace that the same "Jello" has been used on 7 apsc bodies since 2014.

[@mirrorlessny]

@@frankfeng2701 yea jello 4k, they should make two different apsc sensors = 1 with more megapixels for photography & the other with like 20mp for video,,,,,, + active ibis & 10bit codecs of course

[@jonuiuc]

It would be cool if there was a crop mode on the A7c that used the extra real estate on that sensor to do an extra bit of electronic stabilization but with zero effective crop at apsc.

[@frankfeng2701]

@@mirrorlessny Even the same 14MP crop mode from A7iv implemented into an apsc body would work great for vlogging and general purpose.

[@LoightaFluwid]

@@mirrorlessny Seems like Fuji did that first with their X-H2 series.

[@tumanforlife5977]

looks like we have so many camera and so many lenses coming this year

[@zupperm]

So the problems with sharpness and bokeh referenced in the last video is the defective lens?

[@claudiubanu8438]

Hello! I will recive tomorrow Sony ZV E10 and the 11 mm lens. Can i use ND filters without vignetting on this wide angle? Do i need a bigger filter with a step up ring? Thanks!

[@MollyFitzBrown]

I’m torn between the 11 or 10-20 for vlogging. I will be using active stabe or smoothing with catalyst at all times…

[@antonykeane5586]

Go with the 10-20mm, the zoom will be better for when you want to turn the camera around and film other people

[@MollyFitzBrown]

@@antonykeane5586 True. I'm thinking the zoom would be better for pictures too, I usually take pics of my kids with whatever camera I'm vlogging with too.

[@tdavis7396]

I agree. Also, the 10-20 allows you to play with the different millimeters with or without active stabe to find the perfect compositions for vlogs

[@Elgsdyr]

I'm curious about the RAW distortion on these. As compact as the zoom and the 11mm is there must be quite a bit.

[@Elgsdyr]

Just been looking through samples and the IQ looks fantastic even with corrections, so I guess it's nothing to worry about.

[@Elgsdyr]

@Photogopinion Yeah, I saw it in Dustin Abbots review of the 15mm too. The good thing is that the shape of the distortion in both primes makes it easily corrected (if using RAW without lens profiles) and it doesn't seem to compromise the IQ.

[@m0uks3y38]

@Sony Please give us an APS-C Camera with Stacked Sensor 24 MP, IBIS FZ 100 Battery 10 Bit 4K New Body Design I am sure you would make a lot of people incredibly happy, including your share holders.

[@ruisearts]

Fujifilm

[@frankluo230]

Stacked sensor would be expensive, a6600 is already testing the water of higher priced APSC body, I don't think Sony want to sell APSC body priced higher than the good old A7III. Which would you choose for Vlogging? 11mm plus stacked new body or good old 20mm G lens with A7c?

[@m0uks3y38]

@@frankluo230 Good point, let's just hope for a faster scanning sensor

[@NickSiekierski]

just picked up the 11mm for my ZV-E10, I would have liked OSS, especially at that price (even at a discount it was over $500) but I'll be experimenting with Active Steady Shot and a gimbal, I've heard good things about Sony's Catalyst Browse too

[@VivekGupta-sh3lj]

Hey Chris, which bag is that you are using?

[@benjaminthorpe7990]

I want a Sony APS C camera in a full frame body

[@rott921]

HEY!!! RESPECT THE ALGORITHM!! Those comments could really help!!!

[@efficaciousuave]

also any news/rumors about any new apsc from sony? at least bring back the existing ones like a6600..being looking for it for months now....

[@MasoodJamal]

Which these ultra wide angle lenses do you suggest for indoor real estate videography in a low light noisy situation with the Sony ZV-E10 camera ? 👇 1. Sony 11mm f.1/8 2. Samyang 12mm 3. Rokinon 12mm 4. Tamron 11-20mm 5. Viltrox 13mm F1.4

[@juan_samuel9939]

Heyy, parts of this episode look really bad

[@grdprojekt]

Hey Jordan, parts of this video looks terrible, did you guys use defective lens or something?

[@thedalailmao]

Jordon said not to type so typing here. Jordan, you're awesome.

[@tomapaunovic]

Is it a coincidence that review of new Sony APS-C lenses is filmed with defective Fuji APS-C lens :)

[@markymarkreviews]

I cannot believe that these lenses are being touted as for for vloggers when none of them have OSS and neither do the cameras that they go on. Very disappointed. Footage looks jerky and full of artefacts with the active image stabilisation of the ZV-E10. Sony desperately need to sell a decent APS-C camera with SSS or start to produce lenses with OSS, which I thought the 10-20mm was going to have. Would have been a perfect lens.

[@skepsys]

maybe they're hinting that some new apsc is on the way this year..

[@markymarkreviews]

@@skepsys I hope so as that is an increasingly popular market ,especially something compact & light. I do feel full frame cameras & lenses have become too big & heavy again. Either a new image stabilised APS-C body or new compact gimbal/grip to make up for the lack of lens OSS.

[@LoightaFluwid]

You need to raise the shutter speed to minimize the jerkiness and the artefacts when using Active steadyshot just like catalyst browse.

[@ELmelfes]

yeah, two videos in one day!

[@schnitz76]

Can you even buy a Sony APS-C camera anymore?

[@igeisendoerfer]

Would be great if Sony would start shipping the 6000 series again.

[@lnewbyliveca]

The 15mm would be a great astrophotography lens

[@fredericbeudot822]

Super nice vintage look at the start of the video, way to use a lensbaby 😁

[@Lofote]

The GM monikor is not on because these lenses are not optimized for round, smooth bokeh, which is what GM is about. Many people still think "GM means sharper and better than G" but thats not true. It is not a one dimensional line from "bad to good".

[@Ildskalli]

“But if you’ve got a friend…” *Excited puppy noises* “…or a Jordan” *Depression sets in*

[@z352kdaf8324]

You guys don't like Sony Catalyst Browse??!!

[@jonuiuc]

so sony made a bunch of lenses specifically for camera conspiracy's.

[@michaelcroff7097]

The 10-20mm suffers at f5,6 and above just like the original Rokinon 85 f1.4! Interesting

[@allencrider]

Why didn't they shoot this on an a6600?

[@sofronio.]

sony needs to release a side flip screen apsc Cam with ibis.

[@alhOOO2O]

Hi guys, don't know if you noticed but some of the shots don't look very good...

[@VernalFilm]

Sony sacrificed stabilisation for "power zoom" on the 10-20mm. Congratulations. Although ultra wide angle lens you will suffer even with IBIS for video. I had the 10-18mm and replaced with Tamron 11-20. Noticeable shake with latter and hence regretting the choice.

[@efficaciousuave]

11mm + zve10 + catalyst browse????

[@陈浩冉-q4z]

Excellent review.But I really wanna see the effect of bokeh and LOCA, Why you didn't show in the video?

[@denisgehlhaar8902]

Wow! So many accouncements these days O.o Good i kept my little A6000 wich will be a landscape Monster with that tiny 11mm 1.8.

[@80-80.]

Lovely filmic look. Lol.

[@ZeeGill]

I have to get 11mm for my ZV E10 & Crane M3 setup

[@hridaimanav3620]

How is it working for you?

[@ScottWilder]

Does a trio of new lenses mean that we're about to see the next generation a6000 bodies?

[@Donbros]

Yes. 99% everything they have on apsc side is dated (besides lens) and you kinda break the law by buying micro usb cameras in europe :) zve 10 ks maybe a bit newer but still

[@ScottWilder]

@@Donbros yeah, the zve10 is still the same old sensor in an updated package. I think it's well past time for Sony to bring out the next gen

[@mirrorlessny]

@@Donbros 10bit codecs / active ibis / new touch menus / 4k60

[@agenericaccount3935]

I hope so.

[@davect01]

It's great that Sony remembered us APS-C users.

[@snowwalker9999]

Sony to Canon RF-S: "Ketchup!"

[@euiseonchang]

what body was used for the testings?

[@dpreview]

These were tested on the ZV-E10.

[@PopTartHeaven]

I've never understood why people take to the comments to insult the creators of the video.

[@kistovisback]

Give us a new apsc camera dudes

[@张勍杰]

sony needs new apsc camera with 4k 10bit422

[@crashalot63]

DPReview TV - your KZbin channel for camera reviews and advice for better dental health...

[@danieldougan269]

Here's hoping for a Sony a6700 (or whatever number) with IBIS, dual UHS-II / CFExpress Type A card slots, a high-res viewfinder, 4K 60p, and 10-bit 4:2:2. Sony needs to fire back at the Canon R7 and Fuji X-H2S with a true APS-C flagship.

[@Penguins247]

I think that's a given; a camera based around the 26MP stacked CMOS APS-C that appeared in the Fuji X-HS2 can't be far off. That will enable Sony to produce a killer A6600 successor :)

[@Firestorm035]

Hey, parts of this episode look really bad

[@OutingJournal]

Where is My OSS?

[@Vibes2me]

They say the 11mm is good for Landscape

[@ronniesmith1306]

I call bullshit on sony for pricing them 11mm at 548 usd. Rokinon 12mm f2 is way cheaper.

[@dlun]

Hey, part of this episode looks really bad!

[@RealBesty]

Where’s my Jordan..?! ;)

[@falsemcnuggethope]

You put it in your mouth every day before breakfast (Context: it's a toothbrush manufacturer, common at least in some parts of the world. They do provide floss as well.)

[@RealBesty]

@@falsemcnuggethope Context *much* appreciated :D

[@tameshheeralall]

Hey, parts of this episode look really bad...

[@truthseeker6804]

with the new r7 and r10 why should anyone waste money on these sony apsc. sony needs to step up their apsc game.

[@giljesusseraspe9225]

Yay! 😍 ❤️👌

[@Azeemmerchant]

❤️❤️❤️

[@Rocky_KO]

I was expecting a 10mm-18mm f/2.8 OSS lens...

[@hikertrashfilms]

This glass is really needed for APS-C shooters on Sony. The majority of hikers in America who deploy heavy hitters, deploy Sony APS-C. This glass is going to sell like hot cakes to backpackers with APS-C Sony A6600 & A6400. I think this is awesome because it will keep the minnows well fed and let the sharks like me troll with the A1 / 16-35GM & in 2024 the 24GMII F1.2

[@manugeee]

Did you know that parts it this episode look REAAALLLLLLLY bad? 😜

[@supertaufiqr]

Hey this episode looks really bad 🤣

[@EugeneMaynard]

👍🏾🙏🏾

[@ulimuller7892]

c'mon, do something Nikon 🙄

[@kylosalvesen]

hurr durr what a blur

[@perilthecat]

Lol double embargo day

[@Donbros]

Very bad episode parts it is

[@yassinerizzani4600]

First!

[@the_wiki9408]

parts of this video look really bad.

[@sidehustlers336]

Lol. Clogging lenses. When the weakest point in their 6000 series cameras is that wobbly ass video. They need a better apsc body with a better sensor read out speed

[@Harvester88]

Yeah parts of this look really bad 😂

[@larrywhite8590]

It's really bad ;-) LOL ROTFLOL

[@robertsaca3512]

Imagine putting this disclaimer in instead of re-shooting, as any professional who's proud of their output would. It's no wonder so many don't take you seriously, especially when it comes to video. The composition of the opening scene was horrendous and has nothing to do with a defective lens.

[@TMM6900]

Please let me know who does not take them seriously

[@MonicaHolly143]

No one really wants the pz if sony made a 56mm 1.4 instead of the zoom then it will be a great line up for the future apsc

[@truthseeker6804]

i want a pz lens. if you want 56 1.4 go for the sigma.

[@Elgsdyr]

Speak for yourself. You really don't know what everybody else wants.

[@MonicaHolly143]

@@truthseeker6804 pretty sure majority wants a wide zoom that is stabilize not pz Theres a 24 105 that is pz and no one is buying them

[@HolybasilYT]

I already have one of Sony's powerzooms and it's arguably my most used lens.

[@madebyPure]

Just get the Sigma 56mm instead

[@onlyonecannoli3952]

God damn! The images in this video sucked!