Dr.Dre v Ye (Kanye West) Who Is Hip Hop's Greatest Producer | Nas Best Songs Of The 1990s

Join The Crew As We Discuss Who Is Hip Hop's Greatest Producer According 2 You. Is It The Artist Formerly Known As Kanye West? Or Is The Legendary Dr. Dre. We Also Explore 90's Decade Of Nas Illustrious Career. What Are The Top 20 Songs Of That Era Of Escobar?
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[@donovanfelix9497]

Is people forgetting Eminem od and was 2 hours from death? he needed to learn how to rap again.

[@kcone1231]

Defending Diddy isn't a good look

[@SageTrader007]

We give Ron a hard time but I actually agree with a lot of his unpopular takes. "You Gotta Love It" is one of my favorite Nas tracks.

[@SD-vf1er]

I love how people gloss over Jeru and Group Home for Preemo. Those are 3 classics. Preemo also has the PRhyme albums. And when you add up how many bangers he did for KRS, Rakim, Nas, Big, Jay, and ALL the other great MCs it’s almost impossible to not put him at #1. He’s produced for everyone!

[@jamaaldavis7907]

Kane ...rakim....n did a bulk of m.o.p trcks n of course gangstarr...r.i.p. guru

[@SD-vf1er]

@@jamaaldavis7907 yeah, he did more of Firing Squad, First Fam, and Warriorz than Ye did Blueprint.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@SD-vf1eryup...ye dud more for 2 common cds den any 1 Jay z album...ijs

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@SD-vf1er*did**

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@SD-vf1erpremo m.o.p. production on those 3 efforts hardly eva gets mentioned.....m.o.p as a duo 4 whatever reason eva gets their due

[@Shysta30]

Nas inspired everyone to be back outside, the undisputed 🐐.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

💯💯

[@Follow.the.Leader]

Facts

[@seankelly4594]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 nah them albums ain’t move no units

[@Follow.the.Leader]

@@seankelly4594 🤡🤡🤡

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@seankelly4594 thus a steaming world now ..lil hovenger...nas > jayz...🤣🤣

[@SageTrader007]

Nas is only rapper with 4 decades of dope rap songs.

[@Don.M.]

That’s what stands out most. Artists like E40 also has albums in those decades, but the quality isn’t consistent at all. Nas has QUALITY albums, even classics, across four decades.

[@SageTrader007]

So Mike's argument is Eminem is bad because he's trying to rap too well? 🤔

[@nykareem2001]

Rapping and lyrics should serve the song before the ego. Em rapping is complex but doesn't sound good in the context of a song...period

[@SageTrader007]

@@nykareem2001 Kamikaze and MTBMB have some solid songs and lyrics. I doubt you or Mike have actually listened to those albums.

[@andisa9599]

Mike resents Dre for Eminem. How many times have they had this conversation with coop. He tries hard to subtly discredit Dre but just fails to cause an overwhelming majority and also the majority of listers in his own podcast thinks Dre is undeniably great. On a hiphop tip, aunt no way he’s better than Dre, preemo and Rza. If we’re stepping outside of hiphop then we can have that conversation but surely not in hiphop

[@leroygreen6310]

Em like Crooked I like Joell Ortiz, or Canibus, Immortal Tech, Ras Kass and even Wu Tang are not the type of MC's I go to for musicality. I'm listening for BARS. That is all.

[@andisa9599]

But they’re not gonna allow you to say that about wu tang even though to be honest you are right

[@SD-vf1er]

Bilal’s Fast Lane featuring Jada washes anything Ye has lol

[@Sincere-dd4jk]

Eminem copying Nas with the whole "Magic" theme. Smh

[@Follow.the.Leader]

No…vultures is not dope. Smh

[@stillhere6558]

A significant part of bar work is musicality, subject matter and relatability, that’s just common sense. This is why Nas and Pac are the beloved GOATS across generations, ethnicities, countries, social status and so on. If someone is simply looking for lyrical miracle rap, that’s fine, but that’s a very personal preference that everyone doesn’t have to agree with. And it most certainly isn’t indicative of a better understanding of rhyming skills.

[@leroygreen6310]

Anyone questioning if Em is loved or considered great lyrically can Google him and see for themselves. Pac was great but if someone felt like Crooked I has better rhyme skills there's reasons why and people can still say Crooked is wack but those that can hear what he does appreacite it.

[@stillhere6558]

I already stated Em has his fanbase, and it all comes down to personal preference. Have a great day

[@leroygreen6310]

@@stillhere6558 Then it's no need to speak at all specially about boxes Em already checked 20 years ago. Personal preference is the lazy response to all questions in Hip hop.

[@stillhere6558]

Personal preference is the driving force behind what most human beings prefer musically. That’s just a fact irrespective of your irrational opinion on the matter.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@stillhere6558 So those that feel that why shouldn't talk about Hip Hop at all since that is the end all be all to the subject. Those that are intelligent enough to see that no there are facts involved when we're talking about specific lyricists should be able to discuss the art without people that only see the most obvious position which is opinions exist.

[@isaacsello6097]

Mike you concerns about Dr Dre should have been raised from round 1 not now that he is going against Ye

[@geekylove3603]

Dre? Lol. He wouldn't be in my top 10.

[@thefearofg0ds758]

I think Em's vocal change has to do with him getting older. People's voices age differently. Ghostface's voice went through this very weird mutation around 2012(when he made those concept albums with Adrian Younge). The Big Doe Rehab is the last time Ghostface sounded like OLD Ghostface. Eminem has tried to match his older vocal tone on records like Berzerk.

[@stillhere6558]

Voice tone is largely impacted by lifestyle choices. People that do a lot of yelling/loud talking and smoking I notice have haggard voices

[@stillhere6558]

Regarding Em, simply because he has complex rhyme schemes doesn't make his rhymes generally good for that reason. That's giving entirely too much weight to lyrical gymnastics, which mean nothing if the content of the lyrics and rhyming style don't connect with the listener. Em has his fanbase and you don't have to be a musical scholar to understand what he's doing when he raps. For those of us with a keen sense of musicality, we understand instrumentation, arrangements, vocals, lyrical agility, songwriting, engineering, etc. It comes down to personal preference, and for those of us who enjoy soulfulness, relatable lyrics, a certain coolness/effortlessness in rap delivery, and soulful rhythm in production - Em doesn't resonate for the most part. Hopefully his new song is a departure from the EPMD 2 feature that was a horrific lyrical performance on every level.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

He messed up nas song..definitely

[@Follow.the.Leader]

And these fools say he bodied nas with that trash taco shell chia pet verse

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@Follow.the.Leader laughable beyond

[@Follow.the.Leader]

@@jamaaldavis7907 irdk whats wrong with these niggas bro

[@SageTrader007]

If Nas rapped Em's EPMD verse y'all would call it a classic verse.

[@RamonAcosta191]

E-40 has albums in 4 decades too.

[@leroygreen6310]

Extreme Lyricism > rappers with single syllable end rhymes in 2024.

[@richardterungwakombol6406]

Extreme lyricism is cover for not having something insightful or interesting to say.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@richardterungwakombol6406 Not every rapper wants to be Kirk Franklin

[@richardterungwakombol6406]

@leroygreen6310 Not every listener is interested in hearing a quintuple entendre about nothing interesting. Even in a game like chess, the superior players keep things simple. It takes a lot of understanding and depth to make complex ideas look simple. Kirk Franklin is not an example that applies to me. Another proof of the subjective nature of music.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@richardterungwakombol6406 People front like there isn't a whole sector of rap that's purely about battle raps for the sake of running itself. Someone like Em has been rhyming this way for 30 years so now why people expecting to make Dear Mama is ridiculous.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@richardterungwakombol6406 People that don't like extreme lyricism can go listen to a more simple rapper.

[@SageTrader007]

All you so called "hip hop heads" can hate Eminem all y'all want but he still raps better than 99% of rappers. And I don't even have him in my playlist.

[@stillhere6558]

If Em is so great, why don't you have him in your playlist. Right, because you don't like his music. And that's fine, his real fans hold him down by actually consuming his music, unlike you.

[@SageTrader007]

@@stillhere6558 Don't have to be a fan of his music to recognize that he can outrap 99% of rappers. That's objectivity and honesty.

[@stillhere6558]

@@SageTrader007 he can "outrap" 99%, yet you have zero of his songs in your playlist. Sure, whatever you say.

[@adonisadonis5025]

lies

[@Don.M.]

You must be trolling

[@SD-vf1er]

You can’t “throw The Blueprint on there” Mike. You just said you weren’t giving RZA Supreme Clientele. See how you always bullshittin just to make your point. And Daytona is not an album. It isn’t long enough. Look up the definition of an LP/EP and tell me what it falls into. You never address the points that prove you wrong and then just carry on. Let’s have some integrity here.

[@SD-vf1er]

This dude started at Izzo when naming Ye songs… this is why yall can’t trust opinions from the south bruh.