Dr. Elaine Ingham - Soil Foodweb Inc.

Dr. Elaine Ingham from Soil Foodweb Inc. joins us to talk soil heath, her thoughts on Korean natural farming, water quality, and more!
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[@GrdnGnome5]

As an electrician building water treatment facilities, I can only agree to the agresive nature theses chemicals have. Dr Elaine only mentioned 2 chemicals, but now we are installing injection pumps for 5 different chemicals. It gives me a sour taste for my job. Great podcast with lots of useful information. I am planning on taking her online courses

[@notillgrowers]

Yeah, very interesting (also a little frightening). Thank you for listening and for sharing that!

[@sonnymery4193]

what are these 5 chemicals that you mention?

[@xxpowwowbluexx]

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[@pauljolstead2752]

@@xxpowwowbluexx as I was drinking a glass of water from the tap last night I smelled faint chlorination. I immediately thought of Dr. Ingham and what that chlorine does to the soil. Not sure how I have enough space/time/energy to devote to filtering the water through compost.

[@nicholasgrayson7398]

Incredible info. Thank You! Her critique of KNF, her recommendations on how to harvest IMO to properly inoculate aerobic compost piles, and her breakdown of water quality and how to combat chemically treated water were huge takeaways for me. Amazing!

[@BaltimoresBerzerker]

Right on!!! Getting legends on the show!! Thanks to everyone involved!

[@mineaalexndru-ciprian6068]

just awesome was looking forward to hear dr elaine ingham 👏✌👍

[@MedicallyFit]

@45:30 mins Dr. Elaine Ingham talks about KNF....this is a MUST to listen to! Gold Nugget Info

[@redactid]

42:48 it truly starts for those looking for the full knf discussion

[@roberttomsiii3728]

This is why I'm here.

[@garthwunsch]

Thank you for addressing the KNF issue. The opposing views have been troubling me for some time now, and Dr. Ingham has helped clarify many issues.

[@BurgerRatt]

Great inspiring podcast! Thanks!

[@SK-gc7xv]

I can't find any sort of list of cover plants on her website, as she mentions we should look for there.

[@robs9574]

I’ve been hoping for this one. Thank you so much.

[@notillgrowers]

This was honestly one of the great honors to do. Very excited to see what people think

[@andrewhall7826]

I haven't been able to find the list of cover crops Elaine was talking about, anyone know how to find a list?

[@notillgrowers]

Same. I emailed about it, but nothing yet.

[@utahvalleypermaculture208]

doing no till, multi cover crop, mulching, living mulch, inoculating worm tea, farmer to farmer mentoring and research projects on farms in Utah. www.permaculturedesignschool.org

[@KompostLiebe]

Can someone tell a not native english, what u mean with KNF and IMO? What does it stand for? Plsss :)

[@notillgrowers]

KNF is Korean natural farming (or just “natural farming). IMO is a part of KNF. If you look up Chris Trump on KZbin you will find out more info. Also we will talk more about it in season 2 of this podcast!

[@KompostLiebe]

@@notillgrowers thank you sir!

[@ianwynne5483]

A weir for oxygenation to oxidize chemicals and release it to the atmosphere or break it down, my guess anyway.

[@DLynne222]

Well darn. I just spent a bundle on Bokashi equipment, Bokashi Bran to inoculate the composting materials, and on the side, just in case, I also bought a bottle of EM 1 Microbial Inoculant. I sure wish these so-called "expert" people could agree on things.

[@notillgrowers]

Totally agree. It can be frustrating. I mean, none of the agronomists I’ve seen speak or talked to personally ever wholly agree and more so they all seem to emphasize something else. I love and trust Elaine’s work, but I feel ya. This is just the nature of science. I say try a little and see how your plants respond. If it doesn’t seem to benefit them, don’t use it.

[@DLynne222]

@@notillgrowers This is my first time to hear her. But I trust some of the people who have recommended her, and when they say they trust her as an authority then I'm thinking I probably should too. That's how I got here. Thanks for your work.

[@caseG80]

DLynne222 we must take it all in and put things to use how we process things there’s no one way of course she is going to say her way and critique others. Keeping that in mind and an open mind will help find the way that works for the land we are working on.

[@tyee.5023]

On the weir, I believe she is talking about running toxic water through a biological filter. This has been done in water catchment systems as well, where people don't clean their pre filter barrel and let the bio sludge build up on the bottom because it eats toxic material. ---i think that's what she's talking about 😂

[@killowatraibikio2855]

Tea spoon of?

[@Darjan1985]

She says its a very affordable course. It only costs 5k dollars...i mean i need to go to work for months and dont eat or spend anything so i can afford it. I dont know about your definition of affordable, but i surely dont consider this as a low price...i can study anything for at least 2 years on a colledge for that sum...

[@SK-gc7xv]

Seems designed for commercial farmers, not us little guys.

[@inthestyx8726]

I'm a info junky and I just got a fix, thanks!

[@notillgrowers]

Ditto! Thank you for listening

[@svetlanikolova7673]

I live in Bulgara. How do I get the right bacteria by composting ???

[@xxpowwowbluexx]

Svetla Nikolova, the same way as other people around the world.

[@svetlanikolova7673]

@@xxpowwowbluexx ho is that?????

[@flatsville1]

@@svetlanikolova7673 You will have to search KZbin for Dr. Ingham's vids on making compost teas for drenching or injecting. To become proficient, taking one of her classes via Soil Food Web is likley necessary. It seems unless you are farming or market gardening on a scale, the time & expense would be prohibitive.

[@SK-gc7xv]

@@svetlanikolova7673 The most simple way is to start with some rich soil found in an old forest near where you want to use the compost after it's done, then just start adding carbon (leaves, wood chips, cardboard with plastic taken off, regular paper, sawdust, etc) and mix it with some nitrogen-rich things like coffee grounds, plant matter that's still green (with seeds taken out), kitchen scraps (no meat or fat, though), etc. What you do after you build up a large pile (people usually build them in a cube made of pallets, since pallet wood is often free), depends on what sort of system you want to use. Some take longer, but make overall better compost (so-called 'Johnson/Su method'), while others are faster, like Professor Ingham's, which requires you to dig into it and turn it every so often. The main thing is just to start collecting those materials, and read about those faster and slower ways of turning into fertilizer over time.

[@playbytherootz4777]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@roscorude]

Difficulty working with university, Difficulty working with last farm...the feelz I get is it's difficult to work with this woman. She knows what she knows , there probably some things she don't know. The unknown knowns. Thanks for the podcast.

[@istzxca]

or not.

[@t4ntr420]

The military industrial educational complex is strong. I don't doubt for a second that Monsanto very much does not want this info to get out.

[@flatsville1]

Seriuosly, walking away from a University that has bought into a corporate GMO model of growing (likely via donations or sponsorships) is being hard to work with? If you are a scientist doing a trial, & you are cooperating or contracting with a lab (farrm) that is not following your instructions, you can't complete a trial. That is not being hard to work with. That is called being adherent to the scientfic method.

[@roscorude]

@@flatsville1 did you listen to her tales of woe!? Everyone else is a dumbass. Fo and let her defend herself

[@helentc]

Something tells me you are probably harder to work with than she is. I suspect your comment is more about her being a Womyn than anything else.

[@juxtageist]

Its clear Dr Ingham dosent have a firm grasp on KNF when she did this interview. KNF dosent use anaerobic processes. JADAM does but not KNF. Rice balls arent tossed around the forests....SMH.

[@Mr71paul71]

We have been tilling digging land for the entire history of human farming !!!! Why because it works..... End of debate in digging. Now today where the damage is coming from is the lack of organic matter in the soil, due to farmers no longer adding like we have for the last 6000 years or so. So dig til etc all you want, history shows it works and works well. BUT you must add sufficient organic matter every year or your soil dies. Its pretty simple folks

[@mvnaturalfarming2334]

She should look more into into natural farming before bashing it, had me facepalming the whole time. Huge fan of her work, but anyone who has spent a good amount of time actually researching KNF can easily counter each and every one of her points. Talk to me when you get a 4000:1fungal to bacterial ratio with any other method (actual micro-counting test results from a dormant IMO 4 sample) . It’s about diversity and balance. Better yet, talk to me when you get even 2000:1 ratio by simply just composting and building soil. And yes, rice is a simple compound, high in plant fats for such an available carbohydrate, perfect for fungal spores that end up falling in when you place large diameter fungal hyphae and mycelium over the collection, which is an instructed part of the process. Also, the idea is to use 5+ good IMO collections when making IMO3, or even more, maximizing fungal diversity, and promoting balance. I wish someone would just water her garden with some liquid IMO and spray some maintenance solution for a couple weeks so she can see the results..... Again big fan of her work, she is a pioneer when it comes to living soil. I just wish she would give it more of a chance beyond “rice” and enzyme rich FPJs that she calls “anaerobic teas”. Can’t help but facepalm a little bit.... Great interview beyond that, keep it up and keep spreading that knowledge!

[@notillgrowers]

Did you hear the Chris trump interview from this season? He addresses some of this and says she has come around (though i have not confirmed that with her).

[@mvnaturalfarming2334]

No-Till Growers I did yes, thoroughly enjoyed that interview, this one too until the KNF part lol, I don’t want to seem like bashing the video as a whole, I love your interview style, you really let them complete a thought before throwing another question at them. I’m glad to hear she’s come around a bit if that’s true too. I feel like her ideology goes hand in hand with the end goals of KNF, just not the practice as much. If she spent some time going down that rabbit hole I feel like she’d really enjoy it. Just my thoughts though. Keep doing your thing man I’m loving these interviews regardless👍

[@Humus_Farms]

@@notillgrowers I couldn't find that interview, can anyone tell where can I find that video.

[@Humus_Farms]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIK9nGqqodWBbsk, Chris trump interview

[@Cam_two]

A big difference between KNF and Inghams method is KNF is free and accessible to learn (for the good of all farmers) and Ingham wants all your monies 🤑🤣 ... But if her price is too high for you, don't worry, she keeps slashing the price every month/year.

[@pauljolstead2752]

The ads are annoying. I know they are a necessary evil but they are too frequent and distract from the discussion. This is complex stuff and I hate that the ads disrupt mid sentence.

[@notillgrowers]

Hey Paul! Thanks for letting us know. Last year KZbin randomly filled our videos/podcasts with ads every three minutes. I’ve tried to take them out of all of the videos. Let me know if you run into this again on any of our content (I think it happened to other creators as well). Thanks and apologies