Dr Iain McGilchrist and Mark Tyrrell Discuss the Coronavirus Situation

[@matthewbowes2776]

The sad thing about this conversation is how quickly it has dated. While I agree that the community spirit which originally arose in the wake of the first lockdown was heartening and encouraging, as the Covid-19 'crisis' has continued IMO if ever there was an example of the map not being the territory and there being a distorted reality driven by left brain reductionism in response to a media and political fear narrative, we are living that now. I would be very interested to see Dr McGilchrist and Mark Tyrrell engage in conversation on this same subject 6 months down the line.

[@account1307]

I agree, they should have another conversation.

[@Biophotogenesis]

Or even Further... Like today

[@Biophotogenesis]

Unfortunately Truth is not a popular topic of discussion in today's political fantasy-land. Certainly not something anyone with any sort of formal reputation could risk doing.

[@peterdixon7734]

@@Biophotogenesis That is true.

[@alkibiadespapaparaskevopou8278]

Υou were very right a year ago. two years on, and hope went down the drain.

[@tracik1277]

It is very strange listening to this a year later. Within the first 10 minutes they talk about community and crisis bringing out the best in people and there was a kind of expectation that it would pass. A year later and we are more divided than ever, neighbours at each other’s throats, the rich richer than ever and the poor poorer, governments a joke and taking financial advantage. The whole thing is one huge mess and the world has gone crazy. I don’t see a way back, and I’ve no idea where we are going.

[@biniwi777]

Same feeling here in Germany. And I am really interesting in a follow up talk, to hear what we can do from now.

[@thelma2084]

@@biniwi777@tracik1277 what do you guys think now

[@eternaldragonwood]

I would rather watch this- A conversation between two decent people - Rather than TV

[@mpcc2022]

You're not alone!

[@dreamzofhorses]

That’s why we are here!

[@angelozachos8777]

This conversation aged poorly . I’m astounded how few of our greatest minds were unable ( unwilling ? ) to see this contrived pandemic “crisis” for the technocratic psy-op it most certainly is😔

[@jamesboswell9324]

Well, first you have to acknowledge as Jeffrey Sachs now does as Chairman of the Lancet committee that covid was a bioweapon. So in this instance, Gaia very nearly certainly had nothing at all to do with any of it.

[@alazyartist]

I absolutely loved this conversation. Please do more of these!!

[@guslinton]

Regarding the tendency to forget about pain once it's gone, I am reminded that the Arabic words for "human" and "forget" come from the same root. In Islam our original sin is not disobedience, but rather forgetfulness. Thank you, Iain, for helping us remember where we come from.

[@dionysis_]

Gus Linton could you share the words? Thanks 🙂

[@guslinton]

@@dionysis_ 'Nansaa' (forget) and 'insan' (human) are from the same root: n-s-a

[@dionysis_]

Gus Linton thank you 🙂 I’ve been studying the Qur’an and would love to know the multiple meanings of the trilateral roots. Are you maybe aware of a book that offers this kind of information in parallel with the text of the Qur’an?

[@guslinton]

@@dionysis_ If you want to hear an excellent speaker on Islam and the Quran, one who grew up in the U.S, I highly recommend any talk by Hamza Yusuf.

[@dionysis_]

Gus Linton thanks 🙏

[@bookchaser1103]

Yep, Iain has become a hero of mine. First heard about him through Philip Pullman. I want a discussion between the two of them!

[@ColinDStone]

Excellent information - lots of ideas to share with clients who are trying to left-brain it through this crisis. Thanks Mark and Dr McGilchrist!

[@cheri238]

I appreciate them also, and all that join in these conversations. 🙏❤️🌏🕊🎶 This is now August 2, 2023, when I am listening to this one. We now have another addition to the Covid strain.

[@Aprilforevergreen]

A year on and an update on the Covid situation would be interesting .....

[@angelozachos8777]

Yes agreed 👍 This conversation has aged quite poorly

[@adrianfranco1028]

Its now August 29th 2020 and it turns out the whole thing was a hoax. Hmm.

[@realitycheck4086]

I listened to Dr Bartlett’s message more than a dozen years ago - nothing has changed in the interim and very few have taken notice of the exponential function. (He died a few years ago and was a much loved lecturer)

[@MourningTalkShow]

How does one get "Thinker" placed in their title. Can I apply for that online? Dr. McGilchrist definitely deserves that if anyone does.

[@guslinton]

McGilchrist is not just a great thinker, he also has the ability to share his thoughts in such a way as to increase the understanding of those who listen.

[@MourningTalkShow]

@@guslinton Yes. I think the real thing is that he truly cares about people. Yes he's brilliant, but the care is the reason he has taken time to develop this illuminating skill.

[@kristianhoiland1147]

I wonder what Iain think of Carl Jungs and Mattias Desmets idea of psychic epidemic/mass formation.

[@kateoneal4215]

I'd love to hear a follow up on this now.

[@consciousexplorer8118]

Dr McGilchrist, I agree and applaud so much of what you express here. However, I observe that you see this crisis as a fait-accomplis. This crisis is unfolding on a daily basis and the scale of its impact on us may be greatly determined by the those in authority. The environmentalists have interpreted this crisis as an environmental wake-up call, spiritual and community leaders see this as a way on refocusing our interconnectedness and cooperation. Although looking at the silver linings and what we can learn from a situation is a must, in this crisis I wonder whether we need to take a more active and aware role in shaping the outcome. How we do this in my opinion is the question.

[@alazyartist]

Conscious Explorer I believe he laid out a potential route. Bringing our attention to the local and community level while maintaining the individual strive that is brought with capitalism. A large shift in the way of thinking is needed to take place in the individual so that it can cascade outward to the greater community. Right now I believe we have these people remaining in power not only because they hold their power but because many individuals on the outside believe that the actions of “authority” are acting in their best interest. Once people experience something different in a tangible way it will allow that change to take place. From my perspective of course.

[@tracik1277]

Gosh that was insightful. What are you thinking now you have seen it unfold as you predicted?

[@lb6651]

When does it stop then ?

[@JackPassmore]

Catching your interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump turned me onto the fact that you have your own YT channel! Awesome!

[@user-lu9hq6jv4v]

Good bless Ian's, daughter's great service!

[@joykinder4112]

Having studied the works of Dr McGilchrist, within a graduate neuropsychotherapy course, I was interested to view this conversation which I experienced as thought provoking. Coming from Christchurch N.Z, where we are still recovering from the affects of an earthquake and a terrorist attack, within my psychotherapy practice during this time-frame, I have noted an increase in client resilience likely substantiating that "it takes a crisis to make shifts." Of interest, my observation predates the tragic events in that my trauma related clients, who I predicted would be the most affected, were more frequently the ones who supported their loved ones - "a rehearsal of what may come?" I agree that maintaining a balance/harmony between a global and local community both from a psychological and a physical perspective is indeed grounding. In this sense my clients grasp the concept of a macro and micro level and are encouraged to focus on the latter during these uncertain times. Thank you Mark for this interest conversation!

[@1965simonfellows]

..you know Terry Marks-Tarlow ? Try her on for size if not.Good luck, good health

[@dreamzofhorses]

Balance requires openness to others, communication, consensus, difficult if not impossible when a society is so divided and people in power (politicians, media, religious etc) exploit divisiveness for their own gain. You would think a worldwide pandemic would bring the world together, all of us against a common enemy. Besides a left hemispheric lobotomy, what else can we do? Music and food seem to be postures unifying forces. What else can we come up with especially from us, the common people? Our survival ultimately will depend on this answer.

[@marielloyd8594]

Iain McGilchrist sounds very much like my late Zen master: for example, on silence; on waste of anything. Even his story of the man who lost his horse. Truly, Who Knows?

[@mrnobodyz]

“For it is the doom of men that they forget.”

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

It’s the thinking and acting from the spheres that matters wrong in wrong out

[@jglammi]

Singapore also has a great deal of prior exposure to this kind of virus...

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

There’s those that open up in crisis and those that close up and withdraw

[@lb6651]

Whats individual behavior?

[@kimfreeborn]

On the other hand, our atomistic individualism does have its benefit as far as keeping the population down. We have been on a carbon reduction trajectory since the industrial revolution moving from coal to oil to gas to atomic power to solar and wind. The state of fear that we are being driven to is unbeneficial. There will always be trade-offs with any solution we pick. Best to use the solutions which have the least negative ramifications. These are rarely the most obvious.

[@TigerCarpenter]

English is not my mother tongue. but let me put it right in simple words: FLUFF is this the right word? or should I say COWARDS?

[@lb6651]

Thers lots of land ere but were are we ? Im from uk britain myself were are you from ? In uk ? This or that ?

[@lb6651]

Thanks nhs i do thank nhs but its just so weird how it all is there seems a seperate nhs brand art rather than the realy good working people drs ect.

[@mingonmongo1]

Aka, "Think Globally, Act Locally".

[@thepielife]

omg omg omg u made a youtube thank u

[@peterdixon7734]

The insanity has grown since that time.

[@lb6651]

Interferance is problem dont fix what aint broken because broken will fix screw you.

[@lb6651]

Compassionate people are real but jealous cold segregateing types are qite nasty types but its insecurity clustering gossiping.

[@PhoenixProdLLC]

Nah.

[@mandyshanks2327]

I wish he everyone knew what he says.

[@lb6651]

Like right wing anger tentions from small bussiness lost ect n mental degradation just like pre war germany but im not worry im sure you angry mob will fight has standing outspoken advanced people were is everyone ? Washing kirtons ?

[@lb6651]

Jesus c you mean america parking ticket worth 5 minits over elledgedly.

[@knockda887]

✝️🐟☯️🐉