Dr. Jonathan Grayson on OCD, the role of uncertainty in OCD, and his approach to treatment

On this episode of Sanity, Dr. Jason Duncan and Dr. Jonathan Grayson dive into OCD, defining and differentiating it from other mental disorders and “normal” behavior. They discuss the core features of the disorder, which are obsessions and compulsions, and provide multiple examples of how obsessions and compulsions might look in a clinical setting. Dr. Grayson introduces the topic of uncertainty and how it is the core of the problem for those living with OCD due to its contribution to avoidance and behaviors interfering with quality of life. Interestingly, once individuals learn to live with uncertainty as part of OCD treatment, they are actually more tolerant of it than those in the general public. They review treatment for OCD, including exposure and response prevention, and Dr. Grayson identifies common pitfalls with diagnosing and treating OCD, such as the end goal not including tolerance of uncertainty. Numerous client examples are provided along with rationales for Dr. Grayson’s treatment approach for specific obsessions or compulsions.
Resources:
Grayson Center
laocdtreatment.com/
Book - Freedom from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
www.amazon.com/Freedom-Obsess...
Book - Is Fred in the Refrigerator
www.amazon.com/Fred-Refrigera...
Book - Everyday Mindfulness for OCD by Jon Hershfield and Shala Nicely, with foreword by Alec Pollard
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06...
Other books by Jon Hershfield
www.amazon.com/Jon-Hershfield...
Podcast - The OCD Stories
theocdstories.com/
International OCD Foundation
iocdf.org/

[@ramyaroxane5945]

One of the very few people who talks with so much understanding 😊 I hope more therapists get this kind of understanding. Listening to him is GOLD

[@3cheeseup]

I cannot explain with words how much I appreciate his contribution to the OCD community. Read his book and I’m trying to accept uncertainty every day 💪

[@rahulgodara5485]

Hey man, what a pleasant podcast! after about 17-18 years of OCD, i found Dr. Graysons book online, ordered it here in India, and it was the best discovery ever on this disease and problem. It was so good to see the man himself, speaking in such a strong and yet comforting way to help with this malady. The host man, thanks for your kind approach as an interviewer. A very good listener you were:) Warm regards to you and Dr.Grayson from Malout, North India

[@afreensheikh6038]

Well thought out questions. Thank you for this.

[@timothyvater134]

Learning about ERP saved my life. Thank you, Dr. Grayson.

[@peematt]

Dr. Grayson is very smart and funny. Thank you for the interview, which is very helpful.

[@kaanaydemi.r]

Wow, super profound; great insights! Great podcast, thank you so much.

[@sobialaghari225]

Amazing podcast!

[@Hinarushi]

Amazing interview! I've learned so much. Now I have some good OCD resources that I can further read and listen to. Many thanks!

[@richgilmour817]

Very good, thank you

[@Alritealritealrite]

This was really interesting.

[@lynnritchie231]

Maybe it's the wine talking, but this guy is brilliant.

[@bengrant1201]

I feel even worse after watching this despite desperately wanting to feel better.

[@nimrahh8836]

How to deal with ocd and loved ones loss??

[@mstie3252]

I hope you have gotten some support. I'm dealing with a major life changing crisis, and it makes it so hard to handle my OCD thoughts because the rare, scary things seem so much more likely to happen right now.

[@paustovskijf9487]

Mr Grayson tells the story about Britney at the end and it made me cry. And the interviewer only says OKEY? Is he only thinking about his own questins and not actually being present in the conversaiton?

[@lynnritchie231]

It was a very touching story. ❤

[@3cheeseup]

I cried too. But why do other people have to do the same? Let them cry whenever they want.

[@vanessam.v2779]

somebody vaccumming at 9:30?