Dr Who: A Culture War Casualty

[@harryhutcherson7177]

We don't have actors today. What we have are a bunch of narcissists who play themselves with a different name and outfit.

[@tagir9123]

And any and all of them fail upwards

[@LogosFlow]

That's what's been monetized

[@aurawolf2221]

97% agree, there's still a few good actual actors out there (until they say something stupid)

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

basically, narcissists under the flag of actor.

[@argorath]

lmao imagine saying this under a video about doctor who the vast majority of the classic doctors were just playing themselves, Tom Baker most notably

[@sneeringimperialist6667]

Davros was never disabled. He was a 2 million year old mummy on technological life support! Writers that can't tell the difference should lose their jobs.

[@mechakraken]

A yes when sumones get blown up and put on life support they aren't disabled.

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

​@@mechakrakenNo they're a vegetable. people on life support aren't riding around in wheelchairs .

[@mechakraken]

@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852Oxford dictionary definition. "a piece of equipment that keeps somebody alive when they are extremely ill and cannot breathe without help" By definition you are wrong. You can be conscious while using one and As long as the life support system is small enough you can take it on a motorised wheel chair. Not to mention his is probably 1000s of years more advanced than we have.

[@stephenthorpe3591]

So, they think that if you are disabled, you can't also be evil! If Davros had red hair, would that associate being evil with being Ginger? Oh we'll just make Davros an able-bodied middle aged heterosexual white guy, they are all evil, aren't they??

[@Dat_Jonx]

Davros sacrificed his body for his "children". He's not disabled, he did it to himself willingly.

[@SilverGroveCult]

If it’s about representation I want an Asian doctor, we represent 60% of the world’s population after all.

[@tooleyheadbang4239]

I have an Asian doctor.

[@marktracy1721]

Yeah Hollywood?? Seem to think there's two races White and Black That's so not true

[@sasuke22dante]

@@tooleyheadbang4239 Doctor Hu

[@Tyro_]

@@sasuke22dantelmfao nice 😂

[@joywagner979]

I feel like the First Female Doctor and the current doctor could have been avoided if they had just been able to cast Margaret Cho and let her write all her own lines. Then she'd regenerate after one season, collect her bag, and leave. Not just an Asian -- a Gaysian and a woman too. Boxes: checked. Bar: set. Two cringe doctors: never happened.

[@kingclover1395]

Since I'm gay myself, I could never figure out what it is that turns me off so much about actors like him and their identity politics and even the whole diversity and inclusion thing. I think the thing I hate is their self-congratulation and self-glorification. And the way that they denigrate everybody else with their condescending lectures in order to make themselves look heroic. And they don't seem to realize or care that this is the reason that people dislike them. It's their attitude of moral superiority .

[@OneofInfinity.]

I have no doubt since it all started that it is reverse psy, pushing it to incite hate, same happening with more current events, divide and... tactics. Their narcissism makes them blind to the damage they are causing to themselves.

[@OneofInfinity.]

I hope u can still read what I replied, I can't.

The trouble with politicizing Homosexuality is that you can disagree with a notion in politics so we either end up with Homosexuality you can disagree with or enforced homosexuality and an abandonment of our political values.Either way its bad for Gay people and straight alike.

[@NoahGooder]

One big reason as someone else who is also part of the G is that it feels inauthentic

[@janesgems7]

My gay cousin, and his black, gay friend....HATE this.

[@rallan1953]

Note that the British Prime Minister, Scottish First Minister and Welsh First Minister are all unelected.

[@Amcor09]

The PM is never elected by the public. In a general election the public votes for their local MP.

[@MediumRareOpinions]

All of them pushing the boundaries of tolerance and increasing attraction to populist nationalists. For better or worse in the long run.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Totally normal democratic phenomenon

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

The _a l i e n s_ we had to worry about were never the Slitheen!

[@frogscotch19]

elected by the WEF and UN

[@blatherskite3009]

The real irony of what's happened to shows like Doctor Who is that the shows that have been harmed the most by the "woke" movement are the shows that were already "progressive" but knew to keep it as subtext. What seems unforgivable to the woke crowd isn't shows that were antithetical to their beliefs, but shows that were already "progressive" and just didn't go far enough for their liking.

[@sidvanhound]

They hate you, you walk away, they hate you more because you walked away.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

Who tf hates him? Also u idiots don't watch the show

[@DJ-LD]

Thanks for describing this guy. It fits nerdotic and bowlstreak too. Nce. Them hating on doctor who anyway

[@kingemerald4622]

​@@DJ-LD I feel like video essays have just died and turned into whatever this video is

[@WhiteDragon689]

He needs to just go away.

[@damionkeeling3103]

Makes me want to return just to walk away again.

[@kenstrumpf909]

They don’t actually care if the “modern audience” shows up or not. They just want to destroy what the rest of us once enjoyed.

[@sianais]

If it was about representation or equality, their would be a push like in the past when people made their own shows. Their would be a push for more unique stories with "diverse" casts. But it's been 90% rewrites, remakes, and subversion. They steal an IP, tell you they hate everything about it, then show you they hate everything about it, and you're supposed to clap because it's now "diverse." I'm black. I grew up watching shows with everything under the sun. I went from watching stuff freely to now being wary when something seems "diverse." The worst part is, is when the wariness is proven right.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

Show proof they want to destroy things

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

​@@sianaisstfu. Also u aren't black. Ppl done that countless times and u iditos still complain about it

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

True. They just see us having nice things and saying 'Nope! You're not allowed to have nice things!'

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Activists aren't happy. That's the reason that they *become* activists. Since misery loves company, they want to ruin everything that you enjoy.

[@lasercraft32]

Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor, and nobody can convince me otherwise. I have no problem with the Doctor being a woman, or the Doctor being black... Except that when they did that they stopped being "the Doctor," because suddenly those were their defining traits. Not the Doctor's cleverness, otherworldly intelligence, kindness, and compassion. Every regeneration has their own unique personality, but they all had that spark that makes the Doctor who they are. And that spark is just missing from these new Doctors. They don't care about writing Doctor Who, they care about preaching a message.

[@cherryfireice8216]

There's a reason across the pond Hollywood is going down like the Titanic.

[@Cringeharvester]

One of the only well argued comments that isn't just plain discriminatory. Not the actors fault the writers fault

[@yuvrajsingh15823]

Dr Moon was a good example.

[@bendream544]

I bet you in real life Ncuti Gatwa hasn't seen an entire episode of either classic Doctor Who or the new Classic Doctor Who. I think RTD has just given him the basics and shown him a few of his own past episodes of course, but I don't think he'd be able to keep his gob shut through an entire episode, and it shows because he says "I'm the Doctor" in a way that implies nobody else has ever played him/her before. Like it's all about him and not the character. And that's why the 13-14 minutes I tried to watch, of The Church On Ruby Road, but when they started with the pantomime song, that was me, finished. And before I get bombarded with comments accusing me of this or that, I genuinely thought that this might be an upturn in Dr Who's fortunes, but then Disney got involved and that was that, hopes dashed. I mean I don't mind a little bit of inclusion here and there. But to ram it down your throat at every turn. There isn't enough time for any story that had any meaning except for the obvious....which I just said there's too much of.

[@PauloHenrique-jn9nh]

fax, and i am just sad, i loved this show

[@benpeters-brown5317]

I got off doctor who towards the end of capaldi. Boy what a blessing that turned out to be

[@indiajohnson]

It was the 2015 Christmas special with me. I just got bored with Modern Who, I still go back and watch the Classics repeatedly though.

[@Grimmlocked]

Heaven sent and hell bent are a great ending to the show (with the wedding of river song as a fine addendum)

[@indiajohnson]

@@Grimmlocked I'm still of the opinion that Modern Who had at least three chances to end, 1) around the 50th anniversary/2013 Christmas special, 2) 2015 Christmas special, & 3) 2017 Christmas special from what I understand but they had to just keep going.

[@madmorgo6233]

Start of Matt Smith for me. 😅 I used to love the old black n white reruns when I was a lad...

[@journeyman2682]

I saw a few Capaldi episodes and thought he was great in the role, but poorly served by the writers. I'd already lost interest but did catch the first Jodie Whittaker episode at a friend's house and I just felt embarrassed for all concerned. Doctor Cringe.

[@toxictony4230]

Russell T Davis was on Breakfast TV here in the UK, and he goes, 'It's 61 years old, but the last 61 years don't matter...' So yes, here we are. What has gone before is irrelivant. Just forget about it. The sad, sad reality of our times. sigh

[@gameover9390]

Did he actually said that?

[@toxictony4230]

@@gameover9390 He really did. I simply couldn't believe my ears. I watch the clip again on iPlayer to see if I'd mis-heard him, but no. A complete disregard of the past, the canon, of everything.

[@gameover9390]

@@toxictony4230 I think I’m going to need a minute or two just to process that.

[@Nebula.Dragon]

I think you guys might be misinterpreting that. Just before then, he says that the show keeps moving on and evolving, and earlier he talks about how any new viewer doesn't need to know anything about past lore to jump in. I don't take that to mean that past lore is irrelevant (the specials had loads of callbacks), but rather that they're not shackled by it and are focusing on the new, which is something the writers have always been doing. DW lore is massively contradictory, don't forget. There are two origin stories for the Daleks, the Doctor is given different numbers of regenerations, used to have one heart, is stated to be half-human in the 1996 movie and yet also the timeless child. When he says it "doesn't matter", it means that the writers can focus on making interesting stories without worrying about the wiki, and that sort of fresh start is what RTD did back in 2005 anyway. Thinking he meant "just forget about the past" is reading in malintent that's not there imo.

[@tubetorpedo]

​@@Nebula.Dragon _"the writers can focus on making interesting stories without worrying about the wiki, and that sort of fresh start is what RTD did back in 2005 anyway."_ And good writers are actually able to write stuff that dances with the old while respecting it, instead of trying to rewrite it. Or was something like Timeless Children something that was especially needed or that interesting to rewrite origin of the Doctor? I remember there was plenty of interesting stories e.g. for Eccleston, Tennant and Smith which did not try to rewrite the lore still being highly praised both by critics and audiences. How did they ever manage to do that? Or was it before they tried injecting modern day politics in to everything. Based on user ratings and viewing figures episodes like Timeless Children which many seem to disdain did not seem to hit very high marks. Compared to The Waters of Mars, Midnight or e.g. Blink. To say you need to constantly rewrite the old to be able to write interesting stories that would tell quite a lot about about you as a writer, words like unimaginative and self centered come to mind. In a world like doctor Who there is little obstacles to actually create something wholly new and creative only limit being budget - how to actually practically portray something totally imaginary while staying within limited budget. Example from another world is Don Rosa, an former Disney artist who loved Carl Barks stories and practically wrote most of his most popular and refered stuff basing and leaning on Barks stories and references. Rosa among Barks is on the most loved Duck/McDuck storytellers. Somehow Rosa managed to create lot's of great and interesting stories while worrying about the lore and characters Barks had created mostly feeling sorry if he had to do some minor changes or retcons. Funny how all that works.

[@princeeverlove]

David Tennant knew very well how much the Fans loved DR. WHO and his 10th Doctor...and for a load of cash betrayed us all...no longer my Doctor

[@joso7228]

so did you enjoy the kiss in Good Omens? Childrens TV?!

[@princeeverlove]

@@joso7228 hahaaaà😸🐾

[@Shineinpoverty]

I cant say im angry at him. After all, they live in one very solid bubble. You step out, they will never let you in, slowly poisoning your life, calling people who would dare to hire you and tell them you are a hater. This is a mindhive, virus that is very hard to treat. You have to be really brave to go against them. And indeed, very few did.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

His wife decided that their boy is "gender diverse" or something and he is completely on board. He drank the kool-aid. He's lost.

[@akodaah13-e32]

For me the doctor died in the space ship in The Doctor Falls. He died where he stood, fighting just because it was right. He died as the best possible version of himself. Not guilt ridden and angry like the 9th, not like 10th's god complex or with the need to just save everyone like the 11th. He died fighting just because it was right and kind and thats what he swore to die for: kindness. I will never accept this defiling to the corpse of such a great man as canon.

[@johnkennedy5528]

I have not heard a more compassionate and succinct appreciation than this - and that is set against so many others posted here. I used to help my son make DW videos when the camera was the size and weight of a wardrobe. He, and I, once, totally immersed in the unlimited creativity and capacity of the myriad multiverse DW could conjure on a peanuts budget. Now it’s DEI preening drivel. Kids need to be behind the sofa safely frightened again. What about the Weeping Angels returning as a metaphorical construct of the evils of pernicious Social Media? And a Doctor with some authority. End of hissy-fit. Regards all . John K. And yes, I vividly remember that day when JFK was murdered. 🦖

[@worthybutter2004]

That...was beautiful, man. Made me tear up!

[@AJadedLizard]

Capaldi was *so* good. I didn't care for Smith, and I hated Clara, but other than her 12 would be my favorite Doctor.

[@elgatochurro]

I enjoyed the first season, what seaons would you reccomend a new comer?

[@akodaah13-e32]

@@elgatochurro from the new era, basically all the doctors (except the 13th). Trust me, you will love it

[@nalublackwater9729]

The Red Nose Day special with Rowan Atkinson was supposed to be a parody, yet it has more charm and love for the original than any Doctor Who series since Capaldi's run.

[@andersart1001]

"Love for the original" You make me laugh XD XD XD

[@Trazynn]

Torchwood was wildly popular and every lead character has had some romantic scene with both men and women at any point in the show. The Doctor Who universe never had anything to prove, the fans are not bigots that need to be lectured to. And yet they did it anyway.

[@TotemoGaijin]

Even before that when they introduced Jack, he was pretty well accepted, not because of any orientation, but because he was just a really charming character.

[@runoke]

The fans aren't their target audience. The kids are. This is upbringing. Genuine brainwashing.

[@donatist59]

I miss the show when it had Jack Harkness and Martha Jones. You know, back when it was all homophobic and racist!

[@shara1979]

Exactly. It was tactful, respectful, tasteful, & subtle, not in your face. What the hell are they thinking!? They've destroyed the show. I've been a fan for 30 years, and I have not watched the last 2 seasons. Caught afew episodes, & immediately turned it off, & never looked back. I can't connect with any of the characters, the plots r stupid, it's a mess. They lost me as a fan. I'll watch the old episodes, but I have absolutely no interest in watching these new Dr who seasons.

[@AVerySillySausage]

@@runoke I mean when you get down to it, is that so much a bad thing? Kids are like sponges and will influenced by whatever they consume. Having a generation of kids growing up believing in confusion and diversity is only a positive. And if you have a problem with that in itself then they are right to call you toxic. It's not up to parents whether they want to teach kids to be close minded, that attitude should be a thing of the past. The show is not for the fans anymore, it's not even for anyone that already shares the values it's trying to push. It's just positive propaganda for children, otherwise unwatchable. It's not that big a deal, Dr Who was always just a goofy show.

[@Worm.In.Waiting]

So the 12th doctor truly was the last doctor.

[@DAZzler3K]

So, basically, Matt Smith...

[@egg2520]

​@@DAZzler3K That's 11th

[@picard714]

Pretty much

[@DAZzler3K]

@@egg2520 You forgot to include John Hurt as the _War Doctor_ which they have to shoehorn in after Paul McGann (# 8) because Eccleston refused to return for the 50th Anniversary. That makes the _War Doctor_ # 9, Eccleston #10, Tennant # 11 and Matt Smith the 12th and final incarnation of the Doctor. And there they should've stopped...

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@DAZzler3K I would have liked if Trenzalore was the actual end. Like the Time Lords decide to make the Doctor young but that's it, so he decides to retire in peace.

[@MillywiggZ]

I can guarantee no Welsh, English, Northern Irish or any other British culture will be reflected in this costume that includes a screwdriver and rings with a Rwandan proverb on them. Besides the kilt… I mean skirt.

[@DrWarbird]

It's not a kilt without a sporran (the purse like thing on the front). So he's just wearing a dress.

[@edwardreed67]

You do realise he wears a bunch of costumes throughout the series

[@DrWarbird]

@@edwardreed67 You do realize they are doing social engineering on the masses not entertainment, right?

[@edwardreed67]

@@DrWarbird What the fuck does that have to do with costumes?

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@edwardreed67 The costume only really changes with the actor. The Doctor has always had a certain style going on, with changes usually being smaller when we're talking the same regeneration. For example: The 2nd Doctor always wore ill fitting clothes and a crooked bowtie. If you look closely sometimes his pants had a different pattern. The 3rd Doctor always wore a smoking jacket even if it was a different color, same with his cloak. The 4th Doctor always wore a long scarf, even if it wasn't always the same colour. The 5th Doctor's shirt sometimes had red or green on the inside of the collar, and his pants occasionally changed colour ever so slightly, but it was still the same outfit. The 6th Doctor was obviously a mess but somehow still pretty consistent considering the colourful theme around it. The 7th Doctor always had his panama hat on, even with the movie outfit, which was the least similar to his original one. The 8th Doctor's outfit was still a green coat and waistcoat underneath, as seen in his first and last appearance, even if the clothes themselves were different, so he was still recognizable. The 9th Doctor had the least change, only changing his jumper. The 10th Doctor had 2 whole suits, but both fitting the same design. He still had his coat to tie them together. The 11th Doctor always had his bowtie, even if ditched the tweed jacket for his purple coat, the green coat acting as a bit of a transit outfit. The 12th Doctor had that mess at the end where they put the hoodie together with the shirt and waistcoat, but otherwise his outfit was pretty solid and didn't change much, his most recognizable feature being the fact he wore his shirt completely done up, his three coats being the same design even if differing in terms of color and material. The 13th Doctor was ironically pretty stable, but her outfit was a hot mess. Not like 6, but still. The 14th Doctor was meh and he didn't even change his outfit at all. I think you get my point.

[@Melissa.Garrett]

Beautifully put. I recently watched several compilation videos of previous doctors that showcased his moments of anger, his absent-mindedness and social awkwardness, and I immediately thought “Ncuti Gatwa doesn’t have any of that. In fact, he looks like he came straight from Club Med.” And that, my friends, is just not the Doctor.

[@couldnotbereachedforfurthe2647]

It's amazing how many activists claim to have found solace in worlds like Doctor Who (as it was) then want to completely obliterate it, then remake it to suit to their current ideals.

[@xyaeiounn]

The whole LGBTQIA+ thing had to fight lethal, literally lethal forces to exist. The battles won have left a generation with less to fight for or about, which is their aim. Queer writers in Sydney, Australia wrote in the early 90s how tolerance and acceptance ruined their ability to shock the middle classes and subvert expectations. So people who grew up loving something like Star Wars or whatever now feel compelled to reimagine it in an activist way, but it falls flat, because our values-free shopping mall doesn't give a shit about your sexuality or anything at all.

[@cherryfireice8216]

Well compelling people doesn't work. Hollywood box office is crying this year. I'll never watch this twaddle or any of the other messaging.

[@elgatochurro]

reveals how they treat children... forcing the child to be what they want and not who itll become

[@xyaeiounn]

@@elgatochurro i saw a whole page of weird posts complaining that a royal baby had been born but all the posts were upset at the baby's status as boy or girl being announced before it could work it out. What you just wrote could be interpreted two opposing ways.

[@elgatochurro]

@@xyaeiounn Im talking about the lengths these people go to to enforce their views of the world onto their children and anyone else. but with kids? the kids dont have much of a choice compared to a friend.

[@blueplanet9917]

A 50 year old science fiction TV classic ruined. Irreparably.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

Stupid. It is over 60 years. Also it isn't ruined

[@flyhyland]

@@kuggacouragegx6093 It is ruined and don't be so rude. Everything wrong with society.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

@@flyhyland stupid it isn't ruined. Yall are reaching cause yall weren't even fans,also don't tell me not to be rude yet u idiots are just being racist and homophobic clowns and wish death for the show and wishing harm in the actor just cause he is black

[@jadjason6053]

@@kuggacouragegx6093Exactly. I want more twerking gay black men in my british science fiction show!

[@hope-cat4894]

It's been canceled before (and even lost some episodes forever) so it can be saved and rebuilt again.

[@Horse_In_A_Bookcase]

“Destroy a monster with twerking” is the best was to sum up what’s been coming out of Hollywood

[@guyfaux900]

Nice visual poem. But I would add flatulence to the twerking.

[@bazzzzz6175]

Same old adage... Doctor Who used to be for everyone. Now, it's for the mentally infirm.

[@bazzzzz6175]

@@argorath 🤣😂😆🤣😂

[@ADifferentLens2345]

Mater, it was always for the socially infirm. Liking the show got you beaten up in the playground back in the day.

[@bazzzzz6175]

@@ADifferentLens2345 😆🤣😂 did it, aye?🤣

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

True. It was this nice and sometimes spooky show about this charming yet strange man traveling around all of time and space and protecting the Earth (mostly the latter thanks to Jon Pertwee's run; the budget had to be cut and so a lot of the show was basically earthbound for a while).

[@mayotango1317]

​@@Wendeta-hq2cpThe Jon Pertwee era is the most political agenda ever, even more that the Seventh Doctor era who want to destroy Thatcher.

[@TONYGILLEY]

What annoys me the most about this particular "Doctor" is that he's not playing the character, the Narcissist is just playing himself. I also don't consider him to be the REAL Doctor (Hartnel to Capaldi) based on the dumb Bi-Generation (way to be subtle there Russel) off of David Tennant. This "Doctor" just spawned off someone else like a Gremlin.

[@mayotango1317]

Like everybody, even Tom Baker is just a diva.

[@WhiteDragon689]

Its more like a spawn of Russell T Davies gayness. Maybe he has the hots for Gatwa.

[@codyw1]

The real Doctor walked off into the sunset with Ace and was never seen again.

[@codyw1]

@@mayotango1317 Don't ever recall Tom insulting fans or demanding they love him or else. Try again, luv. Go back to school and grow a brain while you're at it.

[@mayotango1317]

@@codyw1 Matthew Waterhouse says something else, especially how drunk the diva jerk used to get. Ncuti Gatwa was only honest, you guys only live on hate and trolling. Especially listening to a loser like Dalewstrek or Nerdrotic who doesn't know how to tell Cassandra Nova from Polaris in the Deadpool 3 trailer.

[@Alsudani_]

I’m pissed the first black doctor had to be him. Coulda got idris Elba

[@enigmaodell6806]

I can’t believe this man is the purest gay stereotype I think I could find. Very odd.

[@tagir9123]

Look up 2 broke girls, season 2, the launch episode, another stereotypical gay black dude

[@alexman378]

@@tagir9123They’re all the same

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

How tf he is a gay stereotype

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

​@@tagir9123how

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

​@@alexman378no u just racist and homophobic

[@jongreen9171]

There is something really depressing about the fact that all of the shows, films and books I read as a kid and young adult have been bastardised into a hot mess of diversity, woke social justice tosh. Be it Dr Who, Star Wars, James Bond, Indiana Jones, Star Trek etc.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

Marvel and DC's superhero comics have gotten badly hit as well. Now that sales have cratered they've decided maybe all the diversity hires weren't such a good idea.

[@OneofInfinity.]

= Nothing to look up too.

[@MeanBeanKerosene]

Are you fucking? Star Trek has ALWAYS been all of that. Dr. Who, too. No idea what in the piss you're on about with Bond and Indiana Jones unless you're talking about Bond being more real instead of camp of pre-Craig. And Indiana is woke as far as trying to win over obvious bad guys like Nazi's, Bolshevik Communists and whatever the hell the newest movie was about.

[@AVIARYCOURT]

Even the Famous Five was changed by the BBC at Christmas.

[@NecroMoz]

Imagine thinking Star Trek wasn’t always highly politically progressive, I assume you’re joking because no one is that dumb

[@mattwho81]

Ncuti is a fantastic doctor and I’m happy to see the show come back from years in the dire wilderness. I don’t care if it woke, I care if the stories are great!

[@ZarbiDW]

Yeah that’s where I’m at, season one has some amazing episodes it definitely has potential

[@ShadesOfKnight]

Proof that the doctor was NEVER supposed to chase being cool: “It’s a fez. Fezes are cool.”

[@Abuamina001]

.... fezes ARE cool ! 😅

[@ShadesOfKnight]

@@Abuamina001 yep. Along with bow ties and long scarves.

[@douglasfreeman3229]

He was quite good at football, though...

[@CenCent-o9t]

Have u seen the new episodes??? They're not really cool but geeky and corny.

[@ShadesOfKnight]

@@CenCent-o9t they’re not cool, geeky, or corny. They’re full bore propaganda now.

[@Valant-t9p]

They haven’t just killed Doctor Who,they’ve burned away everything good and are just pissing on the ashes.

[@junioraura9958]

It is 100% impossible for your statement to be any more accurate then it all ready is.

[@WOFFY-qc9te]

I am disappointed that Tenant went along with this travesty, Ncuti Gatwa you are an immature insecure narcissist that does not represent the gay community so stop your crusade and take a free flight back to Rwanda your can express you sexuality there, good luck with that. As for Davis well he has sold his soul to Disney and other bedfellows ?.

[@jaybee9269]

The Left in a nutshell.

[@iankearns774]

Not pissing on the ashes, they are just adding more fuel to the fire.

[@jessicajones8976]

Womp womp

[@ddraig1957]

If we had a South Park type show in the UK,it would lampoon Dr Who to pieces.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Its not colourblind casting, because it only ever goes one way. Every choice they make involves skin colour and other superficial elements.

[@andersart1001]

If you say so, them we know for certain it's false XD XD XD

[@bigred8432]

It hasn’t historically only ever gone one way, and that’s the point. Hundreds and hundreds of roles for POC were played by white actors in TV and movies. This is simply a rebalance. I just can’t fathom what makes people so scared of it

[@Shineinpoverty]

They call it inclusion by discrimination and exclusion. Just be careful to not accuse them of discriminating because that could earn you a phobe title.

[@bigred8432]

@@Shineinpoverty Who calls it that?

[@berner]

Should be called "Dr. Why?"

[@tagir9123]

Dr. Where?

[@BeanoTubes]

Dr. WTF

[@feathercat9118]

Dr. Stereotype

[@casualcausalityy]

Dr. What The Hell Is Even That?

[@coltonwilkie241]

Dr. Wuz

[@OpEditorial]

Being able to turn your back on something that you love can be difficult

[@rosanna3765]

I've been a whovian since the 1970s and I pretty much checked out in Capaldi's 2 season. I tried to give Jodie a chance but I just could not stand the writing. no one wants to be lectured, they want to escape.

[@brucewayne7838]

me too ! i watched capaldis 1st and was driven away ! i only watch the classic show now !

[@councilofkarens729]

There were 12 doctors, plus the War Doctor. Nothing else is canon. It speaks volumes that the classic series, with cardboard sets and a £5 per episode budget, is better written, better acted and more entertaining, than the current shite sub-fan fiction.

[@hamiltoncox7651]

"Nothing else is canon" in your mind maybe. In fact, the canon is controlled by the rights holders who can do whatever they jolly well please. Timeless child is canon. Bi-generation is canon. Lesbian Doctor is canon. Bi Tenant is canon. They won. They destroyed it. They did it intentionally to stick it to the straight white majority. They did with hatred in their hearts, because they hate who they are and someone must pay.

[@randallbesch2424]

You say but we must wait for after the shows have run.

[@mayotango1317]

No really, the show sucks in the 80s.

[@Paul_1971]

Totally agree - ended with Capaldi. He was the 13th incarnation including including the War Doctor - end of regeneration cycle in old lore.

[@stephenthorpe3591]

To be fair, Peter Davison, Colin Baker and Sylvester McCoy were all utter shite! The show has been a roller coaster over the decades. We are in another big dip currently!

[@TeWhero]

Honestly, actors need to know. We don’t value their opinions.

[@edenbreckhouse]

Funny how having Davros in a wheelchair might be insulting to people in wheelchairs but portraying him as an old white bloke isn't insulting to old white blokes. Somehow.

[@Nixlplix]

You have it somewhat wrong. It's not that they don't want to insult people in wheelchairs, they don't want people associating disabilities with evilness. Which is the funny part, because they are the ones who clearly made that association in their own heads and assume everyone else will too.

[@lmoore3567]

It is insulting, and they do know that. That's the point.

[@LadyBeyondTheWall]

They didn't "want to associate evilness with disabilities" but NO ONE WAS DOING THAT. It's so insane. It's like just because you, the current showrunners somehow associate disabilities with evil people doesn't mean literally everyone else does. That says far, far, faaaar more about these "We're so inclusive!" idiots than it does the general population. And they don't even realize that's what they said about themselves.

[@journeyman2682]

@@Nixlplix You mean I was wrong for all those years to slap random strangers in wheelchairs crying out 'this is for the genocide of the Thals' and 'Go back to Skaro mutant'. Ah gee, have I some apology letters to write.

[@razorback9999able]

It's funny, because evil takes many forms, even in the most unsuspecting places.

[@EthanKnight97]

Doctor Who died in 2017. Now it's just a corpse puppeteered around and used as a gay sex toy.

[@TheRealMichaelH]

2017? As far as I'm concerned, the end was "The Husbands of River Song", and that was Christmas 2015.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@TheRealMichaelH True bro. The Doctor ended on a happy note, spending his last night with his wife before she went on to be saved by his younger self. The End.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

I wonder what color swatch is used for necrophilia on the flag

[@isaacmaskey468]

Dude how ridiculous is ur comment

[@zerogrey3798]

@@isaacmaskey468 No more ridiculous than yours I'd wager.

[@luckyduck8375]

The biggest indicator; I went into Hot Topics last month. That's where the mall kids go who want the anime and other fan t-shirts and stuff. Even 5 years ago there was one full section of Dr Who stuff. It's gone now, there isn't a shirt or keychain to be found. The next test would be ComiCon.

[@unclerukmer]

Remember when Britain was constantly at the vanguard of clever writing and ideas, a veritable breeding ground from which Hollywood would pull tomorrow’s next global hit? Yeah, those days are long gone.

[@damionkeeling3103]

Blake's 7, Sapphire and Steel, Man From Uncle and all done on shoestring budgets compared to American programmes of the time.

[@xyaeiounn]

George and Mildred (the Ropers) Robin's Nest (Three's Company) Alf Garnett (Archie Bunker) Steptoe and Son (Sanford and Son), so many sitcoms copied directly from the UK to the USA and some that just couldn't translate, like Fawlty Towers, the Goodies, Some Mothers Do Have 'Em, It Aint Half Hot Mum, Dad's Army. Somehow the UK has lost it culturally, this obnoxious identity politics isn't the problem either, it's just a distraction that's stepped into the gap.

[@funkyfranx]

@@xyaeiounnIt’s the infection of woke politics. The majority of the country hates it, but the elites have latched onto it because they think it makes them look good

[@stephenspence1192]

@@damionkeeling3103 The Man From Uncle was an American series.

[@nouvelhomme8990]

No, I don't remember this.

[@capcom222]

As a black man who grew up watching the classic episodes of doctor who I am now done. First star wars and marvel, then star trek and now doctor who. 😥

[@kmartradio]

All of them were always "woke"

[@generalgrievous398]

​@kmartradio This a recent thing. Modern Writing and Ideas have completely destroyed entertainment back then people had sense and respect and wrote things to fit all sides.

[@kmartradio]

@generalgrievous398 false movies and tv always was more on the left. For example in the 70s all in the family was a show making fun of conservative bigots.

[@generalgrievous398]

​@kmartradio We're talking about Doctor Who here the modern version is a complete shell of its former self. And Yes tv in the 70s did do all that but again Good writing existed Remember that? No? Oh well it's maybe because we haven't had it for so long.

[@Alien_cat_taco]

Literally I have stopped watching anything new . They all end up going that road .

[@genx7006]

To be fair, Doctor Who began its death spiral during Christopher Eccleston's first season. There were some good episodes, like "The End of the World", "Dalek", and "Father's Day". But the rest were rather forgettable. The very next memorable episode I can remember was "The Impossible Planet" when David Tennant was the Doctor. And maybe "Utopia" after that. The reason I can only name a handful of episodes from 2005 onward, is because so few were well-written sci-fi. In contrast, I can remember and name just about ALL of the Classic-era Who tales. They made a grave mistake back in 2005. They started making the show about the companions. That was never a thing with Classic Who. And on top of that, they started to delve into the background of the Doctor, which was always supposed to remain mysterious. The Doctor's mystery was what made him cool. Modern Who took that all away. It's as if they forgot what the show was about. It's supposed to be well-written sci-fi stories where each episode can stand on its own. We don't need multiple season character arcs or companion love affairs. That's all irrelevant. It was supposed to be intriguing and engaging sci-fi television. Well, at least we have the Classic episodes we can re-watch.

[@harter517]

This. Why New Who survived was good actors for the 9th-12th doctor and modern day special effects. The writing was already lazy and preachy in the first season reboot.

[@ithinkimaybelosingit]

You forgot to mention that Hartnell's debut was overshadowed by the Kennedy assasination which dominated the TV at the time. It would have been the equivalent of debuting something right after 9/11 or something equally big. So the new Dr Who can only just beat out an episode drowned out by a global event in the 60s. Says a lot.

[@ShanghaiRooster]

The BBC repeated the first episode the following week, before screening the second. On that occasion, An Unearthly Child got six million viewers. The Church on Ruby Road had consolidated figures of 7.49 million, so one could argue it got more viewers than AUC, or fewer, based purely on those two screenings in November 1963 (when the population was smaller and not everybody owned a TV set). I think we all know which of the two is the better episode, in terms of script and acting etc.

[@systembinarygaming]

It aired, what, the next day?! I don't know how this is never remembered. I wasn't even alive back then but, despite being a child, I was agog at finding out that the premiere episode had been up against news that world-shaking. I have never forgotten that. It is part of the glorious legend and legacy of the show and cannot be repeated enough.

[@jaffarebellion292]

After something like that, it's the darker, more topical shows that thrive. After 9/11, for example, "24" saw a massive boost in viewership that led to the show's meteoric rise in the US. Same goes for Battlestar Galactica.

[@systembinarygaming]

@@jaffarebellion292 An interesting observation; thank you for that. And, did you mean the latter incarnation of Galactica?

[@jaffarebellion292]

@@systembinarygaming Yeah. The Ronald D. Moore version.

[@mikeblom8897]

There’s a difference between inclusion and dropping one set of fans for a completely different set of fans. Literally that is the opposite of inclusion

[@kanna-san.]

And there's a good chance the new fans secretly hate you (the creators)

[@tequilasunset4651]

​@@kanna-san.Who hurt you?

[@electricfootballhero1349]

Yeah, they're called kids. Doctor Who is a kids' show, and kids like this. They're just not as intolerant or bigoted as you are. Deal with it.

[@Gay-BiWan.Kenobi]

you do realise DW was always "woke" right?

[@brucewayne7838]

first they exclude us next they will exterminate us for not liking doctor rwanda.

[@simonmaguire5250]

When Jodie Whittaker had done one series, I was in a meeting for work and the two younger ones were talking about si-fi and one of the people in the meeting asked them "How good is the new woman playing the Doctor?". They did not know what to say, so I answered it with "No idea, the script is so bad, there is no way you could tell how good she is playing the part, the only one who comes out of it is Bradley Walsh who must be a great actor for that to happen!". The two young ones looked at each other and both agreed with me, as did a few more in the room who had seen some of it. It got so bad that they had to all "kill" the cast off and bring back the cast from six years before just to keep it going. Then after that it looks like they are going back to the story line that was killing it!

[@Pers0n97]

NGL, it was pretty funny to see how unapologetic and predictable the move from female to black Dr, a move so transparent in its motivations that I'm willing to bet the next Dr will be both female AND black.

[@phenix1947]

AND ginger! yay!

[@Squidley88]

Don't forget homosexual

[@Dullahan161]

*transgendered, gay black Muslim woman

[@Pers0n97]

@@Squidley88 Ofc, that's a given now.

[@arzfan29]

They had 10 back between them

[@darthlaurel]

Dr. Diversityhire =. Rainbow mediocrity

[@Jeremy-ho3vi]

Can Men PLEASE stop Hugging on TV and in life. It's unsightly.

[@purefoldnz3070]

Dr Who has been like this since 2005. Didnt you get the memo?

[@AndrewsMobs]

@@purefoldnz3070 lol no

[@purefoldnz3070]

@@AndrewsMobs lol no what exactly?

[@KlokLogic]

Didn't properly gatekeep the product and allowed people with their own agendas to come in and abuse it

[@zombifiedpariah7392]

Gatekeeping and exclusion is a GOOD thing. I realize that now.

[@aidanlynn]

Are they still gaslighting us into thinking Disney has no involvement in the show? “Season 1”.

[@worthybutter2004]

Yeah, i knew i was right to feel uneasy about them buying the rights to the show.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

The problem is, it's already hard enough to find the original seasons with Hartnell and co. and now they're reusing the "Season" branding over Series, combined with the fact they're going from season "1" again which is going to further obscure the original show too. It's really quite sad.

[@aidanlynn]

@@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung At least they’re on iplayer, minus an unearthly child which is hung up in a legal battle right now.

[@mancyank564]

An Unearthly Child is on DVD. It comes as a box set with The Daleks & The Edge of Destruction. The set is called The Beginning.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

The idiots that decided to take the BBC's best IP and partner with Disney need sacking; they really do. Disney has vandalised _their_ best IP's and ran everything into the ground, imagine what they're going to do with the BBC's properties.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

You characterised the Doctor pretty well. I would even say your characterisation of the character is the most accurate. The Doctor is, for all intents and purposes, the same character throughout the regenerative process. All that really changes is the face, costume and certain mannerisms. What started out as an idea to prolong a show that had an older actor as the lead grew into a very interesting analysis of the multifaceted yet congruent nature of being, the Doctor being the perfect visualisation of how people can change yet still stay the same.

[@patrick_j_lee]

Precisely. The Doctor should always be seen as 1 singular person. I've always hated when the show (particularly in New Who) would have the Doctor say "I've had so many faces, been so many people". No! He's one guy who changes, not multiple people or personalities!

[@stevemarshall4822]

Capaldi was the last real Doctor, not Smith. he was often let down by poor writing and the writer's obsession with Clara, but his portrayal of the Doctor was brilliant, and a proper return to the non -Romance classic doctor. He nailed it.

[@TotemoGaijin]

It was their obsession with making Clara some kinda weird 2 dimensional Mary Sue that made me give up on the show in the first place. Capaldi couldn't save it (I don't blame him, he got done dirty by the writers).

[@gasgaslex_photos]

Dr Who was fantastic as a child in the 1970s, i miss those days

[@gregsmith7949]

There's a reason the 70's is considered the "golden age" of Who.

[@zerogrey3798]

Loved Tom Baker, he and Eccleston are by far the best Doctors IMHO.

[@simeonyves5940]

@@gregsmith7949 1970 to 1981, Pertwee and Baker, *Iconic* !

[@mayotango1317]

Yeah, like the political agenda message and the feminist Sarah.

[@1000guy1]

2006 to 2015 was the golden era of the morden series David tenant, Matt smith and Peter Capaldi where truly one the most iconic actors that played the doctor, I really miss the playsets and action figure waves they used to have during 2006 to 2015

[@FatherOmega]

As a straight Black man, I don’t understand why Black men have to be gay, mixed race “passing” as Black or not into Black women to be interesting.

[@tonybonavera2011]

checks more boxes that way.

[@Zac_Frost]

So they can get more of that sweet, sweet ESG cash.

[@BigMinecraftJohnny]

(Yu Gi Oh fusion card)

[@Gibson1976uk]

I have friends from all over the place and find it disturbing that there is some kind of freedom fighters out there that has to remind them of their skin colour? I would tell those people! Hey!! They are people! Not a colour

[@FatherOmega]

@@Gibson1976uk I get it but our skin color is immutable. It is not something we can chalk up to chance. It’s who we are. More time than not people group together based on color but obviously it’s more than that but that IS a factor.

[@aeroprime3322]

He yammers on about "white mediocrity" and ignores his own mediocrity.

[@gordtron]

someone should just hijack the show concept, call it Mr.What?, and go about it the old original way or what fans demand.

[@ikept_the_jethryk2421]

We had that for one movie. It was called "Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them". But the studio didn't know or value what they had. They could have sent Newt anywhere, with his companions, bigger-on-the-inside office, lock-opening lapel celery. Instead they ruined the sequels with wokeness and memberberries.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@ikept_the_jethryk2421 That was set in the Potterverse though, so we couldn't.

[@kentlindal5422]

Interesting that a supposed "actor" does not seem to understand the "Yes and..." rule. You can make incremental changes but you have to acknowledge what has come before.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

He isn't a supposed actor. He is the lead actor. Also wtf h are talking about

[@bumheadfilmreviews]

@@kuggacouragegx6093 I'll explain it in a language you can understand..... Doctr who is terribal now. It was gud but it's not know. 😂

[@PlayStonkers]

@@kuggacouragegx6093 The number one rule in improvisational acting is "Yes, And..." which means that you are allowed to change things in the story, but only if you accept what happened earlier. You never shut down what the other actor did before you or it shuts down the entire routine. You roll with it and play the game with everyone else. I think what Kentlindal is trying to say is that the new actor for the Doctor (and most everyone else involved in the show) is refusing to say "Yes, And..." by instead trying to shut down all of the prior development of the series and do something different with it.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

@@PlayStonkers wtf are u talking about

[@PlayStonkers]

@@kuggacouragegx6093 I was explaining what the "Yes And" rule is since you were asking. That's all. I don't really know how to make it more clear.

[@Abuamina001]

The charm of "ye Olde" Dr Who was precisely that it was a TV show aimed at kids under 13 years of age, inquisitive and intelligent, solving problems with brains and action, not violence and certainly not pushing overt poli tical or sexual ideas.

[@SeanFlesch]

All kids aren't straight white males

[@Shineinpoverty]

They outright push their sexual desires through the screen. How is "i was snowmanned" acceptable for a family show? This is as dirty as these people fantasize among themselves.

[@danebonsai]

There is no greater sorrow than to recall, in misery, the time when we were happy - Dante AligherI

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

the mediocre actor is calling others mediocre, doesn't see he himself is an mediocre DEI hire. Not surprising from the DEI hire.

[@Jeremy-ho3vi]

D idn't E arn I t.

[@friendlyotaku9525]

you're just blatantly racist.

[@AnomalySource]

The fuck do you mean? Gatwa was not a DEI hire. You people act like DEI is some kind of boogie man. He was picked because RTD thought he would be good as The Doctor. Remember: RTD is the reason Doctor who came back in 2005 and he was the one who casted Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant. Gutwa without a doubt earned it. Being at the center of the DW brand is very difficult according Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi. Gutwa would not have been made the 15th doctor if RTD thought he couldn’t handle it or wasn’t right for the role. I would trust the judgement of the man who brought the show back over the judgement of people online who for the most part don’t watch the show.

[@AnomalySource]

@@Jeremy-ho3vi D id E arn I t

[@nathanadlerinc2790]

​@@AnomalySourcethere had to be one naive brainwashed fool on here, if that's what you think I feel sorry for you

[@erichtomanek4739]

Dr Who ended with the last episode of Peter Capaldi's Dr Who. Anything after is very, very bad fan fiction and not worth your time.

[@silverbirch-youtube]

It's not even fan fiction, which has the distinct merit of at least being written by people who love the source material. This is anti-art and anti-fiction, where all the basic rules of narrative drama are ignored, the conceptual premise of the show is mocked, and the loyal audience are left feeling humiliated and shamed. And it's so very deliberate.

[@Midtable1881]

The failure is incoming at full speed and there are no airbags to soften the blow.

[@journeyman2682]

The companions will double as airbags.

[@FreeTheDonbas]

Doctor Who has been the cartoony, cringey Casanova show since 2005.

[@brianmcguinness9642]

Doctor Who ended with the Capaldi era. Everything after that is a cheap imitation.

[@generalgrievous398]

Last bearable era

[@andersart1001]

You make me laugh XD

[@LokiPhish42]

I thought witiker(sp?) was a good doctor but the writing that season a shit.

[@ddd75qwasd]

This

[@pachuko5192]

This gentleman is simply just not in a position to discuss 'mediocrity' in others from what I have seen.

[@hurricane31415]

Giving the bits I was able to watch without wincing, he is an expert at being mediocre.

[@mayotango1317]

​@@hurricane31415Like the fart aliens or the melodrama of Rose live?

[@demaupin]

@@mayotango1317 Are you implying that when he mentioned "white mediocrity" being celebrated, he was referring to RTD's writing? Interesting take.

[@mayotango1317]

@@demaupin Is not the same?

[@RobbieMartin745]

@@demaupin RTD has written some of the best TV scripts I've read

[@johnhillbilly8625]

I could not believe Catherine Tate and David Tennant came to help destroy and drive the nails in the coffin after the 13th Doctor Jodie Whittake re wrote his past killing him leaving Peter Capaldi the 12th Doctor as the last Doctor for me

[@hydraman007]

I hear Mr. Schwab enjoys watching this show.

[@hinduismwithpremananddasbhagat]

DW was a hero when I was a boy. What other sci-fi character fought aliens without guns? None. Thus, I became sorta anti-gun throughout my life (sorta, not always, cause the Doctor still killed people and took care of trouble). Fast forward 20 years into the future and I see kids going "Whenever I see a person going into a bank with a gun, I do what the Doctor did - I twerk!" Yeah, not exactly the same.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

As a Brit, I am sick to my back teeth of the BBC. We're threatened to pay for the BBC too if we want to watch _any_ television, including the BBC's competitors.

[@yuvrajsingh15823]

I don't know much about how licenses work , can't you just stop the subscription.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

@@yuvrajsingh15823 yes, but it means you can't watch _live_ television anymore. The term _live_ in the licence fee's case doesn't mean "being broadcasted as it's being recorded in real-time", it means streaming the television signal, as in everyone's watching simultaneously as opposed to watching a recording or video on demand. A repeat on TV can be a _live_ broadcast since it's coming over the airways. So yeah, we have to pay it to watch any _live_ TV, even the BBC's competitors! However that money goes to the BBC. It really is an outdated, dreadful system, that has really overstayed it's welcome.

[@yuvrajsingh15823]

@@SpareSomeChange8080 That sounds like very bad thing.

[@SpareSomeChange8080]

@@yuvrajsingh15823 yup, and what's worse is because the BBC isn't allowed to advertise, it's made this very unique situation where the BBC's competitors don't want to scrap the licence fee either, even if they receive no money from it. The licence fee essentially keeps advertiser's away from the BBC, and keeps them with the competition, so they all win; except the public who are divided on scrapping it.

[@170skeith]

As a Brit you don't even have teeth just rotted out husks that would put a meth head to shame.

[@pete8492]

A brilliant, succinct account of why Doctor Who is currently absolute shite

[@AnomalySource]

It’s not. He fails on many levels. He makes no real points. He could have discussed the writing issues present in series 11 but he went after 13 and Yaz being in a relationship in series 13 instead. He makes so many basic errors that it’s clear he doesn’t watch Doctor Who

[@AndrewsMobs]

@@AnomalySource The writing is shit, the story lost its magic ages ago, there easy, don't need a whole video for it

[@joesalyers]

Narcissism is the one word that pops in my head every time I hear one of these melodramatics in acting or music speak about diversity. I work in the music industry and bands and artists talk the DEI talk but actually say nothing at all. When I ask them about diversity of thought or opinion they say things like "thats just a right wing troupe or thats just a dog whistle for the alt-right". When you drill down and pretend you are on their side they say things that would make a mid century german say WTF. Its all just egalitarian BS and liberal racism cloaked as a savior complex. They are true believers and its disheartening to see it play out in real time!! These people were considered fringe outsiders with kooky ideas and left over commies in the 90s and how they rose to be the mainstream of culture is shocking to me!

[@mayotango1317]

Kind hypocrite because Tom Baker is worst.

[@generalgrievous398]

​@@mayotango1317Tom Bakers better than Ncuti will ever be

[@bowchi_]

There is such an indescribably huge gap between the producers and consumers today, these people are unbelievably patronising, a single youtube comment will never be able to describe what i feel

[@michaelreich4827]

And we thought the female doctor was peak cringe.

[@MagnumPopeye]

💯I keep thinking the same thing

[@Crackedcripple]

At least 10 got a happy ending before the show was confirmed dead for good.

[@rehac001]

Maybe if the make a series 15 they could octuple down on die...er dei and make the doctor a black gay transgender lesbian in a hoverchair who has the mental age of a 12 year old to check every box...that will work this time. (wonders what they are smoking to get some or avoid it at all costs)

[@stephenthorpe3591]

The irony is that a female Doctor and even a gay black male Doctor could actually work, but not like this! Gatwa could be a good Doctor if he doesn't overplay his gayness and he responds appropriately to the alien threats, after all, an alien threat is the same whether you are gay or straight. The fact that he is black is neither here nor there. I'd support Idris Elba for the Doctor. Racism isn't an issue here.

[@Gibson1976uk]

Never expected the new Doctor to come out with attacks on white people and talking crap like he’s the victim! We didn’t start this fight! He did

[@BillPeschel]

Let's recontextualize those debut ratings: William Hartnell debut episode "An Unearthly Child" that drew 4.4 million people in 1963. British population in 1963: 54 million Ncuti Gatwa's debut episode "The Church on Ruby Road" drew 4.7 million people in 2024. British population in 2024: 70 million

[@studyaccount6987]

Let's recontextualize those debut ratings: Ncuti Gatwa's debut episode "The Church on Ruby Road" drew 6.2 million people in 2024. Over 450 channels 100s of streaming services 1000s of video games 10s of Social media video channel William Hartnell debut episode "An Unearthly Child" that drew 4.4 million people in 1963. 3 Channels

[@TheZodiacz]

@@studyaccount6987 2024- Dr. Who well known UK TV series that has been shown all over Asia, Africa, Oceania and North America. 1963- some new kid's show about a man who lives in a phone box or something?

[@christianmayrhofer4178]

An stupid comparison. Only Hartnell had a debut. Gatwa only joined a show that had been established for 60 years.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

In Ncuti's defence, the show had lost a great deal during Chibnall's... attempts at writing Jodie's doctor. He could've been better had he A. Not been directed by Chibnall, and B. followed Capaldi, Matt Smith, or a Jodie directed by anyone but Chibnall. Not saying he was overly good, I'm still subjecting myself to the cruel and unusual punishment that is Chibnall's 13th doctor and having to take days in-between episodes to recover from the crinjuries I endure from cringing so hard while watching.

[@MeanBeanKerosene]

@@studyaccount6987 So you're saying that more distraction due to social media and streaming services in 2024 somehow compares to 1963 with just radio, movie theaters and TV's with 12 stations? Cool.

[@Mugen2024]

literally every doctor has a different personality, every actor adds their own special touch.

[@EchoChamberlain]

But Gatwa has disproportionately imposed his own persona and actual characteristics into the character, and people find that annoying. Hence, the terrible ratings the episodes got.

[@woodpigeonsong]

​@@EchoChamberlainHas he? I think he's the blandest Doctor we've had with very little of the actor's personal flair actually going in. Remove your gay blinkers for a minute and actually look at the character. He's put the least amount of uniqueness into the Doctor I've seen in a while. He's practically blank.

[@SpecialAgentBillMaxwell]

I miss the days when the normies didn't know about this show. Once they realized it was there, the downward spiral began. It crashed and burned years ago. Now they just dress up the corpse.

[@rudegarami6738]

Normies ruin most science fiction.

[@billr3053]

Really? Yet here we are… all wanting some good ol’ “normie” -ness to come back.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

Similar things happened to gaming when it went from its niche to the mainstream masses. People see it as a cash cow and milk the crap out of it. The quality doesn't even matter to them as long as the stale old milk sells well enough.

[@PlayStonkers]

It happens every time normies discover anything nerd-related. They completely destroy it and then turn it into a mockery of its former self that constantly smirks at you and rolls its eyes over how stupid it is and how stupid you are for liking it, then have the gall to tell you "You're cool now! Everybody loves the thing you like!" while making you feel even less accepted in the place you once called home. Yuck.

[@codyw1]

Doctor Who ended in 1989. The modern show has never been any good.

[@indiajohnson]

In hindsight, I agree. I appreciate that Modern Who (& my Dad) led me to the Original Series but yeah.

[@TheZodiacz]

A few decent episodes like Midnight, etc but even though I watched every episode up until midway through the 11th Doctor's time I never really thought it captured the essence of Doctor Who. It particularly struck me during The Christmas Invasion as how stilted it was.

[@howlionsmaneknife877]

Tom Baker in a interview said that when he read the script he thought to himself “Hmm this sounds like Tom Baker I think I’ll play the Dr as him” so he put his spin on the character and was highly successful but he did not try to play him as a completely different person or gender or sex or sexual orientation because that was irrelevant to playing the character. Why is it so important to these people to push their sexuality sexual orientation instead of having a show decades old fans watched. How about doing what’s always worked and was not important not pushing your personal lifestyle onto everyone else

[@cpuuk]

The series messages are about as subtle as a cactus enema. In their need to say "look at me" they have done huge damage. Rather than opening social doors they have encouraged people to put up walls. Far from advancing LGBT acceptance, they have poured fuel on the fire of hate. Nice job Chibnall et al.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

This is RTD now. Chibnall did some huge damage but RTD is making it worse.

[@a.morrigan5870]

Dr Who occupied a very special place in my childhood. My father introduced me to Dr Who,,one of the few things we shared. I have kept the good memories, but Dr Who is now dead and gone. I am not interested in watching a corpse being abused.

[@Shineinpoverty]

I joined it in 2007, my earliest episodes were reboot with Ecclestone. At first, I found it very cheesy and cheap. But after few more, I kept watching till Capaldi. It was getting a bit obvious by then, they are gonna kill it. Good time.

[@Juhno]

I always wonder about these people who explain that some fiction gave them an escape in their childhood or youth. But when they get to participate making it, they try to make it unrecognizable.

[@alopexau]

The timeless children is what ended the Doctor, everything that came after is just spiteful desecration of the grave.

[@waynemallette8668]

England has fallen so completely for a reason.

[@generalgrievous398]

There will be a breaking point.

[@OG_G4m3r]

The West in general

[@deansharpe7499]

By the little hats

[@Madmaxxxx1984]

So has Merica effff yaaa

[@Toetalwar]

@@generalgrievous398 it will be too late.

[@Steve_Green]

The ratings for Hartnell's debut are actually pretty impressive when you factor in how few British households had televisions in November 1963.

[@4FYTfa8EjYHNXjChe8xs7xmC5pNEtz]

I lived in southern England in the early 1970s as a military kid. Even in the middle class, families with TVs were very much the exception, not the rule. Ditto for refrigerators, washing machines, etc. England was equivalent to a third world country then.

[@paulklee5790]

Plus you needed a substantial sofa to watch it from behind… speaking from personal experience here…

[@bendream544]

And you factor into it the death of President Kennedy and most people were gripped by the news. When it was repeated afterwards and the media had loosened up a bit, the result was completely different by a few million and stayed at those heady heights for years. More or less when that other odious cretin JNT got involved it really went the way its going now---Space Pantomime. I used to love reading the target novelisations of stories I was too young to have seen, but I could still see Hartnell or Troughton in my minds eye, thus had a lot to do with the brilliant cover illustrations by Chris Acchileos and the other guys I can't remember their names, sorry. But if you were to take any of the past 3-4 years of the show and write novelisations of the episodes they would be terrible and very unreadable. Which is a shame because a lot of young people are getting more and more reasons to not learn basic skills because they aren't given the right encouragement to get up off their backside and put their iPhone or tablet down and do something else with their minds imagination. But it's just what all the politicians want. A docile and numb generation to manipulate easily. Then the takeover will happen......

[@Mr_Case_Time]

I’m wondering who the intended audience is. It’s not made for the older viewers, so are young people really that much into this show? Are there kids in their twenties holding their breath for the new Dr. Who?

[@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro]

I am one of those young people, and no, none of us are watching it. They want to appeal it to the activist morons who endlessly demand and tantrum for this sort of thing, not realizing that those scum don’t actually watch these productions. I grew up on doctor who, but I would never watch it now. They had a whole new generation growing up with it and loving it, and then they killed it in our name. They’re out of touch.

[@kaiowas12]

Not holding their breath but making reactions on Tik Tok

[@Crackedcripple]

As a 20 year old no we are not watching this

[@garytwinem5275]

My 20 year old niece is into manga and D&D and my 21 year old nephew is into partying and FIFA. Doctor Who, not a chance 😃

[@YourMom-qg1lq]

Yes, there are those of us who are excited for the new season and the new Doctor.

[@nightmaretheater_TheCount]

I'm convinced that Echo Chamberlain is the reincarnation of Christopher Hitchens as a woke critic...

[@coltonwilkie241]

Your mama

[@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852]

You seem like the kind of person who eats mustard sandwiches.

[@AnNguyen-sm4bu]

I don’t think there’s enough context regarding “An Unearthly Child”. IIRC, one of the major reasons why their viewership was like that was because they were overshadowed by a far more controversial event: the JFK Assassination.

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>by a far more controversial event: the JFK Assassination

[@papafrank2894]

​@@alexmuenster2102💀

[@shadowchaser3836]

Every American of a certain age remembers where they were and what they were doing when they found out Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died.

[@BeanoTubes]

"She laid out her sketches on the table, and I saw whips and chains and all kinds of gender-pushing, societal-pushing toys. "And I was like, 'Yes, let’s do all of them.'" 😂

[@pauloneill9880]

Sonic screwdriver to be replaced by sonic buttplug

[@TheGrayfrog100]

When they made the Memory Tardis clips, I said this is a Wake. Somewhere for us to remember, think about the good times, and, well we just have to carry on. The Doctor died! Our Doctor died! Remember the good times, this isn't the Dr Who we grew up on. That dream is gone, unfortunately. Remember when Doctor meant Healer, Fixer, Space Karate, Glib comments, a Manic smile, and a Screwdriver that worked on everything except wood and RUN! Now its a Social Warrior, Like the message, or be Hated and Insulted. Its Depressing. Are there any Hero's left in Pop Culture?

[@froggacuda1605]

Even the memory tardis is messed up. They just keep piling in leftist social junk like turning Tegan and Nyssa into lesbians. It's not brave; it's stupid and insulting to the original fans

[@philbooth6372]

Such a slap in the face to decades of love which the shows crew put into it since its onset,will anyone ever even watch this crap?

[@Shintigercurl]

my love for DW died when capaldi left.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Fun fact The Greek word for actor is “hypokrites”

[@OneofInfinity.]

The Romans knew as well.

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

@@OneofInfinity. Plot twist, the Roman Empire never fell, it took itself down knowing what was coming next. Romulus Augustulus did the right thing in hindsight, it seems their buildings weren't the only things ahead of their time.

[@laurenanderson61]

I agree - they've taken the essential Britishness of Doctor Who and turned it into....a bunch of generic preachy crap. Utter crap.

[@jonathanward1585]

Making a game or movie for “everyone” makes a game or movie for no one. RIP Doctor Who

[@CeeTheJay]

You had me up until the "RIP" bit. I would sincerely love it if everyone in this comment thread put their energy into creating fan fiction instead of burning it all up with resentment.

[@TriggerJim88]

England has watched American film and tv imploding and thought that it would be a good idea to mimic those practices. Instead of destroying existing IP, why don't you create a new one? Clearly, British writers are as skilled as their American counterparts. Maybe it's time to strike?

[@jwt-nu3ei]

It all stems from Critical Theory running amok throughout the Anglo-Western upper middle classes. The state of Dr Who merely represents the mass conformity of the North London elite (especially in media circles). The frustrating thing is that the majority of people, whilst 'progressive', at least somewhat see through it all, but they daren't say anything (ironic, given that it arguably completely undermines the central premise of critical theory / the intersectional hierarchy).

[@NTNG13]

It's not England but Disney, they partnered with an american company and it went to shit with the DEI stuff

[@triplejazzmusicisall1883]

This is a superb video post. So articulate and such a great analysis of what DW was and still should retain.

[@odtheman1]

I remember back when I was 11 EVERY statue could be a weeping Angel THAT was horror that was Doctor Who

[@lynnbarsby7356]

One of the best stories ever for me

[@junioraura9958]

"Listen this advice could save you life... Don't blink don't even blink blink and your dead they're fast faster than you could possibly imagine DON'T turn your back DON'T look away AND DON'T BLINK... good luck".

[@odtheman1]

@@junioraura9958 scariest shit ever

[@RagnarokiaNG]

I still can't get over how he thought it was a good idea to call a kilt "gender-pushing clothing" in that interview article, while living in Scotland.

[@Myndir]

A woke activist out of touch with the locals? Perish the thought!

[@claudettegivens9039]

Yes the Dr Who show is totally ruined. Ruined by people who had no idea that Tom Baker and his scarf was a part of the classic feel of Dr Who. Each Doctor was male, eccentric, British accent and brought there own style to the show. The opera cape and smoking jacket was not weird but brought depth to Jon Pertwee. I liked the fact that if needed a Doctor could fight because he knew some type of unique fighting style. Who can fight the part who their was a situation where I think it was Sgt Benton or one of the Unit soldiers was suppose to take the doctor to a cell. The Unit soldier said, well doctor guess you better start overpowering me then and go help the Brigerdier.Use one of your secret martial arts on me. Mention Dr Who and u instantly think of Daleks and long scarfs

[@Congrats1910]

One silver lining I see is, the longer this madness goes on, the more and more classic Who will stand out and apart. Same goes with classic Trek, Star Wars, etc.

[@DoctorDave5]

I’ve recently been watching some of Tom Baker’s run and it really is tremendous. The writing is intelligent and fun. The actors are great (a lot of British stage and screen stalwarts) and best of all, they take it seriously and treat the audience with respect. Unfortunately that is now a thing of the past. At least we can still enjoy those old episodes.

[@1970chrish]

Tom Baker has always been my favorite Doctor.

[@DoctorDave5]

@@1970chrish mine too.👍

[@xyaeiounn]

@@1970chrish Yes! My Dad met Tom Baker randomly and he signed a postcard for my brother and I. I much later found out Tom used to drink with Francis Bacon and visit his own tombstone. Interesting man, but none of that complexity had to be thrown at me, it just happened to be there. A strong sense of self has presence, a weak personality has to be larger than life and constantly announcing itself.

[@DoctorDave5]

@@xyaeiounn 👍