Draft Decision Seems to Indicate SCOTUS Will Overturn Roe v. Wade: Analysis

[@Styxhexenhammer666]

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[@darunealbane]

When you do balanced surveys GMarriage fails as pushed even today

[@tonycharles3566]

Child sacrificing feminists btfo

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

The other side of the coin for Abortion is war... Will humans gladly die for nothing? Forced by their government. Let alone... Genetic Manipulation and technological bio engineering that this planet will inevitably demand from mankind. But humans have chosen their Ends. Extinction will test their worth. Given that morality is always the first to be ignored. In the end... Humans have Free Will, a choice. Live with the choice and move on. Why do humans act as if they know any better for others?... Regardless, I would prefer if humanity had options than to end on this pitiful planet, Earth. Less I oversee another dead world. (Abortion is barely the ice berg of the far future. But for now, humans sure are fools. Given, what created them... Closed off futures lead to a terrible extinction. Today's era of Mankind should be wise or something else will choose for them.)

[@sheldoniusRex]

Some blue haired staffer fresh from xer's Bitterness Studies class at Georgetown is about to lose their law license.

[@deadend1041]

I've been telling you for close to 8 years that roe v wade was terrible law. That if it ever came up for review before the Supreme Court in a real challenge it was finished, not because of the abortion issue, but because there are 3 parties involved in any contractual decision under roe v wade and only one of them has constitutional rights because it strips the other 2 of their rights. I find it amusing watching you have to make this video, you're such a brainwashed male feminist that you can't even understand why this was painfully obvious it was going to happen.

[@deborahd2640]

Remember this decision was made on the basis of “privacy”. Who believes that’s still a thing? Certainly not the gov’t.

[@Thermopylae2007]

Governor Witmer thought that she could regulate actions within our homes due to public health concerns over the pandemic, which essentially throws the right to privacy out the window, so there you go.

[@kittybrowneye3163]

Is there any law they respect depend on how it suits them? They stole property rights for a year the corner stone of what our republic and all democracy is built on. America is kind of like that dream right when you wake up you can kind of remember it, it's right there but long gone all the same

[@KaosNova2]

@@Thermopylae2007 Who really tried to kidnap her?

[@patrickweaver1105]

@@KaosNova2 The FBI.

[@bobbybologna3029]

Thats kinda our own fault though. Like the right to privacy extends to everything in your home but people post ALL of their stuff online, lol. People are just irresponsible at this point.

[@elijahsnow3119]

The draft appears to also be based mostly on how f@$king terrible the actual stated basis for Roe was. Namely it was terribly written, and made stuff up.

[@elijahsnow3119]

The 14th amendment basis for it is just… not correct. In a deep and profound way. It isn’t even about abortion as such. It’s about the claims made about it in Roe V Wade. It was just… a ridiculous ruling. Let the states do as they will.

[@HighlanderNorth1]

So, you're saying that it was written in a nonsensical way that's ironically right in line with modern leftist sensibilities?

[@januarysson5633]

“Emanations of the penumbras…” 🙄😐

[@mariokarter13]

If you look into the penumbra of the constitution you'll find a specter of a séance of a right to abortion.

[@elijahsnow3119]

@@mariokarter13 But only if you do it on the fourth Tuesday following the Conjunction of Mars, Venus, and Pluto

[@pitchforker3304]

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg expressed the same reasoning many times: She supported abortion rights, but said Roe was wrongly decided at the federal level based on nothing, and it should be a decision at the state level. That didn't make her highlights reel, naturally.

[@cannedparmesan3996]

Nor that Antonin Scalia was the one that suggested her to be on the Supreme Court

[@danwalter2175]

Would LOVE to see that stated in the final opinion. The meltdown would be amazing.

[@leechowning2712]

The original reason for the Wade decision was to give the American people time to decide. Just as we have done with same-sex marriage, segregation and similar Acts, and literally argued in the Casey decision, the goal was to bring about a national consensus. It did not happen and at this point there is no further chance of it doing so. Instead it has become a core argument between the two parties. What the court is doing is bowing out of the argument. Basically what they are saying is that they are tired of every single Justice being asked what they think on roe v Wade. It was poorly decided, it was poorly argued, and it was never intended to become a replacement for actual law. Now Congress gets to argue with the states. And I guarantee that even if they repeal the filibuster the present Congress could not survive trying to pass a legislative version of Wade. At 6 months out from the election, and why I believe it was leaked now rather than waiting for the end of June like scheduled, this is going to be extremely interesting electoral politics. Because Democrats from red or purple states are going to have to be very gentle on arguing for abortion, while Republicans from Blue leaning purple States will have to be just as careful arguing against it.

[@robertisham5279]

Honestly, she should never have been appointed a supreme court justice.

[@jasonx7501]

LOL dogwhistle much? You guys are a walking contradiction. On one hand, you desperately want to be on the side of liberty, but then on the other hand, you want to enforce your clearly right-wing ideological crusades (pro-life) that contradict your ability to support anything based on liberty.

[@patrickweaver1105]

The voiding of Roe vs Wade is a dagger at the heart of judicial activism at the federal level. It will eventually lead to the reigning in of the commerce clause. So much of what is done at the federal level is based on the idea that the constitution can be ignored when convenient.

[@SonofTiamat]

Those were my thoughts. From what I understand, RvW enables SCOTUS to act as a defacto third legislature enforcing its will on the country

[@debanydoombringer1385]

That would make Roberts thrilled. Kavennaugh and Thomas are getting their gun cases and next it will be Roberts turn to address the commerce clause.

[@OokamiKageGinGetsu]

@@SonofTiamat They did that with gay marriage. SCOTUS decided it was legal and every state had to recognize gay marriage, and suddenly, without a bill or a vote by Congress, it's suddenly law.

[@SonofTiamat]

@@OokamiKageGinGetsu Federally enforced wokeness

[@InternetHydra]

"It will eventually" Just two more weeks.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

I admit, I'm not surprised Roberts is waffling on this. Either because of politics or because he genuinely agrees with it. He's the biggest RINO on the bench.

[@bclark28100]

John "My job is to make the hard decisions but I pretend my job is 'deal making' to avoid backlash" Roberts Most spineless piece of Supreme shit we've had in a while.

[@vidlink]

RINO? You misspelled Traitor. Ohh... wait... they're one and the same. Carry on, good sir.

[@dianakarina8080]

@@vidlink "It's the same picture!" -Pam from the Office meme

[@noone8418]

You don’t have to agree with every point to be a republican unless they’re no better than democrats

[@lrod312]

He’s not supposed to be a RINO or DINO he’s supposed be objectively unbiased. That being said, reality has a “right wing” bias nowadays and should rule accordingly.

[@SaltyKeldion]

The fact that this can (and will be) argued as a "ban on abortion" is a painful reminder of the USA''s ignorance of civics.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

It will turn into a ban on abortion in some states. My chief worry is that it will result in a ban on therapeutic abortions or at least the sort of chilling effect that we have now seen with pain management with opiates, with doctors afraid of the federal government and the local DA. There will be some adverse effects, especially among the population unable to afford travel to a different state.

[@kevinh2345]

The leak was absolutely not from anyone on the majority side of the game. It's far more likely that activists in the dissenting minority wanted public pressure applied given how mobs have worked in the past.

[@DianaJG8]

EXACTLY 💯

[@Ratkill9000]

It was likely one of the Justice aides that did it. Usually the aides are aspiring to become judges or lawyers, but this one might of had very little going for them and had nuked their chances. This was to cement that.

[@ronfox5519]

The leak is an attempt to intimidate the court. And this is not the first time lately.

[@dylanjohnson3345]

Gotta love being a republican. We appoint Robert’s…then when we actually get a majority….he switches and votes with the dem judges on every important issue 🤦‍♂️

[@mikemcnair2026]

4 picks by presidents that didn’t have the popular vote aka will of the people. Cry more.

[@DickDickstein]

@@mikemcnair2026 Better than presidents who got judges after cheating to win an election they didn't actually win. HAte to tell you this, but abortion isn't a democratically agreed upon issue, and likely has more against than for. The left is great at smearing the lines so that idiots will do what Styx said in this. "HAve it for rapes, etc.".

[@Skitdora2010]

@@mikemcnair2026 We live in a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Democracy would have the whole country ran by the inbred retarded drug addicted unemployed democrats living in cities who don't have two brain cells amongst the whole ugly lot of them. Mob rule, the popular vote, is nothing but an incompetent morons pipe dream. That is where all the slobs living in the city vote to steal all the resources from the less populated successful areas because their incompetent asses in cities can't do it for themselves.

[@jemase7931]

He is not voting with the Democrats. He is, hopefully, voting on whether or not Roe v Wade was a sound legal decision. I have been pro-choice for over 50 years. But I always thought Roe v Wade was a bad decision.

[@frankalejandro1997]

@@mikemcnair2026 Reagan and both Bushes had popular vote victories confirmed by the media. Trump did to, but via ballot harvesting and vote tampering via voting machines bring connected to servers, the vote was fixed. The bought out media was more than happy to go along with this coup d'etat. Aren't you the guys who said the election was rigged for 4 years straight? Remember Robert Mueller?

[@Charlemagnetheman]

This won’t affect the midterms. Economy still sucks and Biden’s approval is still low. Also, ppl have low attention spans

[@addajjalsonofallah6217]

If the economy had been booming this would actually have a impact But the way things are going it's very unlikely

[@Charlemagnetheman]

The economy is still the #1 issue at the end of the day. Not everybody cares about abortion

[@Gwenhwyfar7]

I think it will make a difference, but we will just have to fight harder.

[@NickTheEnlightened]

@@Gwenhwyfar7 Any slight boost the Dems get from this will easily be overriden by the same boost the GOP is about to get from the "lost" conservative voters who have lost faith this could ever happen and are finally going to pull into the polls in droves.

[@trueblueclue]

The media will just bring it back around the midterms. As if congress can affect this overturning.

[@notjimmystewart]

My body my choice - says the fully vaccinated and boosted

[@nottodisushttoagen1309]

ironically, the vaccine stuff is more of a "my body, my choice" because it's not about another body growing inside. Put simply. the fetus is not her body.

[@thecheese4255]

Should’ve ALWAYS been pursued as a stand alone amendment if the proponents had the guts to pursue as much The 14th Amendment has been used and abused and this was always one of the worst examples

[@booqueefious2230]

Yeah and they know that would never happen, theres not enough support for that, the threshold for an amendment is too high

[@bobbybologna3029]

Everybody knows thats just not going to happen, they were very happy with its fake pseudo-constitutional status because they always knew that was the best they were going to get.

[@trueblueclue]

Nope. It's child murder. Good riddance.

[@SuperRayW]

they never really cared, it just gave them political leverage to hold single issue voters hostage so they could ensure control of SCOTUS by activists.

[@AnangryGiraffe1]

SCOTUS are all traitors when thwy let these evil fucks rig and steal the 2020 presidential election... They let them steal our fucking country from us!!

[@bobibufi1389]

You really should have talked more about WHY this draft was published. Since the decision is going against left wing policies, the predictable reaction is public leftist outcry, not ruling out heavy handed tactics like last summer. The goal is to create a pressure on judges before the vote...

[@Jonsey-lm5sv]

True. But, like everything the radical left tries, it will hopefully backfire spectacularly in their faces. They’ll likely find the blue haired POS who leaked this and if there is any justice, said POS will end up working at 7-11.

[@uptoolate2793]

That's what I was thinking. I've read the leaker was the "wise" Latina. If so, she did this to fuss with her bench mates.

[@leechowning2712]

If that was the case it would have been released in February. If you look at the PDF of the document which is available online, this draft was finished February 10th. What I expect happened is they looked at the late June release date and agreed that it would dramatically change the election. This is something the supreme Court prefers not to do. As such they permitted a leak of the early draft, which I guarantee is not the present draft, to take the pressure off before the June official release. Reading through the document it is extremely obvious that this decision is going to stand. The wording leaves absolutely no work space for a half measure like happened in Casey. It actually quotes from the discussion in Casey where they talked about these decisions being intended to calm the national discourse which did not happen. As such the continued support for the ACT is nearly insane because all it has done is made life miserable for every incoming Justice in the last two decades. The fact that nearly a quarter of the argument on an incoming justice has been questions about Wade is ended. The wording of this opinion makes it almost impossible to bring back as a supreme Court ruling. Simply put Congress has to get off of its ass and try to do anything.

[@9ramthebuffs9]

Changing the opinion now would undermine the authority of the supreme court.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

It is also to derail the red wave which was set to happen next November because of the mess the Dems have made of the country. What a great world to be born into with two strikes against you already. But this is an emotional issue to stop us from thinking too hard about what is going on.

[@stephanarizona9094]

A few websites states it was a Court Clerk who leaked. Its a great thing to overturn it but doesn't make it illegal, it would be a states right decision.

[@NickTheEnlightened]

As it should be. It's asinine that abortion was EVER federalized in this country!

[@JRock3091]

Apparently Sotomayor's Clerk, and she probably blessed the decision. If so she needs to be impeached. And after the midterms might get that treatment anyway.

[@LuciusC]

It shouldn't even be a states' rights decision. Frankly if you're going to do that you may as well just legalize it because the psychos will just go on vacation to commiefornia and come back with an empty womb. Slavery also isn't a states' rights issue for the same reason. The constitution clearly guarantees the right to both life and liberty, anyone who would harm others in that way is wrong regardless of what the state thinks.

[@iamperplexed4695]

Probably, by now, a former law clerk.

[@merendell]

@@iamperplexed4695 depends on which judge the clerk works for. Remember we just confirmed an activist who's only qualifications were melanin content and possession of a va-jay-jay. This very well could be an act of one of the 9 through a law clerk.

[@williampieper1750]

So they kick it back to the states, where it belongs. This is why we have a federal system. SCOTUS should not decide this. This is a matter for legislatures.

[@Charlemagnetheman]

Regardless of your views on abortion, people should be able to VOTE on the issue thru their state representatives. Overturning Roe v Wade is inevitable and frankly the right choice

[@baneverything5580]

Don`t you care about GAY BABIES? AH GEEZ!

[@RNA0ROGER]

States rights are not a negotiable factor

[@NickTheEnlightened]

Exactly. The only crime is the fact that this unconstitutional piece of garbage was precedent for nearly 50 years.

[@justinmccray5014]

@Wicker 2 no we don't. Abortion is murder. If they make abortion federally legal. Civil War will start.

[@RNA0ROGER]

@Wicker 2 Except they are not in violation of the constitution by in large.

[@joeandthehoegottago4555]

Who cares. It should be a states individual issue anyway.

[@ahoyforsenchou7288]

No, it should be illegal across the land, full stop.

[@Gwenhwyfar7]

Exactly. States even get to selectively decide which constitutional rights we get, like guns, for example, so why not abortion?

[@xstatic-ow5mz]

@@ahoyforsenchou7288 if you agree with Styx you wouldn't be posting such hateful nonsense

[@mrs.lilianfetters1432]

Cut federal government by 50%.

[@reaper10unleashed]

@@Gwenhwyfar7 Abortion isn't explicitly protected by the constitution like the right to bear arms is.

[@throckmorton3705]

cases overturned by the supreme court- Abood v. Detroit Board of Education (1977), Baker v. Nelson (1972), Lochner v. New York (1905) and Adkins v. Children's Hospital (1923), Chisholm v. Georgia (1793), Adler v. Board of Education (1952), Bowers v. Hardwick (1986), Pace v. Alabama (1883), Austin v. Michigan State Chamber of Commerce (1990), Oregon v. Mitchell (1970), Wolf v. Colorado (1949), Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857), Plessy v. Ferguson (1896)

[@ulthanesmorkums]

Plyler v. Doe should be next.

[@januarysson5633]

Wickard v. Filburn (1942) also needs to go.

[@TheTundraTerror]

Cool

[@ulthanesmorkums]

@CanisMalus XD

[@CountArtha]

United States v. Cruikshank (1876) was overturned by McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010)

[@Jared_Wignall]

The fact that a draft has been made regarding this issue is quite big, regardless of wherever one stands on this issue. There’s been lot of talk with people who are against Roe v. Wade, yet nothing has ever been done like this before.

[@covid19alpha2variantturboc7]

Well we all know where Styx/Tarl stands on the issue: let them kill babies

[@covid19alpha2variantturboc7]

And we already know where Styxhexenhammer666 stands on the issue - and it's NOT in the young one's favor.

[@xstatic-ow5mz]

@@covid19alpha2variantturboc7 I agree with Styx then. Abortion good. Childbirth bad.

[@BatalionHunter]

If the roe v wade thing is true what do you think the betting odds are that the leak came from the judge jumanji or her office.

[@mariokarter13]

If it were a well reasoned, legally sound decision, the controversy wouldn't have lasted 50 years. Throw it out and start over. If you've gotten abortion, you should be familiar with that concept.

[@BanalLayman]

This leak reeks of a mid term hail Mary on the Dem's part.

[@Walter-wo5sz]

Probably Putin did it. Release the nukes!

[@techpriestalex8730]

A hail Mary that it will back fire massively.

[@NickTheEnlightened]

It's worth it if it means we're saving millions of unborn children from brutal murder. Besides, with how garbage the economy is right now plus Biden's terrible approval rating AND the fact that voters in this country have short attention span and forget things easily within just a few weeks if even that long, I highly doubt it'll sway the midterms that much anyway. Especially because historically abortion hasn't been a top defining issue for like 90%+ of the electorate, and even of those where it is one, they're overwhelmingly pro-life voters.

[@ElTigre12024]

The economy sucks so bad that Democrats aren't going to get any real boost from Roe v Wade getting overturn. I care more about being able to put food on the table than whether I am allowed to abort a baby the day before he/she is born.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

Don't legislate from the bench if you don't want the bench to remove your favorite bit of pseudo-legislation whenever it tilts to the other side

[@zwerrell]

There may be less of an outcry if instead of protesting, these people would read the constitution and then realize it in fact does not protect a right to an abortion. Then we all can go home in peace, and more people would be aware of what the constitution does and does not say.

[@theflu6734]

Unfortunately democrats can't read

[@somethingsomething8511]

They don't care about the constitution. If it doesn't say what they want they'll just make up some bullshit about the commerce clause to justify it.

[@settame1]

Or maybe if they realized that absolutely nothing will change in 45 states, and the states where it will change they can go next door without issue.

[@dany-ps2my]

When that pos former gov of Virginia was talking about post birth abortion that was my final straw and started hoping they ban it all, they went way to far

[@phoenixobrien163]

Don't forget the Right will LIE LIKE HELL and exaggerate like hell too. I take whatever they say with a huge grain of salt.

[@Jfund12]

The activists have pushed way past safe, legal, and rare. And they expected no pushback. It's no longer "It should not ruin a woman's life" to "It's great birth control".

[@spiritmatter1553]

"Safe, legal, and rare" was the slogan of the 1990's. It went from that to "shout your abortion."

[@kathyflorcruz552]

ALSO they stripped the father's rights CLEAN AWAY with Roe v Wade.

[@Jfund12]

@@spiritmatter1553 Exactly. It went from what could be considered a "necessary evil" to full support. Whatever the reason.

[@bnic9471]

The "Shout Your Abortion!" crowd have made a LOT of people examine their own personal limits. They've done it by managing to sicken reasonable, moral people.

[@rmyoung77494]

I always wondered why “rare” was part of their argument. I mean, if there’s nothing wrong with it, then why should it be rare? More logical to say safe, legal, and easily accessible.

[@HERITAGE12]

My entire media will go nuts 🤪 (Ireland 🇮🇪) its going to be entertaining as hell

[@docastrov9013]

Ireland is finished. Sold out to the Brits by 🏳️‍🌈

[@jasongraham8250]

This is about the midterms. This is the Democrats get out the vote campaign.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

Yeah, pragmatic concerns aside, RvW makes no sense. _The government can't interfere with your private relationship with your doctor?_ Could someone read me the portion of the constitution that says that, and then could they please read that same portion of the constitution to the people who are implementing coronavirus vaccination mandates and vaccine ID mandates for healthcare workers Now, I'd agree in principle that the government shouldn't interfere with your relationship with your doctor, _unless of course your doctor is doing something illegal._ Like, say, poisoning people. RvW really puts the cart before the horse in that respect. But even if I like the principle, you won't actually _find_ the principle anywhere in the constitution. Bench legislation is bad, not only because it violates the purpose of the supreme court, _but also because if the supreme court tilts to the other side, they can just get rid of it._

[@KingRyanoles]

100% everyone should be against Roe, but many on the left have no respect for the constitutional process anyway. It's all good as long as it's power for their side...

[@cerebraldreams4738]

This was literally an argument AGAINST the bill of rights, and it's also the reason the 9th amendment was created. Not every right is explicitly enumerated in the constitution, and those other rights are protected under the 9th amendment, which itself was passed just so people wouldn't block the other parts of the Bill of Rights.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

@@cerebraldreams4738 lolwut? I have no objection to the rights _specifically enumerated_ in the constitution. But if you want to make an argument that people have a right for the government not to invade their privacy when it comes to their relationship with their doctor _except after some number of months into a pregnancy, at which point the right goes away and the government can invade their privacy,_ then you'll have to source it from something other than the constitution. RvW _supposedly_ is based on rights enumerated in the constitution, but no such rights can be found. That doesn't mean people don't have the right, but that means we need a constitutional amendment or a bill from congress, not legislation from the bench.

[@BLRodgers]

For better or worse, this will almost definitely accelerate the self-sorting to areas that are more aligned with a person's political and social values that seems to have increased in pace in recent years.

[@Dan-ji4db]

That's fine. In another hundred years theyll change the name to the democratic and republican states of america. The dem states will all be shitholes of course.

[@CountArtha]

I'm moving to Tennessee in a month or two and it does feel a bit like being a refugee from Yuppie liberalism.

[@Dan-ji4db]

@@CountArtha im in Asheville NC and its a leftist commune basically

[@chago4202000]

I'm fine with not living around baby murders

[@CountArtha]

@@Dan-ji4db North Carolina has been colonized by the "Research Triangle" that has absolutely nothing in common with the actual culture of the state. Same thing that happened to Virginia and Georgia.

[@darrenvanderwilt1258]

I’m against abortion, but also don’t want government getting itself involved in it. Put it back to local and individual choice. Also, if you’re a blue haired wacko, and your area has restrictions on abortion, then move.

[@nunereclipsereborn]

@Darren VanDerwilt Dave Chappelle: "My Money, My Choice!"

[@erynlasgalen1949]

Government is government, whether it's local, state, of federal. It's the state and local government that can infringe on individual rights simply because the majority is in favor of doing it.

[@bojackbojackbojack]

I propose mandatory weekly pregnancy testing on women. A lot of the people upset at this potential ruling seemed to be all gung-ho about testing these past 2 years.

[@ExtraChocolate80]

Right many of these people who are currently outraged were so pro-vaccine mandates and didn’t mind people losing their jobs. 🙄

[@settame1]

Not on every woman...every person, don't forget men can have babies too. Any time a person goes into a bar they should have a pregnancy test, just like how they do before x-rays now.

[@testicularoxide5055]

What?!? The Constitution DOESNT say we can kill kiddos?!?!🤔🤷‍♂️

[@es83stevenson88]

I use to be pro choice. That's until Ben Shapiro asked students to define life in a way that would not also apply to the unborn. Once you know that it is a life it becomes immoral to harm it

[@angrynapolean3820]

Well, you could always pull a Styx. Just ignore principles, ignore reason, and say that sometimes killing babies is okay because you don't want your taxes paying for a life. It's an inconvenience, so murdering the unborn is fine

[@BrassyBrunette]

ES83....yes!! Abortion merely ends the pregnancy. The child is immortal. To have an abortion is like having a grave in your back yard FOREVER. That child doesn't go anywhere. Which is easier to live with forever....a dead child buried in your life. Or a child that lives on, grows up and has a chance to make a difference in this world? Which is actually "selfish" A created GRAVE or a created LIFE? Obviously just by looking around at our situation....access to abortion had not prevented the human condition.

[@zoobrizz]

It’s hard to believe that a mom would want to kill their own baby in the 2nd trimester

[@skorpiongod]

@@zoobrizz why not? People have been killing their own children since animals developed the capacity to kill. Born or unborn, at all stages of life and development.

[@nunereclipsereborn]

@@skorpiongod So by your logic should we permit to kill those comatose or even brain-dead patients????????????..............

[@Daniel-ob2ml]

Full term and partial birth abortion are what started the backlash against abortion. The idea of killing a viable life at the time of birth was seen as outright murder. When these became legal in some states it created outrage. That is when the discussion as to when life truly begins came to the forefront.

[@Jonsey-lm5sv]

If these leftists weren’t such vile ghouls and demons by doing such evil sh*t, it seems unlikely that abortion would be left alone.

[@masterpassword2]

You are lying. Full-term abortion isn't legal anywhere in the world except, apparently, Netherlands, where it is stricly limited to fetuses that have serious (painful, even) disabilities.

[@settame1]

@@masterpassword2 it isn't prevented in many states. Colorado just voted for it in 2020. I believe DC allows abortion without restrictions (including who can perform the abortion and where it can be done). This is besides the point that you often can't challenge a mother as to how far along she is, she could be obviously 9 months and say she's 6 weeks and there's not much a doc can do.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

But, but, but if these abortions were legal it was the states themselves that allowed it. Roe gave states the ability to ban elective abortions in the third trimester. It seems that few did that, most likely so as not to tie doctors hands in a true medical emergency, or that they wanted to mount test cases by banning abortion earlier to overturn the decision.

[@tomfoolery333]

@@settame1 I live in Colorado and you are correct. Abortion is now legal up to the moment of birth in our state. For any reason. A woman can choose abortion during labor and there is no need for there to be any medical issue or abnormality or anything. I think it is barbaric. I have known people who were considering abortion in their seventh, eighth or ninth month. Viability is now around 5 months, give or take, depending on specifics and obviously necessitates serious medical intervention to support the life outside the womb. It is actually hard to comprehend the situation in this state.

[@Otaku155]

They should overturn it. Parents have the right to parent their children and the 10th Amendment states quite clearly that the Feds have no business meddling in this matter.

[@drinkinbuddy8264]

I hope anyone that engages in insurrection against this decision are identified, harassed, jailed, political prisoner, and lives ruined just for fairness

[@phoenixobrien163]

Let the Extremist Religious Right Tyranny Begin!

[@Aaron.Reichert]

I think the ultrasound should have ended roe vs wade. That and the whole it not being in the Constitution and being pulled out of thin air.

[@settame1]

My mom had one ultrasound with me and her doc sister warned against it because they didn't know what would happen. I've had 6 in 23 weeks, my doc had one every day of her 2 pregnancies, amazing how much has changed in 30 years.

[@Aaron.Reichert]

@@settame1 I still can't see much in them till late-term. That being said, seeing the ultrasound of my firstborn in real-time made me feel like more of a dad than feeling the baby kick. The reality of it, finding out the gender, watching him move, all that stuff caused emotions that I didn't know were possible until they happened.

[@CmdrCorn]

This feels like a perfectly timed red herring just so that the current regime can argue FOR abortion for the 20th time this coming election season... People, these problems are largely solved. Government's role in these wedge issues have been pretty much dealt with, but the people writing books, lobbying, grandstanding etc, cant simply let their grift go and do something useful...

[@alexandria1663]

This problem is not solved for me until abortion is banned outright on a federal level. This is merely a step in the right direction.

[@somethingsomething8511]

Just because you're ok with slitting babies throats doesn't mean the rest of us are

[@alexandria1663]

@MotoIncognito I can’t imagine calling someone an authoritarian for opposing the murder of innocents.

[@alexandria1663]

@MotoIncognito I’ll never be able to grasp the same straws you did, so sad for me.

[@alexandria1663]

@MotoIncognito are you like 12? 13? Serious question.

[@misswinnie4.8]

Allegedly some clerk on Sotomayor's staff leaked this document.

[@christopherconard2831]

Got to give the protesters time to warm up.

[@mrs.lilianfetters1432]

Just fortifying the midterms.

[@Charlemagnetheman]

Midterms just got a lot more interesting. We’ll see how this plays out.

[@trevormurray617]

If the 2020 riots didn’t affect the average person enough then this won’t

[@bclark28100]

Best part is this is happening with a Biden presidency and a Dem supermajority. 😂🤣 That's the best knife twist to them.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

@The John Magufuli Society people are forgetting Biden is causing this whole food shortage too. None of this wood be happening if our golden boy Trump were in office.

[@Edgebotv4]

lots of fiery but mostly peaceful riots i suspect.

[@baneverything5580]

If we can save just ONE gay baby, it`ll be worth it!

[@TheSteg192]

The left will totally forget about this issue come November. They're waaay to early if they want to get any sort of political hype with this. Their attention spans are that of goldfish.

[@imyourdaddy5822]

They'll find something else to get angry about, they're always mad about something.

[@NickTheEnlightened]

And even if they don't, like I've said, it's worth it. Preventing baby murder is far more important than red dots on a map.

[@mariaavalon3730]

@@NickTheEnlightened Except it isn't baby murder. Before sentience, intelligence and personhood develop is not murder. Once more from what I have heard with Alito he plans on repealing gay marriage and even making sodomy illegal again so Christians can have their own Sharia states.

[@snaker9er]

the decision will come later this is just the appetizer

[@mariaavalon3730]

@@snaker9er Well it will certainly make me vote blue. I despise the wokeists but I hate Christianity even more. Which really wokeness is just a Christian heresy.

[@jasonwomack4064]

"This is clearly the work of big coat hanger" -Twitter, probably

[@Garrett316]

I should really buy some stock in wire hangers.

[@aceoffox3028]

I'm against an abortion ban. On the other hand the state can mandate I get a shot...... Don't see the problem anymore....

[@Pennsylvania343]

It's a good decision this should have been left up to the states in the first place and I'm saying this as a woman Roe V Wade had some of the shotiest logic that has ever been presented in a court the constitution clearly states that we all have the right to LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness abortion takes the right to LIFE away I am concerned that this was leaked though because certain groups "peacefully" protesting against this might effect the decision let the states decide on this! Each state should have a referendum and allow the state citizens to vote on if they want abortion legal in their state or not that is what should have been done in the first place!

[@CeeLiberty]

As a woman this is exactly how I feel too.

[@juanduenas1943]

As a magical toaster I agree too.

[@vcat8136]

Imagine people having to think twice before having casual sex with someone they just met because they MIGHT have to take responsibility for their actions in a much bigger way!

[@phoenixobrien163]

Sounds like Fascism

[@nunereclipsereborn]

@@phoenixobrien163 "Safe, Legal, Rare" my ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@vcat8136]

@@phoenixobrien163 Yes. Self-accountability and responsibility is definitely fascism. 🙄 Don’t get it twisted. I didn’t say it shouldn’t be allowed…but to have a major Supreme Court ruling based on a lie is a slippery slope in future rulings.

[@phoenixobrien163]

@@vcat8136 -- It's a slippery slope now...straight to Religous Tyranny and Fascism.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

I hope you realize that people like that make the worst parents. Gosh, I would really hate to think that I was born as punishment for someone having irresponsible sex.

[@seemoretoys5944]

But... But... Where will Planned Parent Hood get fetus body parts to sell for medical research? How will big pharma test their vaccines without aborted fetus cells?

[@syoung4471]

Abortion is murder. Honestly, I don't think I go have one even if I was going to die having the baby. I understand there may be certain situations where it might be needed, yet at the same time terminating a pregnancy doesn't mean you have to terminate the life. It bothers me that people are so callus about life in general. At most I am will to make a compromise to first trimester only and even then I would want strict rules for it. This should not be used as birth control. The other thing too that no one mentions is that women still die from getting abortions even in current year. This would be filed as sepsis at the coroners office and not as a complication to abortion. I'm sure if someone did some actual digging they would find there are a lot more then people realize. Then you have two people dead. I guess when people have no value for life then it doesn't matter right? Lastly, if abortion is to be legal then child support should be abolished. No one has any personal responsibility for any of their actions then.

[@masterpassword2]

Abortion is very safe and simple. The most common method for abortion is taking a pill. (*) Your understanding of abortion seems to be stuck somewhere in the '70s. Your comment about abolishing child support is, simply put, childish anger and highlights how retarded your side of people is. (*) At 12 weeks, which is the universal limit for "unconditional" abortion, the fetus is about 2 inches long and weighs the same as three 5-cent coins. Medical abortion before this time is very effective and safe. Late-term abortions are highly restricted everywhere in the world and basically limited to cases where the fetus is non-viable anyway. Many disabilities or development defects cannot be detected until later in the pregnancy.

[@masterpassword2]

Btw, it sounds like you are in favour of banning all medical operations since people "might die" during surgery or complications following treatment. Back to the dark ages, that is, where you seem to be living mentally already.

[@shankington9931]

why does the baby being younger make it more acceptable? A baby is a baby. The only situation where there may be a grey area is if its statistically likely to kill the mom.

[@ruddman3774]

S Young, I agree with u. Except I don’t think we should allow it in the 1st trimester. We all have a beginning n we will all have an ending.

[@lukemehalick370]

I thought murder was already illegal? Federal government, or any government shouldn't have the power to authorize murder.

[@NemisCassander]

Well... I... dunno what to say, beyond 'what is legal is a matter for governments to decide'? There's nothing preventing a state or federal government from making murder a non-crime. You could say that governments shouldn't have the power to decriminalize murder, but I'm not sure how you go about that, at least in the US. Constitutional Amendment would make it the most difficult, but I wouldn't say that it's impossible.

[@Boxmediaphile]

I just want it to go to the states

[@robfrank3423]

I would rather they focus on the ministry of truth and rule them unconstitutional

[@Drago2600]

They have to have a suit to focus… are there any suits against the agency yet?

[@KSGomez88]

Baby steps. Pun intended.

[@shankington9931]

I'd rather have a ministry of truth than legalized baby murder.

[@reekinronald6776]

@@shankington9931 If you had a ministry of Truth you wouldn't be able to mention baby deaths And you would still have baby deaths. Ministry of Truth should be the priority it is the basis of all Dem power.

[@NemisCassander]

@@shankington9931 If I had to choose one... I'm not sure which I'd choose. I am 100% against abortion at any level, but RvW doesn't _require_ abortions, it just allows them. A Ministry of Truth that can control what truth _is_ in the government can have far wider implications. As just one example, a Ministry of Truth could allow abortions even against a federal ban on them by changing the definitions of terms. So... I'm not sure which is worse.

[@flhxri]

The meltdown is going to be amazing

[@GrafVonTirol]

As someone who believes that abortion should be legal (albeit with several strict provisos; first trimester at most, with circumstances of rape, incest or endangerment of one's life. Also, there should be medical certification in order to carry it out, and even then condoms and the pill are cheaper), it should be a state issue, not something hamfistedly handled by the federal government.

[@dougdownunder5622]

Back in the day when this was news, abortions after 3 months was never mentioned.

[@cerebraldreams4738]

No. Abortion in practice fills a valid eugenic need that improves our population over the long run. If a woman knows the man who got her pregnant is a piece of shit, and he's likely to bail instead of helping her raise the kids? Pretty likely to get an abortion. Dad's gonna go to prison? Probably gonna get an abortion. Dad refuses to work and contribute, and he's a fucking parasite living on mama's welfare? Probably gonna get an abortion. Abortion is completely voluntary, and it is a net benefit to society. Most of the people getting abortions, are people who SHOULD get an abortion.

[@SlowSpyder]

If congress won't make a decision then it should be a state decision.

[@addajjalsonofallah6217]

Right until congress makes a law allowing it on a federal level But who knows how long that will take

[@anorouch]

It's not a decision for congress though. Abortions have nothing to do with interstate commerce.

[@justinwhite2725]

@@addajjalsonofallah6217 even if Congress makes a law it will be struck down by SCOTUS. The federal government can't really just make whatever laws it want, either. If they aren't given power over something by the constitution then it's up to the state.

[@nunereclipsereborn]

@@anorouch Congress can debate all they want but abortion should be handled at the state level!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@anorouch]

@@nunereclipsereborn I agree? Didn't I basically just say that?

[@droy9559]

A man defending abortion is weak and disgusting to be honest

[@raypurchase801]

As a British person watching from the UK, I can't understand what the f*ck this is about. I will shortly Google Roe v. Wade and wisen myself.

[@trevormurray617]

So roe v wade the biggest thing it done was federalize abortion law where it is supposed to be a state issue according to the 10th amendment. Overturning it does not make abortion illegal, all it does is return the decision to the states

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

It's about killing babies.

[@wizzyno1566]

So why comment on something you know nothing about?

[@tonker9338]

@@wizzyno1566 Cease the petulance.

[@wizzyno1566]

@@tonker9338 its not petulance, its a genuine question. Theres loads of stuff i know nothing about, i dont go around commenting on hundreds of videos saying "hey, i dont know anything about this subject". That would be silly.

[@jules151968]

Have these Women not heard of contraception or do they get off on destroying life.

[@misswinnie4.8]

Let us know when you figure it out. Some boast about 16 & 17 abortions.

[@colonelsmith7757]

There are women who have performed over a dozen abortions, yes, they do get off on it, and even if you don't care about the babies you should at least care about your wasted tax money.

[@addajjalsonofallah6217]

Accountability isn't something they do

[@4570Govt]

@@misswinnie4.8 When I road the bus to community college in my late teens and early 20s, there was a woman one day of darker complexion who was ranting at her (I'm guessing) boyfriend. She was belligerent as all get out, and I guess the argument centered around her desiring "to end it". He wanted the baby, but she didn't. "This ain't my first rodeo, and you ain't my first baby daddy I've had an abortion for" she screamed as she got off the bus. Let's just say all eyes on the bus were wide as saucers, and we all breathed a little heavier after hearing those words so gleefully exclaimed in a defensible sense of sheer pride. Sent chills down my spine listening to a woman see no value to a life inside her body as having zero value, plus she cemented that "it wasn't her first rodeo"... Still haunts me to this day...

[@LB-sk3vl]

Yes

[@Battlecat47]

Anytime one of my pro-choice friends is purposely pregnant I continue to remind them at regular intervals how they can get rid of it anytime they want. They really don’t like that. It’s only a life when it’s convenient to them.

[@chuckdavinci9044]

Legal until conception? So, not legal?

[@crinklecut3790]

Thanks to President Donald J Trump! Elections do have consequences. 😁👍

[@babywaves8877]

We should not slaughter babies in their mother's womb.

[@topsecretbear9918]

A great win for life. Also, the conservative justices wouldn't want more attention or for ppl to "get riled up" but the leftist justices sure would.

[@michaelvangundy226]

Personally I am against killing any future tax payer. I also find killing unwanted pregnancy as murder. But either way I don't believe the Government should be involved. I don't think that anyone has to explain to any other person why they want to kill their child. I can think of some reasons why I would do it. But keep the government out of our lives.

[@bnic9471]

@@michaelvangundy226 Truly. Ever look at a 19th-century country doctor's obstetric tools? A lot of them were for sectioning and extracting the fetus before it killed the mother. Abortion is as old as civilization. And as necessary. We don't need to codify abortion as lurking in the skirts of the constitution. My personal perspective is pro-life, having lost 7 children to habitual miscarriage. But that doesn't mean I want to condemn other mothers in trouble with the sledgehammer of the law.

[@ExtraChocolate80]

It was definitely a law clerk for the left Justices leaked this. 😐

[@bencunningham6298]

It was leaked by a liberal staffer

[@ianmedford4855]

Leftists sleep late... give it a few hours. They are going to go MENTAL.

[@sywxgy]

My thoughts on this is it should be states rights period. If SCOTUS overturns Roe vs. Wade and leaves it to the states to decide, I think this is great news. SCOTUS should only follow the constitution period.

[@wyle569]

Abortion is at it's lowest levels since early 1970's. State restrictions are part of it, so is the morning after pill. I use to audit these for a Company and in stores outside college campus they sell like skittles.

[@CountArtha]

Let's be honest: The main reason abortions happened in the 1970s was because white girls didn't want a mixed race baby

[@shortyorc121]

@CaptainAwesomesworld wtf you going on about?? The country is more degenerate then ever before.

[@nunereclipsereborn]

@CaptainAwesomesworld We need to stop Hookup Culture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@masterpassword2]

@@nunereclipsereborn We need proper sex-ed and freely availably contraception. You fckucking clown.

[@nunereclipsereborn]

@CaptainAwesomesworld We need to rebuild broken family unit structure and it's not religious to think nor believe in that.

[@blynkers1411]

SCIENCE!! ...Except in the case of Abortion, Covid, Welfare, Self-Esteem/Narcissism, tax&spend, sex-change, climate change, mail-in voting, the virtues of socialism/communism (and untempered capitalism too btw), popular atheism, Apple products, KZbin "safety" idiocracy, Bidenomics, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Religion isn't the only significant pocket of hypocrisy afflicting humanity.

[@ryan.1990]

So we have a country where abortion is illegal but giving kids hormone therapy is legal? What an absolute clown show

[@shortyorc121]

Gay marriage should be next. It's a state issue for sure.

[@justinwhite2725]

@@shortyorc121 its not though, because it's a federal program and the 14th amendment guarentee non descriminstion. Look, I'm gay and I first thought SCOTUS ruled badly, but after looking at the logic it actually scans. If marriage were only religious and had no civil benefits then yes, you'd be right. But because there are tax and inheritance issues it falls into the 14th amendment.

[@shortyorc121]

@@justinwhite2725 What discrimination do you face if gay marriage was banned?? oh right none. Your asking special privilege to get married to the same sex. You state the 14th amendment which is hilarious. Gay marriage has only been a thing for 7 years... so your saying they got it wrong all the way up to the mid 2010s lol. Nope it's a state issue.

[@juanduenas1943]

@@shortyorc121 Well put. The governments only interest in marriage has to do with procreation and nothing more.

[@wildcatdiva4974]

The opinion is not being “released” by the court. It was LEAKED. Big difference and quite the concern.

[@funkydiscogod]

Oh no! Not *gasp* transparency?

[@joe1940]

Whoever leaked this to the press has thrown away their legal career.

[@NemisCassander]

Or made it, depending...

[@NoPantsBaby]

Should be 9-0 but as always. The funny thing is... abortion isn't made illegal if it goes away.... that just means not banning abortion is no longer illegal.

[@kurama386able]

plus roe v Wade was passed illegally so in all rights all states could ignore roe v Wade because if you want abortion you have to amend the Constitution the courts don't make the laws

[@rustusandroid]

Respectfully, you can't separate abortion from it's moral underpinnings, since at the heart of the matter, we are talking about a human life. Arguably, a human life that is at it's most vulnerable state. You can certainly add the pragmatic arguments if you wish, but they are secondary.

[@squirrelyshirley7629]

Right? I've always believed that if we can be convinced to outright murder the weakest and most innocent then we can be convinced to do anything to anybody.

[@NemisCassander]

Agreed. If you don't know, you should study the etymology of the term 'economics', and find out how the ethics of the science was carefully expunged in the early 20th century to get the hellhole discipline we have today.

[@marlajacques6947]

Moral underpinnings in a immoral society. Wonder how the various states will scrap it out? Then maybe we’ll see where abhortians on the map make the biggest business $

[@masterpassword2]

It is life but not really human life. Lump of cells has no identity. The fetus, in the first trimester, doesn't even have a brain. It cannot be considered to be more human than a house plant. Sorry to ruin your fantasies with facts.

[@rustusandroid]

@@masterpassword2 Your just a clump of cells. At WHAT point exactly, does it become a human baby in your mind?

[@8thCavalry]

"It is a poverty of spirit that a child must die so that you may live as you want." St. Mother Teresa

[@k98killer]

I would support a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the individual right to bodily autonomy.

[@ericjohnson7234]

I agree

[@MaxMoon65]

Try this..ask Google if men can get pregnant,then ask Google HOW men get pregnant...funny shit indeed.

[@Airman1121]

Definitely did not expect this news when I woke up. Personally, I think it was long past time.

[@polishprince47]

You can Fool some people some of the time but you Can't Fool all the people all the time!! - Abraham Lincoln.

[@airinbone]

They hit the Left, then they hit the Right. Enrage one side then enrage the other side. They are trying for a reaction.

[@stephenknizek2651]

Bush appointee Alito and Bush appointee Roberts disagrees.

[@mariokarter13]

It's just a clump of words.

[@oz_jones]

Ha, funny. May you never be hit with a blue shell, friend.

[@daviddunn860]

The US let alone the whole world is in the shiter and this is what they're worried about

[@bnic9471]

Styx, you're not quite right about not reinvigorating many Democrats. This has been turned into an all-or-nothing wedge issue. While most people have a "tempered" opinion (as they should, if they are realistic), "Overturning Roe" long ago was turned into a verbal nuclear bomb. I've noticed even a lot of fundies are hollering "Thank you, Jesus!" as if axing Roe versus Wade changes much.

[@CountArtha]

Most of the red states will immediately ban abortion once they know it's not going to the Supreme Court, so this is definitely a win for the pro-life movement. _Roe v. Wade_ did more to protect abortion than regulate it.

[@chago4202000]

It shows a cultural shift, which is generally a big deal in a society.

[@alexandria1663]

Of course we’re ecstatic at the thought Roe could finally be overturned, the number of states with laws on the books set to ban abortion the moment it’s overturned is nothing to ignore.

[@reekinronald6776]

Agreed. Covid saved the Dems and this will save the Dems. If I. Didn't know better Satan seems to be on the side of Democrats.

[@somethingsomething8511]

Axing Roe v Wade makes abortion illegal in nearly half the country. I'd put that in the "changes much" category

[@polishprince47]

Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got out of hand fast. - Ron Burgundy

[@marsmars9130]

I believe it should be a States decision and a States Vote by its people! I also know that it is a terrible decision to take a Babies life one that you will regret and be haunted by for you entire life

[@phoenixobrien163]

*Tickle Me Elmo Dept.* This leaked draft reminds me of a very scared SCOTUS what buys a white cashmere sweater at a very steep discount because there's a defect on it in the form of a tiny red dot. The trio winds up under George's desk at work nervously sticking their hand out offering the sweater to Elaine's boyfriend who is off the wagon (a euphemism for the Rabid Right.)

[@neondystopian]

Is going to a convenience store to get condoms really so inconvenient? Don't we hand out birth control like candy?

[@NoMorePlz]

I'm fine with people not reproducing. I just don't want to have to pay for it.

[@JoaoSilva-gm8qx]

@@NoMorePlz you can't pay for condoms? How can you even pay for dates. Gosh, women really set the bar low with american men.

[@RNA0ROGER]

Condoms used right are 98% effective if used properly and the implant is pretty much perfect. Pregnancy is a choice has been since 1990

[@addajjalsonofallah6217]

They do provide benefits outside of preventing pregnancy as well so they are a benefit to society as a whole interestingly enough

[@albi7110]

Pull out.. its free

[@AvoidsPikes-]

They should just throw it to the states. Boom, done. Each state already has its own laws concerning marriage, alcohol, and lottery ticket purchases.

[@lunarero]

I can’t sleep. This situation is too much! Stop killing babies!!

[@misswinnie4.8]

Me too

[@britpackdog4545]

You'd think contraception had never been invented

[@heathernikki5734]

They're not babies

[@jobob9643]

Ricky Berwick changed my mind on abortion. "well what if they are defective?!" well who are you to decide their life would be shit.

[@maxinemoo6972]

This is all to start crap.

[@bongscott3738]

Yup.

[@sb-tb1ld]

Abortion is child sacrifice. Before they offered their child at the altar of Moloch in hope of good fortune. Now they offer their child to the alter of themselves in hope of good fortune.

[@Gitn2it]

I am hoping someone develops a safe, effective and cheap birth control pill for men. If men can control conception, abortions will drop significantly.

[@chago4202000]

The generations coming up now already have less sex than any of us before.

[@seansezz]

Men can't get pregnant. If a woman doesn't want a baby but still wants to be raging cock gobbler she can sell all her eggs to someone who wants them.

[@yellowsnowman9157]

Killing less babies is controversial in America. What a weird place to be in.

[@seantyler7401]

Styx, did you notice the new Pfizer docs dropped last night at the same time of this leak?

[@fatefinger]

I’m really hoping Styx your are not in support of late stage third trimester abortion or abortion up to delivery like that far left is.

[@Carandini]

Had the leftists not kept pushing and pushing to the point where their interpretation of abortion means inarguable infanticide, I could sympathize. But, no, they had to push it to the point where a viable offspring that can survive outside its mother can legally be left to die on a table. I'm not even one of those who plays the 'when does life begin' argument, but once you've got a baby at that stage of development, it's a person. Sorry, Becky, but you waited too long to make a choice at that point.

[@sashadog4142]

I find it hard to believe, Tarl, that as a father, you can look at your child and think, "if mommy murdered you in the womb it should be legal". What a lack of growth and humanity.

[@phoenixobrien163]

*Stop with the simple-minded Hallmark card tear jerker baloney. You are using a brainwashing technique.*

[@sashadog4142]

@@phoenixobrien163 stop supporting murder. The simple minded smooth brained people like you support murder.

[@erynlasgalen1949]

That is because, as much as we love our children, there are some situations where it is more ethical and kind to the child to stop a pregnancy in its earliest stage. I had three siblings who were basically born dying of a hereditary condition. They suffered. We all suffered. Some people are not able to be fit parents. Those are the ones who will abort, and frankly the child suffers more in the long run from a neglectful or abusive parent. My spouse and I suffered a miscarriage early on, about two weeks after confirmation of the pregnancy. What passed looked rather like a garden slug. It was a potential human being, but not yet, and Nature decided otherwise. A year and a half later, we had our son, whom we love dearly but would not have conceived had the first one been born.

[@phoenixobrien163]

@@erynlasgalen1949 -- And yet these Religious Right hysterics would have had those three siblings born, and either you caring for them , or the taxpayers. That's as far as Religious ethics extend.

[@phoenixobrien163]

@@erynlasgalen1949 -- I forgot the most important -- and indeed these unfortunately innocents *do suffer a lifelong suffering.*

[@michaellowery4162]

How's your viable tissue mass doing?

[@fersuremaybek756]

sort of sounds like women don't want to take responsibility proving that yes they still are just grown children wanting to be looked after for everything.

[@GreyRock100]

Accountability is kryptonite to women.

[@AfroGaz71]

Look at the amount of single parent family's. The men ain't so great when it comes to responsibility either. Lighten up on the misogyny and try and understand there is multiple issues at play.

[@lorieakin5771]

Wear a condom.

[@lorieakin5771]

@@GreyRock100 wear a condom.

[@morelikesmoko9926]

found the incel

[@jeffinphx517]

The clerk who leaked this should be disbarred.

[@ExaltedDuck]

The way I see it, this feels like misdirection. It will grab a whole lot of attention and people will be making a lot of noise about it. But ultimately, in the grand scheme of things, it's probably not all that major of a thing. So what else might be happening in the world that would otherwise maybe be getting noticed around now? Economy? Ukraine? 2nd amendment issues? Something else?

[@killacamfoo]

State's right should be right up your alley, Styx.

[@cfarina5470]

Don’t fall for it, it’s a distraction from 2000 mules being released yesterday.

[@malicant123]

I've never been against abortion, but I'm happy for this as I will enjoy the harpy tears.