Dragon Age Veilguard Review Is It Really That Bad?

[@rpjames8]

Someone just corrected me. Fenris didnt shun me because he didnt like my female Hawk, but because she was mage opressor. Fenris likes both 8==D and puss 🐱.

[@Raydr62]

The end to that statement LMAOO pretty sure the only companions that canonically has had a same sex relationship in DA2 are isabella and Anders. Anders best friend was his actual lover until he was made tranquil and isabella gets around

[@zvonimirstejskal2252]

You mean because she WASN'T mage opressor. Fenris is all about opressing mages

[@RpgGuyVerified]

Just my insight with games in general but we all have the right to play videogames the way we see fit...no one should tell you otherwise and thats just facts can't argue with that no matter what you say or do in some ways its like an art, right up until some big shot changes that into something potentially worse that can worsen what made that art enjoyable for others

[@Lostjayyhawk]

No one cares.

[@RpgGuyVerified]

@Lostjayyhawk Now Think about it... if no one cared you wouldn't be saying that its common sense just try seeing the positives in whats wrong with games because you shouldn't go around saying hateful sounding stuff like that on KZbin just my honest thoughts and if you dont like it that's fine ignore this comment reply with more hate if you must idc even if i have to keep replying in comments that there wrong just for the fun of it since were not just wrong but right in every way such is the misconcepted disregarded way of the importance of positive thinking so you do you i do me problem solved we all go free but goodday friend 👍

[@skechij5856]

I’m a very progressive person, but the 5+ minute cutscene that was essentially a lecture on respecting gender identity that came out of absolutely nowhere blew my mind. I’ve never seen a more clumsy example of a “turn to camera”.

[@fruitsalad3259]

I'm non binary and I genuinely hated the pronoun scene AND the dinner with the character's mom. It was so forced and why the hell would a fantasy game have OUR gender terms?????

[@sd5919]

@@fruitsalad3259 That's what got me. Why didn't they create new terms for the sake of world building? Even in this world other cultures had different terms for this in history. It's bizarre writing.

[@Lostjayyhawk]

So what I'm saying is bigoted if I don't define as non binary? Even if we agree

[@Felled-angel]

​​@@fruitsalad3259 did you ever think that it's natural to feel different to everyone else? For example I can't imagine anyone experiences things the same way I do but yet I understand i am a men and expect to be addressed as such so have you ever considered you've been lead down a rabbit hole? Everybody is different, just like everybody else.

[@kalexander1981]

​@@Felled-angel lmao trying to do conversion therapy in a KZbin comment section

[@ChuckNorris100000]

Let’s expand on that leaf analogy. Let’s say you do like green leaf. You like green leaves because you’ve had green leaves before, green leaf “3”. you wait a decade for green leaf “4”. And when it came out, it isn’t a leaf, it’s a pink plastic thing they painted green, and called green leaf “4”. It’s not green leaf “4” man.

[@rpjames8]

@@ChuckNorris100000 I didnt know the analogy could work so well. You just improved it.

[@Lostjayyhawk]

That analogy was stupid

[@SuggonDeezNutzzz]

@@Lostjayyhawkyeah bro stupid good #amirite

[@trueetiquette]

It's one of those games that you don't even consider pirating

[@thegrumpyraccoon]

The more clips I see, there are more instances where it messes with the preestablished lore. For example, in this game both Ferelden and Orlais are ruined. Just because. God forbid they could have a line that everything is fine because your Warden is a Chancellor or Prince-Consort. Generally great game for people who want to turn off their heads and brainrot with shiny stuff on screen, but is an affront to all previous Dragon Age games, with exception being Trespasser dlc.

[@RpgGuyVerified]

We forget there is still hope for a beta rework if it means saving this game and i really hope so as a long time dragon age fan

[@XKS99]

Its not hate so much as disgust

[@Lostjayyhawk]

Cant wait for the video a few years from now when this game actually breaks even financially

[@cynicalnoloc5122]

Thanks for the nuanced review; tired of the same talking points coming up. Appreciate you❤

[@rekle5739]

Yes it does. It deserves more hate tbh than what its already got.

[@tombloem1]

Watching plenty of KZbinrs throughout the years - you're my first instant bell notifications. What an honest and fair review. Thank you 💙

[@austintaylor1378]

I bought it. Played it. It’s awful. It disrespects you in every way as an experienced dragon age player and really an rpg lover in general. I’m not mad about the obvious trans binary stuff it’s actually very little in the game. You can’t sit there and say this game belongs in the same room as their previous dragon age games, the Witcher, BG3 , Skyrim, Persona, ect. You simply cannot this is the most watered down and useless dialogue I’ve seen in a game. I uninstalled after killing the two dragons. After I saw the little emotion thing again for the game to let me know how someone was feeling as they were telling me how they were feeling I literally said to myself “I’m 34 fkn years” Childish and a joke. This is supposed to be the finale. The end. The culmination of 3 games worth of choices all thrown away … I’m disgusted and if you say you like this game it’s just cuz you didn’t care about dragon age really at all. Or you just have no taste and enjoy the mindlessness railroad you’re on as a player. Could’ve been a game that made me cry instead I’m left bitter… 4/10 terrible writing, bad art design for cosmetics, lack of choice, lack of depth in every sense of the word. The worlds themselves are gorgeous and the layouts are fun. The puzzles: can we call them that? Just don’t have that shit it’s a cheap way to reduce the run through your map not to challenge me. Combat is simple, so bright I can barely see what’s happening and the enemies have no weight or variety to them. Attack the same, super easy to read. I kept having ti adjust the difficulty to not be too hard(take too long not difficulty) and immersion so I don’t feel ridiculous. Never got it right. All the boss fight cut scenes were longer than the fights of 30 seconds or less until the next obvious phase. Another head! Wow you’re wild! Joke of a game

[@jootpepet]

What's really sad about this is that we'll never get a proper, well-founded conclusion to the DA series. This was it.

[@MsRafaelRGO]

People have a hard time separating Taste from quality, to the people that say they are enjoying the game (they never provide any metric for criticism, they just "Like") i just tell them "some people like cliker heroes, liking something isn't a metric for quality"....It would be nice if people realise that it's ok to like things that are "trash" like...boy band music, or C movies (Sharknator) for exemple, but it becames a problem when they try to argue "quality" to those things.

[@jootpepet]

@@MsRafaelRGO these are the same people who swear that the game of the year, the game that has 96%(600,000) positive reviews is "boring" 😆

[@viniciosmartins1279]

And everything you said is completely understandable, but it is your OPINION, based on your TASTE. That's what people can't understand. The dialogue is VERY cliche at various times, and this can either be very annoying (as it did to you) or it can, like me, be overlooked. Because other parts of the game are very good. The main story is excellent, even with the weak dialogue. I would obviously like to see Origins-level dialogue in this game, especially with this story. We had some great lines from Solas, but that's it. However, the game doesn't deserve all this hate, and a good part of it, certainly more than 90% of it, comes from people with clear prejudices. Again, your comment and point is completely acceptable, as long as you emphasize that this is your taste. The game just isn't for you. But for you to say that it is not Dragon Age, and the game as a whole is clearly superior to DA2 in all aspects, belittles your comment.

[@MsRafaelRGO]

@@viniciosmartins1279 na, This isn't a good product, objectivly speaking, some things are not a matter of opnions. let me put this way, you can say u like combat that has too many "flash" effects on screen or you can say u don't like, but you can't deny that it cluster the screen making hard to see other elements, you can say you like the story, or dislike, but you can't argue that is not an chieldish story, full of boring tropes and complete predictable in every aspect of it, you can guess the outcome of the story just by the initial gameplay trailer, and the game doesn't throw a single curve ball at you, ever. You can like/or not the companious (and Rook) but you can't argue that they have any depth, they a superficial characters that strugle to even justify their presence in the story, they go along just for the sake of going along, from the start all it's "We need your help to save the world" and they all jump in the wagon...i could go on with every single aspect of this product and provide actual arguments to why it's not a "good" product without ever saying if i liked or not. (save from the technical aspect, the game does run very smooth.) This is such meh game that i'm honestly starting to think that they put the LGBT stuff there just to be able to wave off the criticism for the game many flaws (put my tin foil hat on)

[@thiagoantunes2856]

The writting isn't bad? Damn... I'm really not coming back to your reviews if you actually think the writting isn't bad.

[@rpjames8]

@@thiagoantunes2856 I really want to address this, because I think it was not clear enough. No, the writting is not bad. I still don't like it, like many people, but it is not bad. Solas is eloquent, Mythal and Morrigan too, so too is Emmrich. They feel like knowledged characters that express ideas with thought. The main narrative and argument between the companions follows the afore mentioned "the real dragon age was the friends we made along the way" everything is cheerful, lighthearted, and even too happy to the point of cringe (and cringe is also a bias, you might feel cringe on something, that someone else doesnt, it's your opinion). It is nothing at all like a Dragon Age. And I don't like it. But it's not bad.

[@johndeighan2495]

No. It is bad. What is the point of dialogue? (1) to progress the story / relationship in some way (2) to reveal something about the speaker’s inner state. DA:V sometimes fails to do either. And when it succeeds, it is always done in an extremely ham fisted way. The writers of this game have little to no understanding of subtext. Characters just blurt out plot points, often repeatedly. They just blurt out their inner states, often without any setup. I’ve watched hours of it on stream and it’s mostly substandard. Here and there, it can be decent. But that’s as good as it gets

[@rpjames8]

@@johndeighan2495 I've not "watched" hours of content. I played 100 hours, of it. Granted, and I agree. The only one that feels odd sometimes is Rook, often not saying what you want to say, making difficult to bond with a main character that's already stablished as a base, and not giving the player the chance to express his own rook. I don't like that either. But that's the character's voice and narrative. Which was exposed and exemplified on review. As for the writting. I'll exemplify better. And I quote: "I cannot fathom how such a malady would invade this gentle heart [...] It would've taken extraordinary skill to layer the involutions on this artifact (Sighs). What a waste of talent!". -Emmrich. Dragon Age The Veilguard (2024). A small fragment I took from the many in game like that. Still, the overall portrayal remains happy, cheerful, enthusiastic. And that, I do not like. It still doesnt make it bad.

[@Lostjayyhawk]

​​​@@rpjames8 Everything Taash is in is completely horrible. When I was following it the party was meh, but when "they/them" joins it is awful.. almost like some writer was inserting themselves in the story...oh wait..one of the writers is exactly that I don't think you know what objective and subjective mean

[@abc4781]

Can't handle an opinion that's opposite of your own?

[@meimphisto]

I really wanted to like the game but the whole dialogues feels like like I'm watching a crappy sitcom comedy tv show. The story itself is good(because it stays true to Dragon Age lore) but when the characters open their mouths everything goes down the drain.The combat is repetitive and boring,the itemization and cosmetics were also meh,the builds felt mediocre. The game is around 5-5.5/10 for me just because its truly what AAA game should be like,good graphics with great optimization,good sound design,very little bugs and the movement and inputs are responsive but everything else about the game is mediocre or bad.

[@yowza2404]

am currently playing the game and enjoying it idc what ppl say .

[@beardsloan]

Same 💯

[@MsRafaelRGO]

Some people like Clicker hero, liking something isn't a metric for quality, in fact is complete normal (and all right) to like things that are "trash", exemple: poetry soiree, C horror movies (sharknator), Amateur Rap battles, Fanfics (Dragon Age Veilguard).

[@joshuamidgette4846]

Why did the ads all look like a mobile game? Nothing like the previous Dragonage games. I will buy a copy when it goes on sale.

[@DaVinci-wt6dp]

I'm like 25 hours in and other than some elves being asian or black, I literally haven't experienced anything "woke" yet. Granted, I haven't really gotten into Taash's story, so unless the next 40--60 hours (or however long left I have) is just 90% disabled non binary lesbians of colour, the woke coverage has been WAY overblown. Based on the coverage of this game you'd think every ingame cutscene was some leftist propaganda. HOWEVER, I will say the dialogue overall has been either very average, to downright terrible at times. It also doesn't really have any of the meaningful choices of previous bioware titles so far so that's a disappointing. Overall, a somewhat disappointing DA game so far, decent game overall.

[@Dumbledoresarmy13]

Seems like its mostly Taash having some cringy or awkward dialogue that feels like lines are missing. But the aesthetic and the writing tone are probably gonna tip it one way or another for most.

[@palegod]

It's about 80% contained within Taash's "story" ... which isn't really a story, it's just Patrick Weekes the degenerate inserting himself into the game, not just with wokeness but also shitting all over the established Qunari lore. The dialogues are so on the nose with 2020's mental-illness-speak that they're fourth wall breaking. There's an actual lunatic manifesto that they bothered to write out in a codex entry. And unlike previous BioWare games where they would have let you just not recruit a character they know a lot of people will find insufferable (i.e. Zevran) you have no choice here. On top of that, they also locked the game's arena behind doing Taash's quests. Taash is so bad that it's not overblown in the slightest. Another 10% is in the cringy-as-fuck (even for BioWare's "standards") romances, and the rest is just sprinkled around the world.

[@pontiuspilates]

I don't know... I have 30+ hours in this game and I really like it. The combat is phenomenal, locations are gorgeous, varied and very interesting to explore. Skill trees are very very good. Even the story gets much more interesting before the end of the 1 act. It runs buttery smooth on my older PC and the graphics are very pretty. There's tons of content but it doesn't feel boring like in AC games, for example. Some side quests are okay-ish but some are really good. There are no dumb fetch quests, which I like. I haven't found much of the "aGeNdA" besides the pronouns selection in the character creator. And the puzzles do seem simple, but later they get much more interesting and varied. I feel this is a very solid 8/10 game. Now about the old DA games? Well, to be honest I don't remember much, because the first one came out 15 years ago, it's very hard to compare... And they feel so dated nowadays. Pretty sure most of the crybabies were toddlers back then. So I don't know, drama for the sake of drama. Perhaps it's a GEN-Z thing to cry about everything...

[@ninaborosova8907]

It's mostly taash, I got my first non binary stuff at 25+ ish hours, but I'm pretty much ignoring taash cause I didn't like her teenager-rude attitude from her first quest. But later on it's also in the main story quest, so you kinda cannot avoid it. You just didn't get there yet I guess :D

[@frankcayseron8637]

@@ninaborosova8907 its bellara for me. every time she opens her mouth i feel like cutting myself. Taash is clearly product of agenda but bellara is just plain retarded. created to promote stupidity. "participation trophy energy" would be high praise for bellara. 90% of her dialogues is "oh i dont know, this and that". she is talking like a brain dead egirl

[@pontiuspilates]

@@ninaborosova8907 I know what you're talking about. But idk, if you grew up to have horns, a six pack, wrestler's arms and 100+ kg of weight with a v*gina nestled somewhere in between and still forced to wear cocktail dresses by your mom, I wouldn't be surprised if you were on the fence of being a woman or a man. The wording they use for this particular part is a little cringey, but I always look at the context. And the context doesn't bother me at all. Actually, feels pretty human to be honest.

[@beardsloan]

The only real gripe I have is that I wish the quests had a recommended character level, other than that, I have not been able to put the game down since I bought it last thursday

[@mes4ever2000]

User Steam Reviews are not an indicator if products are good or not. A positive user review from a verified purchase indicates that was right to buy products. A negative user review indicates the user should not have purchased the product and Pro Viewers failed to steer the person away from buying the products. In perfect work, 100% of verified purchase User reviews would be positive. Not cuz the product is good cuz the people who didn't enjoy the product were steered away from buying it. It's companies marketing department's job to sell its products and it is Pro Reviews' job to steer people away from buying products they wouldn't enjoy. And some pro Reviews do a better job at this than others.

[@Lostjayyhawk]

The fact you have to quell people's concerns about the weird agenda, sexuality and woke stuff if a symptom that a lot games actually do this. Why would someone want to spend 70 on a game thats broken, incomplete or woke asf? The fact you have to preface this review is a sign the game industry is sick.

[@superhumantrueman]

The game isn't broke or incomplete and the woke stuff is over hyped.

[@bandmanjason9479]

​@superhumantrueman there should never be top surgery scars and non binary quest arc in a game where people wish to escape reality. Not to mention someone projecting their entire trauma story into a character

[@Unworshipediety]

Woke? Who cares. People want to be included, so include them that's the way of the world now, quit being a crazy bigot. Otherwise, you just invite hate and screw that. But yeah, the game itself... it's just too shiny for a dragonage game. I'm gonna wait for a sale. It's just so cheerful? Yuck, I expect fun but it's just all the reviews have been saying that there is a serious lack of grimdark stuff. :'( That is what saddens me.

[@superhumantrueman]

@@bandmanjason9479 Lol you know you don't HAVE to use them right? I didn't. Sounds pretty frail to complain about options you can choose to ignore.

[@bandmanjason9479]

@superhumantrueman i chose to ignore them too. By not funding their game

[@garybond3316]

Nice to see a decent well made review of the game and not just people crying because of a non binary character.

[@dynaelder5037]

Thanks. I was torn with this game. One minutes I felt like buying it the next I didn't. Now after watching this vid I think I will wait for a sale.

[@RealYoutube33]

Playing first hour. Huge dragon age fan. Visualy great 10/10. Gameplay and being a gamer 6/10 and worst dragon age game play ever.

[@TheGeekazoid]

rubbish game as soon as I saw the trailers I knew I wasn't going to play this... Not going to play and really not bothered missing it... cookie cutter Disney looking bullshit that isn't no Dragon Age

[@wawho9645]

I’ve enjoyed this game a lot, combat is fun, story is good, 60 hours in and maybe I’m just oblivious to it but haven’t come across any of that trans stuff folks have been screaming hate about. Not dark like DAO, and no brilliantly written and acted characters like BG3, but those are both exceptional, standard-breaking games. In short, not a world-changing game but lots of fun to play.

[@Raydr62]

I think at its worse its a decent RPG, just not an amazing dragon age game. Its a technical marvel without DRM, which in todays age is almost a miracle. Runs well on every console, runs well on PC. its story is pretty average Combat is fun Some companions are absolute hits, mainly Bel Darvin and Emmerich. Lucarnis is fine but he feels a LOT like zevran, Neve is fine but I dont enjoy the noir detective route in any game so I don't care for her much, Taash is way to brash (actively don't like them, which is a shame) and I never liked harding in the first place so I'm biased lol The game is pretty too look at The only issue is it feels like dragon age-lite. This would of been a fine spin off game to get people into the series but to be the ending to a giant story arc thats been going on for the last 3 games is what I think makes it a bit off putting. 7/10. its not bad, is a pretty good game in its ownright. -3 for being not that good of a dragon age and me not enjoying two of the companions

[@jaykhan3191]

As someone who played every DA game but this one, it feels like the story lost its weight. And that may very well be a reflection of the priorities of who is working on the title currently as opposed to who was at bioware 10+ years ago. I'd also guess that the newer bioware employees don't care as much about the integrity of the previous titles as its not their work and reflective of them and their views. It sucks that I'm not even motivated to complete a story that has existed in my life for about 15 years. At the end of the day, BioWare is a company with employees who cycle in and out. There's no getting the old Dragon Age back.

[@renaudfilippi2599]

An RPG ? lol

[@Raydr62]

@@renaudfilippi2599 you can lol me all you want but it still is an RPG. Decently in depth skill system, you can make different builds and different gear interacts with that. Different story choices

[@Trodai2020]

The issue with game is the choices won’t make a difference in the end game. I speed run the game under 11 hours. 💯 the game 53 hours. I am still currently playing dragon age origins new vampire mod is better that was just released recently. I rank the game a c. No night mother,no thieves guild, ect.. the story is linear and you can’t really be evil and the romance scenes aren’t that great compared to the other dragon age games. At face value game is a 30.00 dollar game not 70.00. I will be honest I only replayed the game 2 times just to get all end game endings. It honestly pissed me off because no matter what solace just walks into the void no matter what.

[@starrius]

i'm going to disagreee with a lot of what you say in this video. i'm currently 25 hours in and i'm really enjoying it. while the combat brings nothing new compared to other games. i've been really enjoying it and as someone who plays a lot off rpgs i've been enjoying not having to micro manage my companions and feel i've probably enjoyed this more than some of the older games. the story can seema bit paint by numbers but then i don't think i've seen a game in the last 5 or so years that didn't feel like this, and yes this does include BG3, the itemisation is not the best but it's servieable and i do like that overall it doesn't make it a looter type game

[@SleepyDeer-bi1vs]

They used this game to trama dump for no reason. I play medieval rpg game to be a fucking asshole. I play them tk be as evil as possible, because in real life I'm to fucking nice and get walked on, so why the hell would i want rpg medival fantasy game to represent any part of this modren society we all play games to escape reality

[@lifeofanarchaeologist]

Fenris isn't gay. You can romance him as a female.

[@RumblesBettr]

That rambling out a green or yellow leaf was rough.. if u have to explain how you are unbiased you arent…

[@Dooger414]

"Let me preface this by saying I am progressive..." Heads up, the normies aren't the ones calling you anything. The Taash's of the world; however, already put 'bigot' on your tombstone. But please, keep catering to the embalmers.

[@Dumbledoresarmy13]

I made a female Hawke in DA2 and she romanced Fenris, so he was definitely bi, lol

[@danielhultenius5506]

Yes

[@lordehgvii2598]

At this point in my life, with kids and and too little time to fully immerse myself in a rpg, I'm mainly just after a fun power fantasy where I can sling magic via a decent combat system for an hour or two before bed. This looks like it could be that

[@edsonandrade.person]

Same here. And so far it is the best Dragon Age for me. Polished, optimized, with graeat presentation and excelent gameplay and combat. Much more focused on good and fewer quests. Goodbye to meaningless fetch quests to expand an "open world" map) , goodbye to having to change to each member of your party or going to a pedantic tactical view just to issue a simple command for a specific ability. Goodbye to having to spam boring basic attacks while waiting for abilities cooldown. This game is a clear improvement on many areas. And I couldn't care less for optional gender related aspects/quests or perfect "writing" and text interactions, things that people are pretending to be so crucial just to hate on a great game. If I want top quality writing I don't look at videogames (with rare excpetions). If you're like me, go ahead and play this game. You won't be disappointed.

[@AKABoondock19]

must feel great to capitalize off the bastardization of a once deep rpg series

[@Dooger414]

I'd recommend the PREVIOUS games then. Do those first and then really consider if Veilguard is going to enhance or diminish your taste for the series... Just for consideration.

[@zachb8012]

Why would someone spend $70 on this slop when there are such better options for a, "fun power fantasy where I you can sling magic via a decent combat system for a few hours before bed"? You like overpaying for the video game with mid combat and the writing of an after school special? You have weird taste, but you do you. I mean... you could just pay a fraction of the price for Origins and play a GOOD game, or even Inquisition if you don't want to turn your brain on.

[@Needcoffeenow682]

Comment sections can be so funny… most of them breakdown to … this is my opinion followed by another comment about your opinion is wrong and this is my opinion is right. 2 categories opinion and facts and facts will always win out in the end… question? Does this game feel like a dragon age dark fantasy like the first 3? Fact… it’s doesn’t end of review

[@kbnga90]

Performance is good. Art is not my cup of tea, but by no means not gorgeous. Combat is great. Story gets better the further you get in. Non-binary story sucks, just skip the dialogue cause it's really cringe and painful to watch. If this game wasn't titled dragon age, people would've really liked it lol.

[@Evilysilly74]

I really like DA VG - am having a lot of fun with it. I think to enjoy this game you have to not get hung up on the fact that it is not dark and gritty like the other DA games. You have to not have preconceptions going in based on what KZbinrs are saying out there just to get more views, where they are hitting the negatives of the game way to hard. You have to not think that every game is supposed to be as deep and compelling as Baldurs Gate 3. You have to like playing a good guy character, and not be hung up on the fact that the game doesn't let you be a "bad guy"..... What Dragon Age Veil Guard is a fun, fast paced, action RPG, with stunning environments, fantastic combat, pretty good story, and bug free. Lets not forget how many games over the past 10 years have released a buggy/laggy mess. DA VG is a technical achievement worthy of praise in modern gaming.

[@frankcayseron8637]

what you call achievement worthy of praise should actually be standard or default state of game. this attitude is step backwards. with this logic in few years we will commend games for still allowing us to name our characters. releasing game that is buggy is unnaceptable behavior. that does not mean we need to bend over and praise game ot heavens just cause its not buggy. Although i have to agree with everything you said about game aside the bugs thing. I still dont like they used dragon age legacy to release this game. worst of all, if they just made brand new game and made it into this it would sell better because main hate the game is having is because this is NOT what DRAGON AGE should be. so ironically they tried to use the dragon age fame for better sales but that only ended up backfiring. they went from elven slavery and racism towards dalish to bellara dropping priceless and ancient artifact just to show how stupid and useless she is and from sten and arishock from da2 to taash. its embarasing what they did to dragon age legacy but you are correct, if you take dragon age out of dragon age veilguard and just focus on what it is (basically just forget you playing dragon age game) and its really not bad at all

[@beardsloan]

I have bought every single dragonage game day one since their incarnation. I've not let a review sway me. I had no idea it was even getting hate until I saw your thumbnail. All that to say, I am enjoying this game immensely.

[@rpjames8]

@@beardsloan That's what really matters in the end. I wish I would have enjoyed it as much. But I am really glad you are!

[@edsonandrade.person]

Same here. So far, this is the best one for me. Let's see if it holds. But, regardless, a great game.

[@Nodnarb59]

​@@edsonandrade.person 😂

[@edsonandrade.person]

@@Nodnarb59 🤣

[@neworleansmade504]

I played all dragon age games I hope y'all right I'm bout to buy it

[@neonstream6935]

It feels like it had all the cool shight, the great story (the telling is so dark love that guys voice) But then the ppl who gave a shight left and then they had to tie all the loose ends and filled it with all the shight talked about today…. Also, nothing against the voice actors…but I cannot stand the female voices …just…why the hell do I want to sound like a pubescent man just filling in the rest of his mustachios with permanent marker who’s also the fool who screamed with Creed all night long?? I WANNA SOUND DAINTY DAMN IT!!!

[@chuckchan4127]

The dialog is so bad and tries to force HR DEI crap down your throught.

[@hineighbor]

So you're saying you're easily offended

[@dezzedd9293]

@@hineighbor its the culmination of it all the whole aaa industry its an infection it is forced it is unnatural

[@StrawberryEnjoyer2137]

@@hineighbor damn, a ''no, you" burn. impressive job wokie lol

[@fuzzyalpaca4727]

Throat

[@Lostjayyhawk]

​@@hineighbormaga 2024

[@Cosmic-Gecko66]

In all honesty, I've smashed through every dragon age without really using the tactical command functions. I only ever set up what skills my people would use and left them to it. The game itself isn't bad, the dialogue isn't the worst I've seen, the best party member is Bellara by far as she has the most personality, and the combat isn't a completely generic action RPG but it's close. The story isn't as bad as I thought from what people made out, it will be interesting to see how much the strength of allies and who you choose for the options at the end play out. I've learned to accept that studios and games change direction, and I'm okay with that. My biggest issue in this game is that the number of ways to change the world is very limited. It's pretty much 2 playthroughs to experience every major change that can happen. I do like that each faction you choose has separate dialogue in certain situations, and it can change some options in the games.

[@jootpepet]

I'm curious, what game do you think has worse dialogue than this?

[@Cosmic-Gecko66]

@jootpepet First of all I will say it's probably opinion, and I can't remember dialogue from all of the games I've played over the years. If I could remember all of the dialogue from games on N64 and original PlayStation onwards it would be a much bigger list as I have played a lot of good and trash games over the years. But more specifically in recent games. 1. I wasn't impressed with either of the Elex games. 2. Forspoken didn't have great dialogue. 3. Mass Effect Andromeda. 4. Saints Row reboot. Just to name a few.

[@neonlightcabasag4043]

Andromeda was bad but at least it was in a different galaxy so it wasn't disrespectful to previous entries, the story was just a bland coming-of-age copy-paste of Shephard's. Veilguard however, connects to DA:Inquisition which is reeling from the aftermath of so many major events, such as the mage/templar war, the death of the chantry divine, the attempted assassination and installment of the new Orleian royalty, and the appointment of a new divine, plus a looming threat of the qunari invading due to the breach, the reorganization of the grey wardens, etc... none of that connects to this game. Veilguard disregards and diminishes so many lore-critical events while making Solas, an undying immortal who imprisoned the old elven Gods, and the guy who could control the anchor by just glowing his eyes, look like a total pushover who is btw absent most of the game. Not to mention the real-world crap they sprinkle in to make sure whoever plays knows what nonbinary is and how people should behave towards them, which by the way is a concept and terminology that does not fit in a medieval dark fantasy setting. All previous ME and DA games had lgbt elements and characters but those worked because they felt natural, just in the background like how you would not think about straight people but here, why was put so much emphasis on it, with the term too, I didn't care Iron bull or sera was lgbt but here I have to sit through this real-world issue when the veil is about to be torn down and the current world ending? Nah bro This is much much worse in the story dept. than ME:A and Andromeda had very fun gameplay too, which this game's mechanics are probably based on. I'm glad you can enjoy it without thinking about the story misalignment and disrespect but for me, without the story, I can't really get behind the game, it becomes just another mindless build slog and just click till the next bullet sponge dies, might as well clear again BWM or Ghost of Tsushima, at least those have original uncompromised stories still. Subpar writers butchered the story and so therefore killed the franchise.

[@WrathOfTheShaft]

​@@neonlightcabasag4043culture vulture

[@Cosmic-Gecko66]

@neonlightcabasag4043 I agree that the forced interaction around what non-binary is and how they should be treated isn't necessary for the game at all. However, a lot of the conversations in this are so short that it doesn't phase me in the slightest. In terms of the connection between Veilguard and Inquisition, it's a very tenuous connection at best. The fact Solas is doing the ritual in the north, a few characters, some missives about the south, and the fact the Inquisitor gets very slightly involved at the end. Why they even bothered to include the choice to set up how things went in DA Inquisition is beyond me. Mass Effect is a different galaxy, Veilguard is the north of Thedas. As much as you can forgive Mass Effect I can forgive Veilguard. It's not the ending I wanted after putting up with the hours of used time in Inquisition waiting for war table tasks. The fact the Inquisitor never even gets to finish the job annoys me more than anything about the actual game. The north and south of Thedas aren't connected in any other ways though, you could just as easily go back to the south. What are they going to do in the next Mass Effect? If you finished 3 by wiping out the reapers who is the next enemy? You can't be Shepherd anymore due to the cost of wiping out the reapers. I made the geth allies in the end so where does it go? As much as it annoys me stories have to end, and they didn't go about it the right way but that won't change now. I've finished the story involving any old characters, if they make another game which the ending implies they will, then they may as well start again with all new characters and a brand new story. Also differences of opinion but I personally thought that Andromeda gameplay sucked compared to any previous ME game. This isn't the DA game I wanted, it's not the finish to the story I wanted, but I wanted to finish the story. Hopefully, if they make another one they will make adjustments but I'm not relying on that because EA are involved. I've seen enough with FIFA and EAFC to know that EA doesn't give a damn, if I could force them to sell the studios or IP I would. They won't though, they will just close the studio and keep the IP never to be seen again. I'm only forgiving to a degree because I want the Dragon Age universe to keep going, mess up with the game again and I'm gone it's that simple with me. As a last point, unfortunately the toxic society we live in is what causes this sort of issue. Everyone attacks each other over identity, or lawsuits are brought because a group isn't included, and it's nuts to me that everybody wants to be right. As a society, we have tied ourselves in knots trying to find answers that don't exist. There will always be division and subjective opinions, there will always be conflicts between us as people because we are all different and we all have ideas about how things should be. Realistically nobody gives a damn about my opinion, they just want to voice theirs in support or opposition. Creating anything for public consumption is a fine line between one side and the other, and as easily as something can take off it can be cancelled. The video game world is included in that, works of fiction where anything should be the reality of the world created is tainted because society can't leave anything alone. Everything is a win for one side or the other and it's a sad reality to live in.

[@newbielives]

I think this game is probably fun like a mobile game you play on the toilet, it won't teach you anything new or make you think, if i wanted a game just to waste time maybe i would buy it but I think there are a lot of better options for investing my time into

[@monsterbro221]

Finished the game last night. As a Dragon Age fan since day one with Origins, I absolutely loved it. I'd dare to say it's as good, if not better, in some ways than Origins. It could be better, but it's not nearly as bad as a lot of the internet would have you believe right now. I'm old enough to remember that every Dragon Age game (including Origins) had detractors when initially released. I believe history will be kind to this game in the long run.

[@dannydanutzu1]

Is DEFINITELY bad😂😂😂😂

[@Tommy-zx4ry]

While I agree that you can hack and slash your way with most classes without learning the dodge and block mechanics, you should try playing a Death Caller mage from the beginning. I tried it and must say that I had to learn to use all the mechanics very well to be successful.

[@rpjames8]

@@Tommy-zx4ry I was certainly going to try mage now that the first playthrough is finished. Was leaning into the battle mage, but will for sure tey Death caller!

[@ajax4801]

Yes this thing is cringe

[@MsRafaelRGO]

Does it deserve hate? no, is it really that bad? yes

[@Princesmilez]

Game isn’t bad , only ppl who think it’s bad is ppl either won’t play it bc someone else said so and those who haven’t played it for themselves.. everyone I’ve seen actually playing the game including myself are enjoying the game and the so called “agenda” doesn’t even exist in the game if you pick what applies to you . I feel like half the ppl that have opinions haven’t even played it . But in the next 6months to a yr them same ppl will try it n go oh it’s great 😂 I love that you put emphasis on the player expectation, bc that proves it’s a consumer problem not a developer problem. Players have high expectations and get disappointed when it’s not what they thought it would be

[@austintaylor1378]

Is this game better than the ones before? Than BG3 or any of the role playing staples? Absolutely not. It’s last place in every way. That’s not a me opinion that’s a user review opinion that a lot share & for good reason. It’s an utter disappointment

[@Lostjayyhawk]

Yeah, I'm going to go with no. This will be on the suicide squad level of "replay". Bioware is going to shut down

[@superhumantrueman]

@@austintaylor1378 lol is any RPG better than BG3?

[@SporianSummit]

​@@superhumantrueman id argue elden ring is

[@jootpepet]

Yeah because the people who dont like the game already refunded it. Numbers dont lie though, you bought a massive flop, but us have better games to play. Enjoy.

[@geraldbrown6874]

💯🔥🔥🔥

[@kingjabon]

Yes it is.

[@fallenejoski]

Are people really that dumb for u to use a leaf comparison and explanation lol u could have simply said people has different taste and liking 😂

[@thynErro]

Pros for Veilguard: You will never forget what you need to do. 10 push ups. Cons: Everything else

[@AKABoondock19]

Its awful, and its a RPG for people who dont like RPGS.

[@Hangman1]

Now im sure thats game is not for me

[@Psychooable]

The game has 75% on steam, 4.1/5 on xbox and 4.35/5 on playstation. That is all that have to be said. The game is avarege - ok. I have not played it yet but i am planning to get it when it is on sale. Finally, in my opinion previous games are overrated... Also i am pretty sure ea doesn't control Reddit. Banning is just reddit being reddit

[@Lostjayyhawk]

What are the peaks on concurrent players, and in a week will anyone be playing it? I've seen plenty of streamers playing it for the lolz Also, what are the total sales. This game was in development for a long time. I would bet my car that they're not close to breaking even

[@Lostjayyhawk]

KZbin. This game is a failure. Delete it again

[@Ditronus.]

Man, there's clearly talent involved in making this game. It feels like it just suffered with bad direction and design. You needed someone who knew what made bioware special leading this game, but instead, you got someone who seemingly prioritized their political agenda and making people feel fuzzy. Thanks for the review. I'm gonna take your recommendation and wait for a big discount. I wish this was xbox play anywhere.

[@woodersonandmelbatoast6043]

The very first tag in Steam is not “RPG” “Adventure” or “action” it’s “LGBTQ” which means they’re pandering so hardcore to that demographic that you know even Bioware knows it’s a shit game.

[@jonecito]

Every critic I’ve seen about this game seems to be coming from a place of pure hate, not for the game itself but for the developers. It’s never objective thoughts about the game and its elements, but it’s always “I hope this is the end of Bioware” and it genuinely makes me laugh… and I’m not here trying to defend big companies but I just can’t understand how Veilguard got into this mess 😂

[@jax4616]

I’ve been playing for hours and I think it’s great, combat and story is pretty good, I’d rather play this than boring Baldurs gate

[@Lostjayyhawk]

Nice attempt at a hot take. People will still be playing bg3 in 5 years. Let's see if bioware still exists in 5 years.

[@Lostjayyhawk]

Don't worry friend..I looked it up. The weekend dragon age came out, the concurrent players of bg3 was 100,000 and dragon age was 90,000. Meanwhile, bg3 had 800,000 concurrent players at it's peak.

[@Lostjayyhawk]

A game that probably cost half the budget and was crowd funded because people saw actual potential.

[@jax4616]

@ but the combat in that game is the most boring combat I have ever played, guys love that game because you can have sexy time with men or women or a bear

[@jax4616]

@ but it’s so boring, combat is worse than watching paint dry

[@jax4616]

I find it funny that this generation is so woke and yet they complain about every game, so who’s fault is it that they choose to make games woke now, it’s because this generation is woke

[@S3-F3]

This generation isn't that 'woke'. It's only small but loud and very aggressive minority. This generation is just afraid to speak up, because everyone's tricked into thinking they are in the minority. It's like when some thugs on a bus are picking on someone, and everyone else just looks down and keeps quiet. Not because they don't care, but because they don't trust that the others would back them if they spoke up

[@skechij5856]

It’s moreso that out of touch devs and executives cannot weave such topics into their games naturally, they make it the most clumsy, lecturing implementation possible.