17 & 18 has always been among my favorite characters exactly because of their demeanor. They sound like exactly what they are. A mix of human and robots. Doesn't even matter if they get stressed or anything. They barely ever scream like the others, and even while getting overpowered they have this creepy stoic expression on them
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
except for when you know, they scream...
@NorwegianNoLife2 күн бұрын
@@codyroht827 I said barely ever. Compared to the others they really keep cold
@ramenbomberdeluxe49584 күн бұрын
This episode and others show that it’s not like the TOP is bad, but it just makes you wish you could have seen these characters have actual full journeys, to make their growth feel more solid and legit. Regardless, the TOP does not disappoint whatsoever, and I’m happy you’re enjoying it so much.
@shanavalkyria34384 күн бұрын
Yea i would love a short series on the pride troopers. i agree that it woulda been cool if you saw more of universerse nines growth, mostly dyspo and top
@Jordaxio4 күн бұрын
Its worse in the manga since alot of TOP characters get off screen power, specifically the saiyans
@SuperAllelujah3 күн бұрын
It's a shame Goku gets so much screen time...
@gocool62993 күн бұрын
Nah we don't need a bunch of back story with so called sad flashback. Thats not the dragon ball way and is the reason why its my fav show. Vegeta has no flashback yet people understand him because of the events on namek. We followed piccolo growth with gohan and the z warrior in og
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
No one wants another one piece where something has over 1100 episodes, that's just money grabbing...
@GirlofCulture4 күн бұрын
Yup. Dragonball Characternames always makes you hungry. 😆
@SuperSky93 күн бұрын
FUN FACT: 10:53 This version of her is ANIME ONLY. 👍 to the anime artist for caring for our sanity.
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
Literally everyone hates her except the one person who gets what A SHOW is about.. "our sanity" is a strong phrase..
@Lord_Freeza14104 күн бұрын
The "Sworn Sister" line really influenced the view on Kale and Caulifla for a lot of fans, it doesn't mean *actual* Sister, just someone youre extremely close to.
@SuperSky93 күн бұрын
That would be an understand, People were cringing like "Can you'll tone down the sexual tension, its make the whole room feel awkward"
@Lord_Freeza14103 күн бұрын
They are very clearly meant to be a couple, censorship laws and general company annoyances prevent them from outright stating it unfortunately. Every appearance they've made in games since Super released has only further pushed that (Using the colors of the lesbian flag as a background when they're supporting eachother in DBL, referring to her as "My Caulifla" constantly etc).
@SuperSky93 күн бұрын
@Lord_Freeza1410 Not at all its Universe 2 that is full of LGBTQ+ representation. Kale and Califa are meant to be two extremes of the same line just like all saiyan fusions. Also, there is no such thing as "My Caulifa" but I wouldn't put it past the English dubbing community filled with political extremist who change scripts on their own. Thank god Japan is choosing AI voice overs to kick these people out while keeping the context intact.
@robd9413Күн бұрын
@13:00 Slight aside based on this mashup idea. The whole point of Dragonball Heroes is to sell a trading card game and they do this by basically throws everything at the wall to see what sticks. Every match-up they could think of pops up - characters from DBZ, Super, GT, Xenoverse; if they've appeared they are going in, plus a bunch they made up just for this. GT's SSJ4 Goku vs Golden Freiza, sure, that is in the first few episodes. Goku vs Goku is even in there, but you'd have to wait a bit for that. Each episode is only 10 minutes and usually at least half is the fights. It all gets rather crazy at multiple points, but if you want mad mashups doing (as TFS put it) "lots of fighty-fighty" then turn your brain off and look them up. Just don't worry about power scaling - the writers didn't.
@soulbade-x97093 күн бұрын
I'm glad you're enjoying Frieza because most fans were hesitant/hated the idea of Frieza returning since we just saw him in Ressurection F(which didn't age well). To our surprise, Frieza was one of the best additions to the T.O.P. I honestly don't see the T.O.P. being as good as it was if they didn't include Frieza.
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive22 күн бұрын
Yeah we didn’t love him being included at first but now that he is here it’s a delight 🤩
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
If Resurrection F didn't age well with anyone, that's their own fault for not knowing the show.. If anyone was surprised that someone that could match the strongest form of the main character thinks they were useless, they need to stop watching things..
@ultrainstinctsonbrandon4 күн бұрын
1:29 Is anyone else getting Ginyu Force flashbacks?
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive22 күн бұрын
Yes! 😝
@deionprince28323 күн бұрын
That moment when you realize casserole by himself in future trunks timeline would destroy the androids at the time.
@highlander315273 күн бұрын
12:24 Ken's going to lose it when 17 joins in with 18 and starts LARPING as a bad guy. Meanwhile. "Me? I'm Goku."
@lexdadon274 күн бұрын
Just 9 more episodes until the epicness 😏😏😏😊😊😊
@meewec20913 күн бұрын
next episode is great for 17 i think
@alzaelnext6383 күн бұрын
@@meewec2091 That's the best scene in the entire Top. Except for maybe Roshis awesome moment later (you know which one, no need to spoil).
@keef5Күн бұрын
“A shadowy figure” .. oh god
@XayRush943 күн бұрын
“Jiren vs Goku will be the ultimate battle.” This is true, not true and an understatement all at once 😂
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
It is true, true, and all true at once, tf are you on?
@cm4n634 күн бұрын
2:24 getting sparking zero flashbacks...
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
Getting future flashbacks.... Learn to life..
@GirlofCulture4 күн бұрын
"We are the Zennies" Yup. Although I also find that a bit presumptuous of Toei Animation...The Audience have all the power to make a serious successful or not.. And sure the Zennies are all-powerful in the truest sense, but they also have the mind of 4-year-olds... It is fun to be silly once in a while.. But I don't know if I want to feel represented like that as an audience, to be honest. It is disrespectful and cute at the same time... huh.
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive22 күн бұрын
Could also be just how he wants us to all enjoy the show or how he hopes we do. Not all shows. But just his show and especially the tournament. Or maybe how he feels reading his stuff or watching it 🤗 though this is all obviously just a shot in the dark 🙃
@GirlofCulture2 күн бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 That sounds sweet. You guys are much nicer then i could be ;)
@cunningsmile41663 күн бұрын
Yes everyone from 11 is named after kitchen stuff. Even Jiren is just Renji backwards; means stove. Vesto wouldnt sound cool.
@LILFACE183 күн бұрын
Still waiting on the Dr.Stone reaction.. one day
@autumnruby84243 күн бұрын
Gonna be honest, I kind of forgot how dense some of these episodes are sooooo there is a lot to cover here. First off, the epic showdown between Goku and Jiren......... does not happen this episode. Top and the B-Tier Pride Troopers unfortunately come to put an end to the fight before it even begins. I love how confused Goku is by their shenanigans. You'd think he'd be used to the more eccentric opponents by now with his past with the Ginyu Force, or even his son and daughter-in-law dressing up as the Great Saiyaman 1 and 2. The Pride Troopers present to us a fun ferocious frenzy of foes for our hopeful heroes to face off against. This gaggle of goons, with peculiar powers, prove to be a problem. They're very campy, silly, Saturday Morning Cartoonish, and so quintessential Dragon Ball. A Dragon Ball series just wouldn't be complete without at least one Super Sentai reference. Besides Top, Dyspo, & Jiren, there really isn't much depth to the Pride Troopers, but I still find them to be a fun batch of baddies. Next we get to see Team Universe 7 reunite after Kale's rampage. It's great to see Master Roshi and Tenshinhan working together. They had one of my favorite character arcs together in OG Dragon Ball, so seeing them team up fills me with nostalgia. And I like that Gohan continues to take his role of team leader seriously by checking on any member of his team he can find. And then there is Freeza. I love this character so much. He is so deliciously malicious. He isn't allowed to massacre his opponents for once, so now he if forced to play with his food. It is both disturbing and hilarious. And him telling Vegeta to "Go Fetch" is just the cherry on top. He just oozes charisma despite how despicable he is. I'm so glad he is here. And speaking of former antagonists that I'm glad to have back. Let's move onto the androids. Lapis and Lazuli come in for the save to help Goku and the Universe 6 Saiyans. It is so ironic that the beings created to destroy Son Goku are now protecting him. They have had a complete 180 as characters, yet they still keep their stone cold, almost apathetic disposition. But what I find really interesting is that Lapis, Lazuli, & Goku all try to help Kale and Caulifla even when the Pride Troopers are focusing on them anymore, but I'll circle back to that later. Kale and Caulifla are two characters I find myself enjoying a lot more on this rewatch. I love their bond as "sworn sisters", and their fight with the Pride Troopers reveals a lot about their true characters. The Pride Troopers are supposedly super heroes of "justice" in their universe, yet are willing to relinquish their morals to win. They could have easily thrown Caulifla out of the ring once they trapped her in the alternate dimension, but they didn't. As soon as their backs are against the wall, they trap Kale and Caulifla. And pretty much start torturing Caulifla. On the other hand you have the supposed "villain" of the tournament (in the eyes of the other competitors) with Goku, who is trying to save Kale and Caulifla, despite not even being from the same universe or on the same team. And Caulifla, someone who is originally presented to the audience as a brute and ruthless saiyan, is doing everything in her power to protect Kale and is constantly complimenting and encouraging her. And as for Kale.... I do think that Kale gaining control of her "Legendary" form as quickly as she does, is a bit rushed, but given how much there is to cover in the tournament, I get that compromises had to be made. That being said, I love her design while she is in control. Despite how strong she looks now, she somehow keeps this innocence to her. She seems at peace with herself. And with the way her and Caulifla's beams wrap around each other when they fight against the Pride Troopers is just so cute! We come to the end of this episode with Goku and the androids letting Kale and Caulifla go. You can excuse Goku's reasoning with his saiyan biology compelling him to let strong foes get away. He does have a history of that, but it begs the question, why do the androids let them go? Personally, I think it's because they are both parents. They're protectors by nature, and seeing two obviously younger and hurt opponents fighting to protect themselves struck a cord with them. Lapis and Lazuli were both orphans with nothing but each other to rely on for the longest time, maybe they saw themselves in Kale and Caulifla. Whatever their reason is, we end this episode on another cliffhanger. Another notable fighter is about to make her debut in the tournament. She is arguably the most unique fighter in the tournament, and I'm excited to talk about her. Next time on Dragon Ball Super. -Red Sapphire
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
That's a lot of useless info no one cares about...
@prab20082 күн бұрын
Guys I think I can speak for us all when I say you guys need to do a Naruto series reaction next!!!!!!!!!!
@Neo_suxxen4 күн бұрын
bucky dont like zeno confirmed lol
@jdpc93913 күн бұрын
I really hope they will watch Super Broly after the end of the series before they watch OG Dragon Ball. Super Hero could get a pass for me but Broly is fucking insane as a movie!
@Skrobbo4 күн бұрын
Thanks guys
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive22 күн бұрын
Our pleasure! 🙂
@Luzarioth4 күн бұрын
finally they got what the Zenys are ^^
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive22 күн бұрын
🤗
@MBYui4 күн бұрын
Goku vs universe 11 Ginyu force
@ElonDusk-fw1ln2 күн бұрын
Are you guys gonna react to Dragon Ball Daima?
@tugmylantern42444 күн бұрын
Here early for once :)
@DefinitelyNotDefinitive22 күн бұрын
🙂
@GustavoLima-c7j2 күн бұрын
React to the Superman trailer please
@earendilthemariner55464 күн бұрын
Its spelled Kahseral
@LuffyxNamiisathing4 күн бұрын
Yeah and it is Japanese for Casserole. Like most Dragon Ball names Toriyama likes to use food.
@FredHunley-v6o3 күн бұрын
So you listened and covered up
@GirlofCulture4 күн бұрын
In the original DBZ i did not like 18 and 17 (because of the dub in my country). In Dragonball Z Abridged. 17 and 18 are so much cooler, still bi*chy but still cool. Here they are at least.. just based now.
@LuffyxNamiisathing4 күн бұрын
Still the best with Frieza in this arc. (Most fans agree)
@GirlofCulture3 күн бұрын
@@LuffyxNamiisathing Yup for sure ! And also a huge dissapointment later on in the Manga for me, that's why i am done with Dragonball in general. Me just her because Beth and Ken enjoying it,.
@SyLuX6363 күн бұрын
Uni 6 gets too many freebies imo. Most of the fights is just 50% Goku and 30% Uni 6 then rest is just the other Universes. Whats the point of making all these characters if there not gonna have any screentime. Its starting be like Bleach, they have lots of cool characters but most just die offscreen or never appear at all.
@elyjoseputignano97013 күн бұрын
Why did the topo take Jiren if he's the strongest guy in the arena hahaha
@GirlofCulture4 күн бұрын
Mhm.. just saying in the old Dragonball days, Kale would have needed at least a Season or so, to control that legendary Super Saiyan Power. But who cares anymore?... Clearly not the writers. I know things have changed but, to fast is to fast. I love powerful female fighters a lot, but i want it earned, not given because of the writing. There are rules in your own story, and DBS was breaking them everytime. They are cool, but it felt rushed to me.
@meewec20913 күн бұрын
but two thirds of that would have been screaming for "thirty seconds"
@thelettucebarrel77843 күн бұрын
Transformations/powers have never taken that long to master. They’re usually controlled or mastered pretty quickly after unlocking them.
@SyLuX6363 күн бұрын
Never liked Uni 6 except for Hit. There was too much ass kissing towards them, especially when they allowed them to use Potaras. Mostly is eye candy with the female saiyans, and most characters are mostly the same as 7 but with a color change.
@meewec20913 күн бұрын
@@SyLuX636 they are a universal pair so they're going to be very similar. as for the potaras, more exciting more better according to zeno
@devinburns25352 күн бұрын
Did you forget both goten and trunks just had super saiyan right?
@CameronDThomas3 күн бұрын
The two upstart saiyan pest again, those girls are still the biggest plot hole bull💩 of this story! I will not recognize false power!😒
@codyroht8272 күн бұрын
Uni 6 is different, OH NO BIG SHOCKER. Their Saiyans never had tails and have SOOOOO much more potential then uni 7. ITS ALMOST STATED IN THE SHOW MULTIPLE TIMES. The one who has the potential to MATCH a power they are against and the LEGENDARY super saiyan. SUCH A DESIGN FLAW OH MY GAWWWWWWWD