Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken (2020) - I'm the real Killvearn!

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Daimadoushi Popp

Daimadoushi Popp

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@スフィア-h6p
@スフィア-h6p 8 ай бұрын
チンピラ役やれば基本ハマるしちょけた役もよくやるけどイナイレの鬼道とかこのキルバーンとかやってる時の吉野さんマジで好き
@暁隼人
@暁隼人 Жыл бұрын
原作ではキルバーン真の正体に驚き、アニメでは声優さんの神演技に驚かされた。なんとも、ぜいたくなアニメだった。
@井上卓郎-o8s
@井上卓郎-o8s 10 ай бұрын
あの高い声から低くなるとかすげぇ、、、。
@アルティメットカイザー
@アルティメットカイザー 7 ай бұрын
治らないじゃなく直らないやピロロがキルバーンから離れている時に戦い側にいる時は簡単な事しかしていないや意見が一致しない事が無かった(一度あったがミスリード)等伏線が張られていたな😅
@真純-v2i
@真純-v2i Жыл бұрын
ミストとキルが妙に気が合った理由。 互いに欺きあってた点だと思う。 狐と狸の化かし合い。 勝者はキルバーン。
@2023hannshinnyuusyou-ct5np
@2023hannshinnyuusyou-ct5np 6 ай бұрын
それもあるけど。互いに「自分の体」「自分の力」ではない者同士もあったからだと思う。 続編ないので憶測だけど。死神の人形を作ったのはキルバーンでなく。ヴェルザーだと思う。 本人があまりにもアホで脆すぎるし。 自分が作ったものだとしても愛着心が全く見られないし、ハドラー親衛隊たちに対してもろに侮蔑的なセリフ言ってたから。
@タンサンスイ-pixivFANBOX活動中
@タンサンスイ-pixivFANBOX活動中 Жыл бұрын
ピロロの声がまんまプルンスだった時点で「あ、これ正体明かす時絶対声色変えるパターンだ」って予想は出来てたけど実際聞くと背筋がゾワッとする。声優ってすげぇ。
@茶碗蒸し-m6y
@茶碗蒸し-m6y Жыл бұрын
アイドル気取りの顔だけの声優には真似できない芸当。
@spacy1257
@spacy1257 11 ай бұрын
さすがプロの声優さんだね。
@nkoda-vp5hi
@nkoda-vp5hi 8 ай бұрын
役が決まった時からこの見せ場に向かって気合い入れてやってたんだろうな・・@@spacy1257
@jeremygrandison1040
@jeremygrandison1040 6 ай бұрын
I was like "WTH, THIS IS BULLCRAP!" 😱😱😱😱😱😱
@ГэнтаВатанабэ
@ГэнтаВатанабэ 5 ай бұрын
反射と思考の融合でプルンス~!
@レイトラスト
@レイトラスト 4 ай бұрын
ピロロの声から鮮やかにキルバーンの声に変貌するの演技力ヤバすぎるwww声優さんマジパねぇわ
@Purple-lieutenant
@Purple-lieutenant 3 ай бұрын
最初の8秒をずっと聞いていられる
@popp7223
@popp7223 2 жыл бұрын
I love this scene and the revelation. It was really unexpected. Everyone thought peace was returned after Vearn, the main villain, was defeated. Not only we discover who Killvearn really is but foremost that a black core has always been hidden behind the mask. Major plot twist.
@cat-Ifreet
@cat-Ifreet 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was an absolutely brilliant twist from the author. We were expecting celebrations and the like, only to hold our breaths of a major danger that was always under the protagonist's noses but that no body had anticipated. Kill Vearn is an absolutely great, well written villain!
@cat-Ifreet
@cat-Ifreet 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Vearn was unaware of Piroro's identity? It sounds bizzare given how omniscient and clever he was .. or did he knew but acted like he does not, so that he does not alert Kill Vearn and provoke him to activate the bomb? I find it difficult to believe the Supreme Dark Lord is unaware?!
@popp7223
@popp7223 2 жыл бұрын
@@cat-Ifreet It is hard to tell actually. I would think he was not aware of the secret. Otherwise he could have easily crush the dwarf or just ask Myst to do it. He would not take the risk of being in permanence with presence of Black core at his side which could turn on at any time.
@popp7223
@popp7223 2 жыл бұрын
See this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGrCYWOgrdVgbLM Vearn knew Velzar commanded killvearn to murder him. But the fact he said "Killvearn is now dead" means he does not really know about the real secret ( he took the puppet for the real).
@cat-Ifreet
@cat-Ifreet 2 жыл бұрын
@@popp7223 yeah, right. But if Vearn really did not know, this just adds to the legend of Kill Vearn; like how deceiving and cunning he really is. Amazing villain
@健利石原
@健利石原 5 ай бұрын
吉野さんの声で一番最初に知ったのは「ヴァンドレッド」の主役ヒビキ•トカイでしたね。熱血漢のイメージから冷徹なキルバーンの声は、違和感があるからこそ良かったです。
@ユッキー-j1t
@ユッキー-j1t Жыл бұрын
このシーンの凄さは吉野さんの演技力の凄さと展開の凄さ
@joint1114
@joint1114 Жыл бұрын
中の人スケダンのボッスンなんだぜ
@ユッキー-j1t
@ユッキー-j1t Жыл бұрын
@@joint1114 結界師の良守とかもっすな
@けんパッちゃん
@けんパッちゃん 5 ай бұрын
ゴーグルドレッド赤マント中学生も!
@07spriggan
@07spriggan 4 ай бұрын
反射と思考の超兵ガンダムマイスターもですね。
@popp7223
@popp7223 2 жыл бұрын
0:06 I love when he pronounces "Killvan" with his dark voice.
@maxmolemen7786
@maxmolemen7786 2 жыл бұрын
I always KNEW Piroro's voice would change to his real voice
@syazwanmustapah2826
@syazwanmustapah2826 2 жыл бұрын
I would be disappointed if it didn't.
@popp7223
@popp7223 Жыл бұрын
@@syazwanmustapah2826 j'ai craqué l'essence
@unatokine6349
@unatokine6349 2 жыл бұрын
Voice actor is amazing !
@伏見よっしー1021
@伏見よっしー1021 4 ай бұрын
声色の変え方ほんとスゴい
@AS-op1lk
@AS-op1lk Жыл бұрын
これ、声優さん同じ人だから 凄いわ。
@maxcady360
@maxcady360 2 жыл бұрын
Now it makes sense. Killvearn and his sidekick were never seen speaking at the same time. A key detail that most likely not even Vearn was aware of or noticed.
@cat-Ifreet
@cat-Ifreet 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Vearn was unaware of Piroro's identity? It sounds bizzare given how omniscient and clever he was .. or did he knew but acted like he does not, so that he does not alert Kill Vearn and provoke him to activate the bomb? I find it difficult to believe the Supreme, majestic Dark Lord eats little Piroro's trick!
@syazwanmustapah2826
@syazwanmustapah2826 2 жыл бұрын
@@cat-Ifreet You got to give credit to how great Kill Vearn acting was. His puppet was shown to be angry and bitter against Avan, yet his true self acted scared. Kill Vearn (Piroro) really knows how to act.
@popp7223
@popp7223 2 жыл бұрын
People usually never speak at the same time. Otherwise you won't understand à single word.
@aboodbb8774
@aboodbb8774 Жыл бұрын
In fact the trick that always killed the theory for any character is kill vearn approaching while playing the death reaper flute and piroro talking and laughing at the same one example was kill vearn first appearance doing it when he meet hadlar and the rest of legion captain's Plus piroro didn't had to be always with kill vearn to act for example while kill vearn was an another dimension piroro was out the dimension and watching vearn fight For if vearn knows it Vearn even if aware kill wouldn't had done anything as his job was to assist vearn in accomplish his goals but if he is to fail or lost he should kill him when the chance come up That's why when vearn for example got weak he doesn't act and try to kill him right away
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
​@@cat-Ifreet We are talking about the right hand man of the only being in the Underworld that could rival Vearn, so it's tough to say, especially with "Piroro's" acting, though Killvearn did know Mystvearn's secret, so it wouldn't be too surprising if the opposite was also true.
@目の健康ラジオ
@目の健康ラジオ Жыл бұрын
ミストバーンに言ったセリフ。 「これでしばらくダンマリか」と吹き出しマークでてた。 吹き出しマークをピロロにしなきゃいけないと思う。
@Recreational23
@Recreational23 Жыл бұрын
原作初期はまだ1人二役設定は無かったからね😏 あとアバンにバカにされた後、2人で会話するシーンがあったけど、周囲に誰もいない状況で腹話術やる意味あったのか? と思った😁
@苑餡こあ
@苑餡こあ Жыл бұрын
@@Recreational23 バーン様が何処かで見てる可能性だって考えられるし、それにたとえ周囲に誰も居なくても肝心な時にボロが出ないように常に演技し続けてなりきる事も大事だと思うので意味はちゃんとあるかと思います。
@西村康平-t6y
@西村康平-t6y 5 ай бұрын
原作は5年前にみんな読んだからピロロこそがキルバーンなのは知ってた。がしかし、吉野裕行氏の演じ分けがすごすぎて声が出ねえっす。
@まいこんぶひひd
@まいこんぶひひd Ай бұрын
プロ声優の真骨頂🎉 さすがです。
@jesssilvamillionclover7918
@jesssilvamillionclover7918 Жыл бұрын
A huge plot twist!!!
@jeremygrandison1040
@jeremygrandison1040 6 ай бұрын
Unexpected as hell, and I love it!
@さくゆー-d6e
@さくゆー-d6e 4 ай бұрын
これ、漫画版で見たときに恐怖めいたものを感じた………。アニメ版は声変わりで一層怖さが引き立ってるわ…
@ShadowIsatis
@ShadowIsatis 6 ай бұрын
Didnt expect this when i first saw it. Truly was a surprise.
@spacy1257
@spacy1257 Жыл бұрын
ピロロが本物のキルバーン。
@カピマルチ
@カピマルチ 3 ай бұрын
これは逆転の発想。当時は驚きました。
@shuna891
@shuna891 Жыл бұрын
破邪の呪法でヒャドで極大化したら凍らせたんじゃないってリアルタイムで読んでいた時に思ってた😅
@骨助-c1s
@骨助-c1s 5 ай бұрын
破邪の力を増幅だから攻撃呪文を増幅はできないんだよね。
@TORUIROIRO
@TORUIROIRO 6 ай бұрын
元々は隙あらばバーンを倒すためのコアなのに何故一度も使わなかったのか.少なくともダイたちとの戦いの中でバーンと二人きりになる機会はあったし、魔法力を消耗して弱ったところをハドラーに押されていた時なんてまさに格好の機会だったのに。
@alexandrite93000
@alexandrite93000 5 ай бұрын
黒のコアの発動に10秒もかかったら、多少弱ってるくらいじゃ仕留めきれないかと。 それでなくても最初からキルバーンの名前の意味も誰の刺客かもわかっていたのに。
@28maaru88
@28maaru88 2 ай бұрын
キルバーンの性格上。密命以上にアバンへ一泡吹かせたいという私情を優先したのかもしれない
@alexmojarro7960
@alexmojarro7960 2 жыл бұрын
Would the real killvearn please stand up
@KnowledgeNovel
@KnowledgeNovel Жыл бұрын
I repeat would the real killvearn please stand up.😂😂
@トラミナ
@トラミナ Жыл бұрын
ミストバーンとキルバーンが妙に気があったのって暗黒闘気の集合体とキルバーン(仮初の身体)ではお互い自分の力で強くなることができないからなのかな (みんなの考察求む)
@ファン-j9e
@ファン-j9e Жыл бұрын
ミスト(バーンの体使っている)とピロロ(死神人形使っている)という人形使って最強プレイしている者同士
@パンツ削除済
@パンツ削除済 Жыл бұрын
ミストがキルの本性を知らないがゆえの友情なんだろうな 弱かろうとも実体をもっていながら強力な人形の影に隠れ続けるキルのあり方はミストからしたら唾棄すべきものだし 初対面の発言からしてキルはミストの正体を最初から勘づいていたりと対比も多い間柄
@ナスタラン
@ナスタラン 11 ай бұрын
似た者同士、お互いに得体の知れない輩!なんて思っていたみたいだけど…共通点があったからね。ただ、ミストの方は鍛え、強くなれないことへのジレンマ、コンプレックスがあったのに対し、キルの方は…コンプレックスはあったものの…己の立場、実力を理解し、敵を欺くことを楽しんでいたように見える
@yaotom.
@yaotom. Ай бұрын
誘爆を示唆することで、一番動ける状態のダイとポップが処理するように動くように誘導した… 地上が欲しい主の命に逆らうような事を全てが終わったタイミングで起爆したのは、目標がバーン個人からダイとポップの両方、あるいはどちらかを消せればいいので動くように演技し煽っていたという説を聞いたときはすげーってなりましたよ。
@daviswiggin4425
@daviswiggin4425 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing scene but it always bugged me that he said Velzar was uncharacteristically greedy for a dragon- dragons are traditionally very greedy
@alex939709
@alex939709 2 жыл бұрын
Remember that it is a Japanese series, and in the East dragons usually have a positive connotation.
@daviswiggin4425
@daviswiggin4425 2 жыл бұрын
@@alex939709 Yeah I know- but it's in a mostly-western setting with western-style dragons. The character for "ryu" they use in the manga, for example, is the western style "ryu" as opposed to the Chinese characters "ryu" for an eastern dragon. I know it's super nitpicky of me, but it annoys me lol
@aboodbb8774
@aboodbb8774 Жыл бұрын
For the world of dragon quest dragons are symbol of power and might in general but most intelligent dragons doesn't show greed in theirs characteristics However velzar show it as he is to found of having and own everything he wants Even I'd velzar was to get the surface world his greed would made him aim for the very heavens and even more
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
They can be greedy, but even treasure hoarding dragons tend to limit themselves and are more of a collector that refuses to give up any of their collection. Velzar on the other hand straight up wants literally everything to be his, and that extreme sense of greed is what is uncharacteristic about him, he's beyond greedy by even Dragon standards.
@homerman76
@homerman76 Жыл бұрын
​@@alex939709 Most of the Dragon Quest dragons are monsters though, so your analysis isn't correct. There have been some dragons in the Dragon Quest series all together that have been intelligent, but even they can be rather selfish in how they deal with anything outside of their domain (sometimes with good reason and other times because they're just self-centered.)
@Made.IN.Z.A.I.A
@Made.IN.Z.A.I.A Жыл бұрын
声優さんの演技力も相まって、キルバーンの策士ぶりには、最後まで騙されてました(;・ω・)
@ナムナム山本
@ナムナム山本 7 ай бұрын
ミストとキルが妙に気があった。って言うのはここだと思うな。ミストはバーンの分身体に憑依。キルバーンは死神の人形を操りはしていたけど憑依もしていたと思う。 二人とも言葉にはしないが、ヒムの言ったように分身体がないと何もできない寄生虫同士。気があったと思うし、美点皆無なのに主君に対しての忠誠が強い事から。 この死神の人形を作ったのはヴェルザーで。ハドラー親衛隊の様に心はないが、力を与えていたからマキシマムのような配下を持っていても気が付かなかったんではないかと思う。
@targetseeker
@targetseeker 2 ай бұрын
ironic, a dragon being called out for being greedy.
@基之白井
@基之白井 Жыл бұрын
凄い演技力
@Muhammad-ds2dm
@Muhammad-ds2dm Жыл бұрын
😂 he is laughing cute kiilveran
@ソウルスカーレット
@ソウルスカーレット 4 ай бұрын
1:30 1:33 1:37 このセリフからダクソに出てくる "白竜シース"を連想させるな
@popp7223
@popp7223 2 жыл бұрын
0:01 So, bokuna onto no Killuvanda 😈
@4gounet
@4gounet Жыл бұрын
Boku ga hontou no Killvearn da ぼくが 本当の キルバーンだ
@popp7223
@popp7223 Жыл бұрын
@@4gounet I don't hear this (I wrote it as it sounds to my ears)
@くまたろう-z2h
@くまたろう-z2h Жыл бұрын
こうなると分かっていたけど、想像以上😮
@ピースシャイン
@ピースシャイン Жыл бұрын
腹話術師の逆となると若干シュールな感じで喋るんだな
@Cloudnine8686
@Cloudnine8686 Жыл бұрын
He is not dead for sure. He just teleported to Makai
@alex939709
@alex939709 Жыл бұрын
He died
@bastianvillaman1894
@bastianvillaman1894 2 жыл бұрын
0:49 Piroro es extremadamente peor que Danzo
@凌東鈺
@凌東鈺 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Hiryuujuichi
@Hiryuujuichi 5 ай бұрын
Really great plot twist :) What is the song starting at 00:49 ?
@FF-he2bt
@FF-he2bt 3 ай бұрын
もう、バーン死んじゃったからキルバーンじゃなくキルアバンじゃない?
@MrSilentProtagonist
@MrSilentProtagonist 2 жыл бұрын
So he wanted to keep the surface world too but he going to activate the bombs with the smaller one?
@Awelbeckk
@Awelbeckk Жыл бұрын
He wants the surface ... but not what is build or living on it.
@MrSilentProtagonist
@MrSilentProtagonist Жыл бұрын
@@Awelbeckk They made the point that difference between the two villains is one wants to rule the surface world and other wants to destroy it so the sunlight can reach the world of the Darklings.
@aboodbb8774
@aboodbb8774 Жыл бұрын
It's because of the circumstances they beat vearn at his peak And he only had kill vearn doing the job to him since he is sealed away so that is a necessary action for victory And if velzar become God he could build or even turn the underworld into new surface world So this move is actually quite smart It's like he took vearn plan and made it his back up plan
@ragnablade5397
@ragnablade5397 Жыл бұрын
The manga version is more Clear. Killvearn plan was to trigger only the closest pillar behind them. One pillar can't destroy the surface but the heavy heat can kill the whole humanity.
@kikai1187
@kikai1187 Жыл бұрын
凄い
@生ぽぽーぬ
@生ぽぽーぬ 4 ай бұрын
これ物陰で発動すれば勝ち確だったのにな
@ニャンコ先生-j4p
@ニャンコ先生-j4p Жыл бұрын
ピロロを放置したアバン先生は戦犯
@alexandrite93000
@alexandrite93000 5 ай бұрын
そうなるとバーンパレス落下時に爆発しちゃうやん
@ピースシャイン
@ピースシャイン 29 күн бұрын
​@@alexandrite93000+でその爆発でミストバーンと戦ってたポップやラーハルトも爆発に呑まれてた可能性がある。
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