My first computer, remember getting this with a bin bag full of tapes. Spent the day getting it going with a tape deck sat with my grandad.
@thedysk15 жыл бұрын
A really useful thing about the Dragon was that it could read tapes that you had save programming work onto from a BBC micro. So you could start working on a program at school, save to tape, load it into the Dragon at home. Continue to work on it at home then save it back to tape and test it the next day at school on the Beeb.
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
You definitely could not do that. The Dragon and BBC Micro were completely different. BBC BASIC Microsoft BASIC. 6809 processor 6502 processor.
@thedysk15 жыл бұрын
@@Jehannum2000 I didn't say the basic would run. Just that it would load from tape, could be edited and save back to tape for loading back on the Beeb. When I was at school, in the early 80's, a friend had a Dragon32 and he did this on a regular basis.
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
@@thedysk1 Ah, that could work if you saved it on the D32 as an ASCII file using CSAVE "",A and loaded it into a text editor on the BBC. If you used normal CSAVE, the tokenised BASIC commands would not have been interpreted correctly. So if it worked it means the Dragon and Beeb used the same frequency shift keying for cassettes, which I didn't know. I'm still a little sceptical they would recognise the same file protocol (header, title etc.) but maybe he used a program he'd written himself.
@2thinkcritically5 жыл бұрын
@@Jehannum2000 I have no idea whether it would work or not. But the BBC Micro and the Dragon both used the same cassette I/O cable for standard mono cassette recorders (although the load and save lines were swapped). I knew about using ASCII save on the Dragon back when I used it, but had no idea why one would want to use a method to save a BASIC program that took minutes rather than seconds to complete. However, I seem to remember it saved in chunks and I have some vague recollection that the BBC did the same thing. I'd be genuinely interested to see if this would indeed work.
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
@@2thinkcritically You're right, the ASCII saved in chunks. The cassette motor would stop and start as more data was buffered. The only thing I know of that used it was the Sprint BASIC compiler, which would compile on-the-fly as it loaded the program text (a clever way of using less RAM). The trouble was my Dragon's cassette motor control line never worked so I had to stop & start it manually by listening to the relay click!
@pauldourish5 жыл бұрын
In the early 1980's, a friend and I used to attend meetings of a home-brew computer club in Glasgow that met on the campus of Strathclyde University. There we met a man named Duncan Smeed, who had a prototype computer based on the 6809 and which went on to become the Dragon-32. He'd been contracted by Dragon to work on the BIOS and systems software. He left an easter-egg in the code; there's a POKE that rewrites the CR/LF text string and puts his initials, DNS, at the end of every line of text.
@MrCollie6665 жыл бұрын
He was also responsible for a technical book about the Dragon, "Inside the Dragon" I think it was called. The Dragon 32 was my first computer and where I learned the joys of 6809 assembly language :) Thanks to information from Mr. Smeed's book and some other publications on the Tandy CoCo it was possible to extend the Basic command set - I had some almost finished work along those lines adding commands to handle sprites and play sampled sound... fond memories.
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
@@MrCollie666 Duncan Smeed's book was great. I still have it.
@afroteddybear5 жыл бұрын
He's still at Strathclyde! The man is lecturing like a boss!
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
@@afroteddybear That's great to hear.
@paulcgburrows72675 жыл бұрын
Just found this blast (Dragon 32) from the past I use to make this power board in Leicestershire Rosendale Road in Earl shilton the company I worked for was called flowtronics the owners name was Clive Walley a great place to work I was final test re tv rf modulater setup for tv on the 625 line my signature was on the under side signed as......... PcB ...... Happy days
@carledwards94775 жыл бұрын
I owned a Dragon 32 and when the Dragon 64 came out the dealership where I bought my original machine offered me an upgrade for free! Of course, I jumped at the offer and I still have my Dragon 64. I was too scared to power it on, but now that I have an idea of what I should check, I will begin the testing process starting at the power board. Many thanks for covering the machine that was part of my journey into the world of computers!
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thank you for watching it, there should be lots more to help you in part 2 soon
@anumeon5 жыл бұрын
All male choirs are truly epic if utilized properly.. Darn that sounded powerful. Those Welsh sure know how to sing
@simonprice566 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how old you get, the feeling you get when you think about your first computer you had is so good ! The Dragon 32 was my baby and I'll never forget the games, thank you for posting RMC
@darkstarnh5 жыл бұрын
First time I've instinctively stood to attention at the beginning of a KZbin vid! :)
@sargieboi93155 жыл бұрын
I bet there's a few videos on less reputable sites you've instinctively stood to attention on...
@darkstarnh5 жыл бұрын
@@sargieboi9315 ??
@Jamal_Tyrone5 жыл бұрын
@@sargieboi9315 LOL
@colinjohnston85195 жыл бұрын
Why? Did your sheep walk in?
@darkstarnh5 жыл бұрын
@@colinjohnston8519 the usual sheep crap. Can we just get back to the computer and where it came from?
@Xesh0015 жыл бұрын
One of my friends had one of these and eventually upgraded it to the 64K version! Between us we had many of the computers available at the time. I had an Acorn Electron myself, my parents had a BBC B, my other friends had: Amstrad CPC464 (later upgraded to CPC6128), ZX Spectrum, Einstein, Commodore 64 and VIC-20. I was able to experience a lot of what was available in the UK at the time. I ended up staying with the Acorn brand over the years with later models owned being the A3000 and the A3020. I still have my trusty Elk, and I'll be getting my parents' Beeb later in this month!
@Lucasrainford5 жыл бұрын
I remember as a teen going in Dixons and all the computers and consoles were on display, C64, Colecovision, Intellivision, Atari etc. and right at the far end in the gloomy back was the Dragon 32. I was always intriguied about this machine. Great vid, looking forward to PT2 :)
@djsquarewave5 жыл бұрын
Woah, neat! As an American I'd only ever heard of this machine as one of many conversion targets for games. Never seen what it actually looks like, and had no idea it was designed in Wales! Looking forward to seeing it live and breathe fire again. :)
@alhartman665 жыл бұрын
There was an American Version called the Tano Dragon 64. I own two of them.
@Psychlist19725 жыл бұрын
I love all these old computers. It's like looking under the hood of a classic car vs. a modern one: really easy for someone with basic skills to understand the whole circuit.
@florkgagga5 жыл бұрын
One slight difference: classic cars, while comfy, are usually not so good to travel in (no headrest, loud...) . The ergonomics of some of these old comps is so great -today we are taking a few steps back in some aspects! I loved typing on my Schneider (Amstrad) and still wonder how the spectrum was even a contender (it was hugely popular where I live, and I played on it, too).
@alanedwards88344 жыл бұрын
Horace goes skiing, hungry Horace, saving basic programmes to tape, Dragon 32 our first family computer and my childhood! Thank you for the series.
@TheSaabClinicUK5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm the compatibility. I used to have a TRS-80 and I had loads of Dragon32 games which worked great !.
@Jef_Vermassen5 жыл бұрын
"Lets take it over to the lab" - I loved that. Great addition to the cave! Never heard of this machine which makes this Trash to Treasure episode even sweeter!
@RetroRecollections5 жыл бұрын
Love the Trash to Treasure series, looking forward to seeing the Dragon breathe fire! :)
@chrisg65975 жыл бұрын
Be careful of the 7905's tab shorting to the heatsink. The Tab is the -ve in for the regulator, and no doubt the heatsink will be at 0v potential.
@MrDuncl5 жыл бұрын
Looking at the hole in the heatsink it looks as if they originally planned to bolt the regulator down, using a Mica washer and Nylon screw or insert to insulate it. In fact here is a picture of one made like that. www.dragondata.co.uk/hardware/Drag%2032%20pippin.html If the regulator is touching the heatsink that could be the only problem.
@AndyLundell5 жыл бұрын
I wish somebody could explain why they do it that way. Wouldn't it be so much easier for everybody if the tabs were at ground?
@Psychlist19725 жыл бұрын
@@AndyLundell I assume it's because that's the line that is heating up.
@witeshade5 жыл бұрын
@@AndyLundell they do it for heat dissipation. by being able to clamp the regulator to an isolated heat sink, or put a mica insulator between them, you're able to dump out a massive amount of heat, allowing much higher performance from the single part. It may seem like an inconvenience, but it's actually a very beneficial tradeoff.
@chrisg65975 жыл бұрын
@@AndyLundell The reason is quite complex and requires knowledge of chip fabrication to understand it fully, however the tab is normally connected to the substrate of the chip. It was preferred at the time (and oprobably still is) to use P type substrates during the fabrication process. This P type substrate will in the case of the 78/79 series regulators be at the most -ve voltage of the device, 0v (GND) in the case of 78 series +ve regulators and -ve in, in the case of 79 series -ve regulators.
@mikester12905 жыл бұрын
I had one of these when I was younger and I loved it. Ive been waiting a long time for a proper review on one, last time I checked youtube there was basically nothing, so thanks for that, looking forward to the next episode!
@andy65765 жыл бұрын
My first computer! Despite its quirks and obsession with the colour green, I absolutely LOVED it. A handful of legitimately great games (Chuckie Egg, Time Bandit, Cuthbert in the Jungle, Donkey King and many more).
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
@@ct6502c You got used to it. Sort of.
@rshort42965 жыл бұрын
Same..! 😀 But don't forget Ring of Darkness and Return of the Ring.! ..and my dad was addicted to Cuthbert goes digging.
@andy65765 жыл бұрын
"Cuthbert goes digging"! A game that plays WAY better than the arcade game it rips off ("Space Panic"). Me and my dad played "Franklin's Tomb" (text adventure) quite a lot.
@rshort42965 жыл бұрын
@@andy6576 Yup, remember that one too. We were so easily pleased back in the day.
@heberdua5 жыл бұрын
Great video, can't wait to see the rest of the episodes. I also find it very cool that you now have a LAB !!! :)
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
"Lets take it to the lab" is my new favourite thing to say!
@chriso84855 жыл бұрын
My first full Retro Man Cave watch, love the high quality production. It reminds me of a TV programme from the 80s. All fits together beautifully
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris!
@dekeltal5 жыл бұрын
My first computer. Got it about 30 years ago as a birthday present. Spent hours programming it (and also quite a lot of time waiting for games to load through the cassette player...)
@TheRetroArchive5 жыл бұрын
This is timely and awesome as I literally pulled my Dragon (my first computer) out of the loft at the weekend. I was wondering about checking the power and giving it a once over before switching it on as it's not been used in decades.
@hubzcaps5 жыл бұрын
dude awsome u still have one...
@TheRetroArchive5 жыл бұрын
more! yeah it's my family's original first computer, remember being in Dixons at 5 years old with my Dad when we bought it. It's only in the KZbin days that I've learnt that the CoCo was designed to use NTSC artifacts to get more colour in high res mode. For us poor UK Dragon users high res meant black & white for games like Donkey King and Speed Racer.
@Doobie30105 жыл бұрын
Funny,always remembered seeing "Dragon 32" on 8-bit game conversion lists when i owned speccys/C64`s,first time seeing the actual machine.Nice!
@a5005 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to part II.
@Commander645 жыл бұрын
Me too, this thing looks cool!
@TheVintageApplianceEmporium5 жыл бұрын
Love this video, thanks for making it! I’ve had a Dragon in my collection for many years and always enjoyed potching with it. I now live less than three miles away from where they made them! Although I’m currently writing this message from Brazil :-D
@Rik_D5 жыл бұрын
I remember being on Holiday in Bridlington when i was a kid. Got chatting to some other Kid at the beach who happened to be into computers. He had a Dragon. The only person I ever met who had one, and I had another mate with a Tatung Einstein!
@bazza56995 жыл бұрын
entering the dragon :) nice one i was really surprised it was so clean inside.. no dust. amazing.. neil you ever thought of getting a metal workers apron for when you're at the other desk..lol
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Haha that could add some drama. Maybe a blacksmiths hammer on the desk and a hot furnace behind me also?
@bazza56995 жыл бұрын
@@RMCRetro yeah defo.. i was just thinking arghhhh you're jacket is gunna get ruined if your doing soldering or using chemicals..
@oldhedders5 жыл бұрын
Intrigued. Was dimly aware of this as a kid. It seemed impossibly sophisticated to us Spectrum-owning plebs. Looking forward to seeing it up and running!
@undergroundbass946fm5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the legendary Dragon 32. My Welsh neighbour's children had one and we spent many hours learning how to code on it and made a great Breakout clone, (no music). I thought it was a fantastic machine and I was quite jealous of the proper keyboard, (Spectrum 48k owner here). I can't wait for part two and I hope the machine turns out to be as good as my memory insists it was. Thank you for such entertaining videos and I can't wait for part two.
@ozzydio72335 жыл бұрын
I've gotten your video recommended and I'm glad that the youtube algorithm worked in my favor. I love how dedicated you show off the hardware, and your calm voice and the overall serious style of your video is a nice change of pace on youtube nowadays!
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you, I'm glad you found the channel and hope you'll stick around!
@ozzydio72335 жыл бұрын
@@RMCRetro Just subbed, and I'm ready for part 2!
@MegaManNeo5 жыл бұрын
I love how clean your particular unit is from inside. But also otherwise it makes a very clean look as far as internal arrangement goes.
@fiatpandaman9995 жыл бұрын
first vid I have watched and I have to say exceptional production quality, really nice work and really enjoyed. Thanks
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to The Cave!
@meson1835 жыл бұрын
The _DRAGON32_ Talk about memories. Let me mention this adventure game: _Madness and the Minotaur._ Me and my friend had loads of fun playing that. Awesome.
@outtheredude5 жыл бұрын
The quarter of me that's Welsh felt a strong urge to join in with the anthem. Nice little early '80s machine that I read about in computer magazines and books from the library.
@SuperJet_Spade5 жыл бұрын
The dragon will wake again. Also, the Dragon32 did remind me a bit of the TRS-80 just by looking at the keyboard.
@sargieboi93155 жыл бұрын
The power 'Enters the Dragon'. Bravo
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
*takes a bow*
@PaulioBee5 жыл бұрын
It was around the six minute mark that I noticed some of the backing music reminds me of Depeche Mode's synth sound. All good!
@NathanChisholm0415 жыл бұрын
He always has great music in his videos.
@GadgetUK1645 жыл бұрын
Lovely first part to the Dragon 32 there!
@LesNewell5 жыл бұрын
That brings back memories. I had a Dragon 32 and it was a hardware hacker's dream compared to the Sinclair and Commodore offerings. After wearing out two keyboards I ended up hacking in a keyboard from an industrial terminal. The keyboard had a different matrix so I had to write custom drivers for it that were kept in a home made 8K battery backed static ram module. That old MS basic was really easy to hook into to do things like that. The I/O port got used for all sorts of projects including running a home made scanner! OK, the scanner was black and white with really poor resolution but it did work. At one point I even had a mouse hooked to the I/O port.
@Jamal_Tyrone5 жыл бұрын
My Auntie was the only person I knew who owned a Dragon 32 and she mostly played Space Invaders on it.
@RDJ1345 жыл бұрын
I never heard of this system, and got my attention. I love old home computers, specialy in the 80's there where a ton of now forgoten systems.
@NeverlandSystemZor5 жыл бұрын
Any computer with a name like "Dragon" sounds like fun to restore and play with! :D
@dunebasher19715 жыл бұрын
They were pretty awful computers! Essentially just a rebadged TRS-80 Colour Computer. Hopelessly underpowered for graphics and sound by the standards of the time, and it couldn't even do lower-case characters.
@nikamota5 жыл бұрын
We always walked passed this computer in John Menzies..although we did have a little tickle of the keyboard.. So interesting to learn more about this machine and it's history.
@spacedock8735 жыл бұрын
Great to see another Dragon 32! I had one as my first computer - my parents bought it for me for passing my O Levels. Went on the bus to Boots in Hull to collect it. Wanted it for the 6809 CPU - as you said, MUCH better than the Z80 or 6502. I was more interested in machine code programming than games. Many thanks for not falling into the trap of calling it a "CoCo clone" - you are absolutely correct in pointing out that they were both implementations of the reference design provided by Motorola in the 6883 datasheet. I note that the 6883 in your machine is actually a SN74LS783N which IIRC is a Texas Instruments version built under licence as a second source. The graphics were indeed very limited and garish thanks (?) entirely to the 6847 which was part of the reference design. I ended up selling mine to a cleaner at my University after I bought a Dragon 64. Amazingly the notification of the video being posted came through while I was sitting at my desk designing my own 6809 based computer as a fun project! Good luck with the restoration. Great that the transformer is present and working - they usually seem get lost or blow up! The 7905 is definitely suspect - let's just hope it hasn't taken all the RAM chips with it, but even if it has replacements can be obtained and you could take the opportunity to socket them. Looking forward to part 2.
@TheLemminkainen5 жыл бұрын
It was also sold as Finlux Dragon 32/64 here in Finland. It wasnt popular but quite many were sold.
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Thank you I'll include that in part 3, it was also sold under other names which we'll explore in that episode
@mrjsv49355 жыл бұрын
Cool, didn't know this :) It's then another "Finnish" computer, like Salora Fellow & Manager ;)
@TheLemminkainen5 жыл бұрын
@@mrjsv4935 yes but Salora converted manager for real in local use. Finnish kb and modded basic. www.tietokonemuseo.net/tietokoneita/dragon-32-64-finlux/ look
@TheLemminkainen5 жыл бұрын
@@RMCRetro yeah thanx Iknow US Tano brand tried to sell these.
@telbee5 жыл бұрын
@@RMCRetro Yep, I read that there was a "Farmfax" version...
@68000Mark5 жыл бұрын
Ah the computer that introduced me to 6809 assembly having already learnt z80 and 6502. I liked the 6809 as it had a 16 bit register D. Never had a Dragon 32 though, I used one at work on a "computer appreciation" course as an apprentice which was a laugh as I was already writing games in assembly on my 'Speccy.
@Lorfarius5 жыл бұрын
I really love the lab setup! What a great idea.
@TheRetroShed5 жыл бұрын
We love an underdog computer in the shed and the Dragon 32 is just such a machine! Remember seeing it in Boots for the first time as a kid!
@TheMalMeninga5 жыл бұрын
I always wanted one of these when I was a kid. Only ever saw it in magazines! Glad to see it here.
@gmcnewlook5 жыл бұрын
A few years ago someone on eBay was selling new old stock of these, I know of a KZbinr who bought one (vwestlife) and demonstrated it
@nordri95425 жыл бұрын
Proud Dragoneer here. Great machine - so many fond memories.
@troogroove93185 жыл бұрын
This was my first computer, I still have it with some cartridge games one called cave hunter. I learnt to program on this and it started my career. Also don’t forget the later Dragon 64.
@aitchpea60115 жыл бұрын
I went through a few years of 8-bit collecting in the mid 90s, and my first acquisition was one of these Welsh beauties. Never did much with it because I soon picked up an Electron (my childhood computer) and various accompanying addons and hardware, but I certainly had fun digging around in Microsoft BASIC on the Dragon in the meantime. Later came a Commodore 8032SK but soon after that I had to dispose of my beginnings of a collection to make room for a newly-made human.
@Spitefire65 жыл бұрын
Even in a KZbin video Old Land of My Fathers gives me goosebumps every time! You've just earned yourself a new sub from a proud Welshman! Loved the vid (regardless of the Welshness :P)
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Hehe thank you!
@gmcnewlook5 жыл бұрын
Vwestlife demonstrated one of these a few years back nice to see another channel showing this
@Charlie-Cat.5 жыл бұрын
Having a boring Thursday night. But after seeing Neil in action with his pro skills, it helps turn into a exciting evening for sure. 8^) Anthony..
@Retrobution5 жыл бұрын
Nice Welsh anthem at the start there! Brought a tear to my eye lol (as its used for a computer this time and not rugby haha!)
@NathanChisholm0415 жыл бұрын
Very cool indeed! Can you start leaving links to the music you use? It's always really cool sounding electronic music. Cheers
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, tracks are in the description. I source them from a library I pay for rights to use so I can't link them but a quick youtube search might help you using the titles in the description.
@NathanChisholm0415 жыл бұрын
@@RMCRetro Thanks mate I'll check it out!
@ItsCrapContent5 жыл бұрын
Love this and hope you get it up and running.... X
@mikehibbett33015 жыл бұрын
I worked for a small electronics company in Crawley, called CTM, who decided to distribute the Dragon. I spent my youth in that store playing on their TRS80, and ended up working there before heading to university. After the TRS80 I loved the Dragon 32, and customers loved it. But two issues hit us. Systems were delivered dead on arrival, which I had to repair. The issue was the PSU - the weight of the heatsink was not held well by the screws - you can see that in the video. When dropped by delivery people, the heatsink would cause PSU tracks to break. I became very efficient at spotting and fixing these issues. The next problem was supply - we had huge interest - but dragon could not supply. According to the owner of CTM, that was instrumental in killing the company. They closed while I was in my first year of university, in 1983. Very sad. I was allowed to play with their TRS80 on a saturday in a small store as a kid, I guess because it was a good advert for the TRS80. Spent all of my pocket money in that store too, but no regrets!
@Richiecandylover5 жыл бұрын
Just gonna pick up my Dragon computer with my paracetamol today! 🤣🤣 I only think of a pharmacy when I think boots 🤣🤣
@Lucretia90003 жыл бұрын
I had no idea these were from Wales! I remember seeing one in Tandy. A mechanical keyboard? That's mad for that time.
@GeVeBeGaming5 жыл бұрын
You deserve so many more subs, keep it up. (always entertaining)
@PaulDavies42 жыл бұрын
I grew up with a Dragon32 as a kid, indeed these computers were made a couple of miles from my home, at Kenfig Industrial Estate, the building is now a chocolate factory. I remember wanting my mum to put a game on which played 10 green bottles (nursey rhyme), though she always wanted to play Frogger and watch me die at it!
@Swedemon5 жыл бұрын
Great channel! Never heard of this system, maybe its because I'm in the US or that its a few years before my hay day. I first gamed on the atari 5200 and fat mac.
@dunebasher19715 жыл бұрын
There was an attempt to sell the 64K version in the USA as the Tano Dragon. A company called California Digital ended up buying all the unsold stock, and it was possible to buy new-in-box Tano Dragons from them until they finally sold the last remaining unit in mid-2017.
@stevethepocket5 жыл бұрын
"And so, upon entering the Dragon..." I see what you did there.
@reviewaccount36125 жыл бұрын
I had one of these 😍😍😍😍 my mum bought it for me for my birthday.
@reviewaccount36125 жыл бұрын
@@TheLevitatingChin nope just didn't know anything about computers at all.
@MrDuncl5 жыл бұрын
According to the Bank of England £175 in 1982 is the equivalent of £606 in 2018. So the equivalent of being bought a new 2019 Ipad Air this year. Lucky Ross
@obadiahnormal80705 жыл бұрын
Ant Thompson, aren't you a bit old for My Computer is Better than Yours?
@KevinJones-bt7ib5 жыл бұрын
Wow I remember a lad down the road had a dragon32, I never seen it just heard about it, and I remember thinking as a kid wow that sounds ace ha ha!!!
@BazzaHSpeccymad5 жыл бұрын
Always thought these were/are great looking machines. Great vid as ever
@paulheywood40335 жыл бұрын
My first computer, taught myself to program on mine as the tape loading stopped working unless you could get the tape recorder settings just right.
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
It didn't like the volume setting too high!
@stephenvalente32965 жыл бұрын
I had one of these. Software wasn’t always easy to find compared to the Spectrum & C64. Think I took mine apart in the end to see what was in there and shocked at how empty the case actually was!
@charlesjmouse5 жыл бұрын
Another fine video, thank you. A couple of thoughts: -If your RAM does turn out to be damaged it might be worth replacing it with slightly more modern, and reliable, RAM that only requires 5v - a common conversion with Colecovision consoles if you need to look for info. -Some slight mods; Dual-boot ROM including Tandy's CoCo ROM as well as Dragon's and a bit of keyboard rewiring can give you full CoCo compatibility -Speaking of Coleco systems might I suggest trying to get hold of a Coleco ADAM? Such an interesting system and once you've worked around it's less compelling 'features' it's got some very interesting foibles and is actually a very capable 8 bit machine.
@cyrixinstead45924 жыл бұрын
My Dragon 32 had that exact same bulge in the logo sticker, same place and everything! Great machine BTW and bug diver is a fun little game, I converted it for fun to the VIC 20 and Commodore 16 in the past.
@garym06305 жыл бұрын
I remembered my parents buying the Dragon 32 in the mid 80's. Always remember them playing Jonny Reb. Also remember there being a space type game that had a very early type of speech synthesis.
@russwhitaker54455 жыл бұрын
when you mention the 6502 8:02 witch was used in the commodore 64 and the zx80 you forgot 1 the apple II and the apple II+ and the apple IIe, and as far as the apple IIc witch was rolled out after the IIe came with a 6510
@endersftd5 жыл бұрын
Yaaay a new trash to treasure!!! Man, those keycaps look almost exactly like those used on the Atari 800 (non-XL)
@kb3wmh5 жыл бұрын
emptythevoid _ yeah, the keys are really similar. The case shape also kind of looks like an 800 (though much smaller)
@zxkim81365 жыл бұрын
Nice one Neil it's a nice looking machine and they could have made it better especially with the video output. Looking forward to part 2 mate ....😀😀😀 Kim 😁😁😁
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kim!
@gregster295 жыл бұрын
The Dragon 32 is on computer that I've always overlooked. I look forward to seeing how your T2T works out.
@Jehannum20005 жыл бұрын
My first and only microcomputer was a Dragon 32. Its the only machine I had so I did learn a lot about it.
@wysiwyg20065 жыл бұрын
Have mine in the loft in box with PSU, it still works
@Commander645 жыл бұрын
Get it down and display/play it! 😁
@josephnealeUKscratchcards5 жыл бұрын
Nice video and can’t wait for part 2
@Breakfast_of_Champions5 жыл бұрын
I really wish someone would make a final and definitive 8-bit machine with the 6809, accelerated graphics, SID+YM sound, OS-9... one can only dream 🤤
@colorcomputerstore4575 жыл бұрын
Oh, you mean the CoCo 3 with audio via a Game Master Cartridge or mini multipak with PSG sound and running off a Gime-X. Yep. That's what you want.
@Breakfast_of_Champions5 жыл бұрын
@@colorcomputerstore457 Yep CoCo or Trash-80 style but with sound and gfx and memory. The 6809 and NitrOS-9 are very fancy but as 8-bit stuff still totally workable by hobbyists and amateurs.
@JippyUK5 жыл бұрын
Loved Part 1 of this. Reminds me of my childhood, can't wait to see whether you are able to resurrect this one from the grave. On a side note what was the music you had playing when you lift the cover off the machine. It's from a game... can't remember which one. Until next time Tony Hart
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJLbfqydltqVl5I - I'd missed that one out in the description so have added it now. Thanks Jipstick
@Lurker19795 жыл бұрын
The product design of the Dragon32 kind of reminds me of an Apple II.
@kcharles88575 жыл бұрын
First I've ever seen or heard of this system. Great Channel (National Anthem good too)
@andrethib5 жыл бұрын
loving the new set
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@organiccold5 жыл бұрын
Nice found Neil. Hope the second part comes quickly :p
@RetroGG-745 жыл бұрын
Love your content sir !
@davidlewis17875 жыл бұрын
My best mate had one and his geeky brother didn’t play games but write obscure programs. I think he grew up to be either an accountant or a serial killer
@binkman8535 жыл бұрын
Great content - Thanks! Look forward to the next one.
@NorthWay_no5 жыл бұрын
I have an untested Dragon 64 stashed away in a box somewhere; it was too cheap to pass on. Turned out to be an even better deal than I thought as it came with 50 original tapes!
@mrb39915 жыл бұрын
Wow i had ones of these, my first computer was the commodore vic 20 then then Dragon 32 , great video thanks
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR5 жыл бұрын
That computer uses the MC6809E which is the same CPU used in the CMI Fairlight V Synthesizer.
@alhartman665 жыл бұрын
I have two of the American Tano Dragon 64 Computers. I bought the second one because I lost the power supply to the first one, and since there aren't any on the used market, it was the only way to get one.
@sarcosis15 жыл бұрын
Watching this in Wales. 🏴 :)
@pulsemyne74885 жыл бұрын
Not the only computer made in Wales. There was also the SAM coupe in 1989. I actually still own one and it still works. Very interesting machine.
@RMCRetro5 жыл бұрын
Good spot well done and yes a very interesting machine that's very expensive to collect now. I'll be sure to give it a mention before the series is out
@daishi55715 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the common mistake of claiming it was a Coco clone wasn't made. A TV could be placed on the back of the case without issue. My PSU use to get rocket hot, so much so I drilled a few holes in it. My Dragon survived a very angry teenager (me) that frequently punched the keyboard, and once being thrown across the room at the wall by my mum. One tough system.
@Turnbull505 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine in the 1980's bought a Dragon Computer and on Christmas day he phoned me saying he could not get it to work. When I went to his house I found out he had forced the mains power cable into the cassette port (I have no idea how he managed this) and totally blown the computer.
@Commander645 жыл бұрын
Brilliant I've never even heard of this before but I found this really interesting.
@jameslewis26355 жыл бұрын
That case looks just about the right size for a mini-itx build, and it has a mechanical keyboard as standard you say...