Drama in the title race + podium for the Marquez brothers 🍾 | MotoGP Podcast

[@CrashMotoGP]

🚨Apologies for any audio/video issues. Tried to fix them as best as we could.

[@obsidian....]

No worries, it was good enough 👍

[@abc2662]

Suppose that Pecco would have catched Martin and managed to overtake him: the most Bagnaia would have achieved was recovering the 5 points he lost on Saturday, and Martin would still be the championship leader. Martin's ego doesn't allow him to be defeated on track, so he handled 25 points as a gift to Bagnaia.

[@joeholden2528]

No way either would have done what MM did at the weekend. Marc is still the best rider IMO.

[@Harryjones05]

Neither of them needed to because they didn't bin it badly in practice.... Pecco finished 1st, did you watch the race?

[@rileyherring9782]

Pecco will be hard to beat now

[@CrashMotoGP]

Certainly looks that’s way, he’s been incredible.

[@hassankhan2799]

Again , lovely podcast

[@GregOwens-vh4se]

Thanks for posting. Feel free to make the videos longer.

[@CrashMotoGP]

Noted!

[@Les-c2d]

Great podcast...

[@lucaaqui2697]

I think we better put our feet back on the ground when we think about the Trackhouse bikes there in the front, cause we all forgot Pecco didn't have the second time attack due a yellow flag and MM has been hampered by Bradl. So luck has definitely played a key role about Trackhouse first row

[@kevinp6688]

Its very odd for me to see MM93 celebrating the 2nd Place like a Win where he was the clear favoirite with the past records. Surprised to see he is taking the 2nd Place so well. Does it mean he really came to terms that PB1 & JM89 are in a different league. Its not the usual behaviour of MM93, He is never happy anything other than a Win

[@monchoiglesia208]

He was very happy because the 2 drivers were on the podium.

[@Harryjones05]

I agree, 2nd is first loser, MM never used to accept that... MM will never have had as strong a team mate as Pecco, Pecco could end mm's career....

[@cryogeneric]

He's just happy to be competitive again. I doubt he'll be as happy next season. He's going to want wins.

[@damirdamir1180]

He is taking 2nd places well because he knows that GP24 is 5 to 15 seconds faster than GP23 over race distance, depending on track. And he thinks like "My bike is 10 seconds slower than your bike Pecco but I'm only 1/3/5 seconds behind you. I beat you easy when I get same bike as you😎".

[@vanngir3180]

​@@damirdamir1180so how did he beat Enea & Frankie?

[@burnttoast9890]

Still hoping for a marc victory if there's aragon !

[@CrashMotoGP]

Got a great chance around there, but he needs perfect weekend!

[@magyare10]

​@@CrashMotoGPExactly, he can't keep doing these recovery rides.

[@Korculanac11]

and Phillip Island

[@Esstee44]

I don't know if others saw the TNT interview with Frankie Carchedi, but he seemed completely lost on what happened in Germany: technical issues with the bike that pushed marquesz to try to save that lowside (and turned into a high side). More bike issues later on causing Marc to lost time in Q2 before Bradl blocked him, and then going with a base FP1 setup for the main GP race. I love Gresini, but they don't seem to be prepared to handle a championship caliber rider like MM, where they need to be almost perfect from FP1 to the main GP race, especially with the disadvantage of being on a GP23. I can see why MM wanted not only a factory bike, but on a factory team.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Nothing wrong with Gresini team, if there was Marc would be the fist to say, in fact he’s said many times before he really rates the team As for Frankie he turned around Digi’s career when it was about to go down the pan and was Mir’s crew chief when he won the WC Certainly wasn’t a technical issue that caused Marc to lose the front at the waterfall, cold tyre rider error, he wasn’t the only rider to go down there

[@MarkCasey-ub8sp]

Yet again the points go the rider who crashes the least.

[@RustyRacer29]

Jorge is Jorge - ego is his issue and I think always will be. It cost him the ride on the factory bike in 22 when he had 5 DNFs to finish 9th, where Enea finshed 3rd. Last year he had a lock on the title before poor choices and mistakes cost him the title. Looking like this year he will again be without a title, which I think will probably mean a career without one. If Pecco takes the title this year, he will probably be the odds-on favorite to take it next year too. Marc will definitely win some races, but I think he and Martin will cost each other the title in the long run. Oh, and awesome job by both Marc & Alex to both get on the podium.

[@ianjohnson1207]

Didn’t you also say Bezz wouldn’t be moving to Aprilia

[@RustyRacer29]

@@ianjohnson1207 - Yes, Bez moving was a shock to the team.

[@jiboo6850]

ego ?? he's rather nice. he just did a stupid mistake but he's doing less and less of them. so don't be too harsh, this dude is giving his all week in week out. he's the fastest rider on the grid. speed comes with some risks. Marquez knows very well that and he's been 8 time WC. that's the reality. and he's far from Marquez rate of crash.

[@CoralD19]

🔥🔥🔥

[@GregOwens-vh4se]

I can't believe Martin didn't try harder to get the bike up.

[@RustyRacer29]

Too much damage to the bike - quite obvious to the rider.

[@russianbot3131]

What a race poor Martin but joy for marquez brother and their Father

[@billsmart2532]

Marc Marquez, 7 is generous. If you give Martin an 8, you can't score Marquez above a 7. He crashes more than anybody, hurting the bike and himself. Never able to qualify on the 1st or 2nd row, sometimes 3rd row. He overtakes a lot, but only because he has to. All the overtakes are dramatic and exciting to see, but really all signs of an aging rider.

[@russianbot3131]

We'll see this year's good, but let's see him red

[@Esstee44]

U know he was on pole at Jerez, qualified on the front 2 rows a few times, and is well behind binder for crashes this year, and is the top GP23 rider and #3 in the championship. If MM is a less than a 6, would u score everyone else on the grid a 5 or less then? 🤔

[@evem1481]

Not so much about aging .. he just ride the ducati 5/6 months 😅.. still not familiar.. but good job gp23 top 3 WC …

[@billsmart2532]

@@Esstee44 Points total is the final judge.

[@JehangirMushtaq]

Broken left index finger .bruised ribs.p13 to p 2 this is legend stuff no words to describe this champion. World loves u .hater where r u.

[@jamesastbury15]

Haters? Celebrating pecco’s win probably 👍😂

[@ori2425]

Martin should talk to Pedrosa...

[@Tompalino80]

He NEEDS a proper therapy 🤣😎

[@luciagil9008]

I see Marc needs his bikes (and himself) a little bit broken lol

[@GregOwens-vh4se]

Marc is doing well. However the more the 2024bikes are dialed in the less confident I am in a win.

[@violetamocanu6895]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@1AOR1]

If Alex can beat digi in the championship he will get the 3rd factory bike I think

[@ab2774-k6i]

I would give Pecco Bagnaia a 9.8 because he hasn't won every race otherwise I'd give him a 10.

[@yonnymestampo8389]

The GP23 not only is not as fast as the GP24 but according to the riders its more difficult to ride. All the GP22 riders that went to the GP23 say its harder to ride than the GP22 and the GP24. Also the performance differences between last year's bike and the current year bike is getting greater as the season goes on becase there's little to no evolution on the GP23. Remember last year the GP22 was always threatening poles and wins but this year the only rider capable of sniffing a win so far with the GP23 is MM so I would say a score of 9 is probably more deserved than an 8, given that he had to adapt to a completely different style of riding, no experience and knoledge in setups to quickly get everything right on fridays that are so critical with the sprint. If the gap between 23 and 24 bike was similar to what we had from 22 to 23, MM would have already won but we can see the gap is quite larger because look at Bez, Digia, Alex and compare them to what they did last year.

[@Harryjones05]

MM came to the Ducati with no reference on the bike whereas all the other riders had their previous setups and riding styles ruined with the new Michelin tyre, which takes time to adjust to... MM has still been amazing but this factor has been overlooked for the other riders...

[@cryogeneric]

I have suspected this much. I also recall the factory riders being unhappy with the 23 at the beginning of last season. So it may be that the 22 was fast and easy to setup, but the 23 is more difficult to setup, but faster than the 22 when it's setup correctly.

[@damirdamir1180]

GP21 was competitive in 2022, Bastianini won 4 races that season. GP22 was competitive in 2023, Bezzecchi won 3 races and finished 3rd in the standings with GP22 last year. In november 2023 everybody including bookies thought "If Bastianini and Bezzecchi can win 4/3 races with an old bike than Marc can win at least 7/8 races with old bike. End 2023 Marc Marquez was bookies favorite for the title, odds for Marc were 2,0,. For Bagnaia 2,8 and for Martin 4,0. But Ducati made a very big update with 2024 bike and GP23 has 0 chance to beat GP24.

[@vanngir3180]

if GP23's MM can beat other GP24 of Frankie's & Enea's why can't he beat Pecco's & Martin's GP24?

[@Harryjones05]

@@vanngir3180 this is my point too, Frankie was fast in Sachsensring but pecco and Martin are in another league, and MM is struggling to match their pace even on his favourite tracks... MM has a huge task and strongest ever team mate in pecco next season, something he's never faced before!! 👀

[@michaelniemi]

Martin will be back & likely will regain the lead. Let's not forget that he was the fastest out there. Unfortunately, crashes happen. This is only second year being in a championship fight.

[@user-rg4vz4mb4o]

Everyone keeps saying he’s the fastest rider yet he doesn’t have the most race wins and is not in the championship lead.

[@Tompalino80]

This will be his LAST championship fight 🤣 Still a plonker 💪😎

[@michaelniemi]

@Tompalino80 no, I suspect that he will be in the top for years to come.

[@michaelniemi]

@user-rg4vz4mb4o worked out for Mir. Crashing is a part of pushing the limits to be the best. People forget Pecco in 2022, he had 5 DNF's. Martin has 2. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves.

[@rudranauth.persaud6248]

Love you guys but top saying Martin helped Peco. Martin fell off and Peco won…

[@ianjohnson1207]

Think Marquez put too too much pressure on himself, everyone else and he himself thought this was his first chance to win on a Ducati Still a remarkable comeback As for Martin, Neil Hodgson said after the race most people don’t realise how close these guys are to going down every lap, their on the absolute limit of the tyres, you’ll hear the top guys saying how many times they were closing the front in the last few laps

[@russianbot3131]

Marc knew he had to get passed Binder quick watch the first lap again