Draper Takes On Kopriva; Thiem vs Moro Canas | Munich Highlights Day 1

Jack Draper takes on Vit Kopriva, whilst Dominic Thiem takes on Alejandro Moro Canas in Munich day 1!
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[@J.-M.]

I think we're seeing the last months of Dominic Thiem's career. I can't imagine him going on like this in 2025, and judging from his own words, he probably can't either. His comeback which started in 2022 is probably one of the most tragically failed comebacks of all time. But what a fantastic, unique and irreplaceable player he was. Still a treat to watch, even as a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of his former self.

[@pauljohnson6019]

Doleminic Thiem.

[@iagomonte5937]

Yeah, his game is just out, that explosive forehands and consistent powerful backhands left the chat after his injuries, really sad for him.

[@pauljohnson6019]

@@iagomonte5937 He got jinxed by Nadal.

[@bigblackbearhunter]

Yes, you are right !

[@fred3r1k]

Shadowbanned himself?

[@russianmegabot5272]

This Hurts. Remember , that for a Short period of time, thiem was a Clay GOD. This feels Just wrong

[@esshoul]

weak perish, basic rule making anything long-term effective

[@Alexander-dt2eq]

the only thing that feels wrong is that Munich ATP gave him a wildcard. What for? answer: for winning 1 slam on hardcourt, he did not even win Munich before.

[@edmundwolf3905]

Thiem was a clay god without any clay masters 1000s or French opens?

[@Marc-vk7rl]

​@@Alexander-dt2eqgerman tournaments and austrian tournaments often give each other wildcards. And munich is especially close to Austria

[@MistahhMingus]

@@edmundwolf3905idk dude 🙄🙄🙄🙄if beating Nadal on clay means anything to you he’s done that 4-5 times

[@luciobecker2637]

Thiem is such a good person, always correct and respectful. And still a great player. I'm sorry that there is something in him not working well like before wrist-injury. I watch him play and he seems the same champion of past years. Hope he will not give up. Greetings from Rome Italy

[@seanbinder8316]

We need a Federer-Thiem coaching relationship. He needs to be inspired at this point in his career.

[@guillezorro]

Nice idea but it's Thiem's injuries that are his biggest hindrance

[@JohnSmith-or4ed]

Does Federer have any experience as a coach? A great player doesn’t automatically make a great coach.

[@edwardgarner1299]

@@JohnSmith-or4ed : Federer was essentially the primary creator of the Laver Cup tournaments. Although he played in the tournaments prior to his retirement, he had been asked to be "Captain" of his European team after embarrassing losses in 2022 and 2023, but declined. He admits to occasionally "coaching" his kids, but no one else.

[@Birdylockso]

No, at age 30, Thiem needs to be inspired to move on with his life.

[@fabiogurgel1]

My gosh, thiem had a super backhand. Now he slices most of the time. A weak serve and a weak forehand. So sad his injuries destroyed him

[@J.-M.]

The thing is that his backhand was the only shot that was as good as it was in his prime when he started his comeback in 2022. It got even better in the following months, I still remember his indoor matches in October 2022 when his backhand was possibly better than ever. The highlights still show those insanely fantastic backhands he was hitting there. But even his backhand has deteriorated in 2023, and nothing has improved… So he now doesn't have any first-class shot anymore.

[@kenkozawa9810]

Unless he is built like Rafa, his game was always going to be hard to pull off for a long successful career. Very physical play style and sadly pretty inefficient. He had a very good career either way!!

[@imrizzle83]

I don’t think he slices very often - even if he did, Dimitrov and Dan Evans show it’s not always a weakness. I think he now just rolls his backhand in without the firepower it had before, so although it still looks nice it isn’t going to trouble anyone

[@J.-M.]

@@kenkozawa9810 Exactly. I was already feeling 8 or 9 years ago that his body may not last too long. When so many people were saying with absolute certainty he would win "many Roland Garros titles" after Rafa retires, I was already thinking he might get too old and irrelevant when Rafa retires with his physically taxing playing style (they simultaneously massively underestimated Rafa's longevity and overrestimated Dominic's durability). He may even retire earlier than Rafa...

[@J.-M.]

@@imrizzle83 He was already slicing very often in 2019 and especially in 2020, it was a major tactic that brought him his US Open title. He may have gotten into this habit a little bit too much over time, which is what happens to many ageing one-handers. Most of them keep slicing more when they get older, weaker, slower and less confident.

[@Sambuccashake]

I think a part of Domi's problem is that he plays most shots and rallies on the back foot. Falling away from the court, moving back after each strike. Very rarely is he taking the ball with his weight forward, coming into the court. He's letting himself being bullied and it's sad to see.

[@wolfypics7339]

Because he can't generate the power or spins he once had any more due to the wrist injuries he's had. Like Wawrinka another powerhouse whos sadly lost his power since all the knee surgery and age catching up

[@danguee1]

You have a good point. A bit like Murray was on the forehand all his career. Falling away from the court messes up your balance, messes with consistency and ultimately robs you of power.

[@user-hd5ee2rc6g]

It is so sad what has happened to Thiem. He used to be one of the best players in the world than he suffered that wrist injury and has not been the same since. I hope he can get back even in the top 50 before he retires.

[@Deano_Longley]

Great win for Draper,ever improving on the red clay🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[@Marino2018]

I still don't get all the hate on Dominic. If it were someone like Roger, Rafa, or even great guys like Monfils or Dimitrov who were in a low point in their careers after recovering from an injury, everyone would be rooting for them to recover and send nothing but positivity to them.

[@Bowl-tt8ec]

People don’t hate him, and still want to him to go back to his old self, but they just don’t think it’s possible, and don’t want to see him keep losing early on I think

[@GeorgeT370]

First...there is little to no "hate" on him...most people respect and like him....and second...he`s trying for such a long time now go become the player he was again...this is a failed comeback...it´s taking too long...that`s the problem....

[@imrizzle83]

Tell that to Andy Murray - one of the greats people keep telling to retire just because he’s now top 50-30 depending on his form. It is a shame for Domi though - he doesn’t seem to want to adjust to his new level but his defensive playing style is very difficult for him to win against anyone now

[@javiert.592]

if, if, everyone, everyone...

[@EhDewd]

From reading KZbin comments I'm pretty sure that comes regardless, as there are lot of haters in the tennis world. Andy and Rafa are getting a lot of "he should retire already" comments these days. Heck, just because Nole hasn't won this year people are saying that to him and he's current world number 1!

[@deanryanmartin]

J. Draper is hitting deeper. His groundstrokes are a killer!

[@jessecdh]

Guys, the negativity on Domi is unnecessary. Of course i miss him winning too, but i just enjoy seeing his highlight reel (win or lose) and every extra match we get to see that artwork of a backhand, is a blessing!!

[@ComfortableTool86]

After Monte-Carlo I forgot it was possible to see the ball this well on clay. The coverage of that tourney was shit

[@pvsrod]

it sucks to watch Thiem regularly losing to average journeymen nowadays

[@Geol3dg3]

Journeymen😂😂

[@blackklopi2497]

idk if its thiems wrist but how hard can it be for someone to tell him to stop playing every ball around the fking T. every stroke is so short that even a 15 year old would be able to attack every one of them

[@karepy]

I’m guessing you are a top 100 arp player to have the balls to write this

[@al2498]

You are completely right and only a few here are noticing / mentioning it. He puts that much physical / mental effort in each and every strike - and the output is a ball to the opponents T-line.

[@jbond1991]

So good to see Thiem contnuing to show a good fight. Always a fan. With all he has been through, its amazing to see him continuing to push

[@freaksy2073]

Well played Jack 👏👏👏

[@gianmarcoortu7764]

Dominic ❤ For ever grateful to see you playing tennis.

[@NabillMussa]

Despite losing it’s great to see Thiem back in action 👍

[@PDXNY]

I keep torturing myself by watching Thiem. He really needs to retire. That forehand and backhand are a fraction of what they used to be. Everything floats over the net. I’d like to remember him for the incredible tennis player he once was. Not this. 😔

[@meilstone]

That bad wrist... It just doesn't allow him to generate pace anymore. 😢

[@laflaks]

Go Jack !

[@_Kirtap_]

At this point we all agree that Thiem is done. Its heartbreaking.

[@Alexander-dt2eq]

he is not "done". its the new Thiem, as Thiem stated. i just do not get it, why the new Thiem wants to resign this year

[@stello61]

@@Alexander-dt2eq because the "new" Thiem won't even be able to qualify for ATP tournaments and keeps getting smoked in challengers.

[@Alexander-dt2eq]

@@stello61 new thiem started on atp tour, went to challenger tour, why not play futures?

[@carlosrgomezberas4386]

Draper is a nice player

[@hertor8803]

I think Jack can be a bit braver coming in to the net. Often he has a player deep in the back corner but stays on the baseline giving them a chance to recover. It would also have the benefit of shortening up the points when we know Jack can struggle physically in a match. Still a win is a win, hopefully more to come.

[@sanchojulianimallach9155]

I will always support Thiem. No matter what

[@gashok5231]

Theim ,shapovolov & berettini ... are some of the players lost their career due to injury😢 Even though most of injuries in his career nadal came back strong and wins most tittles Vamos Rafaaaa...❤

[@bonzwah1]

I honestly feel like the way forward for thiem is to reconstruct himself to focus exclusively on his backhand for offense. its clear his forehand will never be a weapon again, so I feel like he should just focus on defense on the forehand side and use his backhand side to construct his offense. doing this will, of course, never get him back to the top of the game...but I honestly think it would be a step above what he's doing now. - there was a point early on in his come back when he was playing much more aggressively with his backhand and playing pretty conservatively with his forehand, and I felt like he was a top 30 player doing that. He still had amazing confidence with his backhand at the time. Since then, I feel like his focus on trying to rekindle his forehand has cost him his backhand potency. now he is toothless on both wings. - I guess, though, that if he ever reached a point where he believed what I was saying (that he should give up on his forehand and try to find a new way to win) that he would just retire, unfortunately.

[@abhishekvanenooru2869]

this tournament has good video coverage good angles

[@ferranvcf9268]

Moro es un crack

[@seazestyt]

Poor Thiem. I never even heard about Moro Canas, ranked 240. It has been hard for Thiem to beat any tennis player ranked above 50. Let's play for his recovery. Right now is more psychological than anything else.

[@profan10]

Thiem groundstrokes have been lacking that bite that other players on tour have. His days are sadly over after that wrist injury.

[@discard_edits]

This set back is real howler but if somehow there is a chance of him getting on the line again the comback would be 🔥🔥

[@underqualified2527]

What happened to Thiem? I know there was an injury and all, but man he was #3 at some point!! So sad.

[@J.-M.]

So you know what happened. He was #3 before the injury. He could obviously never get back to his old level after the injury. It was a serious, complicated injury, the rehabilitation took 9 months, and the wrist was crucial for his forehand. He could never recover his old forehand quality after the wrist injury, the damage was probably irreversible. His biggest weapon is gone forever. Wrist injuries are some of the worst things for tennis players, plus his wrist has been acting up again lately. And he's getting old.

[@chemigame]

Thiem should get a great coach like rune did. He couldn't find it. Coach certainly would

[@richardgarrison8328]

Thiem looked like he could come back at the tail end of the 2022 season. We're a long way from there.

[@nlappo]

So sad to see Thiem not get through.. He doesn't have the same power he used to have in his groundstrokes that got him to the top.

[@AlejandroPikoulasPlata]

Thiem forehand was one of the best on the tour, now is very weak, all balls are short and without power. I think he should retire.

[@alexcarragher9101]

Thiem just doesn’t put half the amount of venom into his shots like he previously did . Sad to see he’s losing to players he really should be beating quite comfortably

[@jeffcohntennis]

Why did Thiem change his backhand technique? That shot wasn't the problem lol. Also, he needs to eat an energy bar before playing a match - his forehand looks like a high-schooler's

[@TheVicATube]

Forehand is his wrist backhand not sure maybe also the wrist. I guess it’s his goodbye tour.

[@SHVideografie]

It seems like Thiem has changed his backhand technique. Why?! That was the one shot that was still money the last 2 years. Is it the wrist? He seems to hit the ball so carefully, no confidence in ripping the ball anymore.

[@wilf18]

Can’t bare to see Domi like this

[@JokerCat9]

That 2nd set was straight up depressing.

[@JDCullum]

Well, the Thiem narrative is indeed a sorrowful one, but props to Moro for his power and intensity. He is capable of some top-class play and he completely overpowered Thiem.

[@shakirm2807]

Theim played less deep shots in the first set. Second set was fine, the momentum was with the opponent.

[@progaproga8308]

Жалко Тима, удачи и скорейшего выздоровления.

[@losretosderagnar2878]

Respect Thiem It´s a pity but this player doesn´t have a good drive like years ago. If Thiem can´t recover his best arm then it´s not posible that this player return to the elite. On clay he was a incredible player and now he can´t bet anybody. Only 30 years old.

[@orwell9579]

Not a good sign Thiem keeps slicing his backhand so much. Topspin or even flat bh was his biggest weapon before. I can imagine it has to be extremely frustrating for him to play like this.

[@user-es9vx2vm1w]

Guys, this is an agreement !!!!

[@Agent77X]

Looks like Thiem is a different player, less aggressive and no killer instinct!😂

[@Pablito2466]

I feel sorry for Thiem.

[@dtv2031]

I feel like Draper is still not playing the style that he should be playing. He should be aggressive similar to someone like Tsitsipas. Current he's a big powerful guy playing baseline grinder tennis.

[@carlosrequenaperez3664]

I miss old thiem

[@danguee1]

Draper hits *_WAAAAY_* too short on so many of his shots. Top players will pounce on that sh*t!

[@ToiletTennis]

Any day now Thiem :')

[@pukulu]

Thiem's groundstrokes lack depth compared to how I remember them when he was a top ten player.

[@chatchai130520]

Thiem still plays the same one-handed backhand. The results came out the same way.

[@andreasbacklund5895]

nothing is happening with Thiem's ball anymore...

[@PeteH0121]

I really feel for Thiem. Yet even with all the problems he has suffered, he is still a perfect sportsman at the net regardless of having lost to somebody he would have blown away easily prior to his injury. What a great guy. I hope he can recover his previous form but it's looking bleak now.

[@DeltoidBeast]

Wrist still bothers Thiem. I really hope he can solve it. Better not to play at all until that wrist is on 100%. If it cant heal properly, he is done. It is impossible to play high level tennis with that kind of injury.

[@karikoskinen5983]

I have always been a huge Thiem fan. I would love to see him win and compete. But the fact is, he is nearly an automatic win for anyone on the tour, his level is just lacking so much.

[@MrSaral1000]

I am a tennis player 20 years but what I see Thiems top spins are so crazy slow and easy to get it. He can not make straight attack to finish ball , always keep spinning up and giving huge time to opponent to make winner against him . How he can finish the ball like that . he is wasting huge egergy to keep spinnig high above net and result i he just get tired and tired... Somethings he has to change...

[@RealRohanKumar]

It gives me huge grief to see theim playing like this😢😢....God save him please 😢

[@hoangvannho8821]

Thiem champions ❤

[@Tronny]

Thiem has gotten worse since his return instead of better, It's sad to see but he just doesn't have the confidence or power in his shots that he once had, I hope he can go back to where he once was but I don't see it, regardless he had a great career and some defining moments for sure.

[@abhishekvanenooru2869]

watching kopriva play is different ( he is very unorthdox)

[@dimitr0v69]

There was a player named Dominic Thiem

[@nicho4087]

Where is Max Hans rehberg 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@throwinfitz1144]

He can't flatten the ball out with his wrist anymore, especially on the forehand. The depth isn't there as well. Injury was awful because he was on his way to world #1. If he never got injured, he would be top 5 right now, without question. Shame.

[@maximeburn3692]

Go Thiem!!!!!!

[@jkg7297]

Thiem should just retire. Dude's horrendous. And I don't really consider "he's playing for fun" argument here. He's clearly not enjoying it at all.

[@lochlanfinnegan0117]

Ik. He isn’t improving and losing to players he shouldn’t.

[@matthewhing4885]

Yes because I’m sure if you were the SECOND best in your country at something you’d just stop 🙄

[@jkg7297]

@@matthewhing4885 In his situation ? Sure. It's not like he's a young prospect with a whole career infront of him.

[@mylovelymr2tennisballs871]

You guys surely never competed in a sport before. Sometimes the high the get during tournaments are what they’re after. Imagine training from a young age up until winning ATP tournaments, you can’t just quit. What about the grind and the love of the sport? To simply say he should quit, that’s absurd and ridiculous.

[@CB-mr1ci]

He said it himself. If he can’t get back to his previous level, retirement is highly probable.

[@kepko6792]

Хочу матч Тим - Шварцман 😁👍

[@esshoul]

Well, only Idiot would keep playing with that heavy log instead of proper racquet after having problems with wrist tendons...

[@trancebeliever]

Thiem's biggest injury is mental. Shortly after winning the US Open, he had already gone offline and dropped his level in an apparent mental breakdown. To make matters worse, the wrist injury came. I believe his biggest problem is mental and loss of empathy for the game.

[@alexlackner1945]

To be fair, it's quite normal for players to drop their level after reaching their dream of winning a slam. Add Corona and an injury...

[@trancebeliever]

@@alexlackner1945 the big four and other multiple slams winners disagrees…Thiem has mental issues and really seem uninterested

[@marykistnen6837]

Maybe he thought he didn't 100% deserve the US Open 2020 title, because Djokovic was disqualified from that tournament.

[@aristoteles2797]

he should not use the slice so often ..he is permanently coming under pressure and finally loosing the point

[@muteswanlapq]

He doesn't slice that much. Go watch the full match

[@sriniarivalagan5180]

Thiem plays like he's 45 years old.

[@marcileiseth1500]

Sad to seen Theim lose to randoms..

[@patriciomora9663]

So sad to see Thiem implode

[@nicozuki]

Draper 6-1 5-7 6-4 Kopriva Moro Canas 6-4 6-4 Thiem

[@oioimatemate]

ティエム😢

[@paulpfennig2504]

What wrong with those comments 🥴

[@-Emily897-CHECK-MY-PROFILE]

*Your videos are always very informative and entertaining, many Thanks for that 😊*

[@tomk5238]

Thiem's forehand is really not what it used to be.

[@al2498]

That Moro-Canas guy considers himself now as a top Tennis player. Ridiculous.

[@alexlackner1945]

He came through quallies and won his first ATP tour level match against a struggling veteran. I think he knows how to put this in perspective .

[@JanAyudaPerros]

Lol commentator is horrible . Just taken the world number 105 😱

[@MarcoSpeaksNadsat]

Moro Canas is ranked 240, and his highest was 221. This is his first ever ATP maindraw match. Beating the world 105, whoever that is, is a massive win for him.....that's why she said it.

[@JanAyudaPerros]

@@MarcoSpeaksNadsat anyone can beat thorn at this point 😂

[@JanAyudaPerros]

Thiem

[@noonecares6530]

Thiem please Stop that!! GO TO CHALLENGER AND WON DOME TROPHY THEN GO TO ATP MAN**

[@deathbombs]

Thiem shots have no weight

[@mycomma]

sosad...now thiem seems can be lose to everyone......

[@Zaino88]

Spoiler blocker

[@roginder]

I just wish that woman commentator would stop talking !! Her stupid one liners really shows a lack of real understanding of the sport

[@alexlackner1945]

Yeah she's annoying

[@Birdylockso]

It's amazing that every comment here is about Thiem. It shows how dearly he's loved by the fans. Take it and move on, for all our sake, please.

[@ponce1741]

So sad to see thism cant win even against E level playrrs

[@Liamnerfdude1]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop

[@dumecorsica4434]

Thiem is so bad lol

[@user-kn6nb8pt5v]

Dude... Its his wrist injury, prevents him from generating any pace, it isn't that he's bad

[@redemption2945]

Thiem, for your healthy, retire. You don't play like before

[@drbookie2169]

Is theim physically handicapped or just poor mental?

[@themoreyouknqw3555]

I feel for Dominic Theim.. Not having any good results of late

[@shanmugasundaram6625]

Draper's fh just sits there to be punched.

[@user-gf5vx5ks7o]

What happened with Thiem game ?

[@teasellermodi5897]

Thiem is finished!!!!! He should be retire soon.